Rickson Gracie’s 450-0 record…
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Chael Sonnen talks Rickson Gracie on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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Must be really comfortable sitting on a slab of metal. Who thought this stupid czit up. Maybe you are the type that puts their wallet in their front pocket.
Why not 449
@@77MK- Who takes the trash out?
450-0 lol Rickson even said in his interview he was scared of Mark Schultz the legendary wrestler
IF YOU CANT GET KNOCKED OUT ITS NOT A FIGHT.
If anyone ever claims to be 450-0 in fighting you've either met a liar or you've met Chael Sonnen the GOAT
If you've met chael sonnen then you have also me a liar
@@brianhume1514 You are correct. You "me" are a liar...
Sure...and, if you've met chael sonnen, then you've also met ....another liar
Only one I believe other than Chael is Aleksandr Karelin with 887-2 (both by a single point) and he didnt have a point scored on him for 6 years before that 2nd loss.
Uncle Chael went 5-0 in one night!!! Recently!!! Unc is just being humble, I bet HIS record is more like 700-0
Lmfao you really can't argue that logic.
Some guy: "Hey bro you did not beat 450 people"
Rickson: "Ok square up then"
Guy: "I'm good"
Rickson: "exactly the records 451 now"
😂😂😂
😂😂
😂 😂 😂 💀
Now he's so old no one will challenge him, he still thinks he's the baddest man on the planet 😂
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@@blitheringrando1410 wtf you talking about? bas rutten challenged him in front of the world. he ran.
Bas Rutten "wow that's amazing not 399 not 401 but 400."
Come on Chael Bas did everything but a dojo storm to get Rickson in a Pride Fight but in 1998 or 99 Rickson was asking for a million dollars which was unheard of back then.
When Bas came out of retirement in 2006 they asked who he wanted to fight Bas said Rickson and was willing to forgo his pay to give Rickson his million and Rickson asked for ten million.
how do you know this?
Im with Jay Santos is this insider info
Or something u pulled out of your left butcheek
It’s in interview clips
@@tripledvideos6815 send it to me if you can't find i wouldent mind searching with you alot of the past of our hobby is very blurry with that he said she said bullshit we just want to know who the real pioneers are 🤣
I lost a staring contest against Rickson once. He added that victory to his record.
Once I was lost in a forest and I met Rickson. He asked me "You lost?". "Yes", i responded. He added that victory to his record.
@@janmolekula3900 🤣😂
Ron Tripp threw Rickson in a Sambo match within 47 secs. Rickson then added Ron Tripp's victory to his own record.
just like Pele lol
@@billywalendomalthough that old man talk too much nonsense, he still had legit status as footballer in his generation ( although other player like garrincha also need recognition
This is true. No one has ever walked up to Chael and said he has ever lost a fight. Hence, he's undefeated and undisputed.
Andrews son silver
Big Time
After posting this post I will still be undefeated, snd undisputed
What do you mean , Chael lost a lot of fights in the cage
@@nicolasperidakis3335 See that was a misunderstanding. He thought if he tapped he would only lose the round, not the fight.
A friend of mine attended a seminar in the 90's and he was impressed that Rickson rolled with and tapped out with ease everyone ...often starting from disadvantageous positions such as full mount, rear choke etc 50+ attendees, Judokas, wrestlers, tough guys, young athletes etc. Mythical level skills.
Dude hw was a fraud.
@@davidcook680no
Rickson's own father said this was BS. Rorian Gracie is one of the greatest marketing geniuses in martial arts history. Created a myth of a family, created a sport out of that, and turned all that into a giant, perpetual money making business for himself and his family, even though the sport he created passed his family by in terms of skill and ability 20 years ago.
When and how did it pass them by in 2002?
@Mark reyes lol
@Mark reyes lol true, the "gracie killer"
@Mark reyes And a few years later, Matt Hughes toyed with Royce like he was a white belt.
@@lewisruffalo2221 yeah they was good in a sport that they helped manufacture, early ufc wasn't exactly talented. No one knew what a submission was lol. But yeah in todays world, eddie bravo is probably the guy to beat. Royler cant beat him, i think its royler.
Alexander Karelin won gold medals at the 1988, 1992 and 1996 Olympic Games and a silver medal at the 2000 Olympic Games. His wrestling record is 887 wins and two losses, both by a single point and if i remember correctly last loss was due to change of rules. Almost all are documented on video))
Is that true? Where are the videos? Is there an archive? I'm even skeptical of that 887-2 record. Did Karelin keep a journal? He wrestled in Sweden, localy in Novi, and on low profile tours so who was keeping track of the amount of matches? I believe that he went undefeated over that 13 year period but there is more to it. Even a level college wrestler could go 1000-0 if he only faced low level competition. His top competition record was closer to 200-0 if you add up his worlds, olympics, euros, and national events which he himself said were the tournaments he trained to peak for. That's probably the more significant number whatever it is. The account I've seen of the 1987 loss is that nothing happened in the match and the ref raised Karelin's opponent arm because of seniority and being the team captain. It was a stalemate.
I have a friend who I served with in the Army that trained with the Gracie's in the 90's. He told me, that I wouldn't believe the number of fighters that would just show up at the Torrance gym and challenge Him. Open challenge Welcome any hour of any day, anytime they were open. No one beat Him !!
They couldnt beat someone who trained their entire life at that one thing and that was still pretty unknown about? No way
@@michaelhauser6440 It was always no holds barred matches, tool.
Rickson's gym was on Pico in West LA, not Torrance. He and his brothers in Torrance were not on speaking terms in the 90s. But yes, people did show up to the West LA gym for challenges.
He even putting the elderly ladies he teaches on his record, what a savage.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 loved it
Lmfaoooo
🤣😂 everyone he trained and took down are considered his victories.. lol
Don't forget the kindergartens 6 year old class. All 25 students.
I wish Rickson would tell the truth...which is probably impressive enough on its own. then again maybe he is telling the truth in Brazil they probably had fights every weekend
Chael is the master of talking about something for 10 minutes without actually saying anything at all
I hate it, he might aswell be talking about the weather
my boy was yapping on this one
I dont get why so many people like this guy. He was a pretty good heel but hes a shit storyteller
@@michaelhauser6440the way he yaps is what I like it’s very unique
@@michaelhauser6440the man could do a podcast with no guests and it’d be great
"It was 400 when I woke up this morning. It's now 450. That is official!"
Not gonna lie, that cracked me up 🤣
It's always been 450 I knew that number 25 years ago. But he didn't have today's competition.
This reminds me of back in the first few UFCs all the guys had crazy records like 375-2 and no one ever verified them 😂
Exactly where this comes from everyone in early ufc had like 500-0-1 records.
Nobody had records like.
@@SmokingDopeFrazier watch Don Frye's first UFC fight where he KO's his giant obese Puerto Rican opponent instantly, that guy gets introduced as having a record of like 700-5 or something lol
Wasn't Pat Smith 250-0 before Shamrock tapped him out quickly?
Like the guy Don Frye beat in 5 seconds. 😂
There's video evidence of Rickson losing. Rickson's definition of a fight is "Any altercation where I won". He then takes that number and multiplies it by 10
x10? that cant be true. you saying he beat 45 guys in gym challenges or something and the multiplied it by 10...
45? Dudes been teaching bjj in brazil for that many years allmost.
Any link to any of this "evidence"?
got a link? I got into martial arts because of Rickson. I have never seen video of him losing a fight. I would not have an issue watching it. There's literally no video of that in existence. You just told a lie.
show the video
@@alecargnin ah he's not coming back. He posted a lie and got called on it. The honorable thing to do would be to delete this thread.
Rickson dares say he is undefeated and undisputed?
There’s only one man in history that’s undefeated and undisputed, and he comes from West Linn, Oregon, not Brazil
Until he fights chael he can't claim that
Did he break Jon Jones' toe though? Yeah thought not. Undefeated, undisputed and never lost a round.
"Dear diary, I pushed my kindergarten classmate today, which means I'm already 17-0." (Rickson Gracie, 1971).
🤣🤣👍
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I totally get why anyone would not believe that, but only people that either trained with him or saw him training PERSONALLY can understand that the statement is true. I’ve witnessed with my own eyes Rickson beating more than 10 BJJ BLACK BELTS ( all ready to compete, in top shape to compete at the Pan American Tournament in LA, 1996) immediately after that he continue to train with all Brown belts, then purple belts, the whole thing lasted about 60 to 90 min. He wrestled with at least 20 people in a row, submitting every single one. All the athletes came from different gyms to visit Rickson and do their final training before competition. After the 10th match or so, all Rickson needed was a few yoga deep stomach breaths to continue, like between 30 to 60 sec rest only between every match, it was incredible to see some of the biggest name in BJJ at the time getting tapped out effortlessly by Rickson.
Imagine going into practice for the day or going to train a class of kids or white belts...and than leaving the gym being 8-0 for that day...😑💀
I believe there were days when people kept unofficial vale tudo records outside of sanctions. They competed in a true amateur sense in their gyms, but treated it like a real sport. This is why Helio called out Rickson, saying that by there rules, Helio had a million fights.
this is still true today. I trained mma years ago and there were what people call "gym fights". they don't count for anything other than pride. but they happened.
Even if Helio had a handful of fights it's still very impressive. The man had 9 children. It's amazing that he could find time and a free bathroom to take a dump in peace, let alone fight all these people.
@@MB-wp2px you think he spent time raising the kids? The women probably did that. These are old school guys.
@@MB-wp2px tell me you got kids without saying “Im a dad.”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💪🏽
He didn’t have a million fights that’s alot
He lost to Ron Tripp
I have never ever heard someone as skilled in talking but not saying anything as Sonnen. It’s amazing… it’s truly amazing.
Rickson Gracie claiming to be undefeated is an insult to the greats like good ol’ Uncle Chael. How dare he try to fake it into the ranks of true undefeated champions like Chael.
😂
Why can't Chael's fans be serious for once? Do you have to convince yourself that he's "undefeated" in every comment section of every video?
@@cadetcyuzuzo7729 He never lost a round. UNDEFEATED AND UNDISPUTED 🤣
@@cadetcyuzuzo7729 never lost a round bro
@@cadetcyuzuzo7729 Why you mad Cadet Kelly
This conversation is 20 years old, when Sakuraba wanted to challenge the entire Gracie Family and beat them all, except Rickson didn't want to put his 0 on the line and never fought since then...
Well if u know anything abt that time u would know he had just lost his first son
@@ThaSilentOne420 yes, due to drugs. What about it? He refused to fight. That death was in 2000. They could have fought before that while Rickson was younger, rather than him being in this 40s-50s.
@@ricya1982 "what about it".... just because it was to drugs doesnt undermine the fact he lost his son, and their family was in a time of greif
@@ricya1982 I think you're jealous
what a garbage take. This Gracie hate I see in goofy MMA fans makes no sense. You guys just make shit up. Dude was 42 when he was the main event at PRIDE 1. Has nothing to do with Sakuraba.
Chael Sonnen’s 1000000-0 record…
You can even say 7.9 Billon - 0 if you consider the fact that Uncle Chael can beat any human being on the planet.
@@carlizancho2 insightful, very insightful 👌🏻
What a power level. 🤔 My scouter broke.
if you look at ricksons record, he was active till the year 2000. most of his "biggest wins" came in the mid ninetees when he won the valt tudo japan tournaments, beating low level or completely unkown opponents. the problem with this is that at this time, you already had guys like frank and ken schamrock, semmy schilt, tank abbott, don frye, bas rutten, mark coleman, dan severn and a TON of others competing at the same time. and rickson refused to those guys. all he did was talk. that makes him the charlie zelenoff of mma!!
Not exactly but nice try.
I'm not gonna put him to zelenoff level, but his official record is not very impressive. He does have some Notable names including masakatsu funaki and Yuki nakai who have been blinded by gordeau. Most of his opponents are unknown names and some Japanese pro wrestlers like nobuhiko takada.
I witnessed charlie own Mayweather sr. Hes a bad dude. He needs to fight fury for the big bux. He deserves it. Relatively in unknows bad ass. Kim k. Was out to make him look bad because he broke up with her. That's all. Charlie is damn good.. im pretty sure
@@alfonsusariantopangau8883 wym been blinded, literally?
@@ight2060 yes, gordeau gouge his eyes so bad it blinded one of his eyes, you can search it in Google or UA-cam to know more.
When Mario Sperry competed at the Extreme Fighting, he was introduced with the record of 272-0.
In the same competition, Allan Goes with 172-0
I remember that!
Allan was a great fighter. He was my first instructor in 97.
Even his father said its bs lol
I mean if Rickson is gonna include all of those different things into his record, I feel like he also has to include the actual sanctioned match against Ron Tripp, which he lost.
wins = sumbissions or tap to exhaustion. win by points do not count ..
@@dominathor it was a sanctioned match that does not appear on his record. The Gracies' stopped being relevant in the late 90s
@@dominathor that cope
Lmao
What happened with ron tripp? Never heard of the story???
@@devriestown He's a guy who definitely beat Rickson in an official sanctioned match, and the Gracies conveniently don't talk about it.
How quickly he went from 415 to 450! Impressive!
Probably double that, but we don't want to sound ridiculous 😂
Last night was open mat.
Idk. Chael's record went up 5 wins in one night. It's possible.
In the interview the delusional old man says it was surely 1000......
@@adventuregames424 No one but Chael could do it!
You have GOT to love some of the closed-captions that come across the bottom of these UA-cam videos...
Was watching this with captions turned on, and at about the 1min:12sec mark (where Uncle Chael says "Rickson Gracie beat 450 men... that's it...!!"), the captions read as "Pigs and gravy, 450 men"...
I've seen hundreds of odd caption errors, but this ranks up there with the funniest I've read YET !!!😂
Talking Shoe is 450-0 against Wanderlei
Lol
Fighters with the most wins in MMA history:
Travis Fulton (257)
Dan Severn (101)
Jeremy Horn (91)
Travis Wiuff (77)
Luis Santos (65)
Tony Lopez (64)
Ikuhisa Minowa (64)
Yuki Kondo (61)
Jeff Monson (60)
Alexey Oleynik (60)
Interesting how nobody knows these guys
@@user-mw7ll9lb5v Dan Severn is a UFC legend back when the promotion was bare knuckle. Jeremy Horn is also a legend. I have heard of Fulton. I have not heard of the other fighters though. If Fulton had 257 official mma fights, then it's feasible that Rickson actually did win over 400 fights. He probably beat a lot of fighters who didn't know mma or Jiu jitsu.
@@81carlos sorry if it came across wrong i aint hatin... just sayin casuals and a bit more prolly dont.. im a big fan and these were all new to me. (Actually interesting) cheers
@@81carlos oleynk is still fighting and winning in ufc
@@user-mw7ll9lb5v if you don't know those guys you're a casual yourself
Congrats on 1 Mil Chael. For all I know, you have been there for some time now, but it'd the first time that I had noticed. Keep Killin' It Man. ✌️🤙
Came straight to the comments, y’all never disappoint! Undefeated and Undisputed
A record like this isn't completely unheard of. Remember Lomachenko was 396-1 as an amateur boxer, and he avenged his 1 loss twice. So I kinda believe Rickson.
And he’s lot twice in the pros now that he’s not beating the same can 20+ times lol
Pat b yeah but top pro boxing matches are different to amateurs. You are beating nobodies and low skilled fighters. Top ranked pro fights you are fighting against very highly skilled opponents.
@@supmikey123 yeah I’m aware he stayed in the amateurs till he was 30 for a reason his record is extremely inflated
That’s also an unverified record. Verified I think he’s like 89-1 as an amateur
@@LouieOcean2 Rickson was 40 by the time there was a real competitive infrastructure. That said, he's also claiming random people he rolled with after class to his record.
Bryan Callen who invented 10th Planet is the only person more impressive than Rickson Gracie
Bryan Callen submits multiple black belts a week in official competition
Of course. He is the Mandragon himself.
For sure
RIP BRIAN CALLEN
@@AT-qu2bz Heard he died street racing schaub on the 405 tonight. F
Tito tapped
I guess he was the only Gracie that ducked Kazuhiro Sakuraba, which makes him the smartest Gracie! Because that dude was a Gracie hunter!
He didn’t ducked sakuraba. Get his autobiography and you’ll find out.
Didn’t his son die when the fight was scheduled?
@@UnitedWeStoned his AUTObiography?? Lol do you know what an AUTObiography is, clown?
Rickson would have choked out kazushi.
@@drumsofdoom Who knows , doubt it though!
Well, he definitely did lose to Ron Tripp. Can't deny that.
I think rigan machado beat Ron trip by armbar. Ron trip did beat rickson in sambo rules
Ron tripp straight bad ass
@@masterguerrero2805 Everyone loses to someone.
In my book He's not undefeated because he's chickened out on fighting sakaraba the Gracie killer.
His Son passed away. He lost his drive after that. It would have been amazing to watch though.
@@henryuribe4322 yeah what if there's a bunch of fights and I would like to sing happen
@@ryanbarker4422 I'm not sure about documented 450. There is a good chance it's true but the documented fights can't be ignored. Put Chuck Norris out who was world Karate Champion, Mark Schultz Olympic Gold Medalist Wrestler, Royce Gracie who beat the Shamrocks and Severns of that Era and Rickson would ragdoll Royce. Zulu who was the top guy in Brazil at the time and Machado who was a top Jiu-jitsu guy as well. All the guys in the first Pride events. He has all my respect.
I tried Magic spoon.. it got soggy in milk and tasted stale.
I tried Ridge wallet .. my cards fall out and the wallet slides out of my pocket and gets lost in the car. But Tonight I was forced to eat a white onion instead of a red one on a Hamburger and I can no longer take Uncle Chael at his word.
Stephen Seagal grew those onions. Enjoy them buddy. He also created the magic spoon too.
I call BS on that 450-0
450-0 I assumed this included gym hard sparring sessions. He rolled with like 30 strangers at a random gym in the 90s on video so if this is part of the number he is using its probably accurate. He fought in pre-mma where mma bouts wasn't really a combat sport yet (besides styles vs styles or gyms vs gyms).
beat up his misses daily for year and a half
That's what his father said. He counts every sparring and training roll
@@sliderx1897 I would too I ain’t gonna lie.
He admits it was every match. Guys would show up to challenge him. Fights on the beach. Amateur fights. People are looking at it wrong. It's not the 450 number It's the zero. It's that in every challenge he was never defeated. Not in practice, not in competition, not in sparring.
But he actually did lose in a Sambo competition. He claims he wasn't aware of the rules so it shouldn't count. I think it should.
Rickson was the greatest grappler who was criticized by his own family for being too brutal with his pound and ground style.
Is not fair to criticize who he didn't fight. If you think Because Sakuraba... eventually defeated Royce he would have done the sand to Rickson ... you don't know how much better Rickson was than Royce.
The Gracie's have a history of getting caught lying.
Love the energy here. Chael your the man, for a minute there I thought you were fighting Spider Silva again!
Rickson Gracie was amazing incredible, and light years ahead of his time,I saw him destroy numerous people who were future UFC fighters,all in the same sparring session!
Clown
I don't doubt it. Rickson is on another level.
Frank Dux can punch a hole through time and reset his record.
My understanding is that Ricksons own father called bs on that number and said it was actually the 11 that are recorded and that Rickson counts every sparring session , brotherly fight etc and that if he did that he would have a million fights to his name! I am only repeating what I have read elsewhere more than once so cannot say this is 100% true.
You're looking at the reflection of perfection. You're looking at the man who gets all your attention. You're looking at the man with the biggest arm. At the man, with the greatest charm, the man in Chicago who will do harm to the guy three doors down. Whatcha gonna do, when you know who? How ya gonna deal, with the man of steel? How ya gonna react to Sonnen's attack?
Congratulations for being the only bad guy ever to hit 1 million subscribers!
Chael Sonnen could read the freaking phone book and make it entertaining.
i believe it bc back then in his days he was most definitely THE BEST and it took people a while to catch up
Yep. That’s right. The majority of his wins were pre-US. Most of the people here commenting don’t even compete. Have no idea what they are saying.
You shouldn't believe it, because we have one of his losses on record. He lost to Ron Tripp in 1993. He's a known liar. I talked to his brother, Relson, in 2001 and he joked about Rickson's fake record.
I lol'd at the title lolll
Love this guy.. I've learnt so much from him.. I'm now the number one used car salesman in my state. Thanks bro!
450? That's cute. I fought 1,500 and never lost. I never went passed round 1 and have records of fastest knockout and fastest submission. I was taught by my sensei Frank Dux.
Ay por dios 🤣
Chael is undefeated and that is all that should matter.
When he said who has walked up and something to the effect of no you didnt i got goose bumps and then started laughing
Chael, use an assumptive close during your warranty pitch for the Ridge wallet. "When you decide to keep it, do nothing. If it's not for you, return it within...blah blah"
Do you know what Rickson Gracie is doing right now? _Whatever Rickson Gracie wants to do_
that includes ducking sakuraba and bas rutten
He is only 450-0 because he was too scared to fight Lord Chael.
Chael makes a good point, about every match at practice counting, if you follow Rickson's line of reasoning, but I think there's a clear line to draw. People would go to his seminars just to roll with him at the end. He would roll with them all, and he didn't stop until each one said they were done. Not just after he tapped them, which he most definitely did, but after they gave up. They weren't rolling like teammates do at practice, they were hoping to tap him just once, or get him to say he was tired, and wanted a rest. He knew that, if one of them tapped him after being tapped 10 x, they would run and tell the world that they tapped RIckson Gracie. He knew that, if they asked if he wanted to keep going, and he said that he wanted to give the other guys a chance, they would run and tell the world that he quit, because he was either tired, or knew they were eventually going to tap him. Those are non-friendly competitions. It's fair to count them. Also, some people came to his dojo to challenge him. Some are recorded, some are not. He would offer to promote it, and fight publicly, so they could all make some money, but some wanted a private shot at the crown, so they didn't risk losing publicly.
Part of why the jujitsu world that is full of guys with big egos hasn't produced one person to call BS could be that they all went to a Rickson seminar once, and threw everything they had at him to no avail. Maybe it doesn't matter them if it's 50, 150, or 450; they each guy individually knows that it was 100% of the guys he knows who are absolute bruisers with many titles to their name who personally told him that Rickson did the same thing to them.
I was introduced to mma by the now defunct promotion “extreme fighting” . I remember mario sperry was said to have a record of 273-0. Basically all those fighters had exaggerated records.
in brazil we have several jiu-jitsu competitions throughout the year, in bigger events you fight about 10 or more fighters before getting a medal. It's not hard to imagine the number he spoke if he's someone quite active! I don't know what competitions are like in other countries, but here you have to fight several fighters before reaching a final.
Nailed this perfectly, anyone else is clearly bs. Rickson was the most dominant person in combat for the entirety of his life of fighting. Further ahead in technique and bigger inner dog than anyone in the cage, in the gym and on the streets. There are videos of him settling disputes in backrooms 1 on 1, not a sanctioned match and not a practice, a mutual combat till tap or nap. Rougher times then
Yup. And it goes beyond just Rickson saying it. People go back and forth about the number, but I don't remember anyone ever coming out saying they kicked his ass and it was all BS. Probably because you'd then have to fight Rickson then spend some time in the hospital before a few months of physical therapy.
We may as well call it an even 500.
Thanks Mr. Sonnen. Your vids are engrossing because educational, entertaining, and fricking HILARIOUS! Your MMA takes are "spit take" warning worthy. ⚠️.
I never liked it when ju jitsu people called matches fights lol
Somebody’s 0 has got to go
That includes the fights with his wife, kids, school teachers, AT&T, PG&E, and the IRS.
Big John thought Yann won lol
Chael do you think the version of you that fought Anderson Silva would beat Wanderlei Silva at his best?
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It wouldn't of been close. Chael would of dominated him even more than he did in bellator
It's fairly obvious how he classifies what counts. If he wins it counts. Seems legit to me. I have a similar system and have yet to fail in life.
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And he doesn’t count one of the few actually recorded matches he lost in under a minute. lol
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The closest record to that claim is Loma's amateur boxing record at 396-1 which is definitely an amazing feat. but if he's talking jiu jitsu maybe it could be true but it's something that really needs some proof.
Thai Boxers have 300-400 fights in their career
@@msifu81h43 yea but I don't know a single one of them that went 400-0 they all had 20+ losses or close to it never 300-0 or 300/400-1
Chael brought up Mark Schultz, from what I understand back in mid 90's Rickson and Mark had a submission match in the gym Rickson caught Mark in an Armbar and Schultz was pissed off about that. I wish that match was filmed because I heard it lasted over 10 minutes or something not sure exactly how long.
"Rickson's only official loss in martial arts competition came at the 1993 U.S. Sambo Championships in Norman, Oklahoma. Rickson, claimed to be a former gold medalist at 1980 Pan American Sambo Championships at 74 kilograms,[40] faced judo and sambo champion Ron Tripp. Tripp threw Gracie to the canvas by uchi mata in 47 seconds, thus giving Tripp absolute victory under FIAS International Sambo rules. Rickson disputed this loss, claiming he was misinformed of the rules of the event, despite claiming to be a two-time Pan American Sambo champion."
Let's not forget
Charlie Z is 289 -0
The real GOAT
@@chiliman4711 fkn right
Think of some of the ancient warriors that must of had to of existed that went into battle or something and came out on top through out their life's and we will never know what they did, how many people they defeated, how many battles they faced, etc. It gets pretty crazy thinking about stuff like that during the era's of hand to hand combat wars..
Exactly back in the day a normal day was 3 pillages and 450 kills.
@@natel7382 more like a long ass hike lasting months, a fight for 30 minutes and then dying to foot fungus 💀
He must’ve counted him tapping out kids at his jiu jitsu gym 😂😂😂
Hahaha I dig @Chael Sonnen ‘s reasoning! Your not wrong🤣🙏❤️
Salute to the entire Gracie family ! Thank you so much. Royce was always my favorite. I believe it’s more closer to 450 grappling matches not fights.
Royce was a dirty fighter. Always late choking after a tap and that last fight against shamrock where he struck him below the belt.
Boring
@@Kromsmitesyou no gi no win Royce
This actually gives some context but let’s remember that a fight with Rickson would quickly become a grappling match against a white belt level opponent.
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Yes
It's just me and you brother and you're damn right I'll wear that shirt!
I emailed Chael about starting a line of them, but he hasn’t responded yet..
I feel like the difference in level and skill was way bigger back then, not many guy's had an answer to his jiu jitsu and most people who did train a martial art only trained one dicipline. Now a days almost every fighter at least knows how to stop a takedown or how to cancel your advances on the ground.
I think today there are way more amateur fighters who actually know how to fight and many many more proffesional fighters that are legit. I believe Rickson, but many of these fights were probably challenges and or gym fights.
I trained with Pedro Sauer, a Hickson Gracie student. He's told us a bunch of stories about fights against US Marines as 16 year old kid. He could've easily gone through 20 marines in a day. Imagine how many in a few years.
Lmao
I heard Chaels combined record is 451-0. Just saying ..
They left their dojo open to challenge by any style for years. Also Vale Tudo is (no holds barred not MMA) NHB. I would easily assume these guys were challenged about 365 days a year so yeah it is probably at least double this number. Lol, I love Rickson G bc a fight is a fight🤷✊🏆
Why wouldn't he fight Bas or Sakuraba huh.
Well Hickson never ran into The Bad Guy or else we know he would be 450-1 Undefeated and undisputed
You’d think that at least one single person over all the years on the mat would come forward and make the claim he submitted Rickson. But they haven’t
Hes almost as good as Charlie zelenoff the GOAT! 380-0 😉
I read his book Breath and I must say that it’s the best book I’ve ever read. Soo well written and full of passion. The Ending tho! The ending was straight out of a Japanese Anime ending
I can add some perspective to this. The record was not a claim that was made by Rickson, it was a list of all his matches, formal or informal, as a black belt, made by I think, a fanboy, who posted the list online. I was lucky enough to train with Rickson a couple times in the mid-90s and he never referred to this. But there is something to the word "fight" (which I have always hated) and its interpretation. Keep in mind this sort of hyperbole was often created and used by NHB fight promoters to hype up fighters. This is why Mario Sperry was promoted in his debut MMA fight as having a 150-0 record. I still have that old Rickson list stored somewhere on my old computer.
I love Chael to death, "if you can't whoop him, it's true" lmao
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Well In case I’m 150-0 who’s gonna tell me I’m not..
Me I'm about to make you 150 and 1 kid
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@@scuffsy298 no one will ever know 🤝😈😈
Do you know how much evidence Chael has when professing that no one ever challenged Rickson’s claim? ZERO.
“That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.” Rickson and Chael: You both are DISMISSED!
He never said that. His 400-0 mark includes "best of" type of matches against other black belts in non-sanctioned competition. He would never be 400-0 in MMA or no-holds-barred because that is completely impossible(no matter how skilled you are, you are bound to make a mistake somewhere). But it's possible that he's 400-0 in friendly competitive matches against other black belts. All black belts that ever roled with rickson say that he made feel like they've never roled before. He is quite phenomenally good at BJJ.