@@nicobaby350no no he got a point, we are in youtube enjoying videos, is it too complicated to add a small 5 sec facet and innate at the beginning of the video?
a switch from strong to weak dispel isn't simply a nerf, it is changing the concept they imagine for the hero .. so it's fine from that perspective but perhaps should have come along w/ a buff(s)? IDK i don't play the hero .. it is cool that march is back though
@@yaywoot123 yeah the strong dispel was super strong, but changing the laser AOE to lvl 25 fucked the hero, with aghs and the AOE on lvl 15 tinker could one shot waves with laser only so it was super fast to farm and you didnt even needed march anymore, but tinker late game was shit nonetheless. Now they want tinker to be an early game nuker with the laser damage lvl 15 but if you dont farm fast enough it will still be shit. As a tinker enjoyer i say let them cook, they are experimenting the hero it seems, will probably have a rework like techies eventually
@@joao9576 that is what i assumed re the talent swaps killing the CS/scaling .. seemed overkill and should have been nothing there or even a buff .. agree, is a cool hero - should have let them cook
thats no experimenting. Arcane blink cd increase, khanda cost increase, laser aoe to 25 and no strong dispell makes the hero beyond dead. You already had a counter to the matrix because it was dispellable. Either eul for early to mid game and nulifier for late. After the patch the winrate hasnt dropped either because no one plays him anymore. Since patch dropped it was played 3 times in high mmr games which is sad
@@shittywizard9805 I’m not saying it’s bad, I still don’t think he is good enough to get the nerf he did, tinker rn is so strong but it takes forever to come online. So many items and levels are needed, but when he gets there he does a lot of dps.
@@99Coupe strong dispel on his facet made him hard af to kill (it also has the status resist). AOE laser level 15 + aghs is crazy. arcane blink with his innate had a 2.5 second cd. they brought back march so he can farm fast like before. idk man he seemed pretty strong. funnily enough i think what he really lacks is damage since they removed rockets (especially now with aoe laser being level 25) he was just really hard to kill. his shard actually seems decent as well. people thought they killed the hero but he was even stronger than previous patches. hero was dead when they made blink mute on damage prior to the facet patch
@@shittywizard9805 yes very true, I totally agree but now the hero is actually just terrible with the nerf on shield, arcane blink and moving the AOE talent to 25 just makes him farm so much slower this patch. If all they did was change the shield to a weak dispel and make arcane blink cd 1 second longer the hero is fine. But moving that talent really hurts his farming speed from lvl 15+ this patch
whoever thought that getting back march of the machines to tinker at valve i wanna personally talk to you. just complete remake the hero instead of being a spammy hero with low cd shit. you cannot balance a hero around items becuse then items gotta be held back and be worse for other heroes. Just godamn remake him already lol :D wp fucking hate playing against mass march sieges. atleast the hard dispell being basic made it so u can actually nullifier that mfer now.
When patch 7.36 came and Tinker was hard nerfed(my favorite hero) i didnt play dota for 5 days, i just coudn’t take it… Now its forgotten hero for me. No rockets, no item refreshing… He even got nerfed before 7.36, with smaller laser radius and smaller rocket radius, but now, just to much nerfed…
This is good and all but even topson can't make tinker look good for me man we know it's good but i miss the rocket for 2nd i hope they bring it back and put the machine to shard skill
He can now be a solid support with the healbot facet. Max march of machines + Holylocket gives 39 HEALs per second which can be refreshed btw. Along with giving shield. I love it
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Showing the facet and the inate at the start of the video would be sick.
Just open dota and check,lazy
@@nicobaby350no no he got a point, we are in youtube enjoying videos, is it too complicated to add a small 5 sec facet and innate at the beginning of the video?
Usually shows facets in the thumbnail, same here
@@goromeme-rb7sb facet is in the thumbnail, chances are if you play the game you already know the facets/innate. if you dont, do you really care?
Playing 1-2 games a day, still dont know/forgot every hero facet. Would be a great addition.
That poor Alchemist always stun himself😂😂😂
took topson 3 tinker matches to valve move him to the dumpster again
a switch from strong to weak dispel isn't simply a nerf, it is changing the concept they imagine for the hero .. so it's fine from that perspective but perhaps should have come along w/ a buff(s)? IDK i don't play the hero .. it is cool that march is back though
@@yaywoot123 yeah the strong dispel was super strong, but changing the laser AOE to lvl 25 fucked the hero, with aghs and the AOE on lvl 15 tinker could one shot waves with laser only so it was super fast to farm and you didnt even needed march anymore, but tinker late game was shit nonetheless.
Now they want tinker to be an early game nuker with the laser damage lvl 15 but if you dont farm fast enough it will still be shit.
As a tinker enjoyer i say let them cook, they are experimenting the hero it seems, will probably have a rework like techies eventually
@@joao9576 that is what i assumed re the talent swaps killing the CS/scaling .. seemed overkill and should have been nothing there or even a buff .. agree, is a cool hero - should have let them cook
thats no experimenting. Arcane blink cd increase, khanda cost increase, laser aoe to 25 and no strong dispell makes the hero beyond dead. You already had a counter to the matrix because it was dispellable. Either eul for early to mid game and nulifier for late. After the patch the winrate hasnt dropped either because no one plays him anymore. Since patch dropped it was played 3 times in high mmr games which is sad
When they decide to nerf the hero with the scary 45% win rate pre 7.36c 😂
45% but OP in pro cause that hero is good people just dont know how to adapt
@@shittywizard9805 I’m not saying it’s bad, I still don’t think he is good enough to get the nerf he did, tinker rn is so strong but it takes forever to come online. So many items and levels are needed, but when he gets there he does a lot of dps.
@@99Coupe strong dispel on his facet made him hard af to kill (it also has the status resist). AOE laser level 15 + aghs is crazy. arcane blink with his innate had a 2.5 second cd. they brought back march so he can farm fast like before. idk man he seemed pretty strong. funnily enough i think what he really lacks is damage since they removed rockets (especially now with aoe laser being level 25) he was just really hard to kill. his shard actually seems decent as well. people thought they killed the hero but he was even stronger than previous patches. hero was dead when they made blink mute on damage prior to the facet patch
@@shittywizard9805 yes very true, I totally agree but now the hero is actually just terrible with the nerf on shield, arcane blink and moving the AOE talent to 25 just makes him farm so much slower this patch. If all they did was change the shield to a weak dispel and make arcane blink cd 1 second longer the hero is fine. But moving that talent really hurts his farming speed from lvl 15+ this patch
bkb with 40sec cooldown its surprisingly interesting!
Valve upon seeing YoweTinker: nerf Tinker next patch.
"But sir, people do not play Tinker anymore"
NERF IT!!!
hah cause yowe? hell no
whoever thought that getting back march of the machines to tinker at valve i wanna personally talk to you. just complete remake the hero instead of being a spammy hero with low cd shit.
you cannot balance a hero around items becuse then items gotta be held back and be worse for other heroes.
Just godamn remake him already lol :D wp fucking hate playing against mass march sieges. atleast the hard dispell being basic made it so u can actually nullifier that mfer now.
Even with topston playing, this new tinker looks like shit.
4:39 topson trying to blink XD
When patch 7.36 came and Tinker was hard nerfed(my favorite hero) i didnt play dota for 5 days, i just coudn’t take it… Now its forgotten hero for me. No rockets, no item refreshing… He even got nerfed before 7.36, with smaller laser radius and smaller rocket radius, but now, just to much nerfed…
Love it when doto vids not more than 10minutes
Pathetic Clockwerk.... Lvl 11 and calls gg early and abandons defense.... toxic
Yo! ll be nice u if mark all players ranks at the start of the game, what u think?
8:25 even clock didnt know what happen
Topson dives and expects his team to bail him out but the team reacts like boomers and blames him for feeding.
This is good and all but even topson can't make tinker look good for me man we know it's good but i miss the rocket for 2nd
i hope they bring it back and put the machine to shard skill
que triste es ver que lo arriesgan todo por que ya casi lo matan... pero todo estaba planeado por el y se lleva la kill.
Btw u r not so cute like on ur opening
at least puck got a decent hero competing on midlane since meepo and thinker dissapear but now they comeback.
as a tinker main, this new patch hurts me. valve nerf it to the ground
GABEN NERF THINKER, BUT TOPSON PLAYED THINKER LIKE A TRUE WARRIOR 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
How to deal with march in laning phase?
Should you tank it and keep farming or you wait till the march end?
new patch enjoyer
just for the record this is the old tinker, before 7.36c
The best mid player in dota history love you man
Velve change tinker from core to support 😂😂😂
7.36c tinker Is dead for real now
Old Tinker, New Tinker, Broken Tinker, Topson Tinker.
We all hate Tinker 💪
I went from divine 2 to immortal with the current tinker
Very cool thumbnail bro!
he just got nerfed HARD .........
He can now be a solid support with the healbot facet. Max march of machines + Holylocket gives 39 HEALs per second which can be refreshed btw. Along with giving shield.
I love it
@@kenvilla7248 i dont believe any tinker main wants to see his hero turning into a support........
@@yejifanboy1981 sure, but generally speaking for this specific role, its actually good.
@@yejifanboy1981 this gives him a 10 minute power spike for map control. With bots pushing lane too.
Thumbnail xD
Literally the best thing Valve did was killing Tinker on this patch. Is probably the most opressive midlaner there was for the longest time
he is opressive only if u dont shut him down early bc he is snowballer
shalom
its 7.36c?
no
its still 7.36b cause lv 15 talent still aoe laser
I hate tinker, but this is worse than cm treatment. at least make the blink has lower cooldown as inate ability
We got Topson Tinker before GTA VI.