I don't mean to be a douchebag but it's not irony. It's coincidence. Irony would be if he was meant to be a force to stop assassination and then got assassinated because of that trait. And don't blame me for pointing this out blame George Carlin's stand up routine that clarified the meaning of irony and that people seem to name something as ironic when it is coincidence. Anyway, I'm off to fuck my hand and smoke some crack... I love the internet... and crack
Disbanding peasants in enemy territory is actually an awesome tactic, since it also adds to the culture. So if you were to disbanding an entire stack of peasants in an enemy city, instant rebellion.
Think you mean it adds to the population. Culture doesn't change. In fact it helps assimilate cities, since you can build palace upgrades sooner (palace culture has a HUGE impact on Culture Penalty...) Awesome way to build up your core cities early on, though, to get some decent units early. Or frontier towns later in the game, to get highways built ASAP...
So *this* is how this game is played. When I was around 10 years old and played this I always got my arse beat since I just charged into towns head on.
Jonathan Gréen Yes, I did the similar sort of thing when I was 9 years old! Omg, the cringy and painful flashbacks from when I thought I was cool while playing this game XD
3:54 the quote is “One more victory like that and we’re finished”. It was said by King Pyrrhus of Epirus after he lost the majority of his army winning the fairly inconsequential battle of Heraclea.
"It's such a small thing to correct, don't make such a big deal out of it" - The grammar Nazi who literally made a big deal of the lack of a comma in a UA-cam comment.
Damn, watching the first vid was difficult. Now having to watch the second one within 2 days is just too much. I caved in, started playing Rome TW again.... Damn you Jon, damn you. Exams start the 9th of January, should be studying my ass off, not wasting my time on this renewed, hot, passionate relationship with a forgotten love
You quoted King Pyrrhus of Epirus, at 4:00 He made a speech after his 'victories' which were later called as 'Pyrrhic victories ' for the heavy casualties and almost non beneficial victory.
Ohhh, that's where that comes from. I always thought it had something to do with the root "pyro," as in "fire." Like, a victory that burns you as well.
@@shqiperia60 Technically he was an Epirot, which was more like a mix between Greek and Illyrian. But Epirus is still more or less in modern-day Albania/Northwest-Greece, so close enough. Edit: In fact, Apollonia, the town Jon first took over, was the ancient capital of Epirus, and as you can see, it is basically in Albania. That also explains why he was fighting Rome, Tarento is basically a quick skip over the pond.
26:00 no, actually there are HUGE differences between Law and Happiness. Law reduces Corruption: directly increasing your tax income by a percentage in a settlement (or rather, not losing a % you normally would). This becomes massively powerful in very large/rich cities. Happiness just reduces garrison requirements (which Law does as well)
Bacchus (being the god of wine and parties) also seems to increase the chances of governors in that city getting drinking traits, which are usually bad. So in other words, Jupiter is just way better than Bacchus.
Sooooooooo you convinced me to get this game, i started up a major battle (the one with Sparta) and put it on easy (because I'm a noob at these strategy take-over-the-world games) and as you can probably guess... That ended terribly. I got chewed up into pieces. So at this point i realise i should probably do the tutorial. I do this and i learnt the game decently well but as i'm fighting a war on two fronts against not only Greece but the Gauls too (as the Julii), i get my second best family member- after Gaius (the faction and family leader), Secundus Julius murdered by a crappy Gaul rush in their weakest town. This game is stress :D So from there i panic, sent Gaius from the new city i just sacked from the Greeks with approx. 500 men- 100 of which are heavy cavalry, and destroyed the ever living crap out of every single Gaul family member i could find, revenge is sweet.
The historical battles are naturally stacked against you. I think you'd be better off toying around in custom battles or trying out the Julii Campaign.
For what Micheal Pulka said, most historical battles you're playing as the losing side and are basically told to win a battle that was historically lost. Best example is the historical battle where you're Brutii vs Parthia, which is basically an excercise in masochism last time i checked. The other really hard battle is Teutoborg forest, which is the battle that curbed all of rome's ambitions of expanding into Germania and is by far one of the biggest losses in rome's history. The easiest historical battle is probably river trebia. There you're playing as the victor of the battle, one of the greatest generals in history, Hannibal Barca, and while the romans have a larger army, you have the strategic advantage. Just use your cavalry/ elephants wisely and you got this =P Just remember- in rome total war flanking is key, surround and rout units using infantry as the anvil and cavalry as the hammer, that's your bread and butter maneuver in the game, Other thing to remember is that phalanx, especially high tier phalanx like spartans slaughter anything in front of htem, but their flanks are really weak, isolate units and encircle/pelt with missiles.
27:00 about the temples. I've started a Scipii game myself! Medium/medium because I'm a softy like that. I quickly took over syracuse, made it my capitol, and started grooming Messana to be my Super Unit production city. Sent over "settler" peasants, put my best educated generals there, built up the infrastructure etc. As of 147 turns into the game, that city is pumping out standard legionary cohorts every turn for my war in Egypt. They all come standard with 13 attack 21 defense (gold/gold, 2 chevrons). I love the scipii!
Oh, Scipii are fine, but I hold the Brutii are objectively better - because Pantheon of Mars + Foundry would be pushing out those legions just as fast, but they'd be 15 attack 23 defence with silver/silver on the upgrades, but 3 XP which more than compensates...
Oh dear! Um, so I sort of got my statistics wrong. I was going off of a website's statics for the roman armies rather than actually checking in game. I made a terrible mistake. Okay, so between the foundry and the Pantheon of Vulcan, the standard legionary cohort actually comes up to 14 attack, 27 defense (chevrons and upgrades included). Also, I've been meaning to ask, if you know the answer: do you know what hit points do? All units have 1 hit point, except for general's bodyguards, which come with 2. If you answered it in the video, I apologize. >.>
Did you know that the romans can "take over" certain gods from other nations? i distinctly remember that in my julii campaign, i conquered a gaul city, and they had a shrine which gave experience to cavalry. And i could actually turn that god "roman" and upgrade it to level 5. PS: always build siege equipment, even if you dont need it. youmight get a useful trait that way. also, hilariously, if you skip a generals speeches all the time, he might get the "boring speaker" negative trait
None of that is true. Boring Speaker isn't affected by skipping speeches. Its main triggers include rioting in a city you control (can also lead to "Rabble Rouser" or "Inspiring Speaker": basically riots force your governor to give speeches to try and calm the riots down...) And, you can't assimilate temples. You CAN *upgrade* temples of another nation ONLY if their God is of the same "type" as yours. For instance Saturn is a "God of Law" in the code, whereas Jupiter is a "God of Justice". If you take over a temple of justice as the Julii or a temple of law as the Scipii, you can upgrade it into a Temple of Jupiter (as the Julii) or Saturn (as the Scipii) of higher tier. However it's hard to know what temples you can do this with without looking at the code... FWIW, temples of the same type give identical benefits. This is a clue as to which gods are identical. For instance, Nike and Mars aren't the same: gods of Victory and War, respectively. But there is an Egyptian god of Law, if I remember correctly (forget which one it is...) and I think Isis (the Egyptian goddess) was the equivalent of Juno...
What is nice about this let's play is that you can enjoy a really good game while receiving a crash course about the classical era. Jon, you are the best!
I've logged almost 400 hours across several total war games in the last 6 weeks or so. I've enjoyed it thoroughly and it began with this Rome series. Thanks Jon
ThatN00dle98 When you play as west rome though, it is very tough, starting with a large empire that isn't organized how you want, with enemies on multiple fronts, while also dealing with rebels and a bleeding economy.
One tip I don't remember you mentioning. A tired unit can recover all the way to fresh if they are left standing or walking slowly for a couple minutes. Discovered that in a skin of my teeth battle. I took so long organizing the last attack, they had started recovering.
Correction on the temples for anyone curious: The Brutii DO get a temple with 10% bonus to happiness each level, it's just disguised as the temple of health (Juno). Basically it's 5% from the temple itself, and another 5% from the health bonus. BUT! When you have a settlement with a growth rate that's over 5% per turn, then any added growth (in increments of .5%) adds another 5% to your happiness. So if I have a settlement with a growth rate of 5% and i build a temple to Juno, thus pushing the growth rate to 5.5%, then I effectively have a temple that can provide a 15%!!! happiness boost per level of temple, which is insane. Also of note, the Scipii with the temple of Vulcan can actually train the best troops. Having better weapons and armor is far superior to having more experience. A one level increase to both weapons and armor is about the same as 3 levels of experience (despite what the stat card says), as I've found in custom battles.
Also Jupiter is way better than Bacchus for the Julii. Law improves public order and reduces garrison requirements but also reduces the money siphoned off by the corruption effect, making it a great choice for large cities. General happiness only improves public order and reduce garrison requirements, so it's weaker.
Really enjoy matn commentary it seems unique to all other gamers i have found. Now he's the only channel that plays game that I can sit down and enjoy a full series off without getting bored of it.
Jon I cant even explain how flipping AWESOME this series is so far! Ive spent countless lifetimes playing the total war games, and your style of explaining your every move in detail is just perfect for this game. After a long day of work this is better than a cold beer :)
This series is fascinating. I originally subscribed during YOLO New Vegas because I was interested in an 'expert' level playthrough of the game, and I loved it. Now hearing Jon describe all the mechanics in detail is absolutely enthralling and I can't wait for next tuesday.
I thought it looked like a steak! And always scratched my head about why the hell the RtW designers chose a flippin' steak to represent squalor. Rats. Right.
I hope this will be a full playthrough,I love Rome: Total War :3 And the fact that you actually know a lot about the era makes it just that much better.
It's worth noting that there is a difference between Bacchus and Jupiter. The bonus to law that Jupiter yields also reduces corruption which can increase your settlement's profitability later down the line. I've also heard, though haven't confirmed, that Bacchus can make it more likely for any family members in that settlement to pick up drinking related traits.
wait wait wait, three hundred thousand subscribers, hour long video, one ad... this guy is a lot better than some 500k sub people I know... look at the lack of ads... I give up, this guy has a new subscriber.
the Bruttii do have one weakness though, they lack buildings that provide law, law reduces corruption in settlements, which means each new city will be slightly worth less than the ones before it.
Classics Jon may be best Jon yet. EDIT: Keep never stopping. The best gameplay is from a commentator who is so good at the game, replays are required to understand what's going on. I'm starting to fall in love with this series.
The Brutii temple of Mars can cause generals to get some bad traits as can the drinking one for the Julii also the Scipii temples don't and the pantheon level forging one gives +2 exp rank for troops better equipment which you can't earn in battle like exp and 10% law which reduces your income loss from corruption and its so easy to just go east and take what the Brutii should and cripple them for the entire game and its not to hard to do it to the Julii as well. I enjoy the Scipii too.
Brilliant videos. This is one of my favourite childhood games. One feature from medieval total war that didn't make it into Rome that i really miss is the ability to turn on your ally at any point in the battle. I loved it.
I like how organic this game is, things that are clearly not in manual or anywhere, like if u disband unit, people obviously go somewhere, harvest is different every year, dont train in queue and more...some games are just nicely thought trough
Your videos have become one of my main videos to download to kill time on the numerous flights I have to be on each month. Thanks for your hard work and keep it up!
THANK YOU JON! After your last rome video I ( as a Diehard AOE veteran ) was at first skeptical but went out and got total war rome and instantly fell in love with it ! Im currently addicted to it as of being 48 hours into owning it ! Although im not the best ive been looking foreward to your videos on the game so i can get better. Keep it up!
I couldn't tell if you were being cheeky or not, but your quote is spectacularly appropriate in this context, since it comes from Pyrrhus of Epirus, after winning a battle against Rome, as quoted by Plutarch: "If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined" ... the origin of our expression of Pyrrhic victory.
Fantastic channel Jon, really love your series. Rome TW is what brought me into the series and I was always amazed by the depth of strategy on the world map. I was surprised to learn it's far deeper than I imagined as you alluded to in your commentary (i.e. population management of cities). Looking forward to more of this. Thank you.
33:04 I always moved "useless" young generals like that into an army that is currently on campaign so the "good" general there can tutor him. He'll also gain the XP and other bonuses for being in fights. After a few upgrades while at war, I'll then move him to a medium wealth city with a good administrator to learn from him. Characters can gain good traits by being with other characters. Just don't put him into an impoverished backwater where he'll just stagnate and don't put him into a rich city where he'll spoil, and he can make up for those early negatives quite quickly.
"Plague is awful and maybe we'll see it later in this game because plague is awful fantastically good fun" Really Jon? I think medieval Europe would disagree with you on that one. haha
This is my favourite series on YT right now, I'm a fan of Total War games just not very good at them and I really enjoy watching this. Just have to wait till Tuesday now lol.
As bad as the Greeks are depicted in this game, I think the absolute worst travesty to historical accuracy in Rome Total War is Egypt, who, according to this game, never left the Bronze Age.
Also 18:40 IIRC (again, years ago last played) you can actually move the retinue among your generals. Which helps with min-maxing (command retinue to your field generals, admin retinue to your administrators, etc)
Don't forget when you enslave a new settlement the new pop is dispersed across all of your settlements. As another strategy to boost the small towns pop level.
"Another victory like that and we are done for." - Pyyrhus of Epirus. Also in Total War Warhammer any unit can technically run up to a gate and whittle it down, but you can't initiate a siege without either siege equipment or a unit with the 'living siege engine' trait, like giants. Also most basic infantry will take ages to knock down a gate.
So during the battle of Salona, I actually found that more often than not the Cilician Pirates will draw up near the equites (if you have them of course). So what I have done ever since I've discovered that, I would find a patch of tall grass and group my equites next to a unit of hidden velites. When the Cilician pirates would (supposedly) charge my equites, they would not only be pelted with a surprise rain of javelins, the javelins would be followed up with a charge of equites. I found this to be much more effective to rid the town of one of the (arguably) stronger units. Just thought I'd share (two years later, that is)
If I'm not mistaken, law also has the additional effect of countering corruption, which makes law temples very good in far-flung provinces, possibly even better than trade temples. That's why the "harsh ruler" series of traits that increase unrest but also increase law are still net positive traits.
1 denari from looting. A hastati found a penny and offered it for the glory of Rome
Probably being a wise ass
"We found a spoon!" - Life of Brian
lol made my day!
*Communism in ye old days*
@@Krontok: It is a little bit funny...
A character named Cassius Brutus has an increased chance of falling victim to assassination? Oh, the irony.
You're thinking of the two guys Ceasar fought in Greece, right? The Pompeians, Brutus and Cassius?
I don't mean to be a douchebag but it's not irony. It's coincidence. Irony would be if he was meant to be a force to stop assassination and then got assassinated because of that trait. And don't blame me for pointing this out blame George Carlin's stand up routine that clarified the meaning of irony and that people seem to name something as ironic when it is coincidence. Anyway, I'm off to fuck my hand and smoke some crack... I love the internet... and crack
@@NobleKorhedron Brutus and Cassius are 2 big names in the murder of Caesar.
@@the_tactician9858 "Et tu, brute?"
Disbanding peasants in enemy territory is actually an awesome tactic, since it also adds to the culture. So if you were to disbanding an entire stack of peasants in an enemy city, instant rebellion.
Jesus christ. Been playing this game for years and never connected dots on pop moving, but that and the bio warfare never crossed my mind.
Sinsinsinan Wow, I never would have thought of that! Good thinking!
Well I be fucked, I never in thought of that! You made my look stupid😞
Think you mean it adds to the population. Culture doesn't change. In fact it helps assimilate cities, since you can build palace upgrades sooner (palace culture has a HUGE impact on Culture Penalty...)
Awesome way to build up your core cities early on, though, to get some decent units early. Or frontier towns later in the game, to get highways built ASAP...
No way....really?
So *this* is how this game is played. When I was around 10 years old and played this I always got my arse beat since I just charged into towns head on.
Oh god, I can relate, I used to send all troops in at the same time :P
Jonathan Gréen Yes, I did the similar sort of thing when I was 9 years old! Omg, the cringy and painful flashbacks from when I thought I was cool while playing this game XD
the same to me
Hey man, roleplaying isn't cringy
I tactically place my army together and send them in all at once
My favorite thing in this game is getting sixteen-year-olds who have "Been in the Wars"
He was just a toddler bumbling about the field of battle
stangled a spartan toddler at age 4
Idk y? It seems like every kid I meet in a COD lobby has “been in the wars” lol
They were the Roman equivalent of a squire.
WW2 Style lol
its time for Rome: total economy & politics!! now including a little bit of war!
Well, to be fair economy and politics are a major part of warfare
Well, u r managing an empire, right?
Preußens Gloria you are right
3:54 the quote is “One more victory like that and we’re finished”. It was said by King Pyrrhus of Epirus after he lost the majority of his army winning the fairly inconsequential battle of Heraclea.
You were quoting Pyrrhus of Epirus who won several close victories against the Romans. The phrase Pyrrhic victory comes from this.
I suspect he knew that, and was deliberately avoiding directly naming the concept.
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Perhaps, it would be odd not knowing that having a Classics degree.
Possible it just slipped his mind. Knowing something and remembering something are two different things.
Um... I think it was a joke.
this should be called 'history lessons with Jon'
Based off the accidental alternate history of this game.
Guys I think Jon doesn't want to help his allies
Sean Mcleish Correction to ur comment as there was a lack of grammar "Guys, I don't think Jon wants to help his allies"
Crusader Templar It's such a small thing to correct, don't make such a big deal out of it!
"It's such a small thing to correct, don't make such a big deal out of it" - The grammar Nazi who literally made a big deal of the lack of a comma in a UA-cam comment.
@@TheConfidentNoob kettle meet pot.
He also forgot to put a period. (What a nice comment chain).
Damn, watching the first vid was difficult. Now having to watch the second one within 2 days is just too much. I caved in, started playing Rome TW again.... Damn you Jon, damn you. Exams start the 9th of January, should be studying my ass off, not wasting my time on this renewed, hot, passionate relationship with a forgotten love
pipi poe I hope u didn’t fail.
Wishing you luck from the future
Daughters are really really bloody usefull - Jon, 2016
I’ve came from thi future
@@elllpts_yt7090 hello fellow future person
yeess, I was so hoping for this. I love it when Jon plays classically themed games, he is so knowledgeable about the history...
趙 憲 I love the history lesson
*homer simpson shouting NEEEERRRRRDDDDD*
it is pretty great though
You quoted King Pyrrhus of Epirus, at 4:00 He made a speech after his 'victories' which were later called as 'Pyrrhic victories ' for the heavy casualties and almost non beneficial victory.
Ohhh, that's where that comes from. I always thought it had something to do with the root "pyro," as in "fire." Like, a victory that burns you as well.
Its pirro he wos illyrian aka albanian
@@shqiperia60 hid name was Pyrrhus, and he was Greek, shut the fuck up.
@@shqiperia60 Technically he was an Epirot, which was more like a mix between Greek and Illyrian. But Epirus is still more or less in modern-day Albania/Northwest-Greece, so close enough.
Edit: In fact, Apollonia, the town Jon first took over, was the ancient capital of Epirus, and as you can see, it is basically in Albania. That also explains why he was fighting Rome, Tarento is basically a quick skip over the pond.
26:00 no, actually there are HUGE differences between Law and Happiness. Law reduces Corruption: directly increasing your tax income by a percentage in a settlement (or rather, not losing a % you normally would). This becomes massively powerful in very large/rich cities. Happiness just reduces garrison requirements (which Law does as well)
Bacchus (being the god of wine and parties) also seems to increase the chances of governors in that city getting drinking traits, which are usually bad. So in other words, Jupiter is just way better than Bacchus.
Oh my god, I've played this game for years and I've never known that you can refill units by moving soldiers from another group.
Aidan Owen-Jones I didn't know that units got injured either. This game continues to amaze me
Aidan Owen-Jones I know right? :O
Sooooooooo you convinced me to get this game, i started up a major battle (the one with Sparta) and put it on easy (because I'm a noob at these strategy take-over-the-world games) and as you can probably guess... That ended terribly. I got chewed up into pieces.
So at this point i realise i should probably do the tutorial. I do this and i learnt the game decently well but as i'm fighting a war on two fronts against not only Greece but the Gauls too (as the Julii), i get my second best family member- after Gaius (the faction and family leader), Secundus Julius murdered by a crappy Gaul rush in their weakest town. This game is stress :D
So from there i panic, sent Gaius from the new city i just sacked from the Greeks with approx. 500 men- 100 of which are heavy cavalry, and destroyed the ever living crap out of every single Gaul family member i could find, revenge is sweet.
PS Thank you so much for bringing this game into my attention
Awesome, this is making me want to play it too. (And don't forget, there's quite a few good mods out there, if you want something different)
The historical battles are naturally stacked against you. I think you'd be better off toying around in custom battles or trying out the Julii Campaign.
MallarRallam Yep that's the one
Micheal Pulkka Mhm I'm in the middle of that one now, it's pretty great
For what Micheal Pulka said, most historical battles you're playing as the losing side and are basically told to win a battle that was historically lost. Best example is the historical battle where you're Brutii vs Parthia, which is basically an excercise in masochism last time i checked. The other really hard battle is Teutoborg forest, which is the battle that curbed all of rome's ambitions of expanding into Germania and is by far one of the biggest losses in rome's history.
The easiest historical battle is probably river trebia. There you're playing as the victor of the battle, one of the greatest generals in history, Hannibal Barca, and while the romans have a larger army, you have the strategic advantage. Just use your cavalry/ elephants wisely and you got this =P
Just remember- in rome total war flanking is key, surround and rout units using infantry as the anvil and cavalry as the hammer, that's your bread and butter maneuver in the game,
Other thing to remember is that phalanx, especially high tier phalanx like spartans slaughter anything in front of htem, but their flanks are really weak, isolate units and encircle/pelt with missiles.
27:00 about the temples.
I've started a Scipii game myself! Medium/medium because I'm a softy like that. I quickly took over syracuse, made it my capitol, and started grooming Messana to be my Super Unit production city. Sent over "settler" peasants, put my best educated generals there, built up the infrastructure etc.
As of 147 turns into the game, that city is pumping out standard legionary cohorts every turn for my war in Egypt. They all come standard with 13 attack 21 defense (gold/gold, 2 chevrons). I love the scipii!
Oh, Scipii are fine, but I hold the Brutii are objectively better - because Pantheon of Mars + Foundry would be pushing out those legions just as fast, but they'd be 15 attack 23 defence with silver/silver on the upgrades, but 3 XP which more than compensates...
Oh dear! Um, so I sort of got my statistics wrong. I was going off of a website's statics for the roman armies rather than actually checking in game. I made a terrible mistake.
Okay, so between the foundry and the Pantheon of Vulcan, the standard legionary cohort actually comes up to 14 attack, 27 defense (chevrons and upgrades included).
Also, I've been meaning to ask, if you know the answer: do you know what hit points do? All units have 1 hit point, except for general's bodyguards, which come with 2. If you answered it in the video, I apologize. >.>
I think hitpoints make units tougher, so they take more hits before they die. That's why a bodyguards is a stronger than a regular unit.
+Anthony Bondoc At 40:40 there's popup of what hitpoints do so there ya go
I played Shogun 2 many years ago. It's pretty damn fun, but the best parts where the ninja scenes. Will never forget playing that.
Did you know that the romans can "take over" certain gods from other nations? i distinctly remember that in my julii campaign, i conquered a gaul city, and they had a shrine which gave experience to cavalry. And i could actually turn that god "roman" and upgrade it to level 5.
PS: always build siege equipment, even if you dont need it. youmight get a useful trait that way. also, hilariously, if you skip a generals speeches all the time, he might get the "boring speaker" negative trait
Wait really? I've tried but I can't figure it out! I'm not saying that it's not true but I can't do it.
You can’t do that
Perhaps it was the replica of one of your roman ones.
None of that is true.
Boring Speaker isn't affected by skipping speeches. Its main triggers include rioting in a city you control (can also lead to "Rabble Rouser" or "Inspiring Speaker": basically riots force your governor to give speeches to try and calm the riots down...)
And, you can't assimilate temples. You CAN *upgrade* temples of another nation ONLY if their God is of the same "type" as yours.
For instance Saturn is a "God of Law" in the code, whereas Jupiter is a "God of Justice". If you take over a temple of justice as the Julii or a temple of law as the Scipii, you can upgrade it into a Temple of Jupiter (as the Julii) or Saturn (as the Scipii) of higher tier. However it's hard to know what temples you can do this with without looking at the code...
FWIW, temples of the same type give identical benefits. This is a clue as to which gods are identical. For instance, Nike and Mars aren't the same: gods of Victory and War, respectively. But there is an Egyptian god of Law, if I remember correctly (forget which one it is...) and I think Isis (the Egyptian goddess) was the equivalent of Juno...
No you cant
I can't get enough of this
What is nice about this let's play is that you can enjoy a really good game while receiving a crash course about the classical era. Jon, you are the best!
I've logged almost 400 hours across several total war games in the last 6 weeks or so. I've enjoyed it thoroughly and it began with this Rome series. Thanks Jon
Jon, will you play the Barbarian Invasion DLC with Western Roman Empire? Seems like a challenge that would be interesting for you.
It isn't that hard, I was playing it today and the Western Romans attacked my stone walled city which only had 3 units, and only killed 7 men.
ThatN00dle98 When you play as west rome though, it is very tough, starting with a large empire that isn't organized how you want, with enemies on multiple fronts, while also dealing with rebels and a bleeding economy.
Jason Fenton Destroy everything for Denari, abandon the frontiers, and start the new Empire from Italy
I've never tried western Rome, seemed like too much work
This is the best shit ever to watch while hung over :D I love this game and I've never seen any of your content before. Subbed
Ah, there's nothing like a nice hot cup of tea on a cold Autumn evening to go with watching a man determined to set the ancient world on fire.
One tip I don't remember you mentioning. A tired unit can recover all the way to fresh if they are left standing or walking slowly for a couple minutes. Discovered that in a skin of my teeth battle. I took so long organizing the last attack, they had started recovering.
Noo! It's over too soon. I need more. Just hook it too my veins!
I am so glad they left the Divinitas song in the Remaster. Underrated map music.
New video, and it's 60 mins long. Guess I won't go to bed for an hour.
@@jachpodcast748 No.
@Dark Wings Thanks for your concern. The answer is no.
"Awesome Temple of Mars" I didn't realize the God's measured worship levels by how awesome it is XD
Correction on the temples for anyone curious:
The Brutii DO get a temple with 10% bonus to happiness each level, it's just disguised as the temple of health (Juno). Basically it's 5% from the temple itself, and another 5% from the health bonus. BUT! When you have a settlement with a growth rate that's over 5% per turn, then any added growth (in increments of .5%) adds another 5% to your happiness. So if I have a settlement with a growth rate of 5% and i build a temple to Juno, thus pushing the growth rate to 5.5%, then I effectively have a temple that can provide a 15%!!! happiness boost per level of temple, which is insane. Also of note, the Scipii with the temple of Vulcan can actually train the best troops. Having better weapons and armor is far superior to having more experience. A one level increase to both weapons and armor is about the same as 3 levels of experience (despite what the stat card says), as I've found in custom battles.
Also Jupiter is way better than Bacchus for the Julii. Law improves public order and reduces garrison requirements but also reduces the money siphoned off by the corruption effect, making it a great choice for large cities. General happiness only improves public order and reduce garrison requirements, so it's weaker.
Really enjoy matn commentary it seems unique to all other gamers i have found. Now he's the only channel that plays game that I can sit down and enjoy a full series off without getting bored of it.
Jon I cant even explain how flipping AWESOME this series is so far! Ive spent countless lifetimes playing the total war games, and your style of explaining your every move in detail is just perfect for this game. After a long day of work this is better than a cold beer :)
Im rewatching this series for the 3rd time and i don't know why i like watching someone play when I can play it myself
Because youre able to sit back and relax and just enjoy the show. That and Jon is fun to listen to.
This series is fascinating. I originally subscribed during YOLO New Vegas because I was interested in an 'expert' level playthrough of the game, and I loved it. Now hearing Jon describe all the mechanics in detail is absolutely enthralling and I can't wait for next tuesday.
WAIT Squalor is represented by a rat? FOR 10 YEARS I THOUGHT IT WAS A DARK BLUE BERET, DAMMIT JOHN!
I thought it looked like a steak! And always scratched my head about why the hell the RtW designers chose a flippin' steak to represent squalor. Rats. Right.
Mikey Clarke I thought it was like a rotten steak or something. Rat does make more sense
I hope this will be a full playthrough,I love Rome: Total War :3 And the fact that you actually know a lot about the era makes it just that much better.
I'm so glad this is a series, Jon, you've got me playing the game again.
The disband unit to gain population trick is absolutely gold! Thanks Jon. Awesome tips. I think you may have been a general in your past life. :-P
It's worth noting that there is a difference between Bacchus and Jupiter. The bonus to law that Jupiter yields also reduces corruption which can increase your settlement's profitability later down the line. I've also heard, though haven't confirmed, that Bacchus can make it more likely for any family members in that settlement to pick up drinking related traits.
Top_Tier_Dilettante baccus also gives the best retinue
wait wait wait, three hundred thousand subscribers, hour long video, one ad... this guy is a lot better than some 500k sub people I know... look at the lack of ads... I give up, this guy has a new subscriber.
For me, one of the best parts of the game was the relaxing campaign map music
Ah I had no idea that you're not supposed to stack units, makes so much sense!
the Bruttii do have one weakness though, they lack buildings that provide law, law reduces corruption in settlements, which means each new city will be slightly worth less than the ones before it.
Classics Jon may be best Jon yet.
EDIT: Keep never stopping. The best gameplay is from a commentator who is so good at the game, replays are required to understand what's going on. I'm starting to fall in love with this series.
Meanwhile I'm the guy who enjoys playing as the Scipii.
I like the blue color, and the punic wars are fun to roleplay
The Brutii temple of Mars can cause generals to get some bad traits as can the drinking one for the Julii also the Scipii temples don't and the pantheon level forging one gives +2 exp rank for troops better equipment which you can't earn in battle like exp and 10% law which reduces your income loss from corruption and its so easy to just go east and take what the Brutii should and cripple them for the entire game and its not to hard to do it to the Julii as well. I enjoy the Scipii too.
Brilliant videos. This is one of my favourite childhood games. One feature from medieval total war that didn't make it into Rome that i really miss is the ability to turn on your ally at any point in the battle. I loved it.
Scipio: 'Don't leave me high, don't leave me dry.'
Jon, Claire.....if you all took a break, it's cool.
there's always the Rome series to entertain us ^_^
I could easily watch you play this for another 2000 hours
I like how organic this game is, things that are clearly not in manual or anywhere, like if u disband unit, people obviously go somewhere, harvest is different every year, dont train in queue and more...some games are just nicely thought trough
Your videos have become one of my main videos to download to kill time on the numerous flights I have to be on each month. Thanks for your hard work and keep it up!
you should try mount and blade
Good news
I still remember how my most beloved died 10 years ago. He drowned in a river because he missed the bridge.
fun fact: ceasar from fallout NV used the flanking tactic on his war campaigns from how they were described.
THANK YOU JON! After your last rome video I ( as a Diehard AOE veteran ) was at first skeptical but went out and got total war rome and instantly fell in love with it ! Im currently addicted to it as of being 48 hours into owning it ! Although im not the best ive been looking foreward to your videos on the game so i can get better. Keep it up!
I'm loving how much you're loving this series. Great fun to watch.
Thanks Jon you convinced me to play this amazing game again after 3 years thanks mate!
Best Empire campaign play through I've ever watched
4:00 I think it was during the Phyric war when the king of Epirus declared "One more victory and the whole war shall be lost"
you paraphrased Pyrrhus of epirus from whom we get the term Pyrrhic victory a victory that cost so much that it spelt doom for the wider campaign
I couldn't tell if you were being cheeky or not, but your quote is spectacularly appropriate in this context, since it comes from Pyrrhus of Epirus, after winning a battle against Rome, as quoted by Plutarch: "If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined" ... the origin of our expression of Pyrrhic victory.
carmencr yes he was being cheeky - the tone of voice alone should’ve given it away
3:50 Phyrus of Epirus, the man whose name will go on in military history to describe a victory that was so bloody it might as well have been a defeat.
1:50 was one of the rejected titles for this game...
Also, happy 230,000 Subscribers!
Thanks :) I'm not doing anything for it, though - next big milestone will be at 250,000.
Many A True Nerd Can't wait for that.
Many A True Nerd you deserve 100 times more subs than that as your an amazing UA-camr and I'm surprised your so small compared to what you should be
UA-cam must be going down the toilet if a channel like this has 230k and some other shit youtuber has 5 mil
welp... 251k as or march 27th, cheers :)
Fantastic channel Jon, really love your series. Rome TW is what brought me into the series and I was always amazed by the depth of strategy on the world map. I was surprised to learn it's far deeper than I imagined as you alluded to in your commentary (i.e. population management of cities). Looking forward to more of this. Thank you.
I'm really looking forward to seeing you helping your allies, if they ever decide to make a move.
33:04 I always moved "useless" young generals like that into an army that is currently on campaign so the "good" general there can tutor him. He'll also gain the XP and other bonuses for being in fights. After a few upgrades while at war, I'll then move him to a medium wealth city with a good administrator to learn from him. Characters can gain good traits by being with other characters. Just don't put him into an impoverished backwater where he'll just stagnate and don't put him into a rich city where he'll spoil, and he can make up for those early negatives quite quickly.
Watching this again in 2021. This series is peak MATN.
39:56 the origin of Spurius Scapula :D
holy shit... I miss this childhood game! I want to watch so much more of this!!! Keep up the awesome work!
Jon would be the best siege master. He would just shout at the people inside about how they shouldn't be there or aren't equipped as they should be.
Oh i love watching 1hr videos before 3 hours of science from 8:50 am and an english mock exam
Thank you! My undying love for you and this game makes my day.
"Plague is awful and maybe we'll see it later in this game because plague is awful fantastically good fun" Really Jon? I think medieval Europe would disagree with you on that one. haha
I'm sure he's not laughing here in 2020
What a privilege we have to live in this day and age and play rome total war.
Best when slowed to 75%. Jesus it's hard to keep up with this guy but I love the series!
I've been pretty sick today and this just what I needed, thanks for the content!
This is my favourite series on YT right now, I'm a fan of Total War games just not very good at them and I really enjoy watching this. Just have to wait till Tuesday now lol.
thanks alot for all the tips and insight into the mechanics of the game i didnt know how in depth this game can be
I'm supposed to be playing Game of War but this one player keeps kicking my ass.
James McPherson is it the Legend27?
CanadianOreoable yeah, the legend27
James Mair Who is theLegend27?
Some say the Legend27 is the first game of war player ever
Loving the Maccabee tactics on display here
As bad as the Greeks are depicted in this game, I think the absolute worst travesty to historical accuracy in Rome Total War is Egypt, who, according to this game, never left the Bronze Age.
Hi Jon, Thanks for making great videos!
Best total war game ever!
I've been playing Total War for years and I had no idea you could do that trick with the peasants. Just goes to show how complex this game is.
You're going to make me install this game again with these vids.............
Segestica is a river port town having 3 rivers convege near it has made it a strong trade position.
Also 18:40 IIRC (again, years ago last played) you can actually move the retinue among your generals. Which helps with min-maxing (command retinue to your field generals, admin retinue to your administrators, etc)
Don't forget when you enslave a new settlement the new pop is dispersed across all of your settlements. As another strategy to boost the small towns pop level.
the bull and horns is a good formation, one head on group(bull), two to flank either side(horns), and one to stay behind for dier times(loins)
Seeing True Nerd celebrate the marriage, and then cringe when he saw their ages was glorious.
I'm always looking forward to a new video from you, Jon. Always a delight to watch :-)
I can now tell the difference between Jon knowing what he is doing and him acting like he knows what he is doing.
"Another victory like that and we are done for." - Pyyrhus of Epirus. Also in Total War Warhammer any unit can technically run up to a gate and whittle it down, but you can't initiate a siege without either siege equipment or a unit with the 'living siege engine' trait, like giants. Also most basic infantry will take ages to knock down a gate.
So during the battle of Salona, I actually found that more often than not the Cilician Pirates will draw up near the equites (if you have them of course). So what I have done ever since I've discovered that, I would find a patch of tall grass and group my equites next to a unit of hidden velites. When the Cilician pirates would (supposedly) charge my equites, they would not only be pelted with a surprise rain of javelins, the javelins would be followed up with a charge of equites. I found this to be much more effective to rid the town of one of the (arguably) stronger units. Just thought I'd share (two years later, that is)
That population movement tip blew my mind....in 2020....
If I'm not mistaken, law also has the additional effect of countering corruption, which makes law temples very good in far-flung provinces, possibly even better than trade temples. That's why the "harsh ruler" series of traits that increase unrest but also increase law are still net positive traits.
A thing not everyone knows, if you hold space it highlights where everyone you've assigned is going to be.
Hopefully this series will go on for a while, it is very interesting.