Indeed. Lawyer is expected to protect privacy of his clients or he can be removed from his profession, so given this how is request for password to his computer or his mobile phone a reasonable request? Same with medical doctors and some military services members.
You can try to sue them. Whether or not you have a case is another matter. The fact that they're required to have multiple indicators that evidence might exist on these devices, when they had none, means he may well have a case. They can't simply search through people's devices because they feel like it.
breny3 so u ok with them having access to every thing in your fone and puter,? I’m not. And this guys a lawyer so extra bs. Just saying even if he wins we as normals won’t get proper security even after we’ve given the government access to our very thoughts and privacy
@@boquin84 Being in Guatemala and Colombia is reasonable suspicion of absolutely nothing aside from being in other countries for 4 months. If you are talking source of cocaine, if this man has no history then that's a baseless suspicion and an over reach of power. I'm not for arbitrary personal data collection.
@@travismiller89 you have no idea what it was flagged for, neither do I, so how do you know that it is an over reach? Cocaine is not the only thing that comes from Colombia.... Not to mention that it is not common practice to go through someone's personal computers or phones, there has to be a reason to it..... You and I don't know what those reasons are....
Worse, much worse. It's the bloody equivalent of the thought police. It's a clear case of government overreach and I suspect is constitutionally unsustainable.
It's more like having locked, sealed documents relating to a court case in which you are a lawyer defending a client against the state, and the state demands you open and unseal those files so they can make photocopies of the confidential documents... and if you refuse they'll just take them from you.
Well in America they should. But then again the constitution seems to be better served as TP than to protect the rights of its citizens. The TSA oversteps it’s own policies and procedures all the time. There are countless videos of these examples.
Not at he border no warrant needed and this also happens when you come back into the US. This is why use a burner device flip phone no password all you can do is dial a number it doesn't even have history of calls. I buy a local sim card just throw it away when they ask too look at the phone they play with it a few minutes ask why I'm carry this phone. I tell them I don't risk losing an expensive phone or my phone being hacked. They can't keep you from entering even if they take the phone it's not worth more then $20 I will get another one.
@@Mike-01234 if you are a US citizen the US border agents cant look at your phone, they can if you are a forigner. atleast they respect their own people
Unpopular Patriot why should the lawyer encrypt information to stop the government breaking its own law? Also, how do you know it isn't encrypted? I have machines that are entirely encrypted and hence password protected. Providing password decrypts the data. It wouldn't be unprofessional for him not to encrypt the data. If you haven't noticed, most people don't. He took responsibility by not allowing them to access his device.
Sybrand Botes First off, Canadian laws allow this type of searches and seizures (it’s in the video). Second, a lawyer, knowing that law, should not have kept that information on his devices, if he knew it was sensitive. There are ways to email, transfer or carry files on a zip drive or the like, without having them on a laptop or smart phone. Furthermore, the specific files could have been encrypted, allowing him to open his devices for the customs, while keeping specific sensitive files secure.
I thought that New Zealand had the most popular prime ministers in the world???... Why isn't Jacinta working on those rights. Sounds to me a repeat of the "Obama Phenomenon" with her.
I recommend wiping your device clean before crossing the border, and set up a password that will be fun to give to a border agent, like FYOUCBA. Put one document on the desktop or home screen of your device titled "Why Most Government Employees are Morally Deficient" or something like that. Use your imagination and have fun with it!
Cowardice, political correctness and conformity are all a tyranny needs to stay in business. If you and your friends don't oppose it, it will flourish and eventually devour you and your progeny. You can read about it in the history books like The Gulag Archipelago.
VikingBiker I was given a seizure number and told to contact them in 3 business days. When I contacted them, I kept on getting the runaround. Then I filled a complaint never got a response. Eventually I just gave up this happened in 2011. I was coming back from Australia with my family.
@@aab4219 if you know to send letters in a way that states if they do not reply POST USPS and notarized within a time frame, they agree. You then sue them, for what ever agreement they agreed to by not responding.You still have to file a charge of theft regardless, and sue them for private property stolen with no victim,or complaint of a victim.
@@grumblesNhoneybee The problem is that he will have to fork out thousands of dollars in legal fees which will trump the price-tag of his laptop. You can't just make up a figure when it comes to actual goods, such as a laptop in this case. So, if his laptop is worth 700-800, is it worth the thousands he will have to pay to take them to court? And when you go against the government, it's a tough battle. More times than not, you end up losing. I feel for the guy but that's the truth. I wish it wasn't. ;(
I agree with this lawyer. Border patrol or any officer should not be allowed to search any laptop or smartphone. That’s invading your privacy. Regardless of whatever situation nobody has the right to go through your device. That’s none of their business what’s on your phone or laptop. Encrypt everything and set everything to delete with 3 wrong password attempts.
They asked me for the password to my laptop. I told them it was "noneofyourbusiness" and they took it away from me anyway for supposedly being uncooperative.
The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that Client-Solicitor privilege is protected under S. 7 as a fundamental justice for all Canadians. But apparently border officers are above the Constitution. The Supreme Court has also ruled that any statutes that may infringe upon Client-Solicitor privilege is to be read as restricted as possible. Even if that border agent was operating under an act that allowed a warrentless search, that act would not extend to the border agents discretion to search a lawyer's work device.
Actually because he is at a POE(point of entry) He no longer has the same level of rights and is open to a higher level of scrutiny. It is only at a POE that the CBSA has these rights.
CBSA will not go through your case! CBSA Officer is just making sure this "lawyer" or anyone else don't bring into Canada stuff that is prohibited like child pornography... Its easier for everyone else to abide by this than letting everyone else come into Canada without being searched
Even at points of entry, they can't simply request passwords because they feel like it. They require multiple indicators that evidence could be found on the devices, which basically means probable cause.
@@StalkedByLosers yes I can see now customs officer slips a USB up your behind and download all your memory. Now you can't remember where you parked your car last week or what your wife looks like. Haha....😂🤣😉😐
@O K i agree, you dont think that lobbying wasnt done by manufacturers of these devives for govt to seize as many as possible or make it easier to just buy an extra one imstead of following their rules. There are policies about destroyi g personal electronics/siezing personal electronics in all sorts of govt agencies and departments.. Really nearly every dept that deals with people directly has policy of confiscating cell phones and destroying them, and your consent is given to do this by enetering their property/building/custody ...its just another way to seperate you from your money again for something youve already purchased...
This happened to me to! They took my phone and started calling all my contacts not believing me on what I was doing in the U.S. I have never felt so invaded! Then on top of that they took my finger prints and my photo.
You’re referring to USCBP Officers NOT CBSA Officers. CBSA Officers would never fingerprint or photograph a Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident of Canada.
Xander Smith And they will include children in strip searches, and searches will be recorded on video for security and training purposes. But they will tell us It's for our safety!
Sundar Pichai Id If you have a MacBook Pro. iCloud drive is in the finder. There is no way to lock it down. So, anyone searching a Mac can view the cloud storage on the Mac.
@Rata 4U border security can compel without a warrant. Wiping knowingly is a crime as well. Either encrypt your data within your device, wipe them yourselves before crossing borders or dont do shady stuff
@GEM Well it never hurts to give the cops a taste of their own medicine. People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of it's people.
Unlawful is unlawful only if it's unlawful ... if statute provides for the power to do so, they can do so. There are instances where a warrant is not required when doing a search.
@@AdeptPaladin It's unfortunate that this is happening, but it is understandable if a lawyer needs to be searched (under reasonable circumstances) since the greater interest of safety is at stake. One of the rules of law is that no right is absolute - this goes for solicitor-client privilege, although it is near absolute. No litigation has occurred on this matter yet, but such a law that allows for search under reasonable circumstances (although quite possibly not the case in this instance) might be saved under Section 1 of the Charter.
If he's an attorney wouldn't they need an attorney present and a warrant to make sure that privilege was preserved? I'm assuming the Border operates on the same laws as the RCMP.
Unfortunately, these cases are becoming all too frequent. Our devices carry so much information about ourselves, which are easily lockable with passwords and encryption. I can understand government worries because of terrorism, crime etc. But on the other hand, these are private devices. There needs to be a balance between what is okay and not.
Compared to areas like Thailand no Australia isn't as bad. If you look and act like a total creep you will likely be checked. If your answers set off something that worries the officer then you'll be checked. It's not an exact science but spending months in Columbia as a lawyer it starts to be suspicious. A fiscal question, or bloodshot eyes, or even a nervous twitch or laugh can get the ball rolling.
Or keep your files encrypted in a cloud and use clean laptop and mobile phone anywhere you go from a local office in country of your destination. I do understand the need for procedures due to risk of terrorism but still some professionals cannot give access to the content of their files to anyone because regulations of their professions do not allow such security bridge. It is true about lawyers, sworn translators, people who work with all kinds of sensitive and confidential data protected by legal regulations referring to third party rights, third party interest, patent protection etc. Safety procedures of immigration offices or airport security cannot just ignore such additonal legal restrictions with which travelling professionals have to comply.
I really hope this issue will finally be tested in court, even in the Supreme Court if need be. Being asked to surrender passwords to personal devices feels like a fundamental breach of privacy, it's like being asked for password to email, or bank account. There are no compelling reasons to do that at border crossings.
Any (international) lawyer who travels with sensitive client data on their devices, and doesn't encrypt it, is asking for troubles in certain countries. As a tech geek since the early nineties, I am fully aware of how to subvert such overreach of authority. If a border officer asked for my $500 laptop, I'd happily hand it over to them, knowing full well that when they fire it up, they'll be presented with an empty Linux based operating system (Tails OS), completely void of anything of interest. And even if they found the USB stick I kept my important files on, it's heavily encrypted anyway, and backed up (and encrypted) elsewhere..
We are dealing with organized stalking groups who are given jobs in positions where they may have access to ppls personal info which is used for criminal purposes. I was a target of ID theft and have had to deal with hacked electronics and accts, intercepted phone calls, stolen utilities, and home break-ins, among other things. I hope this lawyer finds a way to protect his privacy as it may lead to protection for everyone. It amazes me how ppl just seem to accept all the crime associated with the rapidly growing technology. If we have to spend all our time trying to untangle the messes perpetrated on us, how will we ever accomplish any productive work?
That's their main goal. To prevent you from being productive and from freeing yourself from that slavery. They don't sleep at night, shackling over the fact that a revolution may arise at any time.
If you watch border security you would know they were checking if he had any contact with a drug related conatcs because he was comming from a drug source country and they wanted to make sure he was not smuggling drugs into Canada.
@@lenitaa7938 Lmao, they glance at your pictures and contacts looking for signs of drug trafficking and child molestation. You know how many pedophiles have been caught this way? It's enough that a lawyer with his drawers in a twist that spent alot of time in a high drug exportation zone should not be your poster boy. You aren't technically back in canada at a port of entry think of it as being on the front step. Ports of entry and border crossings are set up under international agreements. Hence why you can have statesless people in them. It's only after you clear the border that you revert back to canada. Hence why the border security differs from the RCMP on jurisdictional bases and rules. A lawyer should damn well know this as the laws about inspections have been around for generations. He's either hiding something or trying to get his 15min of fame.
They took my knife that was shipped and complied with their own rules. They said they would mail me notices but that never happened. Enjoy that knife you "confiscated"
@@TheseEyesSeeDarknessClearly Perhaps, but it would seem risky to me only because by the time he made it home, someone at the airport might have cracked the passwords (depending on how high a priority was being placed on getting into his devices).
Sybrand Botes no it doesn’t iPhones have a setting that can wipe or lock your phone after a certain amount missed consecutive passcode attempts. Also when activating iCloud lock or remotely wiping an iPhone, it will work even if the phone is off. The instructions are simply queued until the phone is turned back on. He probably either locked/wiped it remotely with iCloud using another device or someone else’s device.
Canadian border is awful. Every time I travel there it's a nightmare, they always screen me for secondary examination without reason, even though they have all my information and ETA. I don't get why they are so afraid of people immigrating illegally from Europe, since we have a much better life standard here. I also don't get why invading the people's digital privacy like that, if someone has something actually compromising, they will just send it over the internet or other means and download the information once they were there.
Its a popular practice in the US as well. US Searches Of Cellphones, Laptops At Airports On The Rise, Lawsuit Claims - jamaica-gleaner.com/article/world-news/20190501/us-searches-cellphones-laptops-airports-rise-lawsuit-claims.
Agree with you Sim. If there are something to hide, I would send it to my email by attachment and download it again after arrive the Canadian soil. So CBSA can not find anything if one wants to hide the the things in purpose. By the way CBSA is violating the privacy of the passenger. Where is the Human Rights as usually referred by Canada ? Canada, please don't mention Human Rights again until you change your practice.
Travis Miller not a requirement in the us, I been pulled for secondary search and all they wanted to do was to make sure my phone and laptop wasn’t a bomb so scanned it a couple times and pressed every button and handed it back to me..
@@andychang6823 Sometimes it seems they do that just to humiliate us. It's proven those practices do not improve security, it's just an annoyance that shoves on our face that we are not part of the noble class, hence why we are forced to pay taxes and bow to "law enforcers" even whey they do something questionable, because they have the power. 😭
@@zakichoudhary507 I just wrote an email to the Minister of Public Safety. No, this garbage is not happening. I travel internationally and will make a gigantic scene if any guard tries to snoop into my personal space. I can understand if I am being charged but if not:#$^% off to any law enforcement officer.
DanSk451 no we don’t unless ur on a watch list lol! Most we do is require an X-ray and a maybe a physical fingering.. I was selected for secondary one day returning into America and my shits was dead and all they did was press every button to make sure wasn’t a bomb after it passed threw another scanner.. lady handed both my iPhone and laptop back to me and waved me on..
violation of 4th amendment. EASY.HE NOW NEED TO FILE A CRIMINAL CHARGE OF THEFT, AND ALSO CHARGE THE,GOV. 100$HR, UNTIL YOUR PROPERTY IS RETURNED , FOR 4TH AMENDMENT VIOLATION..S'..............FYI
Whenever I cross a border I always back up my iPad to the cloud, then wipe it to factory defaults before crossing, then after crossing I'll resync to the cloud to download everything. I'll only cross borders with completely empty/clean/wiped devices.
i always reset my android phone and formatted my laptop before the plane land on the runway. i have been subject to one of those screening last year, all they see on my phone and laptop was fresh installed windows 10 and clean phone without a single picture or document.
Indeed but the problem is that in case of certain documents procedure doesn't foresee the possibility of digital processing outside off someone's company issued device. As for this case: there are other options to check if the device is not filled with explosives than going through it's content. As for this case I can feel the lawsuit coming since it's obvious conflict of two values protected by the law and in such case legal protection of clients should have superiority.
@@aab4219 Five Eyes, I'm aware of the intelligence connections. All members of NATO which too are merely poodles 🐩 on Uncle Sam's leash. NATO should have been dissolved when the Warsaw Pact was.
ALX Armed Liberation Xecutive Lmao I’m originally from Poland. Poland wants nothing too do with Russia we hate them. Now we have the 8 largest economy in the EU
US citizen here. Even in our crazy country, this is something that isn’t done. What if he was a doctor with confidential patient files? How is that any different? The attorney really had no choice in what he did. He had to protect privilege. I know everyone says to clean your electronics before entering the country, but I doubt he knew there was a possibility that would happen. Does Canada allow searches of private documents without probable cause?
This lawyer deserves praise. He is a defender of our rights and more people need to follow his lead.
its actually illegal here to pry into people's private belongings unless they suspect something seriosly bad.. like terrorism... or a baby diddler
"A reasonable request" hmmmm. By whose standards?
You should take business law 101. Reasonable in law is defined as a bar or standard that's above the average expectation.
America!
Indeed. Lawyer is expected to protect privacy of his clients or he can be removed from his profession, so given this how is request for password to his computer or his mobile phone a reasonable request? Same with medical doctors and some military services members.
@@JuggernautProductions
This was for Canada.
@@biscuitninja fully aware. I am saying they're trying to mirror USA
Seriously, this is an overreach of power. Even for us normis.
Sue them.. at best only the special will get privileges back.
You can't sue them, it's their laws their country. We are all proud Canadians and should travel inside our country.
You can try to sue them. Whether or not you have a case is another matter. The fact that they're required to have multiple indicators that evidence might exist on these devices, when they had none, means he may well have a case. They can't simply search through people's devices because they feel like it.
breny3 so u ok with them having access to every thing in your fone and puter,? I’m not.
And this guys a lawyer so extra bs. Just saying even if he wins we as normals won’t get proper security even after we’ve given the government access to our very thoughts and privacy
👍yes, no privacy.
Why was he in these bait countries for so long? Better safe than sorry.
This is ridiculous, no government should be allowed to go through our personal devices.
@@boquin84 Being in Guatemala and Colombia is reasonable suspicion of absolutely nothing aside from being in other countries for 4 months. If you are talking source of cocaine, if this man has no history then that's a baseless suspicion and an over reach of power. I'm not for arbitrary personal data collection.
@@travismiller89 you have no idea what it was flagged for, neither do I, so how do you know that it is an over reach? Cocaine is not the only thing that comes from Colombia.... Not to mention that it is not common practice to go through someone's personal computers or phones, there has to be a reason to it..... You and I don't know what those reasons are....
WHEN SHEEP COMPLY, THE WOLVES GO FOR BROKE.
Tell that to Obama when caught spying on Angela Merkels' cellphone,,, lol
Not without a warrant at least
Letting the border officers have access to the contents on your phone is equivalent to a strip search, or worse.
Definitely worse
Ha, but boarder Officier do have the right to strip search you!
vocalbc clown
Worse, much worse. It's the bloody equivalent of the thought police. It's a clear case of government overreach and I suspect is constitutionally unsustainable.
It's more like having locked, sealed documents relating to a court case in which you are a lawyer defending a client against the state, and the state demands you open and unseal those files so they can make photocopies of the confidential documents... and if you refuse they'll just take them from you.
Crazy amount of power they have
When it comes down to it, its violence.
Not really...
@@StalkedByLosersit's creepy abuse.
@@campkiray do u support these low level workers having access to ur life and work?
If he got them back. He better change all those devices. He can't trust them anymore. This has been a problem for political activists for years
do you really think that's the problem of the story ? you guys will have no right in a couple of years .... and you don't seems to care .... have fun
Exactly. What would you recommend for screening or removing "fedware"?
Heard they can put stuff deep on the system
I didn't expect Canadian TSA to be on par with US in terms of being harsh.
@Brandi Bohannon quite true
It’s not TSA, you moron. The TSA are just security screeners. This is customs.
Do you even know what TSA is??
Border patrol is not tsa
American agents don't search electronics without a warrant.
This sounds EXTREMELY illegal! Wouldn't they need a warrant?
Apparently the law doesn't compel them to have one.
Well in America they should. But then again the constitution seems to be better served as TP than to protect the rights of its citizens. The TSA oversteps it’s own policies and procedures all the time. There are countless videos of these examples.
No, it is written that they can look through electronic devices.
Not at he border no warrant needed and this also happens when you come back into the US. This is why use a burner device flip phone no password all you can do is dial a number it doesn't even have history of calls. I buy a local sim card just throw it away when they ask too look at the phone they play with it a few minutes ask why I'm carry this phone. I tell them I don't risk losing an expensive phone or my phone being hacked. They can't keep you from entering even if they take the phone it's not worth more then $20 I will get another one.
@@Mike-01234 if you are a US citizen the US border agents cant look at your phone, they can if you are a forigner. atleast they respect their own people
we live in a day and age where the rights to normal citizen are entirely gone. just getting worst by the minute
Need a revolution
Prepare to take back your country by force
black people could have told you this over the past 100 years .
Bluupz Bluupz yep we need a clean fresh start I agree with you 💕
Canadians do something about this, stop being pansies
Lawyer-client confidentiality, they are in big legal trouble.
@@matty86suk if the device contains files related to a case against the government or the cbsa...
@@matty86suk That's simplistic view u have! Lawyers travel and cross borders on behalf of their clients, for a variety of reasons!
Unpopular Patriot lawyer-client confidentiality isn't some ethical standard enforced by lawyers, it's law.
Unpopular Patriot why should the lawyer encrypt information to stop the government breaking its own law? Also, how do you know it isn't encrypted? I have machines that are entirely encrypted and hence password protected. Providing password decrypts the data. It wouldn't be unprofessional for him not to encrypt the data. If you haven't noticed, most people don't. He took responsibility by not allowing them to access his device.
Sybrand Botes First off, Canadian laws allow this type of searches and seizures (it’s in the video). Second, a lawyer, knowing that law, should not have kept that information on his devices, if he knew it was sensitive. There are ways to email, transfer or carry files on a zip drive or the like, without having them on a laptop or smart phone. Furthermore, the specific files could have been encrypted, allowing him to open his devices for the customs, while keeping specific sensitive files secure.
You have no rights. Same in New Zealand no password $5000 fine and or jail time.. 1984 is here.
Seriously?!?! Wow thought NZ was better than the rest of the governments
I thought that New Zealand had the most popular prime ministers in the world???... Why isn't Jacinta working on those rights. Sounds to me a repeat of the "Obama Phenomenon" with her.
@@skyejacques yes bring it in to the small country, iron out the bugs then roll it out to the rest of the west.
*Buy a cheap phone dont put any information on it, put your sim card in that while traveling.*
Good freaking idea !
Put the Sim card in what?
@@Livetoeat171 the cheap travel phone
Don't put any information just the sim card.....got it.
Just so y'all know this man isn't giving you any real useful information the sim card is what has all your phones information and data on it sooooooo
I recommend wiping your device clean before crossing the border, and set up a password that will be fun to give to a border agent, like FYOUCBA. Put one document on the desktop or home screen of your device titled "Why Most Government Employees are Morally Deficient" or something like that. Use your imagination and have fun with it!
paulkevin thats so childish
Cowardice, political correctness and conformity are all a tyranny needs to stay in business. If you and your friends don't oppose it, it will flourish and eventually devour you and your progeny. You can read about it in the history books like The Gulag Archipelago.
Hahahaha
Thanks doll!
Exactly! Why are they so morally deficient? Is it because the powers given to them actually make them not to think anymore?
I had my laptop top seized because I lost my charger on vacation and the battery was dead so they weren’t able too go through it.
VikingBiker
I was given a seizure number and told to contact them in 3 business days. When I contacted them, I kept on getting the runaround. Then I filled a complaint never got a response. Eventually I just gave up this happened in 2011. I was coming back from Australia with my family.
@@aab4219 YOU SUE THEM, AND SEND LETTERS CHARGING THEM 100$ PER HR, UNTIL YOUR PROPERTY IS RETURNED.... SUE THEM AGAIN!
grumblesNgrumbles
I was told it was pointless. Just waste of time and money.
@@aab4219 if you know to send letters in a way that states if they do not reply POST USPS and notarized within a time frame, they agree. You then sue them, for what ever agreement they agreed to by not responding.You still have to file a charge of theft regardless, and sue them for private property stolen with no victim,or complaint of a victim.
@@grumblesNhoneybee The problem is that he will have to fork out thousands of dollars in legal fees which will trump the price-tag of his laptop. You can't just make up a figure when it comes to actual goods, such as a laptop in this case. So, if his laptop is worth 700-800, is it worth the thousands he will have to pay to take them to court? And when you go against the government, it's a tough battle. More times than not, you end up losing. I feel for the guy but that's the truth. I wish it wasn't. ;(
Wow! This should be illegal! ! Unbelievable
If he is a registered, practicing lawyer his documents should be considered attorney, client privalege.
I agree with this lawyer. Border patrol or any officer should not be allowed to search any laptop or smartphone. That’s invading your privacy. Regardless of whatever situation nobody has the right to go through your device. That’s none of their business what’s on your phone or laptop. Encrypt everything and set everything to delete with 3 wrong password attempts.
They asked me for the password to my laptop. I told them it was "noneofyourbusiness" and they took it away from me anyway for supposedly being uncooperative.
Next time have a password like ......
Gofuckyourselves
Did they ever return your laptop?
Stealing your property? What a violation. I hope you complained and fought back.
I had my laptop shipped to a fedex office in the city I was visited. It worked quite well.
The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that Client-Solicitor privilege is protected under S. 7 as a fundamental justice for all Canadians. But apparently border officers are above the Constitution.
The Supreme Court has also ruled that any statutes that may infringe upon Client-Solicitor privilege is to be read as restricted as possible. Even if that border agent was operating under an act that allowed a warrentless search, that act would not extend to the border agents discretion to search a lawyer's work device.
Actually because he is at a POE(point of entry) He no longer has the same level of rights and is open to a higher level of scrutiny. It is only at a POE that the CBSA has these rights.
Well, at least they aren't talking nuclear waste, razor wire, and a 30 foot high wall at the border.
CBSA will not go through your case! CBSA Officer is just making sure this "lawyer" or anyone else don't bring into Canada stuff that is prohibited like child pornography... Its easier for everyone else to abide by this than letting everyone else come into Canada without being searched
@@fairness668 Not good enough! With such wide parameters, absolutely anyone can be searched!
We don't let even police do this!
Total b.s. if you don't trust a solicitor without cause for suspicion.
Trying to police information crossing the border. Brilliant...
The seizure is illegal. Period. Sue them. I’m a security professional. This is power overreaching. It’s not allowed.
No searches without probable cause!
except at a POE
Even at points of entry, they can't simply request passwords because they feel like it. They require multiple indicators that evidence could be found on the devices, which basically means probable cause.
Don't bring your phone when crossing the border. Just buy a new pay-as-you-go phone that you can use when crossing the border.
What are poor people supposed to do give up freedom if they cant afford a proxy around unreasonable search and seizure
Dont bring a computer either. In fact dont even bring yourself, theyll stick fingers in all your holes if you dont have anything else to search
@@StalkedByLosers yes I can see now customs officer slips a USB up your behind and download all your memory.
Now you can't remember where you parked your car last week or what your wife looks like. Haha....😂🤣😉😐
Franklin Winnemucca you can buy a cheap burner phone for like $40-60, that's nothing compared to the price of traveling out of country...
@O K i agree, you dont think that lobbying wasnt done by manufacturers of these devives for govt to seize as many as possible or make it easier to just buy an extra one imstead of following their rules. There are policies about destroyi g personal electronics/siezing personal electronics in all sorts of govt agencies and departments.. Really nearly every dept that deals with people directly has policy of confiscating cell phones and destroying them, and your consent is given to do this by enetering their property/building/custody ...its just another way to seperate you from your money again for something youve already purchased...
He hurt an officer's feelings by saying NO, so he received this retaliation
So you are guilty until and unless we say you are innocent and the charter rights are meaningless?!
The courts will mull the government here. They picked the wrong guy to mess with.
If you took off your glasses and grew a beard, you'd look like this lawyer guy.
@@cyberpunk9763 messing with a lay person, unless they are rich, is something the authorities can get away with. Screwing with a lawyer is another.
This happened to me to! They took my phone and started calling all my contacts not believing me on what I was doing in the U.S. I have never felt so invaded! Then on top of that they took my finger prints and my photo.
@@zakichoudhary507 it's like everything today, accept the terms & conditions or live in the dark ages!!
I can understand the fingerprints part at least but calling everyone in your contacts is pretty uncalled for
You’re referring to USCBP Officers NOT CBSA Officers. CBSA Officers would never fingerprint or photograph a Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident of Canada.
@@cpufreak101 Fingerprinting is invasive, also, if have no good reason!
Its unprofessional.
Hell yeah I would take legal action
Strip searches coming next - 2020
Xander Smith
And they will include children in strip searches, and searches will be recorded on video for security and training purposes.
But they will tell us It's for our safety!
Rather have them strip search me instead of going through my phone and laptop.
@@cgasucks yup 🙌
Well they bringing millions of Muslims and refugees without background checks paid by us.. so why check us
@@goldennightingale5791 says the person with a name shakur nguyen😳😳, sounds western name😅😅
Can these officers request cloud based storage passwords via your hardware?
No, only what is on your physical device. They have to put into airplane mode while conducting the search of the device.
@@Dmitrokras Thanks for the information
Garrett Yes they can. So, don’t make it available to them
Sundar Pichai Id If you have a MacBook Pro. iCloud drive is in the finder. There is no way to lock it down. So, anyone searching a Mac can view the cloud storage on the Mac.
The lawyer will just erase the hard disk from iCloud.com if he has a Mac
They were told by big brother who to search, US.
Marek Kolenda Obama isn't president anymore. Plus it's in Canada, where have you been😂💀
My security "code" is my fingerprint.
Which they can compel. Also most devices with fingerprint requirements (phones) require passwords to be set up as well
@Rata 4U border security can compel without a warrant. Wiping knowingly is a crime as well. Either encrypt your data within your device, wipe them yourselves before crossing borders or dont do shady stuff
In India, our lawyers would have simply beaten up the cops if they ever got so cocky.
@GEM Well it never hurts to give the cops a taste of their own medicine. People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of it's people.
@GEM Sounds like the people of India don't like the government violating their rights. Seems just to me!
@@limabravo8782 Well said.
That's personal property I wouldn't give them my passwords either.
One of many reasons to NOT travel to Canada 🇨🇦.
they should have to get a warrant and provide evidence to support their search, if the police do then so should they!!
There is no “Charters of Rights” for Citizens in Canada practically. It exists only in theory.
That is unlawful search and seizure, a warrant should be provided if they are going to demand access to his devices
Unlawful is unlawful only if it's unlawful ... if statute provides for the power to do so, they can do so. There are instances where a warrant is not required when doing a search.
Tea Hee This is an example of how we have silently allowed our rights and freedoms to be eroded however and the law should be changed
@@AdeptPaladin It's unfortunate that this is happening, but it is understandable if a lawyer needs to be searched (under reasonable circumstances) since the greater interest of safety is at stake. One of the rules of law is that no right is absolute - this goes for solicitor-client privilege, although it is near absolute. No litigation has occurred on this matter yet, but such a law that allows for search under reasonable circumstances (although quite possibly not the case in this instance) might be saved under Section 1 of the Charter.
If he's an attorney wouldn't they need an attorney present and a warrant to make sure that privilege was preserved?
I'm assuming the Border operates on the same laws as the RCMP.
It has been this way for many years.
Unfortunately, these cases are becoming all too frequent. Our devices carry so much information about ourselves, which are easily lockable with passwords and encryption. I can understand government worries because of terrorism, crime etc. But on the other hand, these are private devices. There needs to be a balance between what is okay and not.
they should not examine a citizens phone
when i crossed canadian boarder from australia they asked for my phone, i said i don't think so and it was left at that
Yeah, but you wasn't flagged to have those devices searched or confiscated.
Got lucky!
weren't coming from a drug or pedophile hotspot they weren't to concerned with you
Are you sure about that? We in Australia are a drug and peadophile hotspot.
Compared to areas like Thailand no Australia isn't as bad. If you look and act like a total creep you will likely be checked. If your answers set off something that worries the officer then you'll be checked. It's not an exact science but spending months in Columbia as a lawyer it starts to be suspicious. A fiscal question, or bloodshot eyes, or even a nervous twitch or laugh can get the ball rolling.
This is unacceptable, he should pursue legal action.
I hope he takes legal action. This is pathetic and why I don't fly.
Cominada . Seriously too much power for these government thugs.
Wow. That's absolutely insane. Just wow.
If you travel a lot and I mean a lot have a phone and laptop in a safety box ,lock box in the places you go and don’t carry anything on plane trips.
Or keep your files encrypted in a cloud and use clean laptop and mobile phone anywhere you go from a local office in country of your destination. I do understand the need for procedures due to risk of terrorism but still some professionals cannot give access to the content of their files to anyone because regulations of their professions do not allow such security bridge. It is true about lawyers, sworn translators, people who work with all kinds of sensitive and confidential data protected by legal regulations referring to third party rights, third party interest, patent protection etc. Safety procedures of immigration offices or airport security cannot just ignore such additonal legal restrictions with which travelling professionals have to comply.
Good for him. This is a guy I'd want as my attorney.
I really hope this issue will finally be tested in court, even in the Supreme Court if need be. Being asked to surrender passwords to personal devices feels like a fundamental breach of privacy, it's like being asked for password to email, or bank account. There are no compelling reasons to do that at border crossings.
This is about general education (for a democratic country). It is not meant for the Supreme Court.
Why the hell could they possibly need access to his laptop for?
Confidentiality is extremely important in a lawyer's or any other professionals career. It's his job to protect clients privacy.
Even if he represents columbian drug cartels
They'd have to pry it out of my cold dead hand
That is exactly the correct attitude, good on you man
Hope he *sues* them and wins. 👍
Stand up to the violation of our personal rights and freedoms.
HE'S A LAWYER!!! That alone makes it wrong for them to even ask! Fight this to the HIGHEST COURT!!!
no.
Any (international) lawyer who travels with sensitive client data on their devices, and doesn't encrypt it, is asking for troubles in certain countries.
As a tech geek since the early nineties, I am fully aware of how to subvert such overreach of authority. If a border officer asked for my $500 laptop, I'd happily hand it over to them, knowing full well that when they fire it up, they'll be presented with an empty Linux based operating system (Tails OS), completely void of anything of interest. And even if they found the USB stick I kept my important files on, it's heavily encrypted anyway, and backed up (and encrypted) elsewhere..
Can you teach me your ways? I have a windows 10 hp laptop
isnt that unconstitutional?
Lets be real, they just wanted to steal his laptop and phone.
Well, ive never been asked to show any cellphones when crossing Chinese boarder.
We are dealing with organized stalking groups who are given jobs in positions where they may have access to ppls personal info which is used for criminal purposes. I was a target of ID theft and have had to deal with hacked electronics and accts, intercepted phone calls, stolen utilities, and home break-ins, among other things.
I hope this lawyer finds a way to protect his privacy as it may lead to protection for everyone. It amazes me how ppl just seem to accept all the crime associated with the rapidly growing technology. If we have to spend all our time trying to untangle the messes perpetrated on us, how will we ever accomplish any productive work?
That's their main goal. To prevent you from being productive and from freeing yourself from that slavery. They don't sleep at night, shackling over the fact that a revolution may arise at any time.
Canada, what are you doing? Infringing on citizen's right to liberty is sort of our thing.
If you watch border security you would know they were checking if he had any contact with a drug related conatcs because he was comming from a drug source country and they wanted to make sure he was not smuggling drugs into Canada.
True, but how far can they go? Let them get a Warrant!!
@@lenitaa7938 Lmao, they glance at your pictures and contacts looking for signs of drug trafficking and child molestation. You know how many pedophiles have been caught this way? It's enough that a lawyer with his drawers in a twist that spent alot of time in a high drug exportation zone should not be your poster boy. You aren't technically back in canada at a port of entry think of it as being on the front step. Ports of entry and border crossings are set up under international agreements. Hence why you can have statesless people in them. It's only after you clear the border that you revert back to canada. Hence why the border security differs from the RCMP on jurisdictional bases and rules. A lawyer should damn well know this as the laws about inspections have been around for generations. He's either hiding something or trying to get his 15min of fame.
Damn you guys have no rights in Canada.
Hmm this is interesting. What happens to lawyer/client confidentiality in a case like this?
It is deemed secondary
"This could be you!" - CBC News
They took my knife that was shipped and complied with their own rules. They said they would mail me notices but that never happened. Enjoy that knife you "confiscated"
That's theft! They probably took it home!
You should have involved a lawyer! Get together with others it happened to, and do a Class-action suit!
Next time mail it to yourself.
Next time I travel I'll buy a pay as you go throw away phone!!!
Don't forget the laptop, and tablets too.
Since when was this news?
Micro SD cards are easily concealed.
@Rata 4U Wipe it with what? They seized both his phone and computer.
@@retnavybrat another device at home?
@@TheseEyesSeeDarknessClearly Perhaps, but it would seem risky to me only because by the time he made it home, someone at the airport might have cracked the passwords (depending on how high a priority was being placed on getting into his devices).
Rata 4U device needs an internet connection to receive instructions to wipe. Very simple to disrupt.
Sybrand Botes no it doesn’t iPhones have a setting that can wipe or lock your phone after a certain amount missed consecutive passcode attempts. Also when activating iCloud lock or remotely wiping an iPhone, it will work even if the phone is off. The instructions are simply queued until the phone is turned back on. He probably either locked/wiped it remotely with iCloud using another device or someone else’s device.
But boarder guards didn't even go to high school :/
yup welcome to the age of entrapment
Why would you illustrate a story about a lawyer and customs with footage showing an airport security check? Where's the connection?
Canadian border is awful. Every time I travel there it's a nightmare, they always screen me for secondary examination without reason, even though they have all my information and ETA.
I don't get why they are so afraid of people immigrating illegally from Europe, since we have a much better life standard here. I also don't get why invading the people's digital privacy like that, if someone has something actually compromising, they will just send it over the internet or other means and download the information once they were there.
Its a popular practice in the US as well. US Searches Of Cellphones, Laptops At Airports On The Rise, Lawsuit Claims
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jamaica-gleaner.com/article/world-news/20190501/us-searches-cellphones-laptops-airports-rise-lawsuit-claims.
Agree with you Sim. If there are something to hide, I would send it to my email by attachment and download it again after arrive the Canadian soil. So CBSA can not find anything if one wants to hide the the things in purpose. By the way CBSA is violating the privacy of the passenger. Where is the Human Rights as usually referred by Canada ? Canada, please don't mention Human Rights again until you change your practice.
Travis Miller not a requirement in the us, I been pulled for secondary search and all they wanted to do was to make sure my phone and laptop wasn’t a bomb so scanned it a couple times and pressed every button and handed it back to me..
@@andychang6823 Sometimes it seems they do that just to humiliate us. It's proven those practices do not improve security, it's just an annoyance that shoves on our face that we are not part of the noble class, hence why we are forced to pay taxes and bow to "law enforcers" even whey they do something questionable, because they have the power. 😭
@@Honeypot-x9s Really? So, they were willing for it to explode then and there?? Makes no sense!
Gestapo.
I travel with no gadgets i save everything on my google drive and use an old motorola C113 as my phone with with nothing inside
Kipeme Junior not even a battery?lol
"I'll give you the password, but don't blame me when the self-destruct mechanism burns your hand off."
Story is about CBSA.... shows CATSA security guards lmao.. great job CBC
Sue them. This lawyer is right.
Nick Wright who is a lawyer? Ace Attorney fans are laughing.
No way. It's a matter of principle. I would never hand over personal bellonging unless they want to press charges.
@@zakichoudhary507 I just wrote an email to the Minister of Public Safety. No, this garbage is not happening. I travel internationally and will make a gigantic scene if any guard tries to snoop into my personal space. I can understand if I am being charged but if not:#$^% off to any law enforcement officer.
Take it to the TOP (SCC) if you have to! Get some clarity on these laws!
ain't going to work. lots of red tapes. get ready
That's so wonderful.
How?! Everyone knows you gotta give your password to border officers if asked.
This video should be called why you should encrypt your electronic devices.
That’s under Canada’s law Well your coming in America! We do the same thing going Thur to Canada !
This is such a FF!
@ America does the same on entry.
DanSk451 no we don’t unless ur on a watch list lol! Most we do is require an X-ray and a maybe a physical fingering.. I was selected for secondary one day returning into America and my shits was dead and all they did was press every button to make sure wasn’t a bomb after it passed threw another scanner.. lady handed both my iPhone and laptop back to me and waved me on..
What's FF mean?
He got flagged for a reason... better safe than sorry.
violation of 4th amendment. EASY.HE NOW NEED TO FILE A CRIMINAL CHARGE OF THEFT, AND ALSO CHARGE THE,GOV. 100$HR, UNTIL YOUR PROPERTY IS RETURNED , FOR 4TH AMENDMENT VIOLATION..S'..............FYI
Lol Americans that think that Canada is the 51st state
Brandi Bohannon they kinda are? Canada is a sovereign country. Actually closer to Queen of England than America
Zaki Choudhary Lol you are delusional. Canada out performs USA on many fronts
Time to encrypt my phone.
Whenever I cross a border I always back up my iPad to the cloud, then wipe it to factory defaults before crossing, then after crossing I'll resync to the cloud to download everything. I'll only cross borders with completely empty/clean/wiped devices.
Have they ever asked where the information was
Sir Louis The Third why does that matter they’re not getting a password to information stored digitally on a cloud server.
They say to remove stuff from your computer before you cross the border but how do you remove your cloud data?!?
sure, hands over a burner flip phone for crossing borders
i always reset my android phone and formatted my laptop before the plane land on the runway.
i have been subject to one of those screening last year, all they see on my phone and laptop was fresh installed windows 10 and clean phone without a single picture or document.
Spies
back them up... store backups on cloud... wipe... hand tyrants blank devices
you know nothing about computers
Indeed but the problem is that in case of certain documents procedure doesn't foresee the possibility of digital processing outside off someone's company issued device. As for this case: there are other options to check if the device is not filled with explosives than going through it's content. As for this case I can feel the lawsuit coming since it's obvious conflict of two values protected by the law and in such case legal protection of clients should have superiority.
Clouds are not safe! Can be hacked into..
This is illegal right, he’s a lawyer. He can’t share his password.
I happy it happen to Canadan ..... what about people not from Canada .... what happen to them .... this is happening for a very long time
always encrypt entire hard drive partitions. your windows passwords are no good.
And what if they ask for the password today encrypted files?
Canada merely poodles 🐩 on Uncle Sam's leash.
ALX Armed Liberation Xecutive
Hate it or love it it but Australia, Canada, New Zealand, UK and US will always have a close working relationship
All about the Benjamin's
@@aab4219
Five Eyes, I'm aware of the intelligence connections.
All members of NATO which too are merely poodles 🐩 on Uncle Sam's leash.
NATO should have been dissolved when the Warsaw Pact was.
ALX Armed Liberation Xecutive
Lmao I’m originally from Poland. Poland wants nothing too do with Russia we hate them. Now we have the 8 largest economy in the EU
@@aab4219
What does Poland's GDP have to do with dissolving NATO?
US citizen here. Even in our crazy country, this is something that isn’t done.
What if he was a doctor with confidential patient files? How is that any different?
The attorney really had no choice in what he did. He had to protect privilege.
I know everyone says to clean your electronics before entering the country, but I doubt he knew there was a possibility that would happen.
Does Canada allow searches of private documents without probable cause?
Yes, US does, it, also!