The truth is, this cast is expendable to Joe. And is he wrong? He was able to replace Rory & Mal who built the platform with him. These cohosts are even more replaceable.
@@mical2greatyeah and honestly between him paying like 10+ and that condo pod set and him spending on this money on Gucci and jewelry I think his money is being stretched thin
@jcallwood25 true. I think it would've been dope to have a promo with the whole cast, but maybe patreon is treating it like Spotify treated R&M. Joe is "the draw" more than any of the cohosts. The star
Yes they are as they should be. If you work for someone, you're an expendable asset. It's how business works. If I was Joe, I would replace the entire cast..
I don't know why they surprised. Joe has already shown he is a one man show, they are just accessories to him. Didn't they see how he did Rory and Mal?
As a boss you are free to do as you please but remember if your employees are not please they will stop doing for you. This is the second time and people fought us up and down that Rory and Mal were wrong when he snaked them saying they were invaluable. If nobody else is on the billboard Parks, Ish, and Ice should be. They saved this second iteration starting with the ramp up of Patreon. Joe a snake.
Main Character Syndrome. He basically reiterated that they’re replaceable and it’s his show. I just don’t believe he could pull off a show by himself & his cohost deserve a bit more credit
Exactly. Like everyone is siding with him cause "it's his show" but so!? Say what you want about Ice and Ish but when all that mess went down they came through and showed up for him. This man already told us that he doesn't owe his friends respect so this is quite on brand for him.
I do not believe joe at all fighting for rory and mal. Theres so many stories of joe being shady. Only royce keeps giving joe support. Idk why either. Lol
whats ironic is that Joe himself needs cohosts to make an effective podcast but at the same time he doesnt need his cohosts he really just needs 2 or 3 people to challenge his takes. Essentially it really is the Joe Budden podcast. I think every cohost needs to understand that.
ice said he didnt care because he didnt build the pod now he hatin? corny points bro. none of them worked on the pod except for joe. not even parks. if anything he should put rory n mal up there as respect
I'm soooo glad they pressed him about this. Joe really be acting like he does this podcast by himself. He doesn't give his cohost ANY shine and he really don't give an EFF. Smh.
They all lucky to have jobs. Marc Lamont hill the only one that brings anything to the table. The rest, I'm shocked they get paid to talk for a living.
Exactly!!! Mel needs to know that she's an "EMPLOYEE" and Joe is her boss. Joe has been very lenient with some of his co-hosts disrespect towards him. Mel needs to chill and shut up when things of this comes up. Joe is the face and the brand of the podcast.
Yes it’s Joe’s show, we all get that… But just for the optics and the morale, a smart leader wouldn’t assert that outright. How do you expect people to perform under contract when you’re telling them you don’t think they add anything to the show that’s worth marketing? Smh
Who cares about the optics; it's called business! They are employees of Joe. The pod isn't named Joe Budden Podcast and friends.. If I was Joe, I would change around the cast. None of them bring real value to the Pod in my opinion
I know Rory & Mal cackling like "see yall thought we was trippin." Joe is selfish af not including the cast in the billboard pic smh. Like damn I would've been pissed. And the pic looks wack af without the main mics in it with him. I'm really upset for them.
So you all are saying that the billboard should've shown Joe, M Ford, Ish, Ice, Emmany, Parks, Flip, Jadakiss' son and Marc Lamont on a billboard that changes every 5 seconds and people are supposed to see what exactly?
The funny part is that Joe thinks he carries the pod but if Joe was on this pod alone, it wouldn't be as popular... People tune in to see Joe treat his cast like crap. The audience likes to see how Joe talks down and interrupts his co-hosts... He does it to Melissa, Flip, Ish, Emanny, and he did it to Rory and Mal. People tune in for the drama, not to actually hear what Joe has to say. Joe has to keep up the drama to keep people tuning in... IMO
I can see how R&M’s situation was grimy, but with this new group, it’s fair game. Joe has made it clear that he’s the boss and they’re employees. 🤷🏻♂️
Not gonna lie i feel like with this and the Spotify deal back in the day they ask if they wanted anyone else and he said no... but when he addressed it he said the opposite lol
Charla was right…once they called it The Joe Budden Podcast….it was a wrap…I mean he is the star of the Pod but they really can’t compalin cause it’s his pod really lol
I just canceled my Patreon subscription. I don't wanna give my hard earned money to someone like Joe Budden anymore. He talks crap about his fans and doesn't truly respect his cohosts. The Patreon is not even worth it. They don't talk about any of the topics that they say they will when they say "we'll leave that for Patreon". Joe is playing in our faces and I'm tired of it.
Like how you talk about Podsgiving for months and then don't even have it. Then he's always saying he'll plan a trip for the cast and NEVER does. Then just keeps adding a bunch of unnecessary ppl. The JBP with R&M was the best iteration and he knows it.
@@TheStop but if he had done it the Tuesday before Thanksgiving then it would have happened. Cause didn't we see Joe in the studio several times after that. It's his fault since he was late doing it.
The entitlement is crazy. When the NBA is advertising a game that don’t show the bench players they show the stars. Joes mid but he’s the star on the team.
Nah people acting like it’s joes show 😂😂😂 let’s not pretend he didn’t portray the show to have his name as the title but in reality they were a TEAM and were working together. He used them to come up. Lied and schemed his way to where he is.
lol my thing is that he could’ve chosen a better photo in terms of spacing. That empty space looks like it’s meant to be shared with others. He might as well have gotten a photo shoot with a black background or something. If Joe gonna be self-serving, at least don’t be tacky at it
Yeah it’s Joes show… we know that…. The marquee says it clearly… he could’ve put the whole cast up there on the billboard. Billboards can easily go up obviously and can easily come down when necessary. I get it tho. It’s his show.
I rarely side with Joe but I mean when the Lakers are advertising a game they’ll use Lebron, The Chiefs will use Mahomes etc. l just think he needs to learn how to communicate instead of leaving them in the dark because thats where the division really begins.
Yall calling it mistakes, but Joe making money off them, and I’m telling yall Joe can’t carry that pod by himself, or else when RnM left his ass would’ve not panicked and got ish and ice. Joe will crumbled due to his karma
I actually think some of this is COE, cause on one of the BTS Episodes Ian was Openly talking about how long the Billboard was actually gonna be up 💯 While the conversation made for GREAT content and Mel was Really on Fire in this episode, I do think they Purposely put a lot of Sauce on the situation for Entertainment Purposes Only 😅 LOL
Joe got Ish n Ice n thought dey would be progress as pidcasters but dey have not. Dey in da same position as wen dey started. I been stopped watchin da JBP. 2 much dikridin from Joe of anybody wit money n its jus not interesting anymore dead vibes
I think what Joe is doing is smart it's his show. He is the brand. Like with any show, new characters are developed. You can see the moves he's making by bringing Marc Lamont Hill, and Joe is thinking about bringing in another cohost. This cast is not going to last forever so it's best for him to keep finding new co-hosts every so many years.
I’m sorry but if I owned a car dealership and named it after me, then hired a bunch of salespeople to sell cars, why would I put them on the billboards advertising my dealership? He hired them. They are under a contract and can leave when they want as long as it’s fulfilled and he will still be there on the couch eventually with some new faces and get it popping again. He already showed he can do it.
They are employees. They shouldn’t feel any kind of way. If they do, they have fooled themselves into thinking they mean more to the podcast and Joe than they really do. Rory and Mal seemed to have more skin in the game, but this group is absolutely just hired help. They can be replaced tomorrow without missing a beat.
seemingly Ish is the only one that understands that Joe sees them all as expendable he intends to be the only constant. main difference between Joe and Joe is that Rogan seemingly dont keep things purposely ambiguous
No betrayal, IMO. R& M were fully committed as partners from the start-Rory even left his corporate job for the pod. They were the face along with JB. It made sense why they were part of the rollout. But once the money started rolling in, Joe rebranded it to the JBP, and we all saw how things unfolded. The new crew should see themselves as employees. Ice often says things like, “As long as the check clears, I’m good,” which sounds like someone just clocking in & out. R & M mentioned how staff vented to them about being underpaid & overworked. And they spoke about trying to come up with a solution to fix that. As employees, the current cast would neither have to deal with that, and some would not care (as long as their check clears), lol. Also, for many of them, the JBP might not be their main focus but rather a GREAT part-time job or a launching pad. Ish is an entrepreneur, Flip has his own network, Ice seems to be prepping a backup plan, Emanny is back making music, MLH has his own brand, etc.
I’m calling cap in yo raps *King Von voice* Name another podcast with 6 regular cast members, who appear EVERY episode, with only ONE person’s name in the title. Don’t worry. I’ll wait.
What’s the name of the Pod??? Correct me if I’m wrong but it’s Joe Budden right and he’s the creator right. The only I had ever heard of was Flip and Mel. I had never heard of Ish or Ice. Parks plays his position. It’s his show. Don’t like it then you’re free to leave. I’m pretty sure the line is crazy to be on that show. Joey is far from dumb! Lastly, Ish his manz in real life so I’m sure he not to pressed
Thwy the ones who try to act like the pod is just something they helping joe out with and that its not beneficial. Plenty of times they say how they dont rewatch or put effort into making it better. They always seemed ungrateful ofnthe opportunities. But mow thwy wanna be on a photo
Joe Budden VIOLATES Co-Host for WORKING better without him!
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Nah! shows were garbage when Joe was absent..Skipped a lot and didn’t finish one pod!
Joe is not making any of his previous mistakes from R&M days. He’s making it clear this is HIS show 😂
He did the same thing with Spotify when IN the R&M days lol. That’s just Joe 😂😂
@ they ended up being on an advert tho, and the pod cover was all
of them.
Typeshit 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Joe finally got what he wanted. It's Joe and his employees. Why are we surprised. We've seen the tea leaves 😂😂😂
The truth is, this cast is expendable to Joe. And is he wrong? He was able to replace Rory & Mal who built the platform with him. These cohosts are even more replaceable.
He had to pay damn near 4x what he did before for more people to do less numbers😂😂
@@mical2greatyeah and honestly between him paying like 10+ and that condo pod set and him spending on this money on Gucci and jewelry I think his money is being stretched thin
@mical2great lmaooo damn that's a fact. And tbh I enjoy Rory & Mals pod more these days
It doesn't matter. Cause as of RIGHT NOW, these are his damn cohosts. It's so effed up.
@jcallwood25 true. I think it would've been dope to have a promo with the whole cast, but maybe patreon is treating it like Spotify treated R&M. Joe is "the draw" more than any of the cohosts. The star
Mel hit the nail on the head with saying “I understand your reasoning…we are interchangeable “
Yes they are as they should be. If you work for someone, you're an expendable asset. It's how business works. If I was Joe, I would replace the entire cast..
She's even more so after bringing that up the way she did. Will she understand that reasoning 🤔
I don't know why they surprised. Joe has already shown he is a one man show, they are just accessories to him. Didn't they see how he did Rory and Mal?
As a boss you are free to do as you please but remember if your employees are not please they will stop doing for you. This is the second time and people fought us up and down that Rory and Mal were wrong when he snaked them saying they were invaluable. If nobody else is on the billboard Parks, Ish, and Ice should be. They saved this second iteration starting with the ramp up of Patreon. Joe a snake.
Exactly. Just imagine if Ice and Ish said no to doing the podcast. Joe and Parks alone would bomb.
Joe cares about Joe
Joe would promote merch that says this
Main Character Syndrome. He basically reiterated that they’re replaceable and it’s his show. I just don’t believe he could pull off a show by himself & his cohost deserve a bit more credit
Joe wants to be Stephen A om first take
Exactly. Like everyone is siding with him cause "it's his show" but so!? Say what you want about Ice and Ish but when all that mess went down they came through and showed up for him. This man already told us that he doesn't owe his friends respect so this is quite on brand for him.
He owns the show and they're employees. TBH, none of them bring true value to the show in my opinion.
I do not believe joe at all fighting for rory and mal. Theres so many stories of joe being shady. Only royce keeps giving joe support. Idk why either. Lol
AT ALL lmao
lol they slowly finding out rory & mal wasn't the crazy ones
They were the lazy ones
Who are Rory and Mal before Joe starts a podcast???
whats ironic is that Joe himself needs cohosts to make an effective podcast but at the same time he doesnt need his cohosts he really just needs 2 or 3 people to challenge his takes. Essentially it really is the Joe Budden podcast. I think every cohost needs to understand that.
ice said he didnt care because he didnt build the pod now he hatin? corny points bro. none of them worked on the pod except for joe. not even parks. if anything he should put rory n mal up there as respect
I'm soooo glad they pressed him about this. Joe really be acting like he does this podcast by himself. He doesn't give his cohost ANY shine and he really don't give an EFF. Smh.
They can't even take the A mic when he's gone but they want to be on a billboard 😂
@ 🤣🤣 stop changing the subject.
They all lucky to have jobs. Marc Lamont hill the only one that brings anything to the table. The rest, I'm shocked they get paid to talk for a living.
they don't give 100% effort for the pod cmon lmfao
Joe should be the lead in Horrible Bosses 3
It's Joe's show hence the name the Joe Budden podcast
Exactly!!! Mel needs to know that she's an "EMPLOYEE" and Joe is her boss. Joe has been very lenient with some of his co-hosts disrespect towards him. Mel needs to chill and shut up when things of this comes up. Joe is the face and the brand of the podcast.
@@gunnyo50💯
Weird logic
Yes it’s Joe’s show, we all get that… But just for the optics and the morale, a smart leader wouldn’t assert that outright. How do you expect people to perform under contract when you’re telling them you don’t think they add anything to the show that’s worth marketing? Smh
And these are his so called "friends". Nasty work. Couldn't be me.
Who cares about the optics; it's called business! They are employees of Joe. The pod isn't named Joe Budden Podcast and friends..
If I was Joe, I would change around the cast. None of them bring real value to the Pod in my opinion
@@jcallwood25so called friends?? They saved his bum ass.
@Rf201njfam you missed my point. He doesn't treat them like friends. In another comment I said he saved them also.
E Rab.... really.
E RabMuzzik lmaoo
If you believe Joe was fighting for Rory and mal you gotta be slow
super slow lol you know he was happy when spotify pushed back
I know Rory & Mal cackling like "see yall thought we was trippin." Joe is selfish af not including the cast in the billboard pic smh. Like damn I would've been pissed. And the pic looks wack af without the main mics in it with him. I'm really upset for them.
Joe definitely loves to gaslight. He purposefully leaves his co host out of things.
Joe will always and forever be for himself...
Joe was on a photo shoot for the billboard when he missed the pod those days 😂
So you all are saying that the billboard should've shown Joe, M Ford, Ish, Ice, Emmany, Parks, Flip, Jadakiss' son and Marc Lamont on a billboard that changes every 5 seconds and people are supposed to see what exactly?
And Melissa's dog 😂
Stop the sarcasm. The bionic 6 should've been up there.
The funny part is that Joe thinks he carries the pod but if Joe was on this pod alone, it wouldn't be as popular...
People tune in to see Joe treat his cast like crap. The audience likes to see how Joe talks down and interrupts his co-hosts... He does it to Melissa, Flip, Ish, Emanny, and he did it to Rory and Mal. People tune in for the drama, not to actually hear what Joe has to say. Joe has to keep up the drama to keep people tuning in... IMO
That’s the nicest thing you’ve ever said about Ice 🤣😂
That's foul 😂😂😂
That’s how certain people move , I never respected it
Joe wild af for dat 🤣
I can see how R&M’s situation was grimy, but with this new group, it’s fair game. Joe has made it clear that he’s the boss and they’re employees. 🤷🏻♂️
The billboard is so disrespectful you just can’t help but laugh 😂😂
lol 😂 exactly
He doing to them what he did to Rory & Mal. Grade A Narcissist.
Does Joe really not give them money for Prize Picks and make them do all that yelling? If so Joe is crazy as Hell 😂😂
LOL😂
Not gonna lie i feel like with this and the Spotify deal back in the day they ask if they wanted anyone else and he said no... but when he addressed it he said the opposite lol
💯
That’s nasty work
We all knew what they ddnt. This is his rollout for 2025.
It even look wrong 😂😂😂
Looks like he airbrushed them out😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well, it does say "Joe Budden Podcast". But bro violated their emotions for sure. 😂😂😂
Danny! Where do you get that 80s back ground music? 🎶 ❤🙏🏾
Ppl still watch this podcast 😂 the JBP fell off awhile ago
Charla was right…once they called it The Joe Budden Podcast….it was a wrap…I mean he is the star of the Pod but they really can’t compalin cause it’s his pod really lol
All them people can’t fit on that billboard anyway
As for Melyssa Ford. If you can only pod "well" if you're off the goose then you're not good at podcasting and you should find something else to do.
I just canceled my Patreon subscription. I don't wanna give my hard earned money to someone like Joe Budden anymore. He talks crap about his fans and doesn't truly respect his cohosts. The Patreon is not even worth it. They don't talk about any of the topics that they say they will when they say "we'll leave that for Patreon". Joe is playing in our faces and I'm tired of it.
Like how you talk about Podsgiving for months and then don't even have it. Then he's always saying he'll plan a trip for the cast and NEVER does. Then just keeps adding a bunch of unnecessary ppl. The JBP with R&M was the best iteration and he knows it.
@@jcallwood25 it was suppose to happen but then joe got kicked out his studio
@@TheStop but if he had done it the Tuesday before Thanksgiving then it would have happened. Cause didn't we see Joe in the studio several times after that. It's his fault since he was late doing it.
The entitlement is crazy. When the NBA is advertising a game that don’t show the bench players they show the stars. Joes mid but he’s the star on the team.
🫡fr
okay go ahead and try to listen to a podcast with only joe talking lmao tell me how that goes. its not BENCH players. theres a starting 5
Nah people acting like it’s joes show 😂😂😂 let’s not pretend he didn’t portray the show to have his name as the title but in reality they were a TEAM and were working together. He used them to come up. Lied and schemed his way to where he is.
we all knew/kno Mel only has good pods when she drinks
lol my thing is that he could’ve chosen a better photo in terms of spacing. That empty space looks like it’s meant to be shared with others. He might as well have gotten a photo shoot with a black background or something. If Joe gonna be self-serving, at least don’t be tacky at it
Co-host fault. R&M was the template for how Joe gives it up. With that said it’s kinda funny to see them complain about the same shit R&M stood for.
Bro flip not being there allowed Mel to actually relax and be herself and talk. No over talking no loudness great episode
The other bill boards have the cast on it.
Maaan yall turned a funny ass segment into something ugly 😂... That was a great pod day 👏🏾
You mean the Joe Budden podcast has Joe budden on the picture? Who would have thunk it?
Joe be cappin hard body
It's only Joe Rogan.That's why its called Joe Rogan bad comparison
*Jamie Vernon
Yeah it’s Joes show… we know that…. The marquee says it clearly… he could’ve put the whole cast up there on the billboard. Billboards can easily go up obviously and can easily come down when necessary. I get it tho. It’s his show.
I rarely side with Joe but I mean when the Lakers are advertising a game they’ll use Lebron, The Chiefs will use Mahomes etc. l just think he needs to learn how to communicate instead of leaving them in the dark because thats where the division really begins.
Yall calling it mistakes, but Joe making money off them, and I’m telling yall Joe can’t carry that pod by himself, or else when RnM left his ass would’ve not panicked and got ish and ice. Joe will crumbled due to his karma
Its called the Joe Budden podcast but Joe can't pod by himself because he's really not that entertaining 🤷♂️
Joe Rogan doesn’t have cohost that’s totally different from the JBP, terrible comparison buddy
I actually think some of this is COE, cause on one of the BTS Episodes Ian was Openly talking about how long the Billboard was actually gonna be up 💯 While the conversation made for GREAT content and Mel was Really on Fire in this episode, I do think they Purposely put a lot of Sauce on the situation for Entertainment Purposes Only 😅 LOL
Na Danny we good without Flip. 😆
Joe got Ish n Ice n thought dey would be progress as pidcasters but dey have not. Dey in da same position as wen dey started. I been stopped watchin da JBP. 2 much dikridin from Joe of anybody wit money n its jus not interesting anymore dead vibes
not knowing who Arab is.. is crazy work lmao
Joe cropped them out like Diddy did French Montana 🤣
Yo Danny give up the kneepads
Intro song is smooth, what is the name of it?
I think what Joe is doing is smart it's his show. He is the brand. Like with any show, new characters are developed. You can see the moves he's making by bringing Marc Lamont Hill, and Joe is thinking about bringing in another cohost. This cast is not going to last forever so it's best for him to keep finding new co-hosts every so many years.
I’m sorry but if I owned a car dealership and named it after me, then hired a bunch of salespeople to sell cars, why would I put them on the billboards advertising my dealership? He hired them. They are under a contract and can leave when they want as long as it’s fulfilled and he will still be there on the couch eventually with some new faces and get it popping again. He already showed he can do it.
This was a great pod! I laughed so hard! lol 😂it was that serious they had fun
It is smart for Joe to do that because what are we doing now,, talking about him and the pod , it’s called content
Do they get paid for patreon ? 🤔
Highly doubt it😂.
Joe even said it. Wouldn't make sense to have 9 members on a billboard. Too much to take in walking or riding by.
Mel was on fire this episode
I don’t see other people on the Joe Rogan podcast. This makes sense to me
Joe been podding since 2015. It’s literally his show.
They are employees. They shouldn’t feel any kind of way. If they do, they have fooled themselves into thinking they mean more to the podcast and Joe than they really do.
Rory and Mal seemed to have more skin in the game, but this group is absolutely just hired help. They can be replaced tomorrow without missing a beat.
seemingly Ish is the only one that understands that Joe sees them all as expendable he intends to be the only constant. main difference between Joe and Joe is that Rogan seemingly dont keep things purposely ambiguous
keep goin danny
Cory and Mal were his employees they thought they were equal footing
Tbh the billboard looks good w just one person not too many people
I think ish or parks could have been on there
At the end of the day! they are employees! with all the benefits that come along with that!
Ain't joe budden supposed to be a millionaire why so much drama? Lol 😂
No betrayal, IMO. R& M were fully committed as partners from the start-Rory even left his corporate job for the pod. They were the face along with JB. It made sense why they were part of the rollout. But once the money started rolling in, Joe rebranded it to the JBP, and we all saw how things unfolded.
The new crew should see themselves as employees. Ice often says things like, “As long as the check clears, I’m good,” which sounds like someone just clocking in & out. R & M mentioned how staff vented to them about being underpaid & overworked. And they spoke about trying to come up with a solution to fix that. As employees, the current cast would neither have to deal with that, and some would not care (as long as their check clears), lol.
Also, for many of them, the JBP might not be their main focus but rather a GREAT part-time job or a launching pad. Ish is an entrepreneur, Flip has his own network, Ice seems to be prepping a backup plan, Emanny is back making music, MLH has his own brand, etc.
Didn’t realize this dude wasn’t black the only reason I watched him was cause I thought he was a black dude
They know they expendable.
Does Joe Rogan big up his staff in marketing or……. It’s it just Joe Rogan….? I’ll wait
I’m calling cap in yo raps *King Von voice*
Name another podcast with 6 regular cast members, who appear EVERY episode, with only ONE person’s name in the title.
Don’t worry. I’ll wait.
Content.Over.Everything!
I mean it is called the Joe Budden podcast lol
What’s the name of the Pod??? Correct me if I’m wrong but it’s Joe Budden right and he’s the creator right. The only I had ever heard of was Flip and Mel. I had never heard of Ish or Ice. Parks plays his position. It’s his show. Don’t like it then you’re free to leave. I’m pretty sure the line is crazy to be on that show. Joey is far from dumb! Lastly, Ish his manz in real life so I’m sure he not to pressed
This pod is operating out of apartment 4B how big can the show really be. The paperwork been funny with apartment 4B joe
It’s literally called the joe budden podcast 😂 what they expect
It's business bro...
I’m sorry but I would listen to Joe with anyone they can all be replaced the show would definitely go on facts are facts
Are you related or inspired by Akademiks in any way? Y'all seem so similar.
Y’all don’t get that stay in yall place
Shoutout illanoize radio
Thwy the ones who try to act like the pod is just something they helping joe out with and that its not beneficial. Plenty of times they say how they dont rewatch or put effort into making it better. They always seemed ungrateful ofnthe opportunities. But mow thwy wanna be on a photo
All of you are buying.