The scene where Abby is literally crying and yelling at Maddie for "betraying her" by listening to her mother was one of the worst scenes on the show. I physically can't watch it
They mentioned it the same episode but the all moms all thought it was a happy moment and that Abby cried because Maddie and her fixed everything and had a nice moment. They had no idea what really happened until later. I can't imagine how awful Melissa felt after seeing that. Christi said it was completely psychotic and Kelly seemed sort of lost for words
@urfavsh1teditorwell christi and Kelly are full of bs because they where complaining how it had been a nice moment for Maddie when it wasn’t but they didn’t like how she was favored or treated nicely
@@Channel24377 Christi and Kelly didn't hear that conversation...until the watched it for Back To The Barre...and we're sickened by it. Kelly has known Maddie since she was about 2.
All the women in Maddie’s life were obsessed with her. They wanted to live through/be that little girl. She was used as a portal to their desires and manipulated to think they were her own. And as a woman she is waking up. Take your life back girl! One day she will be an amazing mom, no rush. 🩷
the only people who actually cared about her at the beginning were christi and kelly. the hylands and zieglers were VERY VERY close. christi defended maddie against abby turning her friends against her, even though it backfired because abby is abby. they probably told melissa this too, and she probably didn't really care. i think kelly was the only one to truly care an extreme amount for maddie, and i think that's why she got so mad when inequities were shown. because she could see what it was going to do to her in the future.
@murmirr completely agree. Melissa loved her kids but i feel like she cared more about getting them famous and ahead and not their wellbeing because she thought if they were famous they'd be fine. That's just not how things work
@murmirr I think Melissa was in a very difficult place, with her divorce and Abby exploited that, so that Melissa owed her loyalty. Abby is very Trump like..in her narcissism..Then the TV show made it worse, Melissa tried to get out but was threatened by Lifetime, that they would own her kids and bankrupt her. She was especially unhappy that they finished too late...smetimes after mdnight... They threatened Kelly the same way. Melissa played the game to protect Maddie, while Abby bullied Kenzie. But Melissa got them out be working secretly for two years..to avoid the situation the Kelly and Christi. And to stop Abby from managing her children. I think the turning point was when Melissa married Greg, Abby was very nasty about it as Melissa set up a happy homelife. Abby never understood the importance of those friendships between the Zieglers and Hylands. The damage she did to everyone when she set up Maddie and Kalani against Paige and Chloe. Maddie lost her best friends that day. And Chloe's trust.
@@urfavsh1teditor Melissa would have done anything and betrayed anyone to get Maddie famous, Kenzie was an afterthought for her. Her behaviour on DM was disgusting and she acts now like she's a saint who was always appalled by what Abby would do. She was complicit with Abby's abuse of her own daughters, and of all of the other girls as well.
@katyaanimefreak umm she doesn't act like a saint, she's said that she would do it all very differently and admitted she's said stupid things and made mistakes.
Abby describing Maddie's relationship with the dance studio as her "home away from home" from the messy divorce that her parents were going through felt so strange. It was like she was admitting that she took advantage of Maddie's dependence on her to benefit herself and make Maddie feel indebted to her. So weird.
The adult women in Maddies life failed her and was weirdly obsessed with her, I know she will grow from being a people pleaser and not having to be a perfectionist all the time
I never thought Maddie as a brat you can tell she was a kind little girl who loved dance , Abby killed those kids passion for dance. Alot of parents push their children too far and they end up hating the sport
I’m not going to lie but I used to pass unfair judgment on to poor Maddie and say all of these mean things about her through social media but after viewing this video I learned to not be so quick to judge others unfairly without knowing the full story.
@@natvan29 thats acc so true. There are so many clips of her either being mean or her mother having to pathetically back her up because she said or did something mean
Yeah Jessica. Considering you said it past tense, she was still a child. You’re a horrible person for writing mean comments about a literal child at the time.
Abby feeling "betrayed" let's me know she didn't truly care for Maddie or those girls for that matter(even though we already knew that) she just favored Maddie cause it seems like if she pushed for one person to be the favorite she'd gain something from it. Those girls were literally modern day gladiators being used and abused for the sake of fame and a dream
@@CremeBrulee-qm8wi Abby had a favourite in every age group, she thought having one up on a pedestal with the others trying to reach it was a good way to teach. That was the person who got the lyrical solos each competition season cause pigeonholing each girl into a dance style was something else that she also did with each age group.
@@CremeBrulee-qm8wiShe even said to Christie in one episode “Who wouldn’t want to be like Maddie? I want to be like Maddie!” A child needs to immediately be removed from the company of an adult that speaks that way about them. It was beyond creepy and obsessive.
At the time they show came out I was too young to watch it I understand. Today I am a mother, and I am in tears at seeing that baby ran off the stage and a panic attack. I can’t imagine myself doing that to my baby no matter what competition they are in. That child needed to be grabbed and hugged and told she was everything. I don’t have the competitive spirit, so maybe I will feel different with my child is actually putting their all into something. But that was unacceptable. That was a baby. A child who needed their parent to be there and tell them they won the greatest gift of all just by being born, love. Unequivocal, unconditional, impartial love.
It broke my heart because I’ve had panic attacks like that. You can just hear in her voice the way she’s saying “no”. I picked it up immediately because it happens to me, and as a grown woman it’s terrifying. I can’t even imagine how much stress that poor baby was under
Bro. Maddie is a millionaire. And has always had a cushy life. At her worst, she was still an upper middle class white girl on a tv show. You people cry for the weirdest things. Make perpetual victims out of people who have everything in life. She was fine. And is fine. I promise. Kid got upset she messed up her routine. Bet youndidnt cry for little Nia who EXPERIENCED RACISM every week on that show. Oh what a world.
Fun Fact: Abby Lee Miller was an inmate at the Federal Prison in Victorville, that my Parents worked at. My Mom said “Either her attitude on the show, was for the show, or she’s too afraid of getting the shit kicked outta her by the other female inmates to act how she did on that show. She’s as meek and mellow as a baby bird here!” 😂😂😂
From what previous students of hers have said I would go with she was afraid. Seems like the Abby we saw in season 1 and kind of in 2 is the real Abby, at least at the dance studio anyway. As the seasons went on it seemed like being like that was the way that Abby coped with stress (and some was for TV)
my dad worked there too!! we moved because he fell chasing an inmate. he would tell me stories about Tupacs dad calling him a sellout for working there and a "bowtie bitch". we moved before she went in but thats insane
I went through a similar situation with a female boss of mine. I was 20 when I started working for her & she was in her 50’s. She was very obsessed with me & had similar mannerisms to Abby. She always put me on a pedestal in front of my coworkers, said she saw me as a daughter, always trying to have me hang out with her & her family outside of work, was going through my desk, listening in on my phone conversations with customers, trying to login to my work email to see if I badmouthing her.. it was exhausting. She was very emotionally manipulative & she almost crashed out when I finally woke up & found another job. I was constantly under stress despite me being the favorite & it took a mental toll on me. My heart breaks for Maddie.
@@jessicamcdaniels2337 I’m sorry you’re going through this 😕 Try to get out as soon as you can. I lowkey regret not leaving the job earlier but at times I felt stuck. My mental health is doing so much better now that I have left & I do not keep in contact with my ex boss.
@@jessicamcdaniels2337because you've found yourself taking on the role of "golden child" by a narcissist. It's a form of splitting. I'm assuming someone there had been made the scapegoat
@@clairewillow6475 Yup, you hit the nail on the head. The last girl in this role was fired. Only difference is, she was new to the company and was let go during her probationary period. I've been with the company for almost 3 years. I'm already past my probationary period and I transferred into this role. I'm getting married next year. So the plan is to save as much as I can and survive 8 months to 1 year. The pay is very good. I'm almost making 6 figures and im not even 30 years old yet lol. Trying to push through...Oh, forgot to add that, I've only been in this new role for just shy of 3 months. Since the other girl was pushed out and I was accepted in, there's a new scapegoat. Another girl around the same age as me.
Everyone always goes hard at Abby which is rightfully deserved but I also blame every mom on that show, the producers, and the viewers who tuned in week after week to watch the show. Everyone failed those girls.
Right? Never saw the appeal of tuning in to watch children crying and being yelled that. I could just get that at home. Reality tv really normalized exploitation, but children should have been off limits.
i was a kid who also had to cater to the emotional needs of and walk on eggshells around explosive adults. i cannot imagine the additional trauma and stress of going through all of this on television for the world to see. it really twists your mind and puts so much stress onto you already, and thats without the “performance” aspect. this poor girl was manipulated and mentally tortured. abby purposefully did things to create resentment and tension between her and the other girls. i hope she’s finally free and taking time to heal and evaluating what shes really truly passionate about.
It really is. Then when you fail all the lights, cameras and action disappears. Everyone is disappointed even you. Lets just say...its a hard fall from grace.
@ yup. Michael Jackson as an example. He said he was his father’s golden child since music came naturally to him while his brothers had to work to joes satisfaction and always compared them to him. He felt really bad as well. It makes me understand he braces such a perfectionist 🥲🥺
maddie running off and having a panic attack is so terrifying, she was terrified she would be talked down to so horribly because she saw how abby treated her team mates when they also forgot and ran off
I used to watched this show all the time. Maddie was always the favourite and had the best dance routines and costumes. Also, her mother Melissa was also kissing up to Abby to get more dance routines and opportunities. The other girls were treated like an afterthought, and if the mums questioned Abby their children will suffer.
I legit feel bad for Maddie. I can truly understand her when she says she doesn't want to dance anymore. I went through a similar upbringing except in singing and acting. These adults living vicariously through you all because of who your dad is, and how talented you are, and the resources you have. Its exhausting trying to keep up with everyone's perfect image of you. When I finally graduated from highschool I went off to be a regular college girl. I stopped performing all together and everyone was blown away by that. Then I failed college and everyone shook their heads. In fact everything failed after that. So I isolated myself for most of my 20s . Even now in my 30s when I go home the only thing people ask me about is when,where, what, how, and why am I not this and that. Even my own mom brings it up and talks around the fact that she is so disappointed that I didn't go on to be famous. People just act like i just gave up. They have no idea how exhausting my preteen to teenage years were. When youre the best its very highlighted and expectations are set so high for you. I didnt have an abby lee miller in my life but i had a whole community of people who would manipulate me into wanting to do these things. Its one thing to be talented but to have a family name to live up to in addition to that was hard. Once I realized that my entire life was legit all about production, shows, rehearsals....I tried a break. Good thing for Maddie she got out of the business before crashing and burning. Because all that media, all that adoration, all the friends, all the lights, cameras, action goes out the window when they feel like you failed them.
Your enough already the fact they can’t see your a whole human being and just want to brag of your fame shows they superficial and not loving caring people they will never be happy without fame and money but you will find love and happiness by being yourself something they can never have.
Omg please do videos for every girl!!! I would love little deep dives of each of their stories past and current from your point of view. Once again you made a banger. Love from Dallas ❤❤❤
I am disgusted about how they sold these girls for a show and exposed every personal thing they had especially their bodies. I did ballet for years and they never asked us to wear a top with the tutu, not even in closed essays. You can use a full body. It is more disgusting if you think they were little girls and they were almost naked on TV and who knows who watched this show.
thank you, I thought I was the only one to think that! I remember the first time I saw a Maddie's performance was in 2015, I was 11 and even though I don't know much about ballet I wondered if dancers, especially underage dancers, were really required to wear such skimpy outfits until I saw other performances by dancers who danced in costumes much more appropriate for girls as young as Maddie was at the time.
I remember when this show first came on, I used to wanna be on shows like this . I’m glad I didn’t , we have no idea what these dancers go through behind the scenes .😢🤦🏽♀️
Sadly and weirdly enough I think she will always be obsessed with her. And low-key wishing she would reach out. Even tho, she has said prior that the only way she would ever be in contact with her again is if Maddie apologizes first to her??!? Because they left the show in such a sneaky way and apparently Melissa helped Abby out with smuggling that Australian money. How does that have anything to do with Maddie and why would SHE be the one that has to apologize for it. What in the hell?!
Even though I enjoyed this show when it premiered, I felt sorry for the girls 😢. Abby Lee put too much pressure on Maddie and the other girls which I felt was so unfair. TBH Nia was my favorite. ❤
Abby Miller was enraptured with Maddie. Abby was crazy making and when Maddie had enough opportunities she was able to escape Lifetime . She went directly to rolling out from under Sia . Maybe that's her thing . As a young adult she has gotten the reputation in Hollywood as a small bit of Box Office Poison . Her first movie, The Book of Henry was nominated for a Razzy as Worst Film of the Year. Her second film, Music was a thorough embarrassment which actually presented some dangers for non verbal autistic people. Her voice over work was MEH . Her last movie, West Side Story, an iconic film and Broadway show, redone by fabulous director Steven Spielberg, Maddie actually WON the Razzy as Worst Supporting Actress of the Year . Her early promise has not materialized . Abby put constant pressure upon all the girls, especially Maddie . There was some cruelty in it . Abby frequently told Maddie that she would have a career and wouldn't see or be near her team mates, because she'd get big and leave them all behind . Abby never thought that SHE would be the one left behind . She seems healthy and happy now and I hope that she is . She was definitely an exploited child .
Parents are going to an ugly divorce. It was not a safe haven. It was another abuse situation except now she was surrounded by her peers when dance moms was allowed to continue on as long as he did when there was obvious abuse going on that was my hope for the American dream died. Abby and her minions should have been stripped of their ability to work with children.
Don't hate me I'm a Black woman I blame Nia"s mom for pushing Nia to dance when clearly she did not have the talent she should have pushed her vocal talent .
She did have the talent Nia suffered from a condition which to the pint she couldn’t really walk nor dance holly clear as day stated that Nia wanted to dance and she dose have the talent to dance she clearly got better as she got older but I will say this she should gotten pushed more vocally don’t try to make negative comment then try to makes something a little positive I really want to see you do over 400 dances on national television.
@Darealestmera I have been in music for 50 years I have also been around dancers I understand about Nia's condition but when I heard her when she sang I detected real talent she would not have been subjected to being the weakest dancer almost every time I'm sure this affected her self esteem when it was totally unessesary she did not possess a ballerinas body form at all!
Jordan and Abby made a video literally titled “The Truth about MADDIE ZIEGLER” how are you gonna tak about her “truth” without her.. we will NEVER get the truth till maddie feels comfortable to share her side.
Abbys reaction to Maddie not wantin to tall to her reminds me of those parents who get cut off. they refuse to see how theyve hurt the ppl they "love" and loved them. some accept it and go "oh well theyve always been like this" or "it doesnt make sense!" or even dont accept it and continue to try keepin comtact w the person they hurt. its sad to kno Maddie was used as a child and how that affected her
Great video. I believe someone should do an interview with Scott Shatsky, the man behind the curtain that made all of the drama happen. Abby was a pawn just like everyone else. Keep in your mind that she wasn’t to even be on the tv show!
Here's the thing, in order for Maddie to be the best, it is put down all the other girls, and Melissa was great with it. There was a real dancer who said she's not taught properly, all these "people" harassed her out of UA-cam. The show was so gross I stopped watching only when Abby and Kelly got into a fight. I thought lifetimes was about feminist, no it's about was abusive.
*It's happened to me also. My Pre-K teacher favored me. And I've had teachers put my desk literally next to theirs. And it started drama and jealousy.*
I’ve been in the Dance for longer than Abby Miller. I’m also second generation dancer, dance teacher, dance to your honor and dedicated for dance competitions. I met Abby Miller very very long time ago in New York. I was in a national Dance convention and competition. She was literally screaming at very young children and threatening them and telling them that they better win because her reputation is on the line. My students came all the way to New York from LA and we’re very frightened by her. In fact, my students and their mothers insisted we move our group to another side of the dressing room so we wouldn’t have to witness her verbal and mental abuse to her students. Your comment about her loving her students is ignorant. She only loves herself in her reputation. Her mother was an incredible woman and teacher. And her mother never yelled at her students or made them feel bad. Abby Miller is demeaning, abusive, and quite scary to young children. I’ve witnessed this every day for a full week. Dance teachers who act like this give the rest of us a bad reputation. And they’re living their life through their students. I believe Miller was never been one of the professional dancer. And unfortunately, there’s quite a few in our country like that. They’re incredible amount of dance teachers and directors of studios are teaching incredible technique, and choreography and actually really care about their students. Abby is not one of them. Get your facts straight before you make a comment. Thank you.
I haven’t even watched the vid yet, but I just saw the title and thumbnail and busted out laughing 😂😭😂 it’s sad and weird and even a little bit creepy but for some reason theres some friggin ironic humor to it all
This is really good , Clarissa !!! Thanks !! All so true !! I am so glad that Maddie is out of that toxic environment ( her own words !) She's happier now , that's what matters !!! I always thought that Chloe was a much better dancer ! (my opinion) But , i loved all the girls !!! I never did like Abby !! She's egotistical and narcissistic!! Still is !! She wonders why Maddie doesn't speak to her anymore !! ( Hello , Abby you also abused Maddie , big time !!!) 👯👯♀️👯
I think that Abby did something and Maddie told her mother but her mother didn't have proof of what Maddie was saying, but her mother had proof of abby's money situation and I do believe that her mother went to the authorities and reported that as justice, for what maddie told her mother
this is just so, so, SO SICK. ( warning: a long comment) Ok in general all the girls from dance moms were horribly abused and exploited, specially chloe, who admitted she had to get therapy to regain her shattered confidence :( and Nia, Brooke, Paige, Kenzie etc were all treated horribly too. but Maddie, yes she was the favourite, had been through a lot of mental trauma too, she was pressured and forced by abby, her mother, witnessing her parents divorce, being manipulated and put up against her friends and whatnot, the producers made her look like a brat but shes NOT. shes a sweet and kind girl, she is literally so supportive to her sister and her friends during the dance moms series too if you see carefully, and today too shes a grown woman who is well mannered, classy and sweetest of all time i swear, okay i read some comments hearing she snuggled with grown women etc and idk if its true but thats rlly bad and concerning and abby feeling betrayed, like what? she legit ruined her life! i swear all women were so obsessed with maddie being so good at dance, even some of the moms too, at times if u notice...poor girl, the show was a hit due to the drama but it effected a huge part on her mental health inclusing the other girls, i hope maddie is now happy, regained her life back and live a happier life now, proud of her to cut connections with abby, tht woman ruined her life.
wtf how is taking her out of school best for her, she was the favorite because her mom actually was the best mom and decided dancing was more important than her education. Even if she said oh Maddie wanted to do that, yeah if you asked any fucking 7 year old if they wanted to leave school to dance they would say yes
Say what you have to about Abby, but the mom has everything to do with it. Maddie needed guidance & provision from her mom. Abby was a dance teacher who worked with what was given to her, her mom in the other hand, allowed her daughter to be in that environment.
Did this reporter really say not many people would say no to being on a hit lifetime show? If it involved people yelling & making my daughter cry I WOULD ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ON THAT SHOW. U must not have kids.
I think Abby did alot wrong definitely. However, I think she 😢gets bad rap takng all of the blame. These moms were responsible for these girls at the end of the day. They also had alot of bad behavior. Maybe children shouldnt be allowed to do these things it doesnt seem to ever work out very well. I love all of these girls and I feel like I knew them and watched them grow up. The talent of all these girls was amazing and I never forget that as I still look back on their performances today. It never gets old seeing their solos and group dances. What a great group of young ladies.
All those parents are so wrong for having their kids on that show. Getting routinely verbally abused by that obnoxious Miller woman, constantly compared to each other and having their faces plastered on TV before they were old enough to make that kind of decision. They actively chose to allow their children to suffer for their 15 seconds of fame. Gross.
abby is mad her stars make more money than she ever did. she really gives life to that nasty phrase those who cant, teach. which sucks because people shouldn't have real life examples to back something that rude to say up. 😂
Only for Maddie to team up with Sia, who is more obsessed with her. I also I don’t think Abby was “obsessed” with Maddie. Abby trained her since Maddie was 2 years old so of course there is going to be a connection there and Maddie made Abby’s studio look really good. Unlike Sia we started out as a fan of the show and now pays for 24hr security for Maddie….which is weird because no hate to Maddie but she doesn’t need 24hr security she’s really not that famous. I think Sia did that so she would know where Maddie is all the time which is very bizarre.
My take is that Abby had a favourite with each age group and with theirs it was Maddie (at the same age Brooke was the favourite), the things about pitting them against each other etc was something that Abby already did too. She seemed to be obsessed in that regard, but it is more like when someone is the teacher's pet, but agree that the way that Sia is/was obsessed with her is more problematic.
She definitely needed 24 hr security. You don’t know this but there once was a man that was hanging around the ALDC studio to watch the girls. They were little girls!!! Of course they needed security!!!
@@branthlysauveur359 Maddie is 22 years old now. She doesn’t need 24 hour security. And if Sia wasn’t paying for it, she wouldn’t have 24 hour security because it’s not needed. Also none of the other girls have 24 hour security and they seem to be pretty safe….I mean nothing has happened to any of them that we know of. Again I think Sia providing 24 hour security to Maddie is more of a control thing rather than an actual security concern.
Abby definitely was obsessed with maddie,just like how she was obsessed with Brooke and was her favorite now she moved on from her. Abby wanted Maddie to be the best and always win,she wanted the girls to go up against her and she knew she was gonna win.
Maddie WAS the best dancer. Thats why she got the solos and the harder choreography. Maddies sister was treated the worst by Abby. And they were all treated badly.
@@abramthegamingguy9016 yea Abby was hard on Kenzie sometimes and often had higher expectations, being Maddie’s sister. But generally speaking, Abby’s soft spot for her was way more apparent than Chloe or Paige
I'm if you can say they turned out "Richer" after the show. Maddie is rich bit that's bc she dose music and tv shows and stuff the moms spent thousands of dollars ever year for there kids to dance
Any blame for ANY ISSUES lies with her Mother. Her Mother pushed so hard, she was a terrible Mother, to both her daughters. Mackenzie was basically ignored by her. Everything comes back to the mother who wanted, encouraged and was desperate for her older child to be a Star in Hollywood. She was disgustingly, she allowed and encouraged all of this
And it always irritated me from DMs in s7 the phrase "the new maddie" drove me up and down the wall like i get it u impress people and set a huge example as a dancer and competitor but the problem is people are not gonna want new dancers and except them for them they want u to replicate what the last person did so they can keep that "high" and its so gut wrenching like i get it cheers to Maddie for being a good dancer and fist place winner but u gotta allow the next generation to be not only great but also themselves 😢 and allow them so have their OWN IDENTITY hell its our birth right for crying out loud
I’m so done with hearing and seeing videos of how Abby was so obsessed with Maddie and how she was abused. I’m sorry but her mother needs to take some responsibility of this so called abuse. Yes they had contracts but if the environment was so bad then her mother/ any mother would do what they have to do to take their child away from that environment- even in it means going to court to fight it, if it was as bad as they are trying to make out then the courts would side with them.
Maddie was Very Ungrateful. If it weren’t The Abby Lee Dance Company, there would be NO!!! Maddie Ziegler??? Maddie should get over herself and give credit where credit is due.
Abby Lee & Maddies relationship was toxic. Perfection is like climbing 🧗♀️ a hill and never reaching the top. Maddie was expected to be perfect 👍 and she wanted to please Abby more than anything. She was a child 👧 and should have never 👎 been put under that type of pressure. I understand that was what Maddie wanted at that time cuz it filled some kind of void in both of them, but as a mom to two girls 👧 I could never 👎 do this to them and my youngest is in dance 💃 but just recreationally. Thank God.
This is a joke right? You mean Sia's obsession right?? Abby Lee Miller was Maddie's teacher and coach and mentor and nurtured her gifts while preparing her for the life she lives today. How do people not understand this?
It’s not Abby’s doing. Her mother permitted and encouraged all of it. It’s all her pushy mothers doing, why don’t people see that? If the kid was anxious or emotional it’s all her mothers doing by allowing it to happen.
Say what you want about JoJo's recent "rebrand" but she was a part of this crazy show too. They are all still VERY young. And the traumas are going to show up.
The scene where Abby is literally crying and yelling at Maddie for "betraying her" by listening to her mother was one of the worst scenes on the show. I physically can't watch it
Christi was sickened by that scene in the podcast..I don't know if Melissa even knew about it, she wasn't in the room.
They mentioned it the same episode but the all moms all thought it was a happy moment and that Abby cried because Maddie and her fixed everything and had a nice moment. They had no idea what really happened until later. I can't imagine how awful Melissa felt after seeing that. Christi said it was completely psychotic and Kelly seemed sort of lost for words
the scene where abby just yells at chloe like all of szn 4 i physically couldn’t watch anymore && stopped
@urfavsh1teditorwell christi and Kelly are full of bs because they where complaining how it had been a nice moment for Maddie when it wasn’t but they didn’t like how she was favored or treated nicely
@@Channel24377 Christi and Kelly didn't hear that conversation...until the watched it for Back To The Barre...and we're sickened by it. Kelly has known Maddie since she was about 2.
All the women in Maddie’s life were obsessed with her. They wanted to live through/be that little girl. She was used as a portal to their desires and manipulated to think they were her own. And as a woman she is waking up. Take your life back girl! One day she will be an amazing mom, no rush. 🩷
the only people who actually cared about her at the beginning were christi and kelly. the hylands and zieglers were VERY VERY close. christi defended maddie against abby turning her friends against her, even though it backfired because abby is abby. they probably told melissa this too, and she probably didn't really care. i think kelly was the only one to truly care an extreme amount for maddie, and i think that's why she got so mad when inequities were shown. because she could see what it was going to do to her in the future.
@murmirr completely agree. Melissa loved her kids but i feel like she cared more about getting them famous and ahead and not their wellbeing because she thought if they were famous they'd be fine. That's just not how things work
@murmirr I think Melissa was in a very difficult place, with her divorce and Abby exploited that, so that Melissa owed her loyalty. Abby is very Trump like..in her narcissism..Then the TV show made it worse, Melissa tried to get out but was threatened by Lifetime, that they would own her kids and bankrupt her. She was especially unhappy that they finished too late...smetimes after mdnight... They threatened Kelly the same way. Melissa played the game to protect Maddie, while Abby bullied Kenzie. But Melissa got them out be working secretly for two years..to avoid the situation the Kelly and Christi. And to stop Abby from managing her children. I think the turning point was when Melissa married Greg, Abby was very nasty about it as Melissa set up a happy homelife.
Abby never understood the importance of those friendships between the Zieglers and Hylands. The damage she did to everyone when she set up Maddie and Kalani against Paige and Chloe. Maddie lost her best friends that day. And Chloe's trust.
@@urfavsh1teditor Melissa would have done anything and betrayed anyone to get Maddie famous, Kenzie was an afterthought for her. Her behaviour on DM was disgusting and she acts now like she's a saint who was always appalled by what Abby would do. She was complicit with Abby's abuse of her own daughters, and of all of the other girls as well.
@katyaanimefreak umm she doesn't act like a saint, she's said that she would do it all very differently and admitted she's said stupid things and made mistakes.
Abby describing Maddie's relationship with the dance studio as her "home away from home" from the messy divorce that her parents were going through felt so strange. It was like she was admitting that she took advantage of Maddie's dependence on her to benefit herself and make Maddie feel indebted to her. So weird.
it's so narcissistic, i feel sick thinking about it. poor maddie
The adult women in Maddies life failed her and was weirdly obsessed with her, I know she will grow from being a people pleaser and not having to be a perfectionist all the time
Obsessed how?
@@ameliagachaqueen3038they can't find anything else to say, so they use obsessed as a blanket term. Nobody was obsessed with that girl.
@@texan903 oh ok
@@texan903uhh yeah they where Abby sia and Melissa where def obsessed with her they made her there whole world and centered everything around her
@Channel24377 Melissa is a bully who pressured Abby to keep Maddie front and center and get the best numbers. If anyone was obsessed, it was Melissa.
I never thought Maddie as a brat you can tell she was a kind little girl who loved dance , Abby killed those kids passion for dance. Alot of parents push their children too far and they end up hating the sport
I’m not going to lie but I used to pass unfair judgment on to poor Maddie and say all of these mean things about her through social media but after viewing this video I learned to not be so quick to judge others unfairly without knowing the full story.
She is a very good girl, very nice too
The only one that was a brat to me was Kendall
@@natvan29 thats acc so true. There are so many clips of her either being mean or her mother having to pathetically back her up because she said or did something mean
Yeah Jessica. Considering you said it past tense, she was still a child. You’re a horrible person for writing mean comments about a literal child at the time.
“i was alone with male producers i was seven i did what ever they told me”😢 smh praying for healing
Yeah the way she was very specific with the “male producers” was very alarming that sounds scary for a little girl
Sia is obsessed too
She is it’s soo creepy and she has a contract with her
Which is so weird. Idk why she got attached. It slightly makes more sense because at least Abby was her teacher, Sia was just a random woman
???@@Bee-f7r
Sia seems to be out of her life too. Melissa rarely mentions Sia now
Out of the frying pan and into the fire right?
Abby feeling "betrayed" let's me know she didn't truly care for Maddie or those girls for that matter(even though we already knew that) she just favored Maddie cause it seems like if she pushed for one person to be the favorite she'd gain something from it. Those girls were literally modern day gladiators being used and abused for the sake of fame and a dream
I always believed the reason why Maddie was the favourite was she probably saw herself in Maddie and lived vicariously through her.
@@CremeBrulee-qm8wi Abby had a favourite in every age group, she thought having one up on a pedestal with the others trying to reach it was a good way to teach. That was the person who got the lyrical solos each competition season cause pigeonholing each girl into a dance style was something else that she also did with each age group.
@@CremeBrulee-qm8wiShe even said to Christie in one episode “Who wouldn’t want to be like Maddie? I want to be like Maddie!” A child needs to immediately be removed from the company of an adult that speaks that way about them. It was beyond creepy and obsessive.
At the time they show came out I was too young to watch it I understand. Today I am a mother, and I am in tears at seeing that baby ran off the stage and a panic attack. I can’t imagine myself doing that to my baby no matter what competition they are in. That child needed to be grabbed and hugged and told she was everything. I don’t have the competitive spirit, so maybe I will feel different with my child is actually putting their all into something. But that was unacceptable. That was a baby. A child who needed their parent to be there and tell them they won the greatest gift of all just by being born, love. Unequivocal, unconditional, impartial love.
This made tear up
So true and really sad.
This is very emotional, thanks for having compassion towards Maddie ;_;
It broke my heart because I’ve had panic attacks like that. You can just hear in her voice the way she’s saying “no”. I picked it up immediately because it happens to me, and as a grown woman it’s terrifying. I can’t even imagine how much stress that poor baby was under
Bro. Maddie is a millionaire. And has always had a cushy life. At her worst, she was still an upper middle class white girl on a tv show.
You people cry for the weirdest things. Make perpetual victims out of people who have everything in life.
She was fine. And is fine. I promise. Kid got upset she messed up her routine.
Bet youndidnt cry for little Nia who EXPERIENCED RACISM every week on that show.
Oh what a world.
Fun Fact: Abby Lee Miller was an inmate at the Federal Prison in Victorville, that my Parents worked at. My Mom said “Either her attitude on the show, was for the show, or she’s too afraid of getting the shit kicked outta her by the other female inmates to act how she did on that show. She’s as meek and mellow as a baby bird here!” 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂lol
From what previous students of hers have said I would go with she was afraid. Seems like the Abby we saw in season 1 and kind of in 2 is the real Abby, at least at the dance studio anyway.
As the seasons went on it seemed like being like that was the way that Abby coped with stress (and some was for TV)
She can bully children. Not adults that are tougher than her.
my dad worked there too!! we moved because he fell chasing an inmate. he would tell me stories about Tupacs dad calling him a sellout for working there and a "bowtie bitch". we moved before she went in but thats insane
@@keniyamccleary5775 Omg i hope he is okay with the fall???
I went through a similar situation with a female boss of mine. I was 20 when I started working for her & she was in her 50’s. She was very obsessed with me & had similar mannerisms to Abby. She always put me on a pedestal in front of my coworkers, said she saw me as a daughter, always trying to have me hang out with her & her family outside of work, was going through my desk, listening in on my phone conversations with customers, trying to login to my work email to see if I badmouthing her.. it was exhausting. She was very emotionally manipulative & she almost crashed out when I finally woke up & found another job. I was constantly under stress despite me being the favorite & it took a mental toll on me. My heart breaks for Maddie.
I’m going through this now and am considering pursuing another role. I’m mentally exhausted and I don’t understand why this is happening.
@@jessicamcdaniels2337 I’m sorry you’re going through this 😕 Try to get out as soon as you can. I lowkey regret not leaving the job earlier but at times I felt stuck. My mental health is doing so much better now that I have left & I do not keep in contact with my ex boss.
@@jessicamcdaniels2337yeah please look for another job that is a weird character to be aroujdn
@@jessicamcdaniels2337because you've found yourself taking on the role of "golden child" by a narcissist. It's a form of splitting. I'm assuming someone there had been made the scapegoat
@@clairewillow6475 Yup, you hit the nail on the head. The last girl in this role was fired. Only difference is, she was new to the company and was let go during her probationary period. I've been with the company for almost 3 years. I'm already past my probationary period and I transferred into this role. I'm getting married next year. So the plan is to save as much as I can and survive 8 months to 1 year. The pay is very good. I'm almost making 6 figures and im not even 30 years old yet lol. Trying to push through...Oh, forgot to add that, I've only been in this new role for just shy of 3 months. Since the other girl was pushed out and I was accepted in, there's a new scapegoat. Another girl around the same age as me.
Seeing little JoJo is crazy! I totally forgot she was on the show! I had to rewind a few times 😂
They brought her in to put a fire under Mackenzie
We want to forget her too
@@CremeBrulee-qm8wiThey did this with Asia too unfortunately.
@ Yes that as well
Everyone always goes hard at Abby which is rightfully deserved but I also blame every mom on that show, the producers, and the viewers who tuned in week after week to watch the show. Everyone failed those girls.
Right? Never saw the appeal of tuning in to watch children crying and being yelled that. I could just get that at home. Reality tv really normalized exploitation, but children should have been off limits.
Great video. Please elaborate on the sia maddie situation. Im interested and love ur format of video publishing
Yes! I would love to know what happened with Sia
Me too, hope this comment gets more likes so she sees
I always thought that shit was weird too
I know it’s not from this channel but MackZBoss has a good video on this
i was a kid who also had to cater to the emotional needs of and walk on eggshells around explosive adults. i cannot imagine the additional trauma and stress of going through all of this on television for the world to see. it really twists your mind and puts so much stress onto you already, and thats without the “performance” aspect. this poor girl was manipulated and mentally tortured. abby purposefully did things to create resentment and tension between her and the other girls. i hope she’s finally free and taking time to heal and evaluating what shes really truly passionate about.
Abby and Sia were obsessed with Maddie and it is weird, and they exploit her and Melissa let it happened.
I don't think sia exploited her. Maddie was heavily benefitted from it too.
The song chandelier was kinda about that abuse i believe
Great video. That scene when Maddie ran off the stage crying because she forgot the routine was heartwrenching.
Golden child syndrome is a real thing and I think many forget that. 😢
It really is. Then when you fail all the lights, cameras and action disappears. Everyone is disappointed even you. Lets just say...its a hard fall from grace.
@ yup. Michael Jackson as an example. He said he was his father’s golden child since music came naturally to him while his brothers had to work to joes satisfaction and always compared them to him. He felt really bad as well. It makes me understand he braces such a perfectionist 🥲🥺
Abby's just playing dumb to save face, like always lol. She knows why Maddie doesn't want any contact with her anymore. Great video!
maddie running off and having a panic attack is so terrifying, she was terrified she would be talked down to so horribly because she saw how abby treated her team mates when they also forgot and ran off
I used to watched this show all the time. Maddie was always the favourite and had the best dance routines and costumes. Also, her mother Melissa was also kissing up to Abby to get more dance routines and opportunities. The other girls were treated like an afterthought, and if the mums questioned Abby their children will suffer.
I legit feel bad for Maddie. I can truly understand her when she says she doesn't want to dance anymore. I went through a similar upbringing except in singing and acting. These adults living vicariously through you all because of who your dad is, and how talented you are, and the resources you have. Its exhausting trying to keep up with everyone's perfect image of you. When I finally graduated from highschool I went off to be a regular college girl. I stopped performing all together and everyone was blown away by that. Then I failed college and everyone shook their heads. In fact everything failed after that. So I isolated myself for most of my 20s . Even now in my 30s when I go home the only thing people ask me about is when,where, what, how, and why am I not this and that. Even my own mom brings it up and talks around the fact that she is so disappointed that I didn't go on to be famous. People just act like i just gave up. They have no idea how exhausting my preteen to teenage years were. When youre the best its very highlighted and expectations are set so high for you. I didnt have an abby lee miller in my life but i had a whole community of people who would manipulate me into wanting to do these things. Its one thing to be talented but to have a family name to live up to in addition to that was hard. Once I realized that my entire life was legit all about production, shows, rehearsals....I tried a break. Good thing for Maddie she got out of the business before crashing and burning. Because all that media, all that adoration, all the friends, all the lights, cameras, action goes out the window when they feel like you failed them.
Your enough already the fact they can’t see your a whole human being and just want to brag of your fame shows they superficial and not loving caring people they will never be happy without fame and money but you will find love and happiness by being yourself something they can never have.
She said “no” quick asf 😂
Sia & Abby are strange asf.
Omg please do videos for every girl!!! I would love little deep dives of each of their stories past and current from your point of view. Once again you made a banger. Love from Dallas ❤❤❤
I hope she does a video on the show as a whole.
I am disgusted about how they sold these girls for a show and exposed every personal thing they had especially their bodies. I did ballet for years and they never asked us to wear a top with the tutu, not even in closed essays. You can use a full body. It is more disgusting if you think they were little girls and they were almost naked on TV and who knows who watched this show.
thank you, I thought I was the only one to think that! I remember the first time I saw a Maddie's performance was in 2015, I was 11 and even though I don't know much about ballet I wondered if dancers, especially underage dancers, were really required to wear such skimpy outfits until I saw other performances by dancers who danced in costumes much more appropriate for girls as young as Maddie was at the time.
I remember when this show first came on, I used to wanna be on shows like this . I’m glad I didn’t , we have no idea what these dancers go through behind the scenes .😢🤦🏽♀️
Sadly and weirdly enough I think she will always be obsessed with her. And low-key wishing she would reach out. Even tho, she has said prior that the only way she would ever be in contact with her again is if Maddie apologizes first to her??!? Because they left the show in such a sneaky way and apparently Melissa helped Abby out with smuggling that Australian money. How does that have anything to do with Maddie and why would SHE be the one that has to apologize for it. What in the hell?!
Even though I enjoyed this show when it premiered, I felt sorry for the girls 😢. Abby Lee put too much pressure on Maddie and the other girls which I felt was so unfair. TBH Nia was my favorite. ❤
Abby Miller was enraptured with Maddie. Abby was crazy making and when Maddie had enough opportunities she was able to escape Lifetime . She went directly to rolling out from under Sia . Maybe that's her thing . As a young adult she has gotten the reputation in Hollywood as a small bit of Box Office Poison . Her first movie, The Book of Henry was nominated for a Razzy as Worst Film of the Year. Her second film, Music was a thorough embarrassment which actually presented some dangers for non verbal autistic people. Her voice over work was MEH . Her last movie, West Side Story, an iconic film and Broadway show, redone by fabulous director Steven Spielberg, Maddie actually WON the Razzy as Worst Supporting Actress of the Year . Her early promise has not materialized .
Abby put constant pressure upon all the girls, especially Maddie . There was some cruelty in it . Abby frequently told Maddie that she would have a career and wouldn't see or be near her team mates, because she'd get big and leave them all behind . Abby never thought that SHE would be the one left behind . She seems healthy and happy now and I hope that she is . She was definitely an exploited child .
Parents are going to an ugly divorce. It was not a safe haven. It was another abuse situation except now she was surrounded by her peers when dance moms was allowed to continue on as long as he did when there was obvious abuse going on that was my hope for the American dream died. Abby and her minions should have been stripped of their ability to work with children.
The way abby treated poor chloe and nia💔
And Paige, Kenzie, Kendall, and Brooke 💔😢
Don't hate me I'm a Black woman I blame Nia"s mom for pushing Nia to dance when clearly she did not have the talent she should have pushed her vocal talent .
She did have the talent Nia suffered from a condition which to the pint she couldn’t really walk nor dance holly clear as day stated that Nia wanted to dance and she dose have the talent to dance she clearly got better as she got older but I will say this she should gotten pushed more vocally don’t try to make negative comment then try to makes something a little positive I really want to see you do over 400 dances on national television.
@Darealestmera I have been in music for 50 years I have also been around dancers I understand about Nia's condition but when I heard her when she sang I detected real talent she would not have been subjected to being the weakest dancer almost every time I'm sure this affected her self esteem when it was totally unessesary she did not possess a ballerinas body form at all!
4:48😭 did y’all peep that
Jordan and Abby made a video literally titled “The Truth about MADDIE ZIEGLER” how are you gonna tak about her “truth” without her.. we will NEVER get the truth till maddie feels comfortable to share her side.
Abbys reaction to Maddie not wantin to tall to her reminds me of those parents who get cut off. they refuse to see how theyve hurt the ppl they "love" and loved them. some accept it and go "oh well theyve always been like this" or "it doesnt make sense!" or even dont accept it and continue to try keepin comtact w the person they hurt. its sad to kno Maddie was used as a child and how that affected her
Great video. I believe someone should do an interview with Scott Shatsky, the man behind the curtain that made all of the drama happen. Abby was a pawn just like everyone else. Keep in your mind that she wasn’t to even be on the tv show!
Im so happy Maddie grow to realize what Abby were doing was wrong!
Abby was a monster to all those little girls
Putting yourself on the pyramid killed me
Poor Maddie 😢💔 I hope she is on the road to healing ❤️🩹🙏🏽
Here's the thing, in order for Maddie to be the best, it is put down all the other girls, and Melissa was great with it.
There was a real dancer who said she's not taught properly, all these "people" harassed her out of UA-cam. The show was so gross I stopped watching only when Abby and Kelly got into a fight. I thought lifetimes was about feminist, no it's about was abusive.
So strange... this girl has been a muse to so many who just obsess over her.
Please do the hate towards Nia.
They exploited that kid. Those mothers let all that abuse happen. The mothers are to blame! Period!
Maddie having an entire panic attack on the side of the stage is heartbreaking. 🥺✨
Maddie needs a good therapist. Poor girl.
Who was that in the pyramid Clarissa 😂
Okay, good you saw it too 😂
*It's happened to me also. My Pre-K teacher favored me. And I've had teachers put my desk literally next to theirs. And it started drama and jealousy.*
HER MOTHER ALLOWED AND ENCOURAGED ALL OF THIS! SHE ISTO BLAME FOR EVERYTHING BY ENCOURAGING IT!
Sia’s creepy self next
Thanks Clarissa for being consistent with your videos ❤
Rewatching the seasons made me feel so sad for those girls . I can tell Maddie was so uncomfortable being the favorite an it wasnt even her fault.
Mackenzie, who was given so little attention, is now an amazing dancer!
I’ve been in the Dance for longer than Abby Miller. I’m also second generation dancer, dance teacher, dance to your honor and dedicated for dance competitions. I met Abby Miller very very long time ago in New York. I was in a national Dance convention and competition. She was literally screaming at very young children and threatening them and telling them that they better win because her reputation is on the line. My students came all the way to New York from LA and we’re very frightened by her. In fact, my students and their mothers insisted we move our group to another side of the dressing room so we wouldn’t have to witness her verbal and mental abuse to her students. Your comment about her loving her students is ignorant. She only loves herself in her reputation. Her mother was an incredible woman and teacher. And her mother never yelled at her students or made them feel bad. Abby Miller is demeaning, abusive, and quite scary to young children. I’ve witnessed this every day for a full week. Dance teachers who act like this give the rest of us a bad reputation. And they’re living their life through their students. I believe Miller was never been one of the professional dancer. And unfortunately, there’s quite a few in our country like that. They’re incredible amount of dance teachers and directors of studios are teaching incredible technique, and choreography and actually really care about their students. Abby is not one of them. Get your facts straight before you make a comment. Thank you.
Maddie is an amazing dancer. She was my favorite too.
I haven’t even watched the vid yet, but I just saw the title and thumbnail and busted out laughing 😂😭😂 it’s sad and weird and even a little bit creepy but for some reason theres some friggin ironic humor to it all
Her mom was the worse of them all
she went from one weird obsession to another with sia
Your killing these videos❤.
This is really good , Clarissa !!! Thanks !! All so true !! I am so glad that Maddie is out of that toxic environment ( her own words !) She's happier now , that's what matters !!! I always thought that Chloe was a much better dancer ! (my opinion) But , i loved all the girls !!! I never did like Abby !! She's egotistical and narcissistic!! Still is !! She wonders why Maddie doesn't speak to her anymore !! ( Hello , Abby you also abused Maddie , big time !!!) 👯👯♀️👯
Abby not being able to understand why Maddie wouldn't want to maintain a relationship with her is astounding.
I'm screaming, this is such a good video
That quick no to competitive dancing said enough
I think that Abby did something and Maddie told her mother but her mother didn't have proof of what Maddie was saying, but her mother had proof of abby's money situation and I do believe that her mother went to the authorities and reported that as justice, for what maddie told her mother
I’m not a fan of ALM, none whatsoever but I pray that she seeks intense therapy for her past emotional trauma 🙏🏽
I love your videos! I don't know why I haven't been getting your post notifications.
The Mothers who really cared about their kids and not fame…REMOVED THEM. This mother stayed for as long as her daughter was getting ahead.
this is just so, so, SO SICK. ( warning: a long comment)
Ok in general all the girls from dance moms were horribly abused and exploited, specially chloe, who admitted she had to get therapy to regain her shattered confidence :( and Nia, Brooke, Paige, Kenzie etc were all treated horribly too.
but Maddie, yes she was the favourite, had been through a lot of mental trauma too, she was pressured and forced by abby, her mother, witnessing her parents divorce, being manipulated and put up against her friends and whatnot, the producers made her look like a brat but shes NOT. shes a sweet and kind girl, she is literally so supportive to her sister and her friends during the dance moms series too if you see carefully, and today too shes a grown woman who is well mannered, classy and sweetest of all time i swear, okay i read some comments hearing she snuggled with grown women etc and idk if its true but thats rlly bad and concerning and abby feeling betrayed, like what? she legit ruined her life! i swear all women were so obsessed with maddie being so good at dance, even some of the moms too, at times if u notice...poor girl, the show was a hit due to the drama but it effected a huge part on her mental health inclusing the other girls, i hope maddie is now happy, regained her life back and live a happier life now, proud of her to cut connections with abby, tht woman ruined her life.
wtf how is taking her out of school best for her, she was the favorite because her mom actually was the best mom and decided dancing was more important than her education. Even if she said oh Maddie wanted to do that, yeah if you asked any fucking 7 year old if they wanted to leave school to dance they would say yes
And then she escaped one older woman's obsession. just to become anothers (sia).
Dance Moms is one of the most evil shows ever created
This video is so good
Todas esas tomas de maddie llorando no es por abby,,,quien no vio el programa puede ser engañado
Say what you have to about Abby, but the mom has everything to do with it. Maddie needed guidance & provision from her mom. Abby was a dance teacher who worked with what was given to her, her mom in the other hand, allowed her daughter to be in that environment.
Ska n Maddie was obsessed with her very wired she even said Maddie sleeps in the bed with her like um
Did this reporter really say not many people would say no to being on a hit lifetime show? If it involved people yelling & making my daughter cry I WOULD ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ON THAT SHOW. U must not have kids.
Omgg wait I wanna know what happened with Maddie & sia 😮😭
2:28 Who's gunna tell Abby that that's not what matters?
What bout Mellisa isn’t she part of this??
All Abby wanted was her name recognised & money from those children. Sad because she was a good dance teacher. She was to spiteful
Wow Abby Lee miller was never kind to any of those children. She’s a full blown narcissist.
I think Abby did alot wrong definitely. However, I think she 😢gets bad rap takng all of the blame. These moms were responsible for these girls at the end of the day. They also had alot of bad behavior. Maybe children shouldnt be allowed to do these things it doesnt seem to ever work out very well. I love all of these girls and I feel like I knew them and watched them grow up. The talent of all these girls was amazing and I never forget that as I still look back on their performances today. It never gets old seeing their solos and group dances. What a great group of young ladies.
Can we get a video on Bring It!!!!! Love the dancing dolls .DD4L!!!!!!!!!
All those parents are so wrong for having their kids on that show. Getting routinely verbally abused by that obnoxious Miller woman, constantly compared to each other and having their faces plastered on TV before they were old enough to make that kind of decision. They actively chose to allow their children to suffer for their 15 seconds of fame. Gross.
abby is mad her stars make more money than she ever did. she really gives life to that nasty phrase those who cant, teach. which sucks because people shouldn't have real life examples to back something that rude to say up. 😂
Only for Maddie to team up with Sia, who is more obsessed with her. I also I don’t think Abby was “obsessed” with Maddie. Abby trained her since Maddie was 2 years old so of course there is going to be a connection there and Maddie made Abby’s studio look really good. Unlike Sia we started out as a fan of the show and now pays for 24hr security for Maddie….which is weird because no hate to Maddie but she doesn’t need 24hr security she’s really not that famous. I think Sia did that so she would know where Maddie is all the time which is very bizarre.
My take is that Abby had a favourite with each age group and with theirs it was Maddie (at the same age Brooke was the favourite), the things about pitting them against each other etc was something that Abby already did too. She seemed to be obsessed in that regard, but it is more like when someone is the teacher's pet, but agree that the way that Sia is/was obsessed with her is more problematic.
Sad. Maddie went from one obsessive relationship to the next
She definitely needed 24 hr security. You don’t know this but there once was a man that was hanging around the ALDC studio to watch the girls. They were little girls!!! Of course they needed security!!!
@@branthlysauveur359 Maddie is 22 years old now. She doesn’t need 24 hour security. And if Sia wasn’t paying for it, she wouldn’t have 24 hour security because it’s not needed. Also none of the other girls have 24 hour security and they seem to be pretty safe….I mean nothing has happened to any of them that we know of. Again I think Sia providing 24 hour security to Maddie is more of a control thing rather than an actual security concern.
Abby definitely was obsessed with maddie,just like how she was obsessed with Brooke and was her favorite now she moved on from her. Abby wanted Maddie to be the best and always win,she wanted the girls to go up against her and she knew she was gonna win.
Maddie WAS the best dancer. Thats why she got the solos and the harder choreography.
Maddies sister was treated the worst by Abby.
And they were all treated badly.
Nah I think Chloe and Paige were def treated the worse
@thelordofthetundra2958 Page didnt get many solos because she did not stand out, and that is fair. Kenzie got yelled at so much more than Page.
@@abramthegamingguy9016 yea Abby was hard on Kenzie sometimes and often had higher expectations, being Maddie’s sister. But generally speaking, Abby’s soft spot for her was way more apparent than Chloe or Paige
Could you do a video on Asia Monet Ray, and her journey?
Chole was the first to leave.
I'm if you can say they turned out "Richer" after the show. Maddie is rich bit that's bc she dose music and tv shows and stuff the moms spent thousands of dollars ever year for there kids to dance
Any blame for ANY ISSUES lies with her Mother. Her Mother pushed so hard, she was a terrible Mother, to both her daughters. Mackenzie was basically ignored by her. Everything comes back to the mother who wanted, encouraged and was desperate for her older child to be a Star in Hollywood. She was disgustingly, she allowed and encouraged all of this
The mothers are just a guilty .
And it always irritated me from DMs in s7 the phrase "the new maddie" drove me up and down the wall like i get it u impress people and set a huge example as a dancer and competitor but the problem is people are not gonna want new dancers and except them for them they want u to replicate what the last person did so they can keep that "high" and its so gut wrenching like i get it cheers to Maddie for being a good dancer and fist place winner but u gotta allow the next generation to be not only great but also themselves 😢 and allow them so have their OWN IDENTITY hell its our birth right for crying out loud
I’m so done with hearing and seeing videos of how Abby was so obsessed with Maddie and how she was abused. I’m sorry but her mother needs to take some responsibility of this so called abuse. Yes they had contracts but if the environment was so bad then her mother/ any mother would do what they have to do to take their child away from that environment- even in it means going to court to fight it, if it was as bad as they are trying to make out then the courts would side with them.
Maddie was Very Ungrateful. If it weren’t The Abby Lee Dance Company, there would be NO!!! Maddie Ziegler??? Maddie should get over herself and give credit where credit is due.
Yeah no ms Abby emotionally abused all these girls
Abby Lee & Maddies relationship was toxic. Perfection is like climbing 🧗♀️ a hill and never reaching the top. Maddie was expected to be perfect 👍 and she wanted to please Abby more than anything. She was a child 👧 and should have never 👎 been put under that type of pressure. I understand that was what Maddie wanted at that time cuz it filled some kind of void in both of them, but as a mom to two girls 👧 I could never 👎 do this to them and my youngest is in dance 💃 but just recreationally. Thank God.
Why is Abbey in a wheel chair?
This is a joke right? You mean Sia's obsession right?? Abby Lee Miller was Maddie's teacher and coach and mentor and nurtured her gifts while preparing her for the life she lives today. How do people not understand this?
It’s not Abby’s doing. Her mother permitted and encouraged all of it. It’s all her pushy mothers doing, why don’t people see that? If the kid was anxious or emotional it’s all her mothers doing by allowing it to happen.
You’re calling them “ladies” but they aren’t. They are children. They have grown up and are ladies now, but they were children here.
Say what you want about JoJo's recent "rebrand" but she was a part of this crazy show too. They are all still VERY young. And the traumas are going to show up.