Blue Ocean Event : Game Over?
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2019
- A Blue Ocean Event, or Ice-Free Arctic, is the source of almost fever pitch speculation in the climate science world. The consequences of the disappearance of sea ice from the arctic ocean, however briefly, at the end of a summer melt season some time in the not too distant future, are potentially very ominous for the way we organise our human socio-economic structures today. This week, we consider what those consequences may look like.
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I live in rural Ohio. People here are unimaginative. Lots of black and white houses. I have an idea, ban the black metal roofs I see everywhere.
I've coated my metal roofing with white elastomeric roof coating. Drops the surface temperature about 50 degrees Fahrenheit.
Not really what you want though in winter is it?
@@justgivemethetruth doesn't matter. The sun is too low on the horizon in winter to absorb heat. I have lots of windows on the south side with a long porch and a sunroom. On sunny days I don't need heat because of solar radiation. My house was built right after the civil war. They made the best use of design to keep the house comfortable.
And that's just dumb. Put some solar panels up there.
Another point to include on your list is the fact that zooplankton in the Arctic is disappearing at an alarming rate. Last year it was almost 90% less. That's because they need ice, that holds their food sources, to survive over the winter. The ice cover is forming so late in the season that it's too late and they starve. They are the building blocks of the food chain and without them ocean life starts to collapse.
We live in a web of life, and as each strand breaks, it breaks another strand.
polarportal.dk/en/greenland/surface-conditions/
(09:00) " Good Luck With That "
Has me in stitches every time I watch...
You Are A Legend 💖
Keep Up The Great Work Bro
I'm here to say the same- "Good luck with that" lol.
They missed an opportunity to call it Operation Canute.
I am glad I stumbled over your channel. My 16 year old son, full of questions, eager to learn and then to act (he only drives by bike the 5 miles to School, also in Winter), was glued to the explanations you gave. We both felt that you have been able to explain a complex matter in an understandable way, without simplifying it or without the incoherent use of buzz words. We understand that one alone will not make the change, but starting with yourself is the first step. Well done, please keep it up and I will be watching other videos you have done too. Thank you!
Hi Philipp. Thank you for your very encouraging words. I'm very grateful for your support and I'm really delighted you and your son are finding the programmes useful. All the best. Dave
"I stumbled over your channel". Are you accusing this channel of being over-padded and thoughtlessly spread all over the place ? I take exception, I like it and I like Mister Think.
grindupBaker I believe you did not understand what I have written...- I am though glad Dave did and took my comments as a praise of the positive as it was meant. No hidden agenda just a plain English way to say thank you!
I just got solar panels! But the historical association that governs my neighborhood made me put them on the least effective sides of the house. lmao
If they want historical, show them the new outhouse LMAO..
Paint your house hot pink.
Yeah, we ended up with solar hot water on the north side of our old house for the same reason, lolol
You have a great show with great topics thanks for the effort
Your skills in organizing this complex information into pieces people can understand are awesome. Btw do you have a patreon account? I’ve never felt like asking that until seeing your vids. The effort you must be putting into them has got to be huge because the quality and value is incredible.
You're definitely one of the most articulate, listenable and reasonable climate crisis messengers on the internet. You don't sugarcoat or resort to extinction bombast like a few of the others out there whom I won't mention (but we know who they are). Subscribed and looking forward (to a degree) to further updates on the great existential threat of our species.
Hi Dr Restezi. Thanks for your kind feedback. I very much appreciate your support. All the best. Dave
"one of the most articulate" Well he went to Eton you know. I've noted the classic discomfort that comes from too many canings.
LMAO :-)
Alarmism basically ruins climate science
@@n.v.ggaming396
What examples if alarmism are you thinking of?
This is horrible and it is so sad that nothing really is be addressed like it should. Something is really wrong with us as a species.
Glad to see that you're starting to report on the true severity of our predicament. Your low-emotion, calm voice is very valuable in this context. Keep up the good work.
Indeed. The shrill voice of the Church of Climatology preaching, "We can save the world, but we need your funding NOW!" is sooo annoying. They may (or may not) be right, but the tone makes me turn the channel every time. Thank you for calmly presenting your points.
Agreed.
@@geraldfrost4710 : What shrill voice? This gentleman just presented some of the most profoundly disturbing consequences of global warming. But when people are lulled into complacency with denier lies, one has to get their attention or it will be too little to late.
Laurence Vanhelsuwe “calm voice” you mean calm interspersed with high tones reserved to indicate dire and dangerous predictions?
@@kennyd6738 : The problem is people are being lied to about how serious this climate crisis is for the purpose of allowing for as much fossil fuel to be sold and burned as possible. One of the most entrenched and politically powerful industries in history wants to maintain it's profits and power; The consequences to all of us be damned.
Thank you for a sobering talk, well researched and delivered.
I decided to join the Green Party, and now I am working as a representative, elected even! Little by little, we're raising awareness, changing the agenda, altering the course. We are gaining more momentum, every day. It was either that or just give up everything. That wasn't really a choice, since there are many people I love and care about - and want to grow old with. I ride a bike, I repair computers as a hobby, eat vegetarian - and try to help others whenever I can.
Good for you, Thomas! Thank you for your efforts on our behalf :)
There should be more of you. Sadly, there just isn't. It's difficult to keep people focused, because of so many distractions out there. As the pandemic rages, it's easy to push climate change to a back burner.
Your only fault is your too modest. By the way, unless you can convince Asian countries to stop constructing coal fired power stations etc your virtue will go unrewarded.
@@popshaines5492 One thing that people need to do is to stop pointing the finger at others....
I done that all my life also ..still were doubling down on screwing ourselves !. I found not making humans important helped .We are no different than any other animal that becomes to successful . Were clearly not the species that can carry a technological can forward when were still chimpanzee brains in all social matters .
Blue Ocean Event is like the Blue Screen of Death from Windows... But in that case, for humans.
Meanwhile, some kids in USA goes to school with their own pickups...
It's all if and buts, trial and error comes to mind ,then the words I told you so
As someone that has been following this issue, in a professional capacity, since 2005 I can say that this is one of the more reasonable channels that deal with climate change.
One Alien says to the other Alien circa 2060 "I told you that would work. We now have a nice new hot world for our reptilian brothers. They might even make us kings for this one"
yes they told that umpa lumpa trump to keep nuke the sun just to make a global vvarming n dried up the earth
reptiles need a fairly stable temperature range to survive in. They wouldn't be too happy with +4 degree dustbowl conditions.
You may also add the methane release from the the Canadian permafrost.
methane as luckily a short life in the atmosphere, dough it will convert to CO² ;( not as bad but is still more CO²
@@pinheirokde yes only 100 years or so, nothing indeed.
G'day,
Sadly, back in the late 1990s New Scientist magazine informed me of the existance if Methane Clathrates on the Seabed off Norway's Coastline - which had already begun to bubble at 300 metres or so - but the Bubbles were back then not visibly reaching the surface - but rather being dissolved into the Seawater...
The Article was scary, and it finished on a worse note ; detailing how some Idiots are attempting to MINE THE SEABED METHANE CLATHRATES, off Japan...
We be goanna Cull manyManyMANY of ourselves ; rather soon, methinketh.
Perfect Liberty..., includes the Absolute Freedumb to Choose WRONG...; as my Grandparents', Parents', and my own generations have mostly done....(!).
Oopsie...
Such is Life,
Have a good one.
;-p
Ciao !
Steven Fry Add the Siberian permafrost as well.
....and lying stupidity running governements at every level of Canadian politics?
Your videos are fantastic on many levels: informative, super interesting, well presented and edited, easy to understand, etc. Thanks for posting !!!
A good even handed presentation. One point worth mentioning is that most of the 450 nuclear power stations worldwide are situated by rivers or coasts, for obvious cooling purposes... Not good.
"Not good" is a classic understatement. Well said.
Charles Oakley
and it's for this very reason i don't like nuclear power. people never seem to think even two steps ahead...it's really sad what humanity has become.
I'm not sure what your smoking but nuclear is the only practical solution to climate change we have, unless you want to go back to the stone age not having power or commit 6 billion people to end their lives with starvation.
@@anthony74001
solar and wind is fine.
what are you smoking? nuclear power plants will be at risk of water floods in 10-15 years. even longer there wont be plants because they will be under water.
building power production/store in land is the only practical solution. why would you build near water? how foolish.
Brilliant! Thank you for this, Dave.
- Wow, Going South, what a good surprise to see you here. I totally agree with you, this video of Dave's is brilliant. I'm sure it must take a lot of work to cover such a complex topic so concisely. He is a natural teacher.
BTW; Have you noticed how many climate denigning trolls this video has brought out of the woodwork? There are some relentless whoppers here, just saying...
Anyway, I hope all is well with you and yours.
-Chaos
Once upon a time, not long ago, the Kara Sea, Siberian Sea, Leptev Sea, and Chuchki Seas stayed mostly frozen over all year round.
Now, all those seas become ice free every year.
SOOooo, a large part of the Arctic Ocean already have Blue Ocean Events...every year.
Only the Arctic Basin, in the center, stays frozen.
That will soon change, though.
Happening right now.... the basin is not freezing over as it normally does... and North America covered in snow!
Lies! Libtard lies and hysteria! Blue ocean events and the Arctic free of ice is a good thing! What we really need is more oil fields in those regions and MORE SUVs to keep us safe and MORE WARS! those are good for the economy and population control!
Praise Jesus! Jesus saves! Just have faith in Jesus! Allahu Akbar!
@@teklife I take it that was an example of sarcasm. Right??
@@craigkdillon fake news fake news fake news!
::covering my ears::
LA LA LALA-LALA LA LALA-LALAAA! (smurfs)
@@teklife Ah. I see. Your imitation of a right wing nut job is amazingly accurate.
It is also a good impression of my 5 yo nephew when I tell him he cannot have anymore cake.
The main difference being that my nephew will one day become mature.
Great wrap up, makes it very easy to grasp a complicated issue, solid advices at the end. Good job Fella. Keep up the good work!
I got rid of my car. I have 3 bicycles and live near a bus stop. I'm lucky to be able to do this and I know not everyone can do the same. But I know that some individual effort is required so this is my contribution.
It's a good thing the bus doesn't use diesel fuel.
İ've traded in my gas motorbike with a electric one. Tring to take the public transport wherever I can. Still could not manage to get rid of the car because of the kids but I'm on my way to do so.
Nice to hear from the people on similar path. Keep it up bro..
gerald frost. really ?
Well done you! Anything that reduces individual car use is a good thing.
Rick Vanderlinden Doing what one person can is a good thing.
Speaking from personal experience, people tend to shut down when the message starts getting into doom and gloom territory.
@Donald McCarthy. Blimey! I believe the medical abbreviation is FUBARBUNDY isn't it?
Do you believe the doom predictions? And do you shut down? I don't, I get a jolt to action. So I find that reasoning hard to understand. But I hear it a lot, so it may be correct. If so, how can we make people rise to the scale of the problem? The only way I know is what works for me, so I try to make people understand the scale and feel it. But if that does not work, then what does? Please share insights or scholarly research.
@@philipganchev2306 Only people already committed to climate action aren't going to shut down. People who aren't already on board would be motivated to believe it is all a lie in a frantic attempt at seeking comfort.
@@hyric8927 How did those become committed? How can we make everyone committed?
@@philipganchev2306 Take it one step at a time. Start by cementing climate change as a scientific fact. The second stage is that cement the idea that they can do something about it. Then it's about convincing them that action cannot happen from within their comfort zone. You yourself have already gone through all these steps if not more, correct?
Personally I've moved into an RV and outfitted it with solar power....I started a company, that does various jobs, but always gives a high percentage of profits to people down on their luck, not charities, but real people....I don't need lots of money, living a simple life, so being able to help other people gives purpose and meaning when it comes to trading my fleeting time for labor...I Don't fly, don't eat meat, and spend a large amount of time in nature, it's a great, rewarding, low footprint life...JUST HAVE A THINK ABOUT IT......" The secret to change, is not in fighting the old, but, in creating the new"--Socrates character......
Gives a whole new meaning to "trailer trash," doesn't it? Good for you from a fellow vegetarian surfer. I haven't gone as far as you but my 30 mpg 94 Saturn has over 300,000 miles on it and I'm going solar if I don't get thrown in jail too long for protesting:-)
real eyes realize real lies I love it!!!
thank you, many more need to be convinced!
I've literally been considering living this way. Do you also do business online?
I want to live like you :)
Thank you for a well thought out and informative presentation. Much appreciated!
Block Blue Ocean Event
Make ice thick this year 2020
I love your unbiased information over flow on your specified topics. It helps anyone draw more universal conclusions and solutions to universal situations existing in this planet. Thanks a and keep up the great work
Thank you for all you do! Have you ever had a segment on bugs? I’m in the mid west and decades ago, up until approximately the last ten years I’ve battled bugs stuck on my windshield during summers. Where did they go? It’s rare that I need to use my bug cleaner and I never have to pull over anymore when traveling in the expressway for a long distance to clean the entire windshield off to see again! Thanks again .....
Jill 🌻
Hi Jill. Thanks for your comments. I haven't yet done a whole program on bugs, but I may well do at some point this year. I did briefly reference the insect extinction problem in the video on the Institute for Public Policy Research in the UK. Here's the link
ua-cam.com/video/YJGnYAjU8OY/v-deo.html
All the best. Dave
It's the Roundup the farmers are using. Nasty stuff.
hipcat13 Undoubtedly bad. But a 75% extinction rate also appears in Puerto Rico where RoundUp was not used.
Jill Cummings it has a lot to do with the microwaves 4g as bad but now with 5G it has wiped out most species!
Why is this happening ?
TO BUILD THE CHINESE ,RUSSIA AND AMERICAN HIGHWAY , 3/4 HAS ALREADY BEEN BUILT . WELCOME TO THE NWO THE CORPORATE RULERS.
WATCH MIKE MORALS , IT SHOWS HOW ITS ALL HAS BEEN MANIPULATED BY PEOPLE OFF GREED !
Another well researched report. Thank you for your continued climate awareness. One critique if I may, my understanding is that wheat, rice and so on, wont simply move poleward very well. Although the temperature may improve for these crops in higher latitudes, the soils are not as well suited for these crops and thus yield is going to take a serious hit. Actually, it looks like it already is.
Hi Tim. I think you're right about that actually. I remember hearing that mentioned in a recent documentary (I think by Deutsche Welle) looking at Siberia. My biggest worry though, is how the hell do we migrate people to somewhere safer anyway, without completely dismantling the way we operate national borders and politics at the moment. If I had to take a very grim bet, I would say that conflict may well do for us all before the worst effect of climate change kick in.
@@JustHaveaThink I was talking with a Canadian friend who joked, "Not to worry, we're going to build a wall".
Haha. Yeah they might need one when everyone starts moving north!
polarportal.dk/en/greenland/surface-conditions/
Sorry but there are no scientific papers referenced here, instead his information predominantly comes from media outlets, that take information from scientific papers and sensationalise it too sell news. Climate change is a big challenge but this guy and the media companies where he gets his info don't help.
Thank you so much for being BEAUTIFULLY and ELEGANTLY BLUNT re. the mess we are in. I sometimes despair the fact that people I feel are intelligent just "don't seem to get it" or sadly choose to ignore the science that is so easy to obtain and is plainly telling us the facts. It is a little refreshing to see that as I key there have been 304,195 views and I really hope they pass the word to their friends. The only hope from my reading is that people talk about it far more openly. We don't need to lecture them but we do need to show them the facts and hope they will make up their own minds to act NOW.
Thanks for this great explanation. Am enjoying your videos! Keep it up!
You put a lot or work into your videos and it shows. Keep up the good work, they are excellent.
This is a high quality presentation of the arctic ice problem. Thank-you for making this complex topic so approachable to the public.
1979, why not 1800?
Brilliantly clear explanations: thanks so much!
Block Blue Ocean Event. Make thick ice by freeze layers, stores carbon too while creating SRM....
You can not stop it. It's gone to far. You need to study more about our past to know what's happing now. You will see it for what it is. Study and study more took me 4 years to know what I know. You will see it for your self.
Well done & nicely put together! Thank you
Sounds like death by a 1000 cuts.
Great video!
FortisFinances More like death by a thousand alarmist videos!
@@9pwsscamel369 They don't know how to breath without going RRRRRREEEEEE!!!!!about something now.
Fact is the XYZ is worse today than it was on any day that wasn't worse than this. RRRREEEEE!!!!!! :D
@@illbeyourmonster1959 F**K you're stupid. Go back to drinking moonshine hillbilly slack jaw.
@@deanwalker5367 And 1 year later. *NOTHING AS CLAIMED HAPPENED AGAIN.* 🤣
@@illbeyourmonster1959 OMG who said everything will happen within a year? Oh of course for you, a year of thinking about a response was needed, must be hard for a smooth brain. Look forward to your response next year, have a think, don't strain too much.
Excellent call to action. Thank you.
I agree with everything you have said. I live in FL and Miami is nuts if they think humans can stop what is coming and in store for FL. By 2030 it's not unrealistic to imagine that half of FL will be taken by the rising sea. I live on the Gulf Coast just south of Tampa and Tampa has been discussing how rising sea levels which they already are seeing will impact the city. It will be pretty much gone.
I just recently discovered your series of videos. I appreciate how calm you remain, even as you tell the worst of it. As frightening as some of this information can be, I think we really need to be aware of the consequences we are now facing. Thank you for making these videos.
Very good points. 2 degs here rise and 4 up in the Arctic. The BOE is not far off my friend. The Greenland shifts cold pole location. Yikes
2046 October.
@@quadq6598 The Mayan calendar clearly predicts WAIS grounding line retreat in the Amundsen Sea sector commencing April 1, 2020. It's like the Bible, you just need experts like me to translate from the Mayan and interpret in my pay-per-plate lecture tour franchise.
@@grindupBaker Oh no, not another prediction that will pass by and then be forgotten about!
@@globebustersblunders2545 And one more page documenting something that alarmists said would happen, but didn't, will be added to the library of made up alarmist bullshit claims.
QuadQ Please research how he conjures up his numerology - assumptions, massaging . . .
hi dave, as one of your earliest subs I am very pleased to see how your videos have come along and i can see why you are now at 9k. I've just joined the Met Office so if you ever need any contacts or info i would be glad to help if i can. keep the messages coming
Thank you for tackling this most important of issues.
Best part!! When he talks about the Florida's big pump aka Bandaid solution... " good luck with that" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Of course the elephant in the room is the 6th great extinction, which is well under way and most likely has no human exception.
It definitely most likely has a human exception but it's still sad because effelumps are my favourite, not humans.
Uh... you've got it completely wrong... mass extinctions don't happen during warming periods. You're incapable of being rational about this, apparently.
Jeff Currey Will the elephant in the room also be a victim of this event?
But humans are exceptional. We are not a part of circle of life. We created farming which allows us to create articial environment. The entire earth can be climatically changed but we can create a giant greenhouse for our food... Well my food for sure
Warming climates dont make things go extinct. Excessively deep and long cooling cycles do. Do you people do any real scientific study or observe basic annual life cycles at all anymore?
#1 mass killer of plant and animal life worldwide every year is winter (billions of tons of life dies every fall) . Not summer. (billions of tons are reborn and grow.)
Same with mass extinctions. They all happened going into ice ages not at the peak warm periods between them.
Sooner we hit the 0 mark, the better. We can stop worrying about loss of artic ice and start worrying about survival.
Wow real empathy you have there dont hold back now.
Dont you bother worrying a bout it , it won’t change it . Earth can manage without us creatures on it.
@@justmechilling... at some point you have to realize you're trying to stop a runaway train and start thinking about how you're going to survive the crash.
Arun, the Arctic and Antarctic are the global Air conditioners. They redistribute cold from the Arctic into the Equator and Oceans in the Equator send hot water to the poles. I predict that heat waves will accelerate in continents "United States" when the last of the ice is gone.
@@justmechilling... 1990 was the last year that population should have stabilized. Co2 emissions keep track with global population.
Amazing summary. Thank you for your efforts!
I really appreciate what you do on this channel, and the professionalism with which you do it. But I so wished we lived in a world where none of this was necessary. Thanks for what you do and please keep it going!
Question: Is there data found in ice cores or such that is comparable to the current global warming even from before the mini-ice age, during that warming event?
This is a truly exceptionally excecuted video. Thx.
Block Blue Ocean Event. - JHAT
Looking at trend lines won't predict the abrupt changes we need to expect. Feedback loops, many of which mentioned in this video, will certainly catch most people off guard.
BLOCK BLUE OCEAN EVENT
SRM, calculations...make history!
We make thick ice, 5 plus meters and ride the waves......para-makers jumping to colors today in the darklight North Pole....prepare ice makers for jump...we attack the poles and make ice thick...
@@channelwarhorse3367 you wut, mate?
Make thick ice cap....trends lines, does making ice cap 5 meters thick this year benefit us!
Ice makers needed to work in tje arctic or we just get hot! Cool the world and dump heat to space on vacation making an icehouse and farm ice from the sea to upon ice layer, freeze repeat and we drown ice to tje Ocean bottom!
Control the temperature of the planet needs some muscle to pump thermo! We march for the circle and make ice!...Save our futures! Save the world! Make ice! We will have victory!
@@channelwarhorse3367 If only it were that easy... Maybe don't make ice, though. It takes a lot of energy to transition water through phase changes.
@@brawndo8726 and the angle of earth reaches maximum ice making, we get out. However making cubes high give us vantage points in the arctic. Any army can accomplish this for you.
Sad go back to Mc Pherson and cry climate change some more. Block Blue Ocean Event needs peole to implement. And vertical pipes capped opened ended push into water at air temperature which brings the cold below sea level making ice....we make lots of ice.
Icemakers needed, any army can accomplish and succeed....
Are we worthy of earth?
JHAT......Thankyou for your series.
Your production is THE best. I hugely enjoy your episodes even if that contradicts the messages and feelings/emotions that come with it. Your layman grounding and calmness of delivery is perfect for the everyman/woman and you do the world a great service.
I thank you again sir.
😉👍🥂👏👋👏
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+Just Have a Think Thank you for another great video. I'd like to ask that your graphics are held for a couple of second or more to give folks like me who like to study then for at least a few seconds can pause them. 15:15 and 1:21 were particularly egregious in this regard.
Hi Dogphlap. Good feedback. I hadn't thought about that. I'll try to keep them up a bit longer in subsequent videos. Thanks as always for your support. All the best. Dave
Another fantastic and extremely informative video. Many thanks and keep up the great work!
Anthony Davis I share all his videos on our Facebook page because they are so well done and easy to understand. I’m so happy that Dave is really blooming in this genre.
Found this on a comments section about climate change in The Guardian. Thanks to those who share these videos with others. Even with a doctoral level of qualifications in environmental issues, this video is scientifically accurate and discusses the variability between different studies, but they all say the same thing overall. We could get involved in arguing the details or take action to slow climate change. Good luck everyone!
My grandfather used to say, 'The more effort you put into convincing me, the less I believe in your product. A good product does not need a big sales pitch'. In other words, when are we going to stop trying to convince people of the NEED to do something about climate and start getting them on board with what we ARE doing about it?
Yes, like replanting the vegetation we destroyed, heal ecosystems, etc.
@@precisiont5188 I agree. There are a lot of people doing a lot of work and spending amazing amounts of money to improve our planet. They have been doing this for DECADES. It bugs the fuzz out of me when all these new comer environmentalists are hollering, "we need to 'start' doing something". Stop virtue signaling and join the good work.
Great Video clearly explained as normal 👍🏻🌎 thank you for your time and hard work
Well done again. I believe the blue ocean even will be in the next 5-years, maybe sooner. There is lots of information to consume out there on this, but recent trends sure point to something in the very near future. Just looking at this year we have just crossed into the spring when ice begins the retreat. It has already taken a major dive over the past 30 years of recorded history at 340k square miles below the 1981 to 2010 average and shows no sign of declining that rate right now. The Bearing Sea was completely ice free before spring this year also and right now we have broken the record for the amount of ice loss for the last 5-years at this point, which are the lowest ever recorded!
I think the blue ocean event will take a little more than 5 years. Maybe 20 years. Although, it's definitely coming.
idk, it’s 2022 now, i don’t think it’ll be by 2024. you’re not far off, i’m assuming in the 30s, but we’re experiencing the beginnings of collapse now
This reminds me of the physics experiment we did when I was kid in school.
Measure the mass of ice, and put it in an insulating styrofoam cut with a thermometer.
Record the temperature over time as the ice melts and then the water goes to room temperature.
You can see how every last speck of ice will keep the water at a pretty constant cool temp,
but once the ice has absorbed the latent heat of fusion the heat that was being absorbed by the ice now is contributing to the heating of the water and the water heats up much faster then.
This is exactly what is going to happen to the Earth when we run out of ice to absorb all our heat.
People do not seem to understand this, nor realize just how fast and how unstable this planet will become if we do not have masses of ice to moderate the temperature. I think we are heading at breakneck speed to an almost certain destruction of human civilization and another extinction of nature. Intelligent species my ass.
No because Earth also has an ocean and that exerts 93% of the control but the ice exerts only 3% of the control. The other factor is that Antarctica has ice so vast that it can;'t conceivably be all melted in less than a few millennia unless humans intentionally do that and put all their efforts into achieving that.
Thanks for this video. Very clear.
The next time we have a devastating summer like the one of 2012 in the Arctic, will be the summer where the first Blue Ocean Event will take place.
After 2012 90 % of the ice left is thin ice. This thin ice is very vulnerable to the weather conditions during every melting season. Another melting season like 2012 and the ice will be gone.
The likelihood that a 2012-like-summer will occur within the next 10 years is very high. Even the likelihood that such a summer will happen within the next 5 years is high. High enough that my best guess is that it will happen within the next 5 years.
Well things is better than they were 13 years ago when All Gore was saying it'd all be gone by 2007. Just sayin'! Certainly wasn't about to all go last year, was it? Go and look at DMI arctic sea volume and you might calm down a bit.
@@colinmacdonald5732 better yet...start praying...another useless way to WAKE UP.
@@colinmacdonald5732 did Al Gore actually say that or is it just another idiotic denier meme? In any case, Al Gore is not a climatologist. Try listening to them, not hiding from reality just because a non climatologist celebrity allegedly made a claim that was not accurate.
start to learn perma-culture, subsistence agriculture, that you can do, in the back yard, community garden or greenhouse
Good luck with that endeavor given the typical single person needs at least 1 acre of tillable fertile land to have any hope of growing enough food to last them 1 year under near optimal conditions and that doesn't include the land space need to live on and store their absolute bare minimal life necessities and crop in either.
Fact is, back in the old days under the homesteaders act a person (or family) got 80 acres of land, and for too many in certain areas, that was not a self sustainable property base to work from. :(
There are collapsing fail safes that come with an overheated ecology. Bilght water acquisition stressed plant life around the planet. Food crops can't cope can't adjust. Plus human pandemic. It's gonna be very ugly. 1st world food riots ending democracy instigating great chaos.
@@illbeyourmonster1959 there are youtube videos with a family living on a half an acre (or less)in the subs in California/san fan. And others who convert public land towards communal gardens.(and if local gov trys stop you start electing politicians who will change those shitty rules.) Grow vertical not wide. Most houses/ apartment blocks have wasted spaces lawns and roofs. Also make good compost. And stop spraying for bugs, weeds we need them.
Pot is the strongest green house gas of all.
@@justmechilling... And what is the real world scalability of that concept. My guess is it's very low before it overwhelms some other critically limited resource of some kind.
Just thinking if we desalinated some of the additional water raised due to melting ice caps. Which is easily done by boiling the seawater and collecting the vaper
Thank you for summing it up so well! This is why I think we should be focusing of preserving Arctic sea ice rather than some meaningless temperature rise limit.
Well done. This is one of the most informative succinct and even handed of any video on the blue ocean event.
In fact all your videos are of a high level due in part to the obvious time and effort put into them.
Come on people this presenter deserves to have 2M subscribers not 8K!
Thanks Vic. I'm extremely grateful for your support and for such positive feedback. Much appreciated. All the best. Dave
Thank you for your detailed, masterful presentation. Questions, please:
1. How will increased rainfall from hurricanes dumping tons of water on the land affect the fertility of food-growing regions?
2. Will new food-growing regions open up as tundra regions warm up?
1. look china's flood = ruined crops
2. in russia: partly radioactive (still), in canada: maybe
@@antcommander1367 Right, thanks. I'm thinking that northern Canada, Siberia, Patagonia and even Antarctica itself will one day need to feed and house a lot of humanity.
But it would seem there's no getting out of it: we need to seriously and aggressively develop off-world resources, particularly fresh water, and living possibilities. It will take generations, but we'd better start.
The boon in such technologies is that they will help us to better steward this planet.
Crops can die if exposed to too much water, and there will probably also be reverse effects in which there is more drought in some areas (like the southwest United States)
In addition to too much rain destroying crops, it can also shortens growing/planting cycles- farmers have to wait for flooded areas to dry out (to some degree) before they can plant their seeds.
The important thing to remember is that discussions about global warming are not permitted to talk about any possible positive outcomes or mitigating effects. All skeptics must be crushed with each and every storm, drought, flood, volcano, etc that occurs being used as definitive evidence of the impending doom. So be sure to never ask questions like this.
Thank you for all your effort in spreading truth and wisdom.
No its socialism doing that. A truly capitalist society would be simply taking what it needs from the weak, and we wouldnt have a global population of 7BN. Blame it on the UN.
I hunt spaceships
BLOCK BLUE OCEAN EVENT
Make thick ice this year, pump from sea and freeze the sea higher!
@@rufanuf1 my god we March enough people we will have a 5 meter thick ice cap....Block Blue Ocean Event....stabilize the jet streams!
How this is such a polarizing issue is beyond understanding. It is easy to see that we are heading for trouble and still so many just don't want to believe it's happening.
Pretty much, yes.
Zthanks for your efforts in explaining the scientific to the non-scientific like me
Block Blue Ocean Event 2020...might be our last year to thicken ice cap, yikes!
Yes. A Blue Ocean Event will essentially spell the end of mankind, and basically all life on earth, about 10 years after the first BOE.
(Paul Beckwith) He doesn't say this in as many words, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but.....first of all, he thinks for sure before the end of the decade, and more likely before 2025.
He's a guy that actually studies the stuff. Watch his stuff on the matter, and what it will mean for the earth after.
You people are pathetic. Think for yourselves for a change.
Joe Simones I’m curios Joe, can you explain the thinking for yourself that you did to come to conclusion (I am assuming this) that global climate change is false??
@@ouimetco He came to the conclusion that ignorance is bliss, and that ignoring the obvious to keep himself from existential dread is the best option. Denying climate change means you can be happier in thinking things aren't as bad as they are, which is a reason so many people do it.
Humans have a bias towards thinking events will happen next year or a few years from now or not at all. We don't handle longer term issues well, unless we are thinking of families. My own guess from reading and looking at the graphs is that in 5 to 10 years there's a high chance. Not certain and I am not an expert. The problem here is that we have a complex system that normally produces changes over centuries being perturbed by positive feedbacks that could trigger changes in decades or less. I leave the serious resolution of that to the modelers who know far more than me.
@@ouimetco climate change is not as big a threat the climate acolytes make it out to be. The sun plays more of a role in global climate than all the carbon dioxide in all the hydrocarbons in the world. The fact that climate activists are against nuclear tells me this isn't about lowering CO2 levels in the atmosphere. It's a political movement, as those who free think have seen for decades.
Interesting question.. should we aim to modulate greenhouse output to stay within that +/-0.4 window or to reduce as much as possible our effect which could throw us into an ice age?
Your opening was brilliant. As a regular person living a normal life, It doesn't matter which credible scientific organization you follow - they all say the same thing. Sooner or somewhat later, a blue ocean event will happen. It's a great model for regular people to adopt so they are not lured out into the weeds of which scientist or organization is right and miss the point of they all are and all of us are in trouble.
I'm definitely living a normal life and trying to be a regular person. I'm currently trying alternate green lentils & boiled beef with kale, and prunes, dates, blueberries with oatmeal to see whether that does the trick. Just have to avoid being caught out on the highway.
Greate presentation, please do more, thank you sir
Check his channel, lots of great videos there.
Shameless apple polisher.
Just a note: the _"heating the equvalent amount of water up to 79°C"_ statement is slightly confusing: _"the equivalent amount"_ is a 30cm-1m thick layer at the surface over an area equivalent to 2-3 Greenlands. It won't heat the oceans in themselves much, since they're in general 3700 meters deep and covers 71% of the surface area. While 79°C sounds shocking, it is just one of those Saturn-floating-in-an-ocean statements. It is unrealistic and doesn't carry any real meaning.
@Alex McAuliff You really should read my other comment on this disliked video. Don't try to make climate predictions without referring to models. This video is just wrong -- it tries to derive predictions without math, making it an insanely alarmistic image. There is nothing like this catastrophe prediction in serious references to a Blue Ocean Event. Your logic is right, your maths and probability computations are lacking. Don't do videos like this!
This is great. No hand wringing over what to do, just a simple observation of what's actually happening. We are indeed f#*%ed. Thanks for the report.
And 1 year later. *NOTHING AS CLAIMED HAPPENED AGAIN.* 🤣
I love your channel and your data which I like to share with others. After listening to your report on the roll soil can play in addressing climate change I am looking in to writing some grants to help local farmers and ranchers adopt sustainable regenerative practices. Wish me luck and thank you for all that you are sharing.
I agree that everyone can make a difference overall. I also believe that you should do what is possible for you to do to make the envrionment better, and start with little changes in order to make sure that you stay on track instead of dropping everything because it is too time consuming. One can not change diet overnight or buy an electric car. The biggest obstacle to a better environment is the lack of interest and the vision most people have that they will not have any impact or they simply do not have time to make any changes in their lives. So I encourage you to make little changes in your life, to get started at your level, and to convince yourself that any small change will make a difference in the end because you are not alone in this. What to do ? Here is what I did myself as an example: I collect rain with a rain barrel to water my plants, I compost my dead leaves, my grass, and all my vegetal scraps an others. I have a Honda Clarity (if you do not want to go fully electric, try the hybrid plug in). I try to eat less meat gradually. I grow vegetals on a community garden, and I give some to my neighbours. And I tell people around me as to why I do this, and how the climate change is due to our way of living. I do not scare people nor do I try to make them guilty. I believe by making people more aware of this situation and by offering them simple ways they can change, we will be better off overall. I strongly encourage you to do the same to make real changes happening.
Perhaps.. however people should understand that whatever changes they might make themselves will not be nearly enough. We already lost ~20 years to recycling because boomers couldnt see through oil industry propaganda.
Record snowfalls everywhere this year, even in Northern Africa !😅
And still far more record warmth. It's about the average.
We're not supposed to talk about that.
The world was supposed to have ended sometime in the last year but didn't, again. 😁
@@illbeyourmonster1959 Good..amplify the stupid factor.
@@penguinuprighter6231 projectionism. really? how original. No wonder your claims never come true. 😴
@@illbeyourmonster1959 Not my claims mate.
Great video !!! very informative and helpful
Wow. Thank you for breaking down all this technical information for us.
Mister Think broke the technical information ?
@@grindupBaker lol
extinction rebellion is what im doing after having a think about what you said
Hey Dave, great work on this! All I had to do was take one look at the sea ice thickness of September of 2018 from Patrick McNulty, to be convinced that it'll happen by around 2023-2026.
The models are missing some crucial feedbacks when it comes to the melting arctic. As far as I understand, the main thing taken into account is the sea ice albedo feedback, which is probably the biggest or one of the most important factors, but not the only one.
If anyone is interested, I can look into my research notes and give some details on the other expected feedbacks at play which may explain why the arctic is heating up faster and losing ice faster than the models said they would.
*edit: I can provide sources as well for anyone that wants to look further
I'd love to see your source, I've been looking for real proof for the last year.
Thanks for your input Henrik. Definitely needed and valued.
Same here, feel free to share links and sources 🙏
Alright, I gotta read some papers real quick and I'll get back with some sources. I should have multiple excellent papers that dive pretty deep into this
check this paper out: It's an interesting one. If you wanna see the feedback I'm talking about, check out figure 7
*EDIT: Figure 7 in this paper shows feedback very clearly, and description is given below or above
Another great presentation. Convinced me to subscribe to your blog.
Amazing channel! Great work
"we're going to build a wall to keep the water out."
The duch did it, so...
@@notyou1877 the chinese also did it with the mongolians.
In an area built on coral sand and porous limestone. (Remember those gorgeous cave diving videos?) Salt water intrusion into Florida aquifers is already happening.
10:05 is particularly disturbing - only FIVE days ago (9 April 2019), and look at the reddish areas atin the North Pole. I wouldn't light any fires up there this summer - methane.
From the rotting plants that died when the area suddenly froze not that many generations ago.
GREAT explanation..great work, sir!
A very stoic, and well done presentation about our climate crisis. I've been a climate activist since 1995. To me, it feels like we're on the Titanic. The officers who command the ship won't listen, or don't care. The multi-millionaires/billionaires enjoy the voyage in First Class. Our gorgeously beautiful planet will survive. So now, the only relevant question is how to conduct ourselves until human civilization sinks into the chaos. Thank you Dave.
Thank you John. And thank you for your email, to which I have now replied. You are an inspirational man that we could all learn from. All the best. Dave
Have been eating plant-based for 4 years now (no meat or dairy). Stopped flying as of 2 years ago (no passport now). Have almost eliminated buying new "stuff" apart from food. Went with a green energy supplier (solar panels someday if I can ever afford it). Still use a small car, but working on that too.
Apple polisher
I hope for the return of Airships.
do you live in a house?
@@PISQUEFrancis Yes, unfortunately my attempt at transitioning to a recycled straw and hemp yurt ended in failure when the local marsh overflowed during heavy rain.
@@grindupBaker You've got to get the wax off somehow
Great job! Just as you, I also guess that many of the global players know about the unfolding climate-crash. But how on earth are they able, to still look so calm and confident within their daily affairs? Please help me to sort out this question.... ;)
Ninooo Compartmentalization
maybe they have some arrangement, the antarctic is owned by many countries, we have lots of life preserving technologies for the few that can afford them. they might concievably live in bunkers in antarctica while the world goes to hell
Currently the most sustainable diet is vegetarian, not vegan. Pasture is useless without livestock, so that shouldn't be a big surprise.
you have what it takes to inform the masses I will support you
Thanks Kenneth. Much appreciated. All the best. Dave
Great video as always, now we just need to get ALL the country's of the world to understand, mind you the Paris agreement doesn't seem to be doing a lot !
I doubt that we just need to get ALL the country's of the world to understand, If U.S. Americans & Chinese were gotten to understand enough that they wiped out the Russians then perhaps maybe mitigation. Luxembourg, Monaco, Chad, Peru, well whatever for them.
The goals set by Paris are far too low and we're not going to reach even those. Follow the "climate action tracker". It shows that the paris agreement would limit global temperature rise to AT BEST +2.4°C instead of the needed MAXIMUM of +2°C. Average case IF really done the paris agreement limits temperature rise to +3°C. Current policies however will make it +4.4°C (and that is a conservative estimate even tho Climat action tracker has that as their worst case).
This video is gold, go plant-based and let’s save this beautiful planet
Yes. WFPB (whole food plant based) diet with less than 10% of caloric intake from animal protein products.
@@billofjazz actually we don't need colesterol and estrogens and hormons from other animals. It's not efficient not only on an ecological level but even on the ratio very low in vitamins and mirelas and high in satured fats related to frequent diseases like heart failures due to the obstruction of the arteries.
We can thrive on a whole plant food diet and so we should allow to live freely our fellow animals
@@albertoscatto5796 It would be even healthier to only eat a WFPB diet.
@@billofjazz yep!
@@albertoscatto5796
Plants give you cancer
Pesticides give people cancer
8 billion people cannot buy 100% organic
Lettuce will not stop the Apocalypse
You give your money to meat eaters
To grows + harvest your vegies
Deliver them to you with the
Toxic deisel burning trucks
Without
Solving the Energy problem
Nothing will stop the Apocalypse
Veggies
Delievered in
Toxic fuel burning trucks
Also make the Artic ice melt
Thus:
Vegans are also killing polar bears
hi dave,i think this must be your best ever video...
i can tell you put a lot of time into this one...
do you know that with just one "feed back loop",we are up the creek without a paddle...
thank you dave,can't wait for your next video;-)))
Very very good and informative channel!
Those things are already happening the trends have been proven by concrete evidence.
We may just as well rename our planet "Dune".
I don't think they are talking about ice melting making more water vapor but as the ice melts it opens the ocean to the atmosphere.
Once again, such a good presentation and easy to understand and informative. And .... you mentioned plant-based eating!!! Well done!
The explanation is great! Two consequences were not mentioned:
1. Rapid climate change is the major cause of the sixth mass extinction. Personally, I do not know a word to describe the moral wrong this is. Think of genocide on the scale of billions of species that have existed for millions or billions of years. And practically, it may make growing our food impossible even in areas with now favorable climate.
2. A constant, intensifying struggle to grow food, get clean water, ration resources, accommodate refugees and defend our resources or conquer them from neighbors means we will devote most of our efforts to surviving. We will have almost no resources for designing and implementing lasting solutions. And a state constant of conflict will unravel civilization into barbarism. Some humans might survive for a while in isolated automated and fortified enclaves, but for how long is debatable. However, tension and conflict multiplies the risk of nuclear war. (Nuclear weapons are still proliferating around the world.) No humans will survive that.
The call to action is pitiful. Yes, we must band with our neighbors and minimize our own effects. But the problem is far grater than we can solve by individual responsible consumerism. We must demand of our governments at all levels to make laws and invest in emission-free energy, to electrify our economies and everyday world. We must dismantle the politico-economic-cultural system that perpetuates emissions. When we have stopped emitting, we must frantically remove the already emitted greenhouse gases. AFAIK, there is no proven cheap way to do that. It requires research which will take decades, and massive investment.
Anyone seen the movie 'merchants of doubt'?
Live the BLOCK BLUE OCEAN EVENT
is a movie that needs to happen?
thanks for your work ...
REMAKE this one please! it is fantastic. It needs a newer date of production