For anyone just coming here that doesn't already know, you can now get all your machine times displayed, yay! Go to preferences -> manufacture-> Show Operation Machine Time. This will show the times for each operation right in the titles.
Hi John, there is easy way to check machining time in fusion 360: Run all setup simulation, and in bottom of the screen there is time line (dark gray color bars) move the mouse on that line and you will see different operation machining time and other information.
I haven't done NEARLY enough work involving heights, clearances, and selecting the start height of helicals and bores. Thanks for showing me some easy ways to reduce machining time!
Hi John. Your process reminds me a lot about optimizing computer code. And you're right; don't focus on the fact that you saved 2 minutes, focus on making the process steps more efficient. This pays bigger dividends regardless of whether you have a Tormach 770, or a huge mega-multi-axis CNC machine that takes up half a warehouse! Work smarter, not harder! :)
Interesting idea using the setup sheet. I've always run a SIM and then looked at the bottom scroll bar, where each of the ops on the horizontal is color coded, and then looked to reduce the largest op blocks first. Not as explicit as using the setup sheet but it is a super quick way to attain a visual rep of the time allocations for the different ops. Thanks for the tips.
I've made a special post processor/Setup sheet that shows a pie chart of the operations time. For this kind of question it works amazing: forums.autodesk.com/t5/hsm-post-processor-forum/pie-chart-of-operation-machining-time-in-excel-setup-sheet/m-p/6821340/highlight/true#M12315
Business-type question.. when you quote work, do you use the fusion estimates to quote machine time or do you ball park it based on personal experience?
another way to save time on ops is to make sure your stay down is set higher. and keep your clearance heights low to the part surface. this can save you a ton of cycle time. especially in production runs while multiple holes to drill or pockets to machine.
You could reduce tool clearance retraction so the tools are just clearing the job and there's lest distance to rapid. It's not so time saving in small opps but can save quite a bit of time in longer opps
Hey John, I see you always leave no engagement feed rate. I know it's not always about speed but as much as we all use 2d adaptive you can save time by upping the no engagement feed rate. My machine rapids at 180 ipm in Z and 220 ipm x and y. I usually set no engagement at 150ipm and it speeds things up quite a bit.
So is there anyway to increase the speed when using the boring same type hole option? It uses the same speed as when it's machining to jog to the next same hole type location. May obvious but I'm missing it. Thanks.
In HSM when you simulate the entire job, it gives you a progress bar on the bottom that is coloured to each tool. Not an exact way to see the time for each process, but you can quickly see which process is talking the longest.
That long thin cutter at the end would shatter like crazy if you try to finish the sides in one go. Also, have you checked if the flutes are even long enough? Had done something recently with an 1/8" two flute with overlength (over 1 1/8" stickout) and the shattering was horrible, even though I just machined delrin. Keep that in mind.
Klaufmann depends on step over, feeds etc. I regularly run long flute 6mm endmills full depth 2x manufacturer spec in steel. Why? They're cheap and adaptive allows it.
I have extensive experience with both. Fusion (or in my case Inventor) and don't look back or at least if you don't need to control every aspect of every cut. I really don't.
excellent vid! often it's the little things.
For anyone just coming here that doesn't already know, you can now get all your machine times displayed, yay! Go to preferences -> manufacture-> Show Operation Machine Time. This will show the times for each operation right in the titles.
Hi John, there is easy way to check machining time in fusion 360:
Run all setup simulation, and in bottom of the screen there is time line (dark gray color bars) move the mouse on that line and you will see different operation machining time and other information.
I haven't done NEARLY enough work involving heights, clearances, and selecting the start height of helicals and bores. Thanks for showing me some easy ways to reduce machining time!
Hi John. Your process reminds me a lot about optimizing computer code. And you're right; don't focus on the fact that you saved 2 minutes, focus on making the process steps more efficient. This pays bigger dividends regardless of whether you have a Tormach 770, or a huge mega-multi-axis CNC machine that takes up half a warehouse! Work smarter, not harder! :)
Interesting idea using the setup sheet. I've always run a SIM and then looked at the bottom scroll bar, where each of the ops on the horizontal is color coded, and then looked to reduce the largest op blocks first. Not as explicit as using the setup sheet but it is a super quick way to attain a visual rep of the time allocations for the different ops.
Thanks for the tips.
I've made a special post processor/Setup sheet that shows a pie chart of the operations time.
For this kind of question it works amazing: forums.autodesk.com/t5/hsm-post-processor-forum/pie-chart-of-operation-machining-time-in-excel-setup-sheet/m-p/6821340/highlight/true#M12315
Time is money, so this video was pure gold!!!
Thanks!!!
machine time display is added in tools operation menu is available in newer version though preferences settings. seems your suggestion is accepted 😀
Business-type question.. when you quote work, do you use the fusion estimates to quote machine time or do you ball park it based on personal experience?
another way to save time on ops is to make sure your stay down is set higher. and keep your clearance heights low to the part surface. this can save you a ton of cycle time. especially in production runs while multiple holes to drill or pockets to machine.
You could reduce tool clearance retraction so the tools are just clearing the job and there's lest distance to rapid. It's not so time saving in small opps but can save quite a bit of time in longer opps
This channel is so helpful and all for free!
I agree, good housekeeping can save a mountain of time in a year.
Hey John, I see you always leave no engagement feed rate. I know it's not always about speed but as much as we all use 2d adaptive you can save time by upping the no engagement feed rate. My machine rapids at 180 ipm in Z and 220 ipm x and y. I usually set no engagement at 150ipm and it speeds things up quite a bit.
So is there anyway to increase the speed when using the boring same type hole option? It uses the same speed as when it's machining to jog to the next same hole type location. May obvious but I'm missing it. Thanks.
In HSM when you simulate the entire job, it gives you a progress bar on the bottom that is coloured to each tool. Not an exact way to see the time for each process, but you can quickly see which process is talking the longest.
great example of saving time machining parts, saving a minute per part making 1000 is a HUGE deal
That long thin cutter at the end would shatter like crazy if you try to finish the sides in one go. Also, have you checked if the flutes are even long enough? Had done something recently with an 1/8" two flute with overlength (over 1 1/8" stickout) and the shattering was horrible, even though I just machined delrin. Keep that in mind.
Klaufmann depends on step over, feeds etc. I regularly run long flute 6mm endmills full depth 2x manufacturer spec in steel. Why? They're cheap and adaptive allows it.
Great video, thanks for sharing! I use adaptive clearing all the time, it is a amazing strategy!
Have you use CamWorks? If so what do you think about it?
Does it show machine times under compare and edit?
Nice video again John
very helpful tips
Also the open pocket on the right needs a partial chain to do just the vertical walls, and not treat it as a pocket finish pass.
You should send this to AutoDesk and ask them to update their demo template. Haha Nice Job
Another awesome vid, thanks!
Watching this on thursday
Don't have a clue what you are saying but still enjoy the process. 🙂🙂
Which one is better between Fusion 360 and SpurtCAM?
Fusion 360 no doubt about that
I have extensive experience with both. Fusion (or in my case Inventor) and don't look back or at least if you don't need to control every aspect of every cut. I really don't.
The dislikes are all the old school machinist that hate high speed Machining
i wanted to see the machining as well haha
Спасибо за урок
Or that's how I would do it in Mastercam.