This is one of the major problems in linux world, people tend to have extreme opinions towards some stuff even if they didn't learn it properly. It's near impossible to get fair reviews or advice from people.
Minimizing is doable 4 ways: - Super+H. - Right click titlebar and Hide. - Hold Super and right click anywhere inside the window and Hide. - Enable minimize button in Tweaks. Even with all that I don't minimize anything. It is way better to just create a new workspace (doable with keybinds). Speaking of "holding Super". Try to hold Super and then click and drag with left or middle (aka wheel) mouse buttons anywhere inside a window. Mind blown yet? Now try holding Super, hovering over the top bar of the screen, and then scrolling the mouse wheel. Workspace switching! Alternatively, use Super+PageUp/Down. Or Super+Shift+PageUp/Down to move the window to another workspace. Now try Super+Right Click anywhere inside a window and pick Always on Top and On Every Workspace. You now have a floating window. Most of this is customizable via the Settings panel for keybinds. As for making it a bit more usable, the vitals are: - Dash to Dock (use Fedora's native package for it, do `dnf se "*dash*dock*"`, it's super well maintained and works better than the official release) - Blur My Shell - AppIndicators - Tiling Assistant (learn its shortcuts for tiling); alternatively Pop Shell to force everything to always tile, but I dislike that since only a few apps benefit from tiling. There are also nice extras such as Espresso, Pano, ddterm, etc. But I don't consider those vitals. Try these suggestions. Your experience will be better.
@@TheLinuxCast Ah right. Yeah I have been thinking about that too. It probably should be enabled by default to help people since it is an unusual workflow. I never hide things on Gnome. And I double-click the title bars to maximize things. It means I never use those buttons. But my 70 year old mom was greatly helped by enabling the buttons. Anyway, I edited again with some more tips above. You could check some of that stuff out. It really takes Gnome to the "oh I get the workflow now" level. 😂👍
@@TheLinuxCast Forgot one way to switch workspaces which I use a lot: Tap Super once to bring up the overview. Then just scroll the mouse wheel to switch. And then left click to go there. Speaking of the overview. You can drag the miniature windows and drop them on other workspaces or even between workspaces to create new ones anywhere in the order. I think Gnome definitely needs to educate users better about how to use it. You are right that the tutorial is useless.
@@faustipez Glad it helped. They are the kinds of workflow shortcuts that made me fall in love with Linux and leave Windows. Definitely try Tiling Assistant too and the other extensions I recommended. But particularly that one. It is incredibly good. You can tile exactly the windows you want. It can be mouse and keyboard driven (you can tile and switch focus entirely via the keyboard). The tiles become grouped with each other, so focusing one app in a group also brings up the other tiles in the group to ensure your "work group" always stays active. You can resize the corners of tiles and everything else in the group automatically resizes too. It's absolutely brilliant. Way better than Pop Shell. Most of the time you just want to tile related windows such as a code editor, file manager and a browser for previewing your code. This allows you to do that kind of tiling without affecting all your other apps. But even if you don't like tiling, it still makes Gnome tiling better by adding more drop zones and making it easier to tile apps side by side via automatically suggested apps to tile. Such a good extension! And Pano, if you never heard of it, is a really beautiful clipboard history manager. It allows you to copy and paste multiple things at the same time. Really handy when you get used to it!
I don't use Gnome, but I get it. I get why it really works for some people. The people who praise it because it "stays out of the way". They're not busy customizing everything, ricing, tweaking settings. They just want to use the software programs installed on their computer to do things, and everything else is secondary. They don't want to think about the operating system all the time. I use KDE myself, and thankfully have had no problems with it (except on a VM recently). I think it just boils down to the question, how do you want to use your computer? Gnome is one way, KDE is another, Tiling WM is yet another.
@@Tippotipo I'm glad you asked! Did you know that on gnome issues page there is a request for nautilus to remember per folder view mode configuration that's been sitting there for 10 years? Thats right the request has been around for 10 years and gnome developers have been sitting on it like the idea that nautilus only needed the stupid global view mode for all folders like folders were all always the same was the best idea ever. THATS BASIC functionality! Oh yeah and when you ask them do you know what they say? "View mode is just one click away" MF never really used the thing to REALLY manage files and folder I'm freaking sure so there you go bud basic functionality. And before you acuse me of being a KDE fanboy let me tell you I'm not if anything I'm more aligned with gnome and budgie than anything else. I hate kde for it's cluttermess and its "if there are multiple ways of solving one simple problem lets make them all available" mentality but then again gnome IS LACKING basic functionality.
Gnome is my main desktop environment, the distraction-free workflow and minimalist approach is absolutely fantastic. I've tried several window Managers and whilst they are good for tiling windows, the convenience of having a full feature set, support and integration of a desktop environment is something that I can't live without. Also, you can toggle the tiling functionality whenever you want with Pop Shell extension. I would even challenge you to switch completely to Gnome on your main PC and set it up the way you like, use it for a few weeks and make a video about your experience as your daily driver.
I avoided GNOME for years because I listened to all the people who hated on it for various reasons. Then I realized it was the closest thing to the Mac-like experience I was looking for. Once I learned about GNOME extensions KDE fell by the wayside for me. You can customize the heck out of KDE but it’s just too complicated. A lot of those still hating on GNOME just haven’t used it for years, or don’t realize how many extensions are available.
Please don't use silly words like "hate" when it comes to software because only spoilt brats go through life hating everything. I avoid GNOME, since GNOME 2 it has not appealed to me or to my workflow - but its mere existence does not stop me using something else instead and therefore because GNOME has no impact on how I use Linux, I can simply ignore it. But I've no reason to hate it or any other software that I simply choose not to use. So please credit most people with some maturity here - and I think your use of the word indicates some immaturity on your part because it says to me that you're trying a bit too hard to prove to the rest of the world how your choice of desktop is "the only way to do things" and that everyone else is somehow wrong ("just a hater") if they do anything differently to you. Computing is not about "fashion" and trying to impress your peers who happen to be looking over your shoulder. It is about productivity, entertainment and, most importantly, having a fun hobby that for fortunate people like me also becomes your day job that provides you with a good living.
They made an entire desktop where you only need to remember one button and people think it’s unintuitive? I got pop shell and a few extensions and it’s great for productivity
Think of the desktop as a curtain and the overview as the "accessible desktop" . And the thing about minimize button, you don't need it because gnome is focused on workspaces and it highlights it, so if you want something in a clear desktop with all apps running in the background, just flip the page and use another workspace. At least that's what I think and use it that way.
Forgot to say something important, but I guess you have heard already: Georges Stavracas, an utter genius, has rewritten the GTK file picker portal. They are having a merge party somewhere around today. It is now gonna be a fantastic file picker. It will be in the next GTK 4 release and will be installable on Fedora earlier than that if someone makes a COPR for it. All GTK4 apps will automatically use that new file picker after you update GTK. (And no GTK3 is not included. It was hellish enough for them to rewrite 30 years of deeply intertwined code in GTK4 to achieve the new file picker. The proper solution for GTK3 apps is to stop being GTK3 apps and upgrade to GTK4. ;)) Although I think they said that every Flatpak app automatically uses the GTK4 file picker via the portal protocol no matter what the app is written in. Which would ease the transition.
@@sampantojapa Haha yes exactly! It is ending now. On Georges Stavracas UA-cam channel you can see the new file picker in a video titled "death of the meme".
Tried vanilla Gnome and was impressed with its stark simplicity. Takes about 10 seconds to figure out. Fling the cursor into the corner and roll your mouse wheel. Not giving up Zorin Core tho. Too pretty and too easy to use with just the right amount of features. And I like my $16 Logitech Productivity Plus mouse. Used Input Remapper to make the side buttons to volume up/down, the tilt wheel do forward/back and the middle button do F5. I can rest my cursor on the Workspace Indicator extension and roll through my workspaces with each click of the wheel. They flip up and down, BTW, and full screen, which seems more efficient. And I like that anyone can sit down at one of my computers and use it since it basically looks like Win11. Stayed with Chrome too. Not really paranoid about Google since they already spy on me via my phone. Good to get away from Windows bloat tho, and the constant nagging. Not to mention its refusal to install on my machines without a hack.
The work Zorin does is beautiful. I don't use their distro but I adore their desktop style switcher. Such a great idea and definitely worth it if you like Ubuntu based systems.
There is no minimize in GNOME - what are you 'minimizing' to? The taskbar? There is no taskbar. You can hide it by clicking Super + H. That is the closest to minimize. The better thing to do is what you would do in i3 - go to a new desktop and open a new window and leave the other window on the previous desktop. Or, if you don't need it, close it. The close button is always there.
100% with the workflow being similar to that of a standalone window manager. I came to gnome after daily driving qtile for a few months and it just clicked. I'd missed the convenience of a desktop environment. I use gnome on my laptop and desktop and it works great for both. On laptop I use a lot of gestures to navigate, whereas on desktop I navigate mainly with the keyboard. Both methods feel very natural with gnome. Pro tip for those than can't go without tiling: you can install pop-shell extension on basically any distro (but you have to install as a package, it isn't in the typical gnome extensions repository) and get tiling and keyboard navigation similar to a tiling window manager. My only gripe with gnome is the resource usage.
I hated Gnome with a passion for years. Couldn't understand how people could use it and not scream all day long. I could sort of use it if I installed 100 extensions... but I ended up with more or less a Plasma desktop with all those installed so I just ran Plasma instead. About 1-1,5 months ago I started using it as a "daily driver" just to try to see what the fuzz was all about (since many people use it) and I've turned around. I sighed and rolled my eyes many times in the beginning but, now I love it. Sure, it has some flaws (nothing really major though), but so does the other desktop environments.
Great video, I share most of the comment and your keep it positive makes it a gem ! GNOME being my main driver coming from MacBook, I was using spotlight search a lot and it came naturally when I switched, I know it’s quite different but using the keyboard only is key on what I do daily
GNOME + Pop Shell and bunch of little extensions and bunch of dconf tweaking makes it work almost exactly like i3. Actually, this is what led me back to using actual i3. But if you are for some reason stuck on GNOME (or want convenience of pre-built DE), you still can make your workflow really good. Only thing GNOME lacks vs. i3 (other than being far from lightweight and having to use GNOME tools most of the time) is lack of workspace per screen option. On POP OS you actually don't need to delve too deep into dconf tweaking because it comes with Pop Shell options already there and it's easier to edit, otherwise you need to add them manually (like keybindings) to be able to change them. It's also less likely to be broken (like Material Shell), because it's maintained by hardware manufacturer.
pop shell provides a rudimentary tiling facility to gnome. it doesn't yet save sessions or anything but if you want some tiling in gnome, you can have it within a minute or two
That's a great video, Matt! GNOME may not be the best for you, but it's always good to have open mind and understand what's good about it. After all, it means that Linux users have really good choices when it comes to DEs and can find one which suits them the most. I'd say that GNOME is both keyboard- *and* workspaces-centric. That's why it has no visible minimize button by default: if you don't want to see a window then either close it or switch to a new workspace which is always there for you. While I agree that GNOME is more efficient when using keyboard, I'd be okay with using mouse as well. The hot corner makes it so I can quickly throw the cursor somewhere up-left and not think about it rather than target a specific button. It's a quick gesture which doesn't even require looking. Having said that I mostly use the Super key. I somewhat agree about discoverability. They're trying to make it better by providing the tour app which actually tells you to press the Super key to get into the overview, and by making the overview open by default at startup, but it could be more integrated and interactive.
I was never a GNOME guy. For most of my time with Linux I used XFCE. At that time I couldn't understand how you can be productive with such a minimalistic interface. I thought that a useful desktop needed at least one panel with every information you can fit in it: a clock, a list of application windows, workspaces, systray, system monitors, quick start, weather preview, bookmarks, application menu, nearly every panel applet availlable needs to be visible all the time. But a few years ago I gave gnome a chance. To my surprise i got into the interface quite easy and I learned to appreciate the distraction free approach. I also learned to like the lack of customization. I was always a fan of costumization. But I think I spend too much time with trying to "perfect" my desktop experience. That put me under some kind of pressure. Recently I was trying some KDE just for fun. And while I was working myself through the settings I realised that I just tried to replicate the gnome experience because the GNOME workflow became second nature to me that I didn't want to change away from it.
I don't know what it is exactly about GNOME that makes it so RAM-hungry on most distros, but I will say that I've used GNOME on two different laptops both running Gentoo and in both cases it was only using about 400-450 MB on a fresh boot
I've loved Gnome for a long time. It's funny. I started with Gnome in my Linux journey when I started learning to code until I found r/unixporn. I was totally captivated by how much you could customize and personalize a tiling window manager. I switched to arch/i3 and learned a ton. Then switched Awesome-wm which is the pinnacle of tiling window managers in my opinion. After a while, the insane customization became less important for me as I started actually having a real developmment workflow. I switched back to gnome and set a lot of my tiling window manager key-bindings and used them in gnome and I have found a new appreciation for it for sure. I went from arch/twm/alacritty to Ubuntu22.1/gnome/guake.
ddterm for drop down term in Gnome is really good. It's customizable and Wayland capable. Tiling Assistant and Pop Shell are the best Tiling extensions. I greatly prefer Tiling Assistant (good keybinds and I can choose to tile only what needs to be tiled).
I used Gnome for a few months as a daily driver, and as a tiling manager guy (using xmonad, awesome, leftwm, i3) I actually loved it. After I setup the keybindings, it was really great to use. But, I used Forge to have a TWM feel to it, but it was buggy, and loading properly and had to manually restart it a tons of times. And customization is awful, I tried using the dracula theme and I have got weird glitches all over the place. But I got to learn Sway after had enough, of those small issues, which is a really nice experience for me. If the gnome team ever fixes the customization and tiling I will go back to it. But I think the Cosmic desktop will be ready before (or wayland xfce).
Dracula Theme: - Install adw-gtk3 and then install adw-colors Dracula. I use it. It is a perfect theme. No glitches. Tiling: - Tiling Assistant: The best. - Pop Shell: The other alternative. I left another comment with more suggestions on this video. Find that if you wanna try a few more things.
@@MyAmazingUsername I actually loved the pop shell (pop os was my first distro), does it work in gnome wayland? but I will check the theming and the suggestions, thanks
@@attilasedon9593 Yeah they worked on Wayland support a year ago. Pop Shell works in Wayland now. What I dislike about it is that it's tiling everything automatically which isn't really optimal on a desktop where you open toolbox popups, setting dialogs etc. You can set exceptions though but I never got that far since I couldn't stand it. I prefer Tiling Assistant because it has keyboard driven Tiling that is opt-in where you basically hit something like Super+Numpad direction to throw an app into a tile, and then it auto suggests apps to put in the other tiles. It also has smart grouping where resizing any of the tiles windows will resize all of the others (even during corner resizing) which worked better than POP Shell last time I tried it. I recommend trying Tiling Assistant first and using its settings to configure the shortcuts you like! But I guess if you prefer a fully enforced tiler that is globally on or off for every window then Pop Shell is for you! :)
@@attilasedon9593 For theming you just install adw-gtk3, and then you add the adw-colors Dracula CSS file to the GTK3 and GTK4 folders, and run a command to make that folder r visible to flatpaks too. It is all documented in the adw-colors instructions. :) Alternatively, use the Gradience app to create and tweak your own color theme based on the same adw-gtk3 base.
@@attilasedon9593 You could check out the Tilix terminal too. It is absolutely amazing and eliminates most of the need for desktop wide Tiling. I have all of my tiled terminals and groups of terminal tiles inside 1 app window.
You're getting old, Matt. It's not about ricing and driving blazingly fast wm's anymore. Now you're more interested in comfort and stability! (just kidding)
Gnome is awesome for notebooks with good trackpads. Gestures are really the best feature, and the UI is also optimized really well. I no longer use my mouse even at home, and that's a really good stuff that unlocks an ability to work literally everywhere. You can chill on a beach or go to a coffee shop, take a cup of whatever toy want and do your stuff there.
Dude! I dont even know you anymore! ROFL. Surprisingly I've found myself saying the same thing. I've been using it for work daily (Ubuntu's version of it) since 20.10 came out. I still dont like how it sucks a ton more of resources. So I use Ubuntu Studio (which is Kubuntu) for creating content and stuff. But the majority of time lately I find myself just hanging out in Ubuntu 20.10. The other thing that bugs me is that I cant get a wallpaper to span without using a 3rd party app. But you are right about the keyboard. It is the way to use it and you would think that the tiling features would be more integrated instead of needing to use an extension. But KDE is currently the same situation. Thank you for the video and keep hauling ass with them!
I'm pleased that you have decided to learn about gnome a bit now. You have a long way to go but it's a start. I am happy to have a user environment that rethinks of use in a different way than ms and apple. You still have some key misunderstandings but whatever. I don't watch your vids for your opinions. To me, you'd do better to focus on bringing out information that helps us and less on opinions.
there is no minimize button because there is nothing on the desktop. you don't need minimize for the gnome workflow, just like you don't need one on a TLM workflow.
I'm a broken record at this point, but I'll say it again: Gnome is by far the best-looking DE on Linux, and it's guaranteed (imo) to be what attracts new normie users. I'm still an i3-wm user and will be for the foreseeable future, but if I had to go back to using a desktop environment, it would be good ol' Gnome, no question.
Hey off topic, but pls help if you can. I installed alacritty on Garuda, (kde plasma) but I can’t change the font size. I have searched everywhere for answers, tried the 2 suggestions I found, and still can’t figure it out. It doesn’t have a menu bar, I can’t right click on the screen to bring up the “change profile or edit” like with konsole terminal. Thanks 👍
All of alacritty's settings are done in a config file inside of $HOME/.config/alacritty/alacritty.yml If you do not have this, you'll need to find the default one. You can google that and probably find it. When you do find it, just create alacritty.yml inside the .config/alacritty folder. Then open that in a text editor. The first few lines have to do with fonts, you can change the size there.
@@TheLinuxCast awesome! Thanks, I’ll search for the default file, coz I didn’t have that directory and didn’t want to “arch” my back and break something😁 Tysm
@@-someone-. it should be somewhere on your system too. You can just do locate alacrity.yml and that should tell you where it's at if you can't find it online.
I was always a Gnome person, but Linux was always my secondary operating system. After Gnome 40, Linux became my primary OS. My Windows partition is mostly for gaming.
I have tried Gnome many, MANY times, and every time I go back to either Plasma or LXQT or Enlightenment.....Gnome desktop layout, icons, general workflow makes me feel like the devs think all users are 12 years old kids
I started using Linux after Gnome 3 released and have pretty much used it. I still get hastled for it. I install Tweaks and always install the Dark Cyan theme on my systems.
I bet you could get Plasma to look and behave like gnome much more easily than the other way around. So probably all the niceties of gnome could be replicated some way in Plasma, but be a nightmare to take away what you dislike about gnome, in gnome.
cinnamon is amazing. easily customizable and keybindings that make it keyboard centric and allows for minimizing apps. also takes up less memory space than KDE or GNOME and prettier than xfce. also nemo file manager does averything you like about krusader. you probably already took a look at it but thought I would mention it just in case.
gnome was my first DE on linux, the way i see it, gnome looks like a desktop tablet. with the application menu reminded me of the way windows 8.1 worked. which i liked over the traditional just cause i thought it was boring i've never used mac or anything. but the way DT "distrotube" explained something about how on ubuntu with there sidebar with stuff being on the left side. i like having the panel on top with the application menu on the left with tthe sys tray just to close apps like discord and to get to next cloud. i like TWM's but at the end of the day im not quite that nerdy, so for me gnome i can use keybinds that way with the few apps i use. as im kind of a casual computer user especially on an old laptop can't really do alot.
Gnome is just so well made and polished compared to everything else for me. I can't consider switching away. It just does what it is supposed to. Looks pretty, elegant and modern whilst doing it and doesn't give me problems. The people working on it really seem to prioritize the greater future of the project too.
The simplicity and clean look from Gnome is a thing of beauty. Honestly I am leaning towards using Gnome without any extensions whatsoever each update, not because it breaks them, but because the Gnome team is getting things right.
Yeah this depends on a lot of things. GTK 3 VS 4, Xorg vs Wayland etc. It is complicated. But I will say this: It works perfectly in- and between- GTK 4 apps, and those are becoming more and more common. When all popular apps are GTK4 it will work excellently.
I never could get into Gnome. I've tried with Ubuntu, Fedora, even installing Arch in a VM. It never felt right. Then again, I never thought about it from a tiling window manager perspective. I might set up a distro with Gnome in a VM just to play around with it. (I switch between Arch and Fedora, I'm currently running the Cinnamon spin of Fedora.) And I never could pronounce the G in Gnome. It feels wrong to me, like pronouncing the P in psych. But hey, to-MAY-to, to-MAH-to. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Great video as always!
The only thing one needs to get familiar with is the Super key. Almost all of my interactions with Gnome begins with pressing the Super key. It is really that simple. The USP of Gnome is that it gets out of the way of the user. Totally distraction free. Not much of customizability is also part of that. But whatever is customizable can easily be done via gsettings.
@@vanadium4167 Different work flow I guess. For me, since I am also a regular user of tiling window managers, using the Super key for window management is kind of natural for me.
GNOME is a must if you have a touchscreen. Nothing else comes close. I was an XFCE user but now turned fully to GNOME. Never liked KDE cause all those settings are frustrating AF!!!
ive only ever used gnome, since 97/98.. and i'll never ever call it ga-nome. its been the only DE i've ever really used. I try KDE every now and again.. but i go right back to gnome. i was almost lured away from gnome by I3wm, but eventually came right back to gnome.
Like what you like, Linux is about choice. I gave up with GNOME when it went from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3 because there are only two types of desktop environments that I like now anyway - either a simple "Windows Classic-like" GUI that just gives me access to my applications and stays out of the way otherwise, or a tiling window manager. After GNOME 2 I tried MATE for a while but it was going through a phase of being extremely buggy, so then went over to XFCE which I have essentially stuck with now - although I am using i3 more and more anyway. I see people using the GNOME 40 series in videos today but to me it's all "meh" - I've seen it all before and it just seems to be burning a whole lot of additional CPU cycles for eye candy. But, like I said, if it works for you then go have fun.
I've been distro and environment hopping all year, and I keep coming back to Fedora's out of box Gnome for being the best basic experience for me. I've quite enjoyed using Hyprland, but I'm not ready to put in the effort in customising bars, lock screens, menus, etc. There's an overwhelming amount of things and options, where Gnome is pretty much ready to go.
You changed and GNOME changed. Linux is about choice :) In regards to Gnome I hear what you are saying and agree what the correct pronunciation is but it is their own fault for choosing a real word that is pronounced a certain way for an acronym. The whole "GNU is not Unix" (GNU) is bad, especially when gnu is a real animal. At least they upper cased GNU. GNU Network Object Model Environment (GNOME) should at least be always upper case to distinguish from the real life word. Great channel and post ... have a great day!
I feel guilthy using gnome with dash 2 dock and around 10+ extensions as i don't use Gnome as its meant to be used, well maybe one day i'll learn how to use it properly but for now as a new linux user my gnome tweaked with some extension has became very convenient and user friendly for me and i really like it like this on my Garuda system. Good video as always i always learn some few more essential things with ur videos ty for that !
Before Version 40, there was virtually no consistency anywhere with GNOME. I will never go back to GNOME 3.x, that was a horrid, stuck-up mess. Libadwaita is annoying, but you temper your expectations with the least mature GTK release series to date. Version 43 is to the point where everything on the surface is consistent. Now to deal with the window decorations kerfuffle.
The thing about Gnome is, your hate it, or love it. IMHO You can not change it much to your own liking. I am a KDE Plasma user and my Desktop is actually quit similar as Gnome. Very clean, with a panel at the top, and a dock at the bottom, no icons on my screen. And I use a lot of key-bindings. But I also use the mouse a lot. I did try Gnome (Not for a few hours, but several weeks) and I actually liked it, and if Gnome was the only DE out there, I would be happy using it. And I even think that on a laptop Gnome is better then KDE But I am on a desktop, and like using mouse and keyboard, like to see where my program goes if I minimize it,etc And I know there are a lot of extensions, but they are not a part of Gnome. I think I have the best of 2 worlds on Plasma, but you need time to customize it I do think that Gnome is getting better , and maybe in the future I will switch. But as a 50+ old guy that used a mouse most of his life, I feel a little out of place in Gnome
Nope, Gnome is like a garden Gnome to me. Not with a hard G. But that's just me. Both ways are correct. But since it's *your* video, you can say it with a hard G. Just saying. :-D
@@thingsiplay Mac has better design than GNOME, but GNOME has better window management than Mac. I definitely wish GNOME copied more of the beauty of Mac.
This is one of the major problems in linux world, people tend to have extreme opinions towards some stuff even if they didn't learn it properly.
It's near impossible to get fair reviews or advice from people.
Minimizing is doable 4 ways:
- Super+H.
- Right click titlebar and Hide.
- Hold Super and right click anywhere inside the window and Hide.
- Enable minimize button in Tweaks.
Even with all that I don't minimize anything. It is way better to just create a new workspace (doable with keybinds).
Speaking of "holding Super". Try to hold Super and then click and drag with left or middle (aka wheel) mouse buttons anywhere inside a window. Mind blown yet?
Now try holding Super, hovering over the top bar of the screen, and then scrolling the mouse wheel. Workspace switching! Alternatively, use Super+PageUp/Down. Or Super+Shift+PageUp/Down to move the window to another workspace.
Now try Super+Right Click anywhere inside a window and pick Always on Top and On Every Workspace. You now have a floating window.
Most of this is customizable via the Settings panel for keybinds.
As for making it a bit more usable, the vitals are:
- Dash to Dock (use Fedora's native package for it, do `dnf se "*dash*dock*"`, it's super well maintained and works better than the official release)
- Blur My Shell
- AppIndicators
- Tiling Assistant (learn its shortcuts for tiling); alternatively Pop Shell to force everything to always tile, but I dislike that since only a few apps benefit from tiling.
There are also nice extras such as Espresso, Pano, ddterm, etc. But I don't consider those vitals.
Try these suggestions. Your experience will be better.
Oh, I know it's possible, that's not what I meant, I mean to add in the button. Sorry, should have been specific.
@@TheLinuxCast Ah right. Yeah I have been thinking about that too. It probably should be enabled by default to help people since it is an unusual workflow. I never hide things on Gnome. And I double-click the title bars to maximize things. It means I never use those buttons.
But my 70 year old mom was greatly helped by enabling the buttons.
Anyway, I edited again with some more tips above. You could check some of that stuff out. It really takes Gnome to the "oh I get the workflow now" level. 😂👍
@@TheLinuxCast Forgot one way to switch workspaces which I use a lot: Tap Super once to bring up the overview. Then just scroll the mouse wheel to switch. And then left click to go there.
Speaking of the overview. You can drag the miniature windows and drop them on other workspaces or even between workspaces to create new ones anywhere in the order.
I think Gnome definitely needs to educate users better about how to use it. You are right that the tutorial is useless.
Wow. I didn't know about all of these shortcuts. They are really useful, thank you 🥰🙏
@@faustipez Glad it helped. They are the kinds of workflow shortcuts that made me fall in love with Linux and leave Windows.
Definitely try Tiling Assistant too and the other extensions I recommended. But particularly that one. It is incredibly good. You can tile exactly the windows you want. It can be mouse and keyboard driven (you can tile and switch focus entirely via the keyboard). The tiles become grouped with each other, so focusing one app in a group also brings up the other tiles in the group to ensure your "work group" always stays active. You can resize the corners of tiles and everything else in the group automatically resizes too.
It's absolutely brilliant. Way better than Pop Shell. Most of the time you just want to tile related windows such as a code editor, file manager and a browser for previewing your code. This allows you to do that kind of tiling without affecting all your other apps. But even if you don't like tiling, it still makes Gnome tiling better by adding more drop zones and making it easier to tile apps side by side via automatically suggested apps to tile. Such a good extension!
And Pano, if you never heard of it, is a really beautiful clipboard history manager. It allows you to copy and paste multiple things at the same time. Really handy when you get used to it!
On fedora, when you login it defaults to the activities view so the first thing you see is the dock to select an application and start working.
I don't use Gnome, but I get it. I get why it really works for some people. The people who praise it because it "stays out of the way". They're not busy customizing everything, ricing, tweaking settings. They just want to use the software programs installed on their computer to do things, and everything else is secondary. They don't want to think about the operating system all the time.
I use KDE myself, and thankfully have had no problems with it (except on a VM recently). I think it just boils down to the question, how do you want to use your computer? Gnome is one way, KDE is another, Tiling WM is yet another.
I love vanilla Gnome and especially the dock NOT being default. It feels fresh, clean and ahead of every other OS
I moved to tiling so don't use it anymore but even so I still 100% agree to this. Vanilla Gnome is the best DE out there by miles 👍
Ok hold it right there. Gnome feels ahead how? By neglecting basic functionality? Damn dude lets not get carried away here please
@@sampantojapa Could you list that basic functionality?
"ahead of every OS"
Every other OS lets you change settings without having to install gnome extensions
@@Tippotipo I'm glad you asked! Did you know that on gnome issues page there is a request for nautilus to remember per folder view mode configuration that's been sitting there for 10 years? Thats right the request has been around for 10 years and gnome developers have been sitting on it like the idea that nautilus only needed the stupid global view mode for all folders like folders were all always the same was the best idea ever. THATS BASIC functionality! Oh yeah and when you ask them do you know what they say? "View mode is just one click away" MF never really used the thing to REALLY manage files and folder I'm freaking sure so there you go bud basic functionality. And before you acuse me of being a KDE fanboy let me tell you I'm not if anything I'm more aligned with gnome and budgie than anything else. I hate kde for it's cluttermess and its "if there are multiple ways of solving one simple problem lets make them all available" mentality but then again gnome IS LACKING basic functionality.
Gnome is my main desktop environment, the distraction-free workflow and minimalist approach is absolutely fantastic. I've tried several window Managers and whilst they are good for tiling windows, the convenience of having a full feature set, support and integration of a desktop environment is something that I can't live without. Also, you can toggle the tiling functionality whenever you want with Pop Shell extension.
I would even challenge you to switch completely to Gnome on your main PC and set it up the way you like, use it for a few weeks and make a video about your experience as your daily driver.
I avoided GNOME for years because I listened to all the people who hated on it for various reasons. Then I realized it was the closest thing to the Mac-like experience I was looking for. Once I learned about GNOME extensions KDE fell by the wayside for me. You can customize the heck out of KDE but it’s just too complicated. A lot of those still hating on GNOME just haven’t used it for years, or don’t realize how many extensions are available.
Please don't use silly words like "hate" when it comes to software because only spoilt brats go through life hating everything.
I avoid GNOME, since GNOME 2 it has not appealed to me or to my workflow - but its mere existence does not stop me using something else instead and therefore because GNOME has no impact on how I use Linux, I can simply ignore it. But I've no reason to hate it or any other software that I simply choose not to use.
So please credit most people with some maturity here - and I think your use of the word indicates some immaturity on your part because it says to me that you're trying a bit too hard to prove to the rest of the world how your choice of desktop is "the only way to do things" and that everyone else is somehow wrong ("just a hater") if they do anything differently to you.
Computing is not about "fashion" and trying to impress your peers who happen to be looking over your shoulder. It is about productivity, entertainment and, most importantly, having a fun hobby that for fortunate people like me also becomes your day job that provides you with a good living.
@@EXTEZZEE Take your meds. Don't skip the pills. This is what happens, Bobby.
@@MyAmazingUsername take my disgusting chlorine smelling load.
They made an entire desktop where you only need to remember one button and people think it’s unintuitive? I got pop shell and a few extensions and it’s great for productivity
Seriously pop shell will convince you. It’s actually convinced me to use workspaces instead of minimizing and hiding everything
Think of the desktop as a curtain and the overview as the "accessible desktop" .
And the thing about minimize button, you don't need it because gnome is focused on workspaces and it highlights it, so if you want something in a clear desktop with all apps running in the background, just flip the page and use another workspace.
At least that's what I think and use it that way.
Forgot to say something important, but I guess you have heard already: Georges Stavracas, an utter genius, has rewritten the GTK file picker portal. They are having a merge party somewhere around today. It is now gonna be a fantastic file picker. It will be in the next GTK 4 release and will be installable on Fedora earlier than that if someone makes a COPR for it. All GTK4 apps will automatically use that new file picker after you update GTK. (And no GTK3 is not included. It was hellish enough for them to rewrite 30 years of deeply intertwined code in GTK4 to achieve the new file picker. The proper solution for GTK3 apps is to stop being GTK3 apps and upgrade to GTK4. ;)) Although I think they said that every Flatpak app automatically uses the GTK4 file picker via the portal protocol no matter what the app is written in. Which would ease the transition.
So the file picker DILEMA is about to come tu an end? Damn how am I gonna justify not using Linux now?
@@sampantojapa Haha yes exactly! It is ending now. On Georges Stavracas UA-cam channel you can see the new file picker in a video titled "death of the meme".
@@sampantojapa It's been finished and merged now. It will be in GNOME 44/Fedora 38.
Tried vanilla Gnome and was impressed with its stark simplicity. Takes about 10 seconds to figure out. Fling the cursor into the corner and roll your mouse wheel. Not giving up Zorin Core tho. Too pretty and too easy to use with just the right amount of features. And I like my $16 Logitech Productivity Plus mouse. Used Input Remapper to make the side buttons to volume up/down, the tilt wheel do forward/back and the middle button do F5. I can rest my cursor on the Workspace Indicator extension and roll through my workspaces with each click of the wheel. They flip up and down, BTW, and full screen, which seems more efficient. And I like that anyone can sit down at one of my computers and use it since it basically looks like Win11. Stayed with Chrome too. Not really paranoid about Google since they already spy on me via my phone. Good to get away from Windows bloat tho, and the constant nagging. Not to mention its refusal to install on my machines without a hack.
The work Zorin does is beautiful. I don't use their distro but I adore their desktop style switcher. Such a great idea and definitely worth it if you like Ubuntu based systems.
There is no minimize in GNOME - what are you 'minimizing' to? The taskbar? There is no taskbar. You can hide it by clicking Super + H. That is the closest to minimize. The better thing to do is what you would do in i3 - go to a new desktop and open a new window and leave the other window on the previous desktop. Or, if you don't need it, close it. The close button is always there.
The panel.
@@TheLinuxCast If you really want to minimize things, there's rocketbar (extension) and gnome tweaks which gives you exactly what you want.
100% with the workflow being similar to that of a standalone window manager. I came to gnome after daily driving qtile for a few months and it just clicked. I'd missed the convenience of a desktop environment. I use gnome on my laptop and desktop and it works great for both. On laptop I use a lot of gestures to navigate, whereas on desktop I navigate mainly with the keyboard. Both methods feel very natural with gnome. Pro tip for those than can't go without tiling: you can install pop-shell extension on basically any distro (but you have to install as a package, it isn't in the typical gnome extensions repository) and get tiling and keyboard navigation similar to a tiling window manager. My only gripe with gnome is the resource usage.
can you share how to do three fingers multitouch gestures to navigate in gui file manager back and forward on wayland ?
@@Robertass2000 he didn't mentioned it on the comment. Can you please explain yourself?
@@fabriciochamorro2985 "On laptop I use a lot of gestures to navigate" he did mention as you can see. I don't get, what do you expect from me ?
I hated Gnome with a passion for years. Couldn't understand how people could use it and not scream all day long. I could sort of use it if I installed 100 extensions... but I ended up with more or less a Plasma desktop with all those installed so I just ran Plasma instead. About 1-1,5 months ago I started using it as a "daily driver" just to try to see what the fuzz was all about (since many people use it) and I've turned around. I sighed and rolled my eyes many times in the beginning but, now I love it. Sure, it has some flaws (nothing really major though), but so does the other desktop environments.
Great video, I share most of the comment and your keep it positive makes it a gem !
GNOME being my main driver coming from MacBook, I was using spotlight search a lot and it came naturally when I switched, I know it’s quite different but using the keyboard only is key on what I do daily
GNOME + Pop Shell and bunch of little extensions and bunch of dconf tweaking makes it work almost exactly like i3. Actually, this is what led me back to using actual i3. But if you are for some reason stuck on GNOME (or want convenience of pre-built DE), you still can make your workflow really good. Only thing GNOME lacks vs. i3 (other than being far from lightweight and having to use GNOME tools most of the time) is lack of workspace per screen option. On POP OS you actually don't need to delve too deep into dconf tweaking because it comes with Pop Shell options already there and it's easier to edit, otherwise you need to add them manually (like keybindings) to be able to change them. It's also less likely to be broken (like Material Shell), because it's maintained by hardware manufacturer.
pop shell provides a rudimentary tiling facility to gnome. it doesn't yet save sessions or anything but if you want some tiling in gnome, you can have it within a minute or two
That's a great video, Matt! GNOME may not be the best for you, but it's always good to have open mind and understand what's good about it. After all, it means that Linux users have really good choices when it comes to DEs and can find one which suits them the most.
I'd say that GNOME is both keyboard- *and* workspaces-centric. That's why it has no visible minimize button by default: if you don't want to see a window then either close it or switch to a new workspace which is always there for you.
While I agree that GNOME is more efficient when using keyboard, I'd be okay with using mouse as well. The hot corner makes it so I can quickly throw the cursor somewhere up-left and not think about it rather than target a specific button. It's a quick gesture which doesn't even require looking. Having said that I mostly use the Super key.
I somewhat agree about discoverability. They're trying to make it better by providing the tour app which actually tells you to press the Super key to get into the overview, and by making the overview open by default at startup, but it could be more integrated and interactive.
I'm convinced Tyler is a prophet now.All hail Prophet Tyler!
The thing is it's just good, and stable.
I definitely went from hater (not based on facts or experience) to fan (based on experience) 💪😎
I was never a GNOME guy. For most of my time with Linux I used XFCE. At that time I couldn't understand how you can be productive with such a minimalistic interface.
I thought that a useful desktop needed at least one panel with every information you can fit in it: a clock, a list of application windows, workspaces, systray, system monitors, quick start, weather preview, bookmarks, application menu, nearly every panel applet availlable needs to be visible all the time.
But a few years ago I gave gnome a chance. To my surprise i got into the interface quite easy and I learned to appreciate the distraction free approach. I also learned to like the lack of customization. I was always a fan of costumization. But I think I spend too much time with trying to "perfect" my desktop experience. That put me under some kind of pressure.
Recently I was trying some KDE just for fun. And while I was working myself through the settings I realised that I just tried to replicate the gnome experience because the GNOME workflow became second nature to me that I didn't want to change away from it.
I don't know what it is exactly about GNOME that makes it so RAM-hungry on most distros, but I will say that I've used GNOME on two different laptops both running Gentoo and in both cases it was only using about 400-450 MB on a fresh boot
its the touchpad gestures for me, gnome feels much more like a real OS interface than kde (or even windows) to me
I got control right/left for going to workspaces left and right. With dash to dock it’s basically Mac OS with proper tiling and package management
in the back is an HP M22F monitor?
GNOME is actually pronounced "guh-deez nuts"
I knew it! Knew Matt would like Guh-pnome
I've loved Gnome for a long time. It's funny. I started with Gnome in my Linux journey when I started learning to code until I found r/unixporn. I was totally captivated by how much you could customize and personalize a tiling window manager. I switched to arch/i3 and learned a ton. Then switched Awesome-wm which is the pinnacle of tiling window managers in my opinion. After a while, the insane customization became less important for me as I started actually having a real developmment workflow. I switched back to gnome and set a lot of my tiling window manager key-bindings and used them in gnome and I have found a new appreciation for it for sure. I went from arch/twm/alacritty to Ubuntu22.1/gnome/guake.
ddterm for drop down term in Gnome is really good. It's customizable and Wayland capable.
Tiling Assistant and Pop Shell are the best Tiling extensions. I greatly prefer Tiling Assistant (good keybinds and I can choose to tile only what needs to be tiled).
I used Gnome for a few months as a daily driver, and as a tiling manager guy (using xmonad, awesome, leftwm, i3) I actually loved it. After I setup the keybindings, it was really great to use.
But, I used Forge to have a TWM feel to it, but it was buggy, and loading properly and had to manually restart it a tons of times. And customization is awful, I tried using the dracula theme and I have got weird glitches all over the place. But I got to learn Sway after had enough, of those small issues, which is a really nice experience for me.
If the gnome team ever fixes the customization and tiling I will go back to it. But I think the Cosmic desktop will be ready before (or wayland xfce).
Dracula Theme:
- Install adw-gtk3 and then install adw-colors Dracula. I use it. It is a perfect theme. No glitches.
Tiling:
- Tiling Assistant: The best.
- Pop Shell: The other alternative.
I left another comment with more suggestions on this video. Find that if you wanna try a few more things.
@@MyAmazingUsername I actually loved the pop shell (pop os was my first distro), does it work in gnome wayland? but I will check the theming and the suggestions, thanks
@@attilasedon9593 Yeah they worked on Wayland support a year ago. Pop Shell works in Wayland now. What I dislike about it is that it's tiling everything automatically which isn't really optimal on a desktop where you open toolbox popups, setting dialogs etc. You can set exceptions though but I never got that far since I couldn't stand it. I prefer Tiling Assistant because it has keyboard driven Tiling that is opt-in where you basically hit something like Super+Numpad direction to throw an app into a tile, and then it auto suggests apps to put in the other tiles. It also has smart grouping where resizing any of the tiles windows will resize all of the others (even during corner resizing) which worked better than POP Shell last time I tried it. I recommend trying Tiling Assistant first and using its settings to configure the shortcuts you like! But I guess if you prefer a fully enforced tiler that is globally on or off for every window then Pop Shell is for you! :)
@@attilasedon9593 For theming you just install adw-gtk3, and then you add the adw-colors Dracula CSS file to the GTK3 and GTK4 folders, and run a command to make that folder r visible to flatpaks too. It is all documented in the adw-colors instructions. :)
Alternatively, use the Gradience app to create and tweak your own color theme based on the same adw-gtk3 base.
@@attilasedon9593 You could check out the Tilix terminal too. It is absolutely amazing and eliminates most of the need for desktop wide Tiling. I have all of my tiled terminals and groups of terminal tiles inside 1 app window.
You're getting old, Matt. It's not about ricing and driving blazingly fast wm's anymore. Now you're more interested in comfort and stability!
(just kidding)
I use hotedge extension, fling mouse to the bottom to open overview. Prefer that over dash to dock which de-emphasizes the overview.
I just had the same experience
Gnome is awesome for notebooks with good trackpads. Gestures are really the best feature, and the UI is also optimized really well. I no longer use my mouse even at home, and that's a really good stuff that unlocks an ability to work literally everywhere. You can chill on a beach or go to a coffee shop, take a cup of whatever toy want and do your stuff there.
Dude! I dont even know you anymore! ROFL.
Surprisingly I've found myself saying the same thing. I've been using it for work daily (Ubuntu's version of it) since 20.10 came out. I still dont like how it sucks a ton more of resources. So I use Ubuntu Studio (which is Kubuntu) for creating content and stuff. But the majority of time lately I find myself just hanging out in Ubuntu 20.10. The other thing that bugs me is that I cant get a wallpaper to span without using a 3rd party app.
But you are right about the keyboard. It is the way to use it and you would think that the tiling features would be more integrated instead of needing to use an extension. But KDE is currently the same situation.
Thank you for the video and keep hauling ass with them!
I'm pleased that you have decided to learn about gnome a bit now. You have a long way to go but it's a start. I am happy to have a user environment that rethinks of use in a different way than ms and apple. You still have some key misunderstandings but whatever. I don't watch your vids for your opinions. To me, you'd do better to focus on bringing out information that helps us and less on opinions.
there is no minimize button because there is nothing on the desktop. you don't need minimize for the gnome workflow, just like you don't need one on a TLM workflow.
Where's Tyler when we need him most? I expect a lengthy podcast now, Matt 🤣😂 Next stop: Windows 11!
I'm a broken record at this point, but I'll say it again: Gnome is by far the best-looking DE on Linux, and it's guaranteed (imo) to be what attracts new normie users. I'm still an i3-wm user and will be for the foreseeable future, but if I had to go back to using a desktop environment, it would be good ol' Gnome, no question.
If they made the dock visible by default, I would probably agree with you about it.
gnome with dash to panel, arc menu/runner, and blur my shell is pretty awesome. Really like that Ubuntu added the color options as well.
I have very similar feelings. I alternate between qtile and gnome, and love both.
Hey off topic, but pls help if you can.
I installed alacritty on Garuda, (kde plasma) but I can’t change the font size.
I have searched everywhere for answers, tried the 2 suggestions I found, and still can’t figure it out.
It doesn’t have a menu bar, I can’t right click on the screen to bring up the “change profile or edit” like with konsole terminal.
Thanks 👍
All of alacritty's settings are done in a config file inside of $HOME/.config/alacritty/alacritty.yml
If you do not have this, you'll need to find the default one. You can google that and probably find it. When you do find it, just create alacritty.yml inside the .config/alacritty folder. Then open that in a text editor. The first few lines have to do with fonts, you can change the size there.
@@TheLinuxCast awesome! Thanks, I’ll search for the default file, coz I didn’t have that directory and didn’t want to “arch” my back and break something😁
Tysm
@@-someone-. it should be somewhere on your system too. You can just do locate alacrity.yml and that should tell you where it's at if you can't find it online.
@@TheLinuxCast 👍. Ok I’ll try that first.
I used octopi to install it, it was the only way actually, (other than building it)
@@TheLinuxCast i found it and have edited the yml. Thanks again 👋
I was always a Gnome person, but Linux was always my secondary operating system. After Gnome 40, Linux became my primary OS. My Windows partition is mostly for gaming.
I have tried Gnome many, MANY times, and every time I go back to either Plasma or LXQT or Enlightenment.....Gnome desktop layout, icons, general workflow makes me feel like the devs think all users are 12 years old kids
I started using Linux after Gnome 3 released and have pretty much used it. I still get hastled for it. I install Tweaks and always install the Dark Cyan theme on my systems.
"I like KDE more, but I think that KDE hates me" - pretty much sums up my experience as well
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I bet you could get Plasma to look and behave like gnome much more easily than the other way around. So probably all the niceties of gnome could be replicated some way in Plasma, but be a nightmare to take away what you dislike about gnome, in gnome.
cinnamon is amazing. easily customizable and keybindings that make it keyboard centric and allows for minimizing apps. also takes up less memory space than KDE or GNOME and prettier than xfce. also nemo file manager does averything you like about krusader. you probably already took a look at it but thought I would mention it just in case.
Cinnamon and Mate are the two best DEs on Linux imo. Followed by XFCE.
I have tried many distros. But nothing is as good as GNOME. Except for the default file manager, for that i use NEMO. GNOME IS THE BEST.
Why?
gnome was my first DE on linux, the way i see it, gnome looks like a desktop tablet. with the application menu reminded me of the way windows 8.1 worked. which i liked over the traditional just cause i thought it was boring i've never used mac or anything. but the way DT "distrotube" explained something about how on ubuntu with there sidebar with stuff being on the left side. i like having the panel on top with the application menu on the left with tthe sys tray just to close apps like discord and to get to next cloud. i like TWM's but at the end of the day im not quite that nerdy, so for me gnome i can use keybinds that way with the few apps i use. as im kind of a casual computer user especially on an old laptop can't really do alot.
Gnome is just so well made and polished compared to everything else for me. I can't consider switching away. It just does what it is supposed to. Looks pretty, elegant and modern whilst doing it and doesn't give me problems. The people working on it really seem to prioritize the greater future of the project too.
The simplicity and clean look from Gnome is a thing of beauty. Honestly I am leaning towards using Gnome without any extensions whatsoever each update, not because it breaks them, but because the Gnome team is getting things right.
one thing i hate from gnome, i can't drag and drop image file or document on several Apps. Meh.
Yeah this depends on a lot of things. GTK 3 VS 4, Xorg vs Wayland etc. It is complicated. But I will say this: It works perfectly in- and between- GTK 4 apps, and those are becoming more and more common. When all popular apps are GTK4 it will work excellently.
In my opinion the best take on gnome is PopOS's with auto tilling, vertical workspaces and big workspaces previews
I never could get into Gnome. I've tried with Ubuntu, Fedora, even installing Arch in a VM. It never felt right. Then again, I never thought about it from a tiling window manager perspective. I might set up a distro with Gnome in a VM just to play around with it. (I switch between Arch and Fedora, I'm currently running the Cinnamon spin of Fedora.)
And I never could pronounce the G in Gnome. It feels wrong to me, like pronouncing the P in psych. But hey, to-MAY-to, to-MAH-to. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.
Great video as always!
15:36 SOMEONE CLIP IT
You can minimise applications... It's called middle click.
Or right click -> minimise.
Didn't say you couldn't. Just that if you wanted a button you need tweaks.
@@TheLinuxCast
It is exactly the same in Windows and OSX...
Middle click to minimise windows is pretty standard.
@@GegoXaren Both Windows and MacOS have buttons as well.
The Ubuntu management took their knee of the necks of the gnome developers.
The only thing one needs to get familiar with is the Super key. Almost all of my interactions with Gnome begins with pressing the Super key. It is really that simple. The USP of Gnome is that it gets out of the way of the user. Totally distraction free. Not much of customizability is also part of that. But whatever is customizable can easily be done via gsettings.
The first things I disable are the Super key and the hot corner. Too easy to trigger inadvertently, for me at least.
@@vanadium4167 Different work flow I guess. For me, since I am also a regular user of tiling window managers, using the Super key for window management is kind of natural for me.
@@gamerboy4566 For me too, only not Super alone. I assign Super Space to the overview (next to the default Super S)
@@vanadium4167 Oh I see. I misunderstood your earlier response.
To be honest, I pronounce sudo "pseudo" not "soo-doo" lol.
the only thing i like about gnome is the overview. but now kde offers that... and xfce app switcher has thumbnails now, so thats good enough for me.
Super+h to minimize the window
Whenever in life you ask a question have i become something, the answer is probably yes :)
GNOME is a must if you have a touchscreen. Nothing else comes close. I was an XFCE user but now turned fully to GNOME. Never liked KDE cause all those settings are frustrating AF!!!
ive only ever used gnome, since 97/98.. and i'll never ever call it ga-nome. its been the only DE i've ever really used. I try KDE every now and again.. but i go right back to gnome. i was almost lured away from gnome by I3wm, but eventually came right back to gnome.
if it's guh-nome it's also GNU+linux
Like what you like, Linux is about choice.
I gave up with GNOME when it went from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3 because there are only two types of desktop environments that I like now anyway - either a simple "Windows Classic-like" GUI that just gives me access to my applications and stays out of the way otherwise, or a tiling window manager.
After GNOME 2 I tried MATE for a while but it was going through a phase of being extremely buggy, so then went over to XFCE which I have essentially stuck with now - although I am using i3 more and more anyway.
I see people using the GNOME 40 series in videos today but to me it's all "meh" - I've seen it all before and it just seems to be burning a whole lot of additional CPU cycles for eye candy.
But, like I said, if it works for you then go have fun.
Good morning! :)
for (kinda) minimize try super+H
I've been distro and environment hopping all year, and I keep coming back to Fedora's out of box Gnome for being the best basic experience for me.
I've quite enjoyed using Hyprland, but I'm not ready to put in the effort in customising bars, lock screens, menus, etc. There's an overwhelming amount of things and options, where Gnome is pretty much ready to go.
You changed and GNOME changed. Linux is about choice :) In regards to Gnome I hear what you are saying and agree what the correct pronunciation is but it is their own fault for choosing a real word that is pronounced a certain way for an acronym. The whole "GNU is not Unix" (GNU) is bad, especially when gnu is a real animal. At least they upper cased GNU. GNU Network Object Model Environment (GNOME) should at least be always upper case to distinguish from the real life word. Great channel and post ... have a great day!
I love GNOME. I don't like KDE 🙃
I feel guilthy using gnome with dash 2 dock and around 10+ extensions as i don't use Gnome as its meant to be used, well maybe one day i'll learn how to use it properly but for now as a new linux user my gnome tweaked with some extension has became very convenient and user friendly for me and i really like it like this on my Garuda system. Good video as always i always learn some few more essential things with ur videos ty for that !
@@EXTEZZEE Wow look like you speak from experience there :)
Why so ashamed of having a new favorite?
Before Version 40, there was virtually no consistency anywhere with GNOME. I will never go back to GNOME 3.x, that was a horrid, stuck-up mess. Libadwaita is annoying, but you temper your expectations with the least mature GTK release series to date. Version 43 is to the point where everything on the surface is consistent. Now to deal with the window decorations kerfuffle.
Matt gnome now. can not wait until you love NANO an ditch vim. GVM.
TRAITOR!!! na, jk, use what you like, thats what linux is all about. rock on bro and thanks for the vids
Tyler please roast Matt on the next podcast! ;)
The thing about Gnome is, your hate it, or love it. IMHO
You can not change it much to your own liking.
I am a KDE Plasma user and my Desktop is actually quit similar as Gnome.
Very clean, with a panel at the top, and a dock at the bottom, no icons on my screen.
And I use a lot of key-bindings.
But I also use the mouse a lot.
I did try Gnome (Not for a few hours, but several weeks) and I actually liked it, and if Gnome was the only DE out there, I would be happy using it.
And I even think that on a laptop Gnome is better then KDE
But I am on a desktop, and like using mouse and keyboard, like to see where my program goes if I minimize it,etc
And I know there are a lot of extensions, but they are not a part of Gnome.
I think I have the best of 2 worlds on Plasma, but you need time to customize it
I do think that Gnome is getting better , and maybe in the future I will switch.
But as a 50+ old guy that used a mouse most of his life, I feel a little out of place in Gnome
Nope, Gnome is like a garden Gnome to me. Not with a hard G. But that's just me. Both ways are correct. But since it's *your* video, you can say it with a hard G. Just saying. :-D
I suspect that the reason for the hard G is to match the pronunciation of GNU. So GNU and GNOME sounds the same.
@@MyAmazingUsername yeah, it is. I was kinda joking because he brung it up. If he didn't, I wouldn't have commented.
@@Tzalim Hehe. I got used to the hard G after hearing it on UA-cam constantly. I prefer it the proper way (like Garden Gnome), like you say.
i liked gnome when it was gnome 2. after that, no.
One word why gnome still sucks.... samba
I like ubuntu gnome... Vanilla... Yeah not so much
As much I kinda dislike gnome. I think Ubuntu's implementation of it fixes all of the negatives you said about it.
Pretty much yes. But you can achieve the same on any distro via Gradience and Dash to Dock.
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gnome is too much like mac for me to like.
I see it similar. GNOME reminds me a bit of MacOS and KDE a bit of Windows. But both are vastly different to them. It is not like a simple copy.
@@thingsiplay Mac has better design than GNOME, but GNOME has better window management than Mac. I definitely wish GNOME copied more of the beauty of Mac.