@@bb5979because he picks and chooses which games he will play at his best in. There is no point in having a player that downs tools before an international game. He’s a waste of time and it’s not just him
Sorry Barnaby. I disagree. If players need the roar of a crowd to perform, they are the wrong players. This squarely sits with player mentality and intelligence. They need to bottle up the frustration of these losses and head out on the pitch with fire in the eyes. This is what top teams do.
Thank you Barnaby for saying everything I was thinking about that game. I was so utterly disgusted at their performance. It breaks my heart that we can’t push ourselves forward in the league when others drop off. I may be alone on this but we should either bench Romaro for awhile or let him go. Mickey is the work horse in the back and definitely more consistent.
We've been on a project for many years now, and nothing ever happens. It's always one foot forward and three steps back. I put down to Levy and his lack of ambition for what's going on with the team. Enough is enough Levy
I agree with you too often we have bottled games that can give us a boost. Losing to Palace and Ipswich is disgraceful for this actually rather good squad. As for fan support during a game we could learn from the Palace fans at the Holmesdale End they never stop cheering for their side whatever the score!
Bollocks. Why are you insistent on inserting the narrative that his “mind is in madrid” hes one of the best defenders thats been at spurs for a long time.but yet the entire time he has been here the fans have been on his back. Just let the guy be ffs. So annoying.
All fans that say Ange has been backed can you please explain. They are not his signings they are club signings, 3 teenagers, no he didn’t want them he wanted Gallagher and Onana, Werner, no he wanted Eze or Neto. He wanted Tosin also. These are club signings like Spence, Clarke and Rodon. Fans please stop saying they are Ange signings and wake up, all down to Levy and the board.
Daniel Levy is garbage and only thinks about money and not trophies or success 😡😡😡I wouldn’t blame the fans more because how can they support spurs in and out to beat city, west ham and villa comfortably but fail to win against palace and Ipswich 😡😡😡It is damn infuriating and can not comprehend that it always happens to different coaches like poch, mourinho, nuno , conte and now ange😡the players should bow their heads in shame
What is not working is the players, they have a very slack attitude. They play Ange ball for 15 minutes here or there, but never for 90 minutes! This is the slackest, laziest most lethargic Ange Team I have seen since Melbourne part 1.
Barney I agree with you,we can’t even beat Ipswich or Palace yet it will be ok if we win a cup!Dream on -no winning mentality so how do we suddenly turn up for a nerve wracking semi or final in a big competition?
“We cant even beat” What are you smoking? Theres no doubt we can beat ipswich. Dont know if youre new to football but it doesnt end up how it looks on paper very often. City “couldnt even beat us” for years. Look how many trophies they have.
First one. Cheer up Barney. I agree with ya. Yes Ange has a bit to blame but they players has to take most of the responsibility. We need some ready made players who are proven winners. Their experience would calm the team down. Honestly the defence need a overhaul including the goal keeper.
1. Son is not a captain. He is a creative, let him do Son things. A waste as a worker and now not fit. 2. Ange ball is like Fergie Ball, Ange need to find his Roy Keane. 3. Ange understands the arm wrestle is important. The players will have to learn to fight, We are a very young team, but they need a leader that earns them the right to play. 4. I am Ange in. I watched Aston Villa play us last week, They were shocking, Yet I feel some of our fans want us to play like Villa..
We need to defend our defence is crap right across the back four our defensive midfielder isn’t good enough not strong enough.pass from side to side from left to right and back again and our keep put our players in trouble with his shocking passing we’re plays are tightly marked and he passes them the ball we are shit at defending no fight no aggression
People need to stop buying tickets and let them play in an empty stadium. The owners, the manager and the players are all to blame for this, they don't deserve anyone's money.
Sorry this is all down to Levy. We need quality players but he won’t pay the wages. That is why Gallagher and Eze didn’t sign . Spurs can afford the transfer fees now, but the club won’t pay the wages🤷♂️.
Yes Eze is on 200 grand at palace please ….Gallagher a Chelsea fan a youth team player will do fck all for spurs just like all the crap from Arsenal and Chelsea we signed before
To me it feels like the players aren't fully invested in the way Ange wants to play and they are still, under the surface, nervous or anxious about playing the way he wants (probably thinking "I can't make a bad pass because our defensive line is so high that a single intercepted pass from me and a good ball in behind from the opposing team could be our undoing..." or similar thoughts) and I think that, coupled with the fact that Ange doesn't want our players to indulge in the same underhand tactics and dark-arts in order to get feedback from the manager/coach on changes they can make during the game, is gimping us severely. Like you mentioned, the CL final that we got to and those "good" seasons under Poch were due to the gritty players that we had digging their heels in and refusing to lose or draw games...they fought and ran through walls for Poch because those players believed in him and the way we were playing football, and it was getting results nearly every time - now though we go 2 games and play reasonably well and win, then we lose to teams we should be putting to the sword - ESPECIALLY at our own ground. I still have not forgiven Levy for not keeping Poch and backing him properly - we had the opportunity to push on, revitalise the team and really go for glory, but instead our owner just saved the pennies and sacked off the best manager we've had in a long LONG time. Ange will be no different, albeit I don't think he's going to be given the time it might require to turn us into a team anywhere near the level Poch's team played at, but my other worry is Ange is being found out by other managers/coaches and doesn't have an answer for how to combat the way teams play against him. He talks about how teams come over to the coaches and ask for adjustments they can make during breaks in play and how he doesn't want to do that stuff himself, but when teams are literally doing these things and then taking us apart minutes later, surely we have to ask how naive Ange can be? Why he doesn't tend to coach the players from the sidelines or indulge in the chats with players in longer breaks of play due to injury etc is beyond me - surely he should be doing anything and everything to try and win? I know he's 'oldschool' with his approach and he hates the way modern teams do this stuff, but there comes a point where you can't complain about it or use it as an excuse as to why your teams are losing games they should be dominant in any more. I don't think the players have bought into things fully with Ange, and it shows with the way that we lose these games right before International breaks - the players are already thinking "I can't wait to get away from this ridiculousness and play for my country" I reckon, and thats probably why we keep falling flat in these games prior to breaks - they're just not in it for Ange or don't feel we are doing the right things tactically and that our style is so fragile that a couple of bad spells of play could end up with us being 2 or 3 goals down.
Conte said he wanted the home stadium to be a fortress. Ange says he feels like it’s a nightclub at the stadium. Two very different ideas from two different managers.
How many times have I seen our own fans and players get far too cocky about beating lower teams in the PREM, no game in this league is a gimme, if you take your foot off the gas in the PREM you will be punished by ALL teams. Pep won a treble and he will tell you that this league is the most competitive and hardest to win in the world ! It is ANGE's job to prepare the team mentally, he will NOT slag the players to the press if he does he will lose the dressing room, my feeling is he has lost some players already. For every win this season in the prem has been followed by a loss WLWLWL stats don't lie. Just not good enough Ange and you players !!
I agree Barnaby the atmosphere is underwhelming, especially in 1st halfs. But Ange is clueless, 10 losses in the last 18 games is horrendous. Kulu and Solanke are the only players, playing at their best right now. Also the football is overrated. Having 70% possession, doesnt equal good football.
The negativity has been built over 25 years of failure. Where do you expect any sense of patience, with a manager who is not learning from previous defeats.
Yeah lets just buy more players, thats always the answer! Then we can cry about them not being world class from the first game, then every game until the end of their career we can moan about them being not good enough
Iam 67 and been spurs forever, thank God I saw the good times! Fa cups, lge cups, European, so on and so on! This lot are clueless just like the manager. We need a Gk,steel in midfield, a playmaker. The defence GOD!! They can't play out of defence sometimes just send it long Ffs! Remember G.Roberts, D.Mkay, G.Hoddle? That's what we need! All these excuses about being tired really piss me off, I've played football all my life and use to train 3 nights a week and played sat & sun, for nothing. Would of loved to of played for my team for ££££££&£££££'s but played for free!!
I remember going in the "Bell & Hare" with my dad back in the day before the game and who was in there? Gilzean, greaves, chivers, Light ale before the game lads? NO PROBLEM! WHATS WITH ALL THESE PRIMO DONNAS NOW? Any excuse their tired bless em! If you are going to be tired playing 2 games a week and won't fight for that shirt then piss off!! We don't need you! I use to train 3 times a week and play Saturday & Sunday, no problem. All for no money! Would of loved to play for my beloved Spurs for Absolutely nothing, Iam 67 now only made it to Leyton Orient years ago, but that's another story. Iam not bitter it's just the fact that I've seen "The Magnificent Spurs ".Win (Yes) Win cup finals & European finals,Lge Cup nearly every year! Glad I had those happy happy times, coz they are never in a million ever coming back! But I hope iam wrong though! COYS!!!!!.OH and the NORTH bank was allways TOTTENHAM.! PLIMSOLE ARMS DAYS!!! YID ARMY!Coys, coys Prove me wrong.
What Ange is beginning to realise is that he faces the biggest challenge of all. It's not our ability; we beat City and Villa in the same week. We made Brighton look like a championship team for the first half. At an individual level and at a team level, we don't respect the opposition when we feel we are above them. This is a true cancer and one that could cost Ange his job because the organization hasn't been able to change the culture and Ange won't give up trying to change it.
Hi Barnaby. good shows as usual. Thinking about Ange he is all about philosophy, which he has said he will die for. The thing about philosophy is the same as can be said about religion and politics. Everyone has a different opinion. So Ange is changing the philosophy/mentality of the club as we are constantly told needs a lot of time. Ange has also said that we don't do defence, we don't have to consider how the other team plays, set pieces will take care of themselves and amongst other things all we have to do is score more goals than the opposition. So here we have this Guru who has this winning formula that the players have to adapt to and work it out between themselves during each match. No instructions from him, he is only an observer who can see how his philosophy progressing. The problem is that without any specific game plan for the occasion, you have 11 players who have heard the philosophy and are being coached to score more goals than the opposition with the high-line. However if the players don't 'mind-meld' they all have differing interpretations of what to do and when to do it. They are not being coached tactically because 'that's not who we are mate' so most of the time we use the KISS (keep it simple stupid) method, short passes etc. which usually comes unstuck because we haven't been coached to do what comes next. Occasionally a player will have a moment of brilliance, or a bit of hard work pays off, and that's about it. So without proper pre and in-game management we end up looking absolutely stupid. And I should add that we lose to a lot of lower ranked teams because they do the KISS method better, so Ange is being out managed just with the basics alone. He is not Premier League standard so doesn't understand what players he needs to raise Spurs to a proper P/L standard team. It is also evident that he is offended to easily, and so would not be approachable constructively by the players or anyone else. COYS .
You are right about our fans. We have this weird expectation that we should win home games like this just by turning up. When we don't some fans get vitriolic and abusive. That type of supporter should stay away from the ground and fester somewhere else. It will never help the team and is really unpleasant. This is our team and we should support rather than the opposite. As for the mental attitude of the team for many years we are so slow to get going. How many times do we go crazy when the team only start playing with aggressive passion after half time when we are behind again? We have to come out and imagine we are 1-0 down from the whistle. No side passes, just attack. We have tried the opposite and it invariably always fails. To do that however requires a captain with fire in his belly like Graham Roberts (I was there in 1984 to see him do exactly that in the Eufa cup final), Alan Mullery or Dave Mackay. As much as Vic is a great shot-stopper he has yet to show that he can dominate the box which is a must for any successful team. I am not interested in a change of manager. I have seen far too many come and go with very little return. I would give Ange to the end of next season and then we can have a conversation about whether that was right or wrong.
B, losing is always a disappointment but the manner of losing like yesterday is devastating. No justification for playing like that. Full team of Internationals against Ipswich. Ange v C. McKenna. Its bewildering.
The “manner”? The players put effort in, just wasnt enough. Ipswich are a good team who were determined enough to get the result. Doesnt mean we were awful.
Point on the atmosphere: you’re right. Two main issues as I see it: 1. Older season ticket holding fans seem to be generally miserable. Can’t even blame them: the repeated gut punches of disappointment like Sunday played over 20,30,40 years has to be traumatising to the point where you develop protective mechanism not to allow yourself to get too excited or hopeful. It’s a form of trauma 101. 2. The owner’s greed hiking up ticket prices, banning standing, pandering to day trippers: doing all the things that have ruined match day atmosphere across the premier league. Support fan tifos, flags, lowering concessions, safe smoke flares - like they do in places like Germany. Club won’t though
I get bashed on here saying the manager isn't up to it. I said on a video before we even lost to brighton, after 10/11 games we will be no higher than 10th. I based this on our Jekyll and Hyde performances throughout this season. I'm not changing that after 38 games. In fact we could easily finish 15th. Forget about winning a trophy. Arsenal Liverpool, City will share the domestic trophies. Bilbao should easily win the Europa with a home final and one of the best defences in Spain and Europe. Keep bashing away as Ange happily proves me right. No doubt we will go out and beat City, but we will be nailed on to lose at home to Fulham a week later.
Soo, I have 3 theories on how we can improve for the now. 1) buy more established players: Neto, Eze, Murillo, etc, 4-5 or more stablished starting level players. 2) adaptable tactics (Slot) -provide options depending on what the opponent is doing, BUT, it's for sure is gonna be less entertaining 3) wait, develop our youth if not, we have to be ok with this being a process when we can hit our stride in about 1-2 more years with good growth and development of our youngsters, but we'll peak perhaps in 2-3 years to 5-8 years ahead. We'll hit one strong cycle.
Well said about the fans need to persevere and the lack of individual player grit/intensity compared to the Poch team. Not enough intensity and sacrifice displayed on the pitch
I'm.sorry Barnaby but I disagree with you.....its not the Fans fault they don't play the football they don't get paid £70000 a week as a matter of fact they pay a lot of money to go and watch there team.....you seem to avoid blaming a manager who isn't really a tactical one
Didn't go because he wasn't a good player, he held value, had been at the club for some time and didn't totally fit. Fans were fine because much like Dier he always had an absolutely shocking mistake in him every start
@@mouldypickle6916: So did Walker and Lloris. Seems to be a result of the enormous pressure Tottenhan fans place on their players. Many people have forgotten the meaning of the word 'supporter'. Could that be part of the general sense of entitlement that now seems to pervade much of western society?
@@blrbrazil1718 Yeah I agree he's doing well and I'm happy for him! Doesn't change the fact that it wasn't working out at Spurs and wouldn't be worth bringing him back
Ange won't get a poor me! Poor me from the supporters. He as to motivate the players! Look at the Brighton bench. Everytime there was a stoppage, he was up giving orders. While Ange again played the cardboard cut-out again.
Upon reflection and not blaming any one player I am getting a bit tired of Cutie not showing up. Also, we are a team of journeymen that lack the kind of on-field leadership we need to level up. Eze is not someone I would pick out to be that man. It would be more of the same -mentality-wise. I’d rather spend that money on a McGinn or a Wharton type that would add bite to the team.
thank God someone has called out the fans. Big difference between last week and this week at the ground. I wish the crowd would sing from start to finish. Nothing but support for our great club no matter how they play. Ange will rip them a new asshole it's not the fans job we are here to love and support our great club. It's ok to be disappointed but I don't believe it's ok to abuse the club. I wouldn't abuse my family because I love them and the same goes for my club, I love them.
Totally agree about lack of effort before the International breaks. But on the quality of our players we buy the cheaper second option that’s why no Eze - Levy won’t pay the wages. Could have had Gallagher / Eze and another forward but wages too high. League is bread n butter - consistency needed IT DOES MATTER.
I am saying this across all these channels. Watch and listen to Kulu's interview after the City cup game. It tells you all you need to know about some of the players mentality. Yet fans in the comments are waxing lyrical about what a great leader he sounds? Do me a favour. He is essentially saying, he only really gets up for, or motivates himself for the big games against the big teams. It tells you all you need to know. PL will find you out with that kind of mentality.
I’ve completely avoided all social media after yesterday. Only allowing myself to watch Ali Gold and you. Thank you for always being level headed but also sharing in our fury. So disappointing. 🫡
After £110 spent and 5.5 hours on the coach yesterday, with a chance of 3rd, you just wonder why the players think they are so privileged they just need to turn up. It was the same against Villa and Palace, but we did turn it around against Villa. But if you give teams head starts your luck will run out. Almost impossible to see how an Ange team can keep a clean sheet. Which is why there aren’t any!
Really disappointing day yesterday. I couldn’t eat my dinner. This is the kind of pain that comes with total rebuild. Ange’s style is so demanding that playing again after 2 days is a challenge for the players. Ange needs more ready made players to challenge on all fronts.
2-0 down to Ipswich and he brings on WERNER, the worst player in Spurs recent history, only Jansen and Soldado are worse , as for Solanke a tap in merchant, Richarlison fucking useless, Vicario a joke of a Number 1, bullied for every set piece, you have to get experience and players that would die for the shirt.
what gets me is teams break and get the ball in the box, we get the ball on the break and instead of getting the ball in the box we pussy foot around with it until the defending team gets all the players back behind the ball.
Barnaby: You say Ange is try to change the mentality of the Spurs.....But Ange's method must change also, his tactics, his in-game management, basically his mindset MUST ALSO change....
We didn't see 11 players on that pitch playing for the badge. All I personally saw was 11 headless chickens running around the pitch, thinking about making a name for themselves in internationals rather than playing for the badge they are wearing and the club that are paying them wage week in and week out. Alongside them, a farmer standing with his arms crossed by the pitchline, unable to do shiet when the fans needed him the most. Our backline was a joke as I have stated during the live reaction and I'll stand by it. Look at Arsenal ffs! It pains me to admit they have the most quality of a backline than our pityful backline full of cowards who wouldn't take a risk for the ball or a foul. You would have thought against all superstitious odds and even the ref's bias towards Ipswich we'll still turn around, but by the time the scoreline was 2 - 0 by half time, it was done and dusted. Dr Tottenham strikes again, and even Spursy at that. How many times will we bottled a golden opportunity like that when other teams are performing badly and the gap is super, super tight? Embarassing, this deadbeat of a club. Come back to me when you establish a better form and a much, much better consistency. I may not be Ange Out but I'm sure am not a Spurs fan anymore today. Wasted my money buying a Spurs kit to support the team and wasted my time staying up till 9 in the fuckin p.m to watch this clown show. Better sail off than to sink with this ship I'll tell ya😡😡😡
People said Spurs had not change so many years, after so many managers and so many players, and still being Spursy. Who is to blame ? To an outsider, the constant factors in all these years are the fans, not the managers and the players. The problem could be the fans. Are the spur fans most demanding of all clubs ? When results are not good, they want to sack the managers. They abuse the players. Too much demands and too little care from the fans.
A thought provoking game indeed. We can’t keep going behind, losing to bottom table teams, losing before intl breaks…But despite the new bottom I honestly believe Ange is doing a job moving forward with tilling the toxic wasteland that has become Spurs in preparation for planting a new mentality, club culture and young talent. On paper players like Bentancur look good and you can’t help but wonder if they would perform under another manager, but imho the “Don Paratici” signings were scatter-gun, overrated and ill-suited and continued to add to a confused and mediocre squad since the end of the Pochettino era. Bargain-bin players who might be likeable and able to put a good game together but are inconsistent and just not good enough. Unfortunately under Ange and Lange we have missed out on first choice picks on almost every transfer, but we have secured some young talents. To agree with the tactical criticisms, we have some good players but we can never seem to get them to click. Parts of the squad seem unequal and ill-fitting to the style of play. For example Udogie and Porro in the inverted wingback positions that have left us so defensively vulnerable. Udogie has pace and physicality but poor passing and crossing while Porro has good passing and crossing but poor pace and physicality…and despite their Liverpool-esque nimble/diminuitive characteristics they hardly put a cross in or contribute to the game. We’ve also got Venom in goal but not an ounce of venom beyond the back line and in the back line itself Dragusin is ill-suited and the fans can’t decide if Romero is a Spurs legend or just another player going through the motions at Spurs daycare. Sell Romero, Richarlison and Dragusin if they’re being eyed, let go of Werner, and begin phasing Son, Madders and Biss out for the younger talent. I love Porro and if he stays a back 3 would be nice but Ange will likely stick to his back 4. Sign a new defender, a great holding midfielder like Baleba and better GK and ST backups. Vicario Porro, Vuskovic, VDV, Udogie/Spence Baleba, Gray, Johnson/Odobert, Kulu/Bergvall, Moore/Yang Solanke COYS
You were beaten by a well managed team with fantastic support - could only hear the Tractor Boys - Home or away our fans are proper supporters whether we win lose or draw COYB !
10th place form probably means you wont win any cups is my issue with people making that claim. We are a 7th-4th (if ultra consistent) place team based on recent history. A more realistic aim is to finish minimum 6th and progress well in the cups and maybe win one if luck is on our side.
Superb tactical performance by Ipswich sometimes you have to hold your hands up Spurs didn’t take any chances and the long range shooting was mopped up. Well done ITFC
Many problems Barnaby, but I have been saying this from the start, the idea of possession/progression football does not stand up to scrutiny, it does not work, it slows the game, it allows the opposition to slide back and set their defense. You watch what we do out of defense, Romero plays his usual prima Donna role of holding the ball, stopping play, passing around and back in and out to the midfield, going nowhere. It is pure b/s and has got to stop. Nothing beats a long ball to the wings ,every time, it cuts out 3 sometimes 4 players and 20 passes .It's basic , it's simple, but it works. Poro for me never ever marks up on his man, it's always up to Johnson, and if he does not do it you always get a man free up that side and they usually score . I would sit some of these defenders on their arse, sit them on the bench, read them the riot act and give them an ultimatum either turn up and face up or go onto the transfer list. Of course we need more players to do this, so lets buy more players. Look at Burgess for Ipswich, a tall defender, a bit slow, but he makes our high priced buys look second rate. Why do Ipswich get bang for their bucks, simple, they are desperate to play Premier league, they have motivation, they want it. Luongo refused to play for the Australian team because he wanted to pour his efforts into getting Ipswich into the premier league, and they did but Luongo spends more time on the bench then he does on the field but the attitude is still there, they want to be there. I look at our lot and a lot of those players need to be shown the door , they go through the motions and they get paid more then the y deserve , Sonny is just not performing , I don't think he is a good leader because he wants to be liked, we need a mongrel for captain and the only mongrel I see is the goal keeper Vicario , maybe Ange needs to revisit the role of players , Kulusevski would be my choice as captain , he could turn into the mongrel we need.
Are you really stressed when we're 3 points off third after 11 games with kids learning their trade, you're as weak as most punters I thought you were different 😢
I don't want Ange sacked… I want him to stay… Keep him till the end of the season… and then make a decision… If, by then, he’s not turned this team around or shown substantial progress, then there’ll be no excuse. Personally, I feel that all the fans that are going “#AngeOut” are just toxic. They just need to be patient. Believe me, I’m frustrated too… But this team needs time… I think Ange is a fantastic manager. He has proven the Spurs, under him, are capable of amazing things… Just that it has not been consistent. Give him time. I also hope Levy doesn't get trigger-happy and sack him. Give Ange till the end of the season. Sacking him would mean Spurs just are back to the drawing board. I also don't think winning trophies should be the yardstick… Yes, great if they do win… But I’d rather have a top-4 finish in the league and no trophies. A good finish in the league is a sign of consistency… Progress… Just look at MU - they won the FA Cup… But that is but a distant memory. #MoreTimeFor Ange #COYS!
Yes, haven't been able to bring myself to watch any post match stuff, any MSM punditry...BUT, will say, am prepared to go further with Ange, instead of screaming the same old manager out mantra, expecting a different result this time, like a crazy person.
even when solanke does not score he play his all out kulu is also a fighter. Son can leave now his time is up .for the rest of the team only udoge vandaven Sar bentacur can stay.
Fans blaming ange is unscrupulous, even a team like spurs with such players shouldn’t be losing games like palace and Ipswich at home even without a coach at the touch line the players should bow their heads in for not showing tenacity , aggression, grit and steel mentality!!!! Even Ipswich wanted it more than the spurs players 😡😡😡Daniel Levy too is culpable by his obstinate hunger for money and not trophies or success😡😡😡.
When a fan base is split on a manager that's never a good sign. All I can say is Levy sacked Poch and didn't back Jose or Conte that are world class managers then Levy brings in Ange backs him and there is no consistency and some of our fan base back an under performing manager when they said Conte and Jose were negative. In my opinion Levy should backed Jose. We scored over 100 goals in all competitions gets us to a final and is sacked by Levy 5 days before a final. How serious are we as a football club? Does it really matter what manager we have in charge? Do we ever have enough quality in the squad? Why back a manager that has never managed in the top 5 leagues? Ange isn't good enough but the recruitment team and the chairman should be sacked as well. We are not a serious football club. Cut the wages down rise ticket prices build a hotel and not build a team capable of winning trophies. Not statues or stands named after club legends. Its the ENIC way. No ambition
Ange relies on gung ho football all out attacking football, and let's hope for the best attitude. Top teams have a strong, reliable defence and backbone. Which Ange doesn't do or abile to manage. Ange is stubborn and nieve with his tactics, system, and subs. Ange only signs unproven, unready young players he can't handle the experienced quality players. Ange Ball is flawed it only works against attacking teams if they get amongst Spurs. Ange Ball is negated. I fail to see how Ange can fully succeed at Spurs!
Ange the best players need to man up....come on Barnaby, you can't blame the manager. The players seem tired from their Turkey trip. You really need to start thinking straight Barnaby, we need to sharpen up, but in very good hands.
Not sure I agree with you, Barnaby over expectancy, in fact, I believe the fans are expecting what exactly happened against Ipswich and waiting for the team to prove us wrong
At times yesterday the home fans DID make a lot of noise. It ebbed snd blowed, but at times it was loud. But I'll go back to the AVB game against Hull when he blamed the fans and say the same now - give us a performance that deserves our support or STFU. Yesterday was dismal from Ange and the team.
Udogie and Porro bombing forward is causing us big problems, they need to stay in their fullback positions and let the wingers do their job. Johnson simply isn't good enough, he's too physically weak plus his decision making is abysmal. As for Werner, I'd glady pay for his one-way flight back to Germany, he's dreadful. I'd drop Johnson, put Porro in his place on the right wing, and play Spence at right back.
Why did all you Spurs fans assume you would beat my team . We are both PL teams and had 11 versus 11. You need to drop the superiority complex a.s.a.p. Ipswich under K.Mc. have come from League 1 to the Premier League in 2 seasons. Achieved with skill , tactical awareness and superb team spirit.
Barnaby the club is comfortable with finishing 4th at best .Having an intimidating crowd is only relevant when we have a real chance of winning something !!
I want to be proud of my club and i wouldn't be if we adopted the Arsenal attitude, resorting to cheating and anti-football, even if we got silverware as a result. Some may call this naive, but personal integrity is the most important factor in life and football is a far too small and unimportant aspect of life to be worth abandoning integrity in pursuit of trophies.
What is not working is the players, they have a very slack attitude. They play Ange ball for 15 minutes here or there, but never for 90 minutes! This is the slackest, laziest most lethargic Ange Team I have seen since Melbourne part 1. It is not entitlement, they don't care (or dont believe), they all had eyes on another national cap. You watch Romero, will be world class for Argentina!
Been to every home game this season, 10 hour round journey every time, feel such a mug when our players don't care. Have to disagree with your views on the fans. Our support has been amazing, including yesterday, but the players just grind us down. Hard to keep singing when you see our players strolling around when 2 down.
Romero has looked sick for the past few games. I don't think it's related to his toe injury. Admit it, Ipswich's defence was damn good! Or maybe because Spurs was so bad, it seemed good? Ive been following Ipswich off and on and even though they don't win, they are getting better and better! As for Ange, I don't agree that fans have to catch up to his vision for the future. There is something wrong with the whole team mentality. Who acts like this??? I've only seen this attitude at Spurs! Have to look to the Manager for that. Until the Manager's attitude changes, we will keep getting this disaster as seen Sunday.
Well I have backed and supported Johnson from the time Tottenham signed him but I have to say he was to blame for the first goal 🤔🤔🤔 when the ball came across he should put his head to the ball but he didn’t,yes he bottled it..Back in the day players would put their head to the ball even if it meant they would end up in hospital 🏥
Wasn't you not saying to fans to chill the f out after the Galatasaray defeat? Well no fan who was saying that game wasn't important should be crying after losing to Ipswich, it was a free hit according to certain fans, well take another hit and continue loving this magnificent Ange ball.
Hi Barnaby! Great stream dude! Feeling your pain ! I'm angry too! Can't lose against Ipswich at home and what did we do , give Ipswich their first win!! Wow I hope the players are feeling it(NOT) I believe if the players were true spurs fans themselves it would hurt them more but unfortunately that performance showed they merely work at spurs and treat the football as work only & cheque at the end of the week! Anyway dude enough of the ranting, take care & Come on you .... someone 😅
ive given up on this lot levy and enic need to go with bang average signings need a cdm wich ange doesnt play and one so called player to improve our squad and kids is not good enough
Ange can change the spineless ness off Spurs by , one stop playing players that think they are irreplaceable, x ,Porro, Johnston , ,werner , Vicario, so easy for opposing managers knows what's expected and what will come , .Why ore when will Ange play out with 3 defense on attack and defense .When will Ange be able to see and change his strategy when he see nothing is going to work , he did right with Madderson???
If performance is lacking guts and intelligence then why can’t fans boo to show how they feel, how much and how long are we expected to take this dross !
We won't win anything this year, Ange has to go, we have a good squad, not a great one, we need a good manager and a few new players and we may win something.
This is what happens when the club signs trash players and kids that are all championship level, i will never waste money to watch that team play while there's no consistency and a manager who has no idea what he's doing.
Barnaby have to agree with you the fan base attitude and feeling of entitlement amongst them . Not blaming everyone but it is an issue . Quite sure it impacts the players when it is not going right . The international break issue is very real too , 5 or 7 pre-international break matches we have lost is a pattern without doubt . Without question Eze would be ideal now that Maddison is not achieving his level in any game .
Sell Romero to Madrid
Don't think Madrid will want him anymore 😂
Get braithwaite in as a replacement
Why would you sell your best defender
@@bb5979 I don’t think he is. I think he’s potentially overrated. Only my opinion
@@bb5979because he picks and chooses which games he will play at his best in. There is no point in having a player that downs tools before an international game. He’s a waste of time and it’s not just him
Sorry Barnaby. I disagree. If players need the roar of a crowd to perform, they are the wrong players. This squarely sits with player mentality and intelligence. They need to bottle up the frustration of these losses and head out on the pitch with fire in the eyes. This is what top teams do.
False. The top teams have fans that support the club.
I feel the same it’s hard being a Spurs fan 🏴
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Thank you Barnaby for saying everything I was thinking about that game. I was so utterly disgusted at their performance. It breaks my heart that we can’t push ourselves forward in the league when others drop off. I may be alone on this but we should either bench Romaro for awhile or let him go. Mickey is the work horse in the back and definitely more consistent.
We've been on a project for many years now, and nothing ever happens. It's always one foot forward and three steps back. I put down to Levy and his lack of ambition for what's going on with the team. Enough is enough Levy
I agree with you too often we have bottled games that can give us a boost. Losing to Palace and Ipswich is disgraceful for this actually rather good squad. As for fan support during a game we could learn from the Palace fans at the Holmesdale End they never stop cheering for their side whatever the score!
It's hard to have to say it but Romero's mind is in Madrid. He's lost the passion. Jogging around a lot and coupled with Dragusin you have problems.
Bollocks. Why are you insistent on inserting the narrative that his “mind is in madrid” hes one of the best defenders thats been at spurs for a long time.but yet the entire time he has been here the fans have been on his back. Just let the guy be ffs. So annoying.
All fans that say Ange has been backed can you please explain. They are not his signings they are club signings, 3 teenagers, no he didn’t want them he wanted Gallagher and Onana, Werner, no he wanted Eze or Neto. He wanted Tosin also. These are club signings like Spence, Clarke and Rodon. Fans please stop saying they are Ange signings and wake up, all down to Levy and the board.
Dreadful management dreadful leadership dreadful team performance
Daniel Levy is garbage and only thinks about money and not trophies or success 😡😡😡I wouldn’t blame the fans more because how can they support spurs in and out to beat city, west ham and villa comfortably but fail to win against palace and Ipswich 😡😡😡It is damn infuriating and can not comprehend that it always happens to different coaches like poch, mourinho, nuno , conte and now ange😡the players should bow their heads in shame
What is not working is the players, they have a very slack attitude. They play Ange ball for 15 minutes here or there, but never for 90 minutes! This is the slackest, laziest most lethargic Ange Team I have seen since Melbourne part 1.
@@StevenHaze well spot on
Barney I agree with you,we can’t even beat Ipswich or Palace yet it will be ok if we win a cup!Dream on -no winning mentality so how do we suddenly turn up for a nerve wracking semi or final in a big competition?
“We cant even beat”
What are you smoking? Theres no doubt we can beat ipswich. Dont know if youre new to football but it doesnt end up how it looks on paper very often. City “couldnt even beat us” for years. Look how many trophies they have.
First one. Cheer up Barney.
I agree with ya. Yes Ange has a bit to blame but they players has to take most of the responsibility.
We need some ready made players who are proven winners. Their experience would calm the team down. Honestly the defence need a overhaul including the goal keeper.
No, it's not the players. The fish rots from the head.
1. Son is not a captain. He is a creative, let him do Son things. A waste as a worker and now not fit.
2. Ange ball is like Fergie Ball, Ange need to find his Roy Keane.
3. Ange understands the arm wrestle is important. The players will have to learn to fight, We are a very young team, but they need a leader that earns them the right to play.
4. I am Ange in. I watched Aston Villa play us last week, They were shocking, Yet I feel some of our fans want us to play like Villa..
We need to defend our defence is crap right across the back four our defensive midfielder isn’t good enough not strong enough.pass from side to side from left to right and back again and our keep put our players in trouble with his shocking passing we’re plays are tightly marked and he passes them the ball we are shit at defending no fight no aggression
People need to stop buying tickets and let them play in an empty stadium. The owners, the manager and the players are all to blame for this, they don't deserve anyone's money.
Personally, I would sell Romero as soon as possible and use the money wisely for a replacement 8:06
Sorry this is all down to Levy. We need quality players but he won’t pay the wages. That is why Gallagher and Eze didn’t sign . Spurs can afford the transfer fees now, but the club won’t pay the wages🤷♂️.
Yes Eze is on 200 grand at palace please ….Gallagher a Chelsea fan a youth team player will do fck all for spurs just like all the crap from Arsenal and Chelsea we signed before
To me it feels like the players aren't fully invested in the way Ange wants to play and they are still, under the surface, nervous or anxious about playing the way he wants (probably thinking "I can't make a bad pass because our defensive line is so high that a single intercepted pass from me and a good ball in behind from the opposing team could be our undoing..." or similar thoughts) and I think that, coupled with the fact that Ange doesn't want our players to indulge in the same underhand tactics and dark-arts in order to get feedback from the manager/coach on changes they can make during the game, is gimping us severely. Like you mentioned, the CL final that we got to and those "good" seasons under Poch were due to the gritty players that we had digging their heels in and refusing to lose or draw games...they fought and ran through walls for Poch because those players believed in him and the way we were playing football, and it was getting results nearly every time - now though we go 2 games and play reasonably well and win, then we lose to teams we should be putting to the sword - ESPECIALLY at our own ground.
I still have not forgiven Levy for not keeping Poch and backing him properly - we had the opportunity to push on, revitalise the team and really go for glory, but instead our owner just saved the pennies and sacked off the best manager we've had in a long LONG time. Ange will be no different, albeit I don't think he's going to be given the time it might require to turn us into a team anywhere near the level Poch's team played at, but my other worry is Ange is being found out by other managers/coaches and doesn't have an answer for how to combat the way teams play against him. He talks about how teams come over to the coaches and ask for adjustments they can make during breaks in play and how he doesn't want to do that stuff himself, but when teams are literally doing these things and then taking us apart minutes later, surely we have to ask how naive Ange can be? Why he doesn't tend to coach the players from the sidelines or indulge in the chats with players in longer breaks of play due to injury etc is beyond me - surely he should be doing anything and everything to try and win? I know he's 'oldschool' with his approach and he hates the way modern teams do this stuff, but there comes a point where you can't complain about it or use it as an excuse as to why your teams are losing games they should be dominant in any more. I don't think the players have bought into things fully with Ange, and it shows with the way that we lose these games right before International breaks - the players are already thinking "I can't wait to get away from this ridiculousness and play for my country" I reckon, and thats probably why we keep falling flat in these games prior to breaks - they're just not in it for Ange or don't feel we are doing the right things tactically and that our style is so fragile that a couple of bad spells of play could end up with us being 2 or 3 goals down.
Conte said he wanted the home stadium to be a fortress. Ange says he feels like it’s a nightclub at the stadium. Two very different ideas from two different managers.
How many times have I seen our own fans and players get far too cocky about beating lower teams in the PREM, no game in this league is a gimme, if you take your foot off the gas in the PREM you will be punished by ALL teams. Pep won a treble and he will tell you that this league is the most competitive and hardest to win in the world ! It is ANGE's job to prepare the team mentally, he will NOT slag the players to the press if he does he will lose the dressing room, my feeling is he has lost some players already. For every win this season in the prem has been followed by a loss WLWLWL stats don't lie. Just not good enough Ange and you players !!
I agree Barnaby the atmosphere is underwhelming, especially in 1st halfs. But Ange is clueless, 10 losses in the last 18 games is horrendous. Kulu and Solanke are the only players, playing at their best right now. Also the football is overrated. Having 70% possession, doesnt equal good football.
The negativity has been built over 25 years of failure. Where do you expect any sense of patience, with a manager who is not learning from previous defeats.
Simple answer. Buy better experienced players as well as good prospects
Yeah lets just buy more players, thats always the answer! Then we can cry about them not being world class from the first game, then every game until the end of their career we can moan about them being not good enough
Sounds like us, I'm sorry to say. But what ever TTID@@bb5979
Iam 67 and been spurs forever, thank God I saw the good times! Fa cups, lge cups, European, so on and so on! This lot are clueless just like the manager. We need a Gk,steel in midfield, a playmaker. The defence GOD!! They can't play out of defence sometimes just send it long Ffs! Remember G.Roberts, D.Mkay, G.Hoddle? That's what we need! All these excuses about being tired really piss me off, I've played football all my life and use to train 3 nights a week and played sat & sun, for nothing. Would of loved to of played for my team for ££££££&£££££'s but played for free!!
I envy u man I have seen one trophy our fanbase don’t demand anything spinless mfers
Totally agree Rob I remember those days too S Perryman P Gascoigne G Mabbutt A Mullery O Ardiles etc
@@martintozer5468 Sadly I don't. I started supporting Spurs in 1993 aged 7. The pain!
I remember going in the "Bell & Hare" with my dad back in the day before the game and who was in there? Gilzean, greaves, chivers, Light ale before the game lads? NO PROBLEM! WHATS WITH ALL THESE PRIMO DONNAS NOW? Any excuse their tired bless em! If you are going to be tired playing 2 games a week and won't fight for that shirt then piss off!! We don't need you! I use to train 3 times a week and play Saturday & Sunday, no problem. All for no money! Would of loved to play for my beloved Spurs for Absolutely nothing, Iam 67 now only made it to Leyton Orient years ago, but that's another story. Iam not bitter it's just the fact that I've seen "The Magnificent Spurs ".Win (Yes) Win cup finals & European finals,Lge Cup nearly every year! Glad I had those happy happy times, coz they are never in a million ever coming back! But I hope iam wrong though! COYS!!!!!.OH and the NORTH bank was allways TOTTENHAM.! PLIMSOLE ARMS DAYS!!! YID ARMY!Coys, coys Prove me wrong.
thank you Barnaby for deep understanding of Spurs life - hats off) so many nuances well noted) hope we see days of major celebrations, COYS!
Barnaby: Breaking the Bank????Are you sleep walking? You are talking about Levy.....Levy loves Ange, the perfect 100% YES-man....
What Ange is beginning to realise is that he faces the biggest challenge of all. It's not our ability; we beat City and Villa in the same week. We made Brighton look like a championship team for the first half. At an individual level and at a team level, we don't respect the opposition when we feel we are above them. This is a true cancer and one that could cost Ange his job because the organization hasn't been able to change the culture and Ange won't give up trying to change it.
Absolutely bang on.
Hi Barnaby. good shows as usual.
Thinking about Ange he is all about philosophy, which he has said he will die for.
The thing about philosophy is the same as can be said about religion and politics. Everyone has a different opinion.
So Ange is changing the philosophy/mentality of the club as we are constantly told needs a lot of time.
Ange has also said that we don't do defence, we don't have to consider how the other team plays, set pieces will take care of themselves and amongst other things all we have to do is score more goals than the opposition.
So here we have this Guru who has this winning formula that the players have to adapt to and work it out between themselves during each match.
No instructions from him, he is only an observer who can see how his philosophy progressing.
The problem is that without any specific game plan for the occasion, you have 11 players who have heard the philosophy and are being coached to score more goals than the opposition with the high-line. However if the players don't 'mind-meld' they all have differing interpretations of what to do and when to do it. They are not being coached tactically because 'that's not who we are mate' so most of the time we use the KISS (keep it simple stupid) method, short passes etc. which usually comes unstuck because we haven't been coached to do what comes next.
Occasionally a player will have a moment of brilliance, or a bit of hard work pays off, and that's about it. So without proper pre and in-game management we end up looking absolutely stupid.
And I should add that we lose to a lot of lower ranked teams because they do the KISS method better, so Ange is being out managed just with the basics alone. He is not Premier League standard so doesn't understand what players he needs to raise Spurs to a proper P/L standard team.
It is also evident that he is offended to easily, and so would not be approachable constructively by the players or anyone else. COYS
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You are right about our fans. We have this weird expectation that we should win home games like this just by turning up. When we don't some fans get vitriolic and abusive. That type of supporter should stay away from the ground and fester somewhere else. It will never help the team and is really unpleasant. This is our team and we should support rather than the opposite.
As for the mental attitude of the team for many years we are so slow to get going. How many times do we go crazy when the team only start playing with aggressive passion after half time when we are behind again? We have to come out and imagine we are 1-0 down from the whistle. No side passes, just attack. We have tried the opposite and it invariably always fails. To do that however requires a captain with fire in his belly like Graham Roberts (I was there in 1984 to see him do exactly that in the Eufa cup final), Alan Mullery or Dave Mackay. As much as Vic is a great shot-stopper he has yet to show that he can dominate the box which is a must for any successful team.
I am not interested in a change of manager. I have seen far too many come and go with very little return. I would give Ange to the end of next season and then we can have a conversation about whether that was right or wrong.
B, losing is always a disappointment but the manner of losing like yesterday is devastating. No justification for playing like that. Full team of Internationals against Ipswich. Ange v C. McKenna. Its bewildering.
The “manner”? The players put effort in, just wasnt enough. Ipswich are a good team who were determined enough to get the result. Doesnt mean we were awful.
Point on the atmosphere: you’re right. Two main issues as I see it:
1. Older season ticket holding fans seem to be generally miserable. Can’t even blame them: the repeated gut punches of disappointment like Sunday played over 20,30,40 years has to be traumatising to the point where you develop protective mechanism not to allow yourself to get too excited or hopeful. It’s a form of trauma 101.
2. The owner’s greed hiking up ticket prices, banning standing, pandering to day trippers: doing all the things that have ruined match day atmosphere across the premier league. Support fan tifos, flags, lowering concessions, safe smoke flares - like they do in places like Germany. Club won’t though
Very good broadcast, Barnaby - one of your best! :o)
I get bashed on here saying the manager isn't up to it. I said on a video before we even lost to brighton, after 10/11 games we will be no higher than 10th. I based this on our Jekyll and Hyde performances throughout this season. I'm not changing that after 38 games. In fact we could easily finish 15th. Forget about winning a trophy. Arsenal Liverpool, City will share the domestic trophies. Bilbao should easily win the Europa with a home final and one of the best defences in Spain and Europe. Keep bashing away as Ange happily proves me right. No doubt we will go out and beat City, but we will be nailed on to lose at home to Fulham a week later.
Soo, I have 3 theories on how we can improve for the now.
1) buy more established players: Neto, Eze, Murillo, etc, 4-5 or more stablished starting level players.
2) adaptable tactics (Slot) -provide options depending on what the opponent is doing, BUT, it's for sure is gonna be less entertaining
3) wait, develop our youth
if not, we have to be ok with this being a process when we can hit our stride in about 1-2 more years with good growth and development of our youngsters, but we'll peak perhaps in 2-3 years to 5-8 years ahead. We'll hit one strong cycle.
Well said about the fans need to persevere and the lack of individual player grit/intensity compared to the Poch team. Not enough intensity and sacrifice displayed on the pitch
I'm.sorry Barnaby but I disagree with you.....its not the Fans fault they don't play the football they don't get paid £70000 a week as a matter of fact they pay a lot of money to go and watch there team.....you seem to avoid blaming a manager who isn't really a tactical one
Absolute nonsense. Our bottling fans are a huge problem and they have been for years. Teams with fans that have a spine win things.
Fans don't win or lose games.
Players and coaches do.
If you want noisy vocal support on the pitch, don't play like you couldn't care less.
We had a leader, in Hojbjerg, but couldn't fit him effectively into the side. We let him down, not the other way round!
He wasn’t good enough but what we have doesn’t look any better atm
@@richardedwards141: he seems to be doing just fine at Marseilles, where he was given the captain's armband and is inspiring them to good results.
Didn't go because he wasn't a good player, he held value, had been at the club for some time and didn't totally fit. Fans were fine because much like Dier he always had an absolutely shocking mistake in him every start
@@mouldypickle6916: So did Walker and Lloris. Seems to be a result of the enormous pressure Tottenhan fans place on their players. Many people have forgotten the meaning of the word 'supporter'. Could that be part of the general sense of entitlement that now seems to pervade much of western society?
@@blrbrazil1718 Yeah I agree he's doing well and I'm happy for him! Doesn't change the fact that it wasn't working out at Spurs and wouldn't be worth bringing him back
Ange won't get a poor me! Poor me from the supporters.
He as to motivate the players!
Look at the Brighton bench. Everytime there was a stoppage, he was up giving orders. While Ange again played the cardboard cut-out again.
Upon reflection and not blaming any one player I am getting a bit tired of Cutie not showing up. Also, we are a team of journeymen that lack the kind of on-field leadership we need to level up. Eze is not someone I would pick out to be that man. It would be more of the same -mentality-wise. I’d rather spend that money on a McGinn or a Wharton type that would add bite to the team.
thank God someone has called out the fans. Big difference between last week and this week at the ground. I wish the crowd would sing from start to finish. Nothing but support for our great club no matter how they play. Ange will rip them a new asshole it's not the fans job we are here to love and support our great club. It's ok to be disappointed but I don't believe it's ok to abuse the club. I wouldn't abuse my family because I love them and the same goes for my club, I love them.
Totally agree about lack of effort before the International breaks. But on the quality of our players we buy the cheaper second option that’s why no Eze - Levy won’t pay the wages. Could have had Gallagher / Eze and another forward but wages too high. League is bread n butter - consistency needed IT DOES MATTER.
I am saying this across all these channels. Watch and listen to Kulu's interview after the City cup game. It tells you all you need to know about some of the players mentality. Yet fans in the comments are waxing lyrical about what a great leader he sounds? Do me a favour. He is essentially saying, he only really gets up for, or motivates himself for the big games against the big teams. It tells you all you need to know. PL will find you out with that kind of mentality.
I’ve completely avoided all social media after yesterday. Only allowing myself to watch Ali Gold and you. Thank you for always being level headed but also sharing in our fury. So disappointing. 🫡
Yeah sure.😅😅😅😅😅
After £110 spent and 5.5 hours on the coach yesterday, with a chance of 3rd, you just wonder why the players think they are so privileged they just need to turn up. It was the same against Villa and Palace, but we did turn it around against Villa. But if you give teams head starts your luck will run out. Almost impossible to see how an Ange team can keep a clean sheet. Which is why there aren’t any!
You want to stay in your delusional positivity bubble
I don't mind Trolling yer.... TOTTENHAM GET BATTERED EVERYWHERE THEY GOOOOOOO.... EVERYWHERE THEY GO.... 😂😂😂😂😂
Really disappointing day yesterday. I couldn’t eat my dinner. This is the kind of pain that comes with total rebuild. Ange’s style is so demanding that playing again after 2 days is a challenge for the players. Ange needs more ready made players to challenge on all fronts.
It's a total disgrace.
Brennan Johnson looking at the player to play the scissor kick is mind boggling 😡😡😡absolutely insane and disgusting
he's a bum and he cost 50 M , then Werner on loan again and that injured pigeon
@@price6080 we’ll spot on bro 🤔
2-0 down to Ipswich and he brings on WERNER, the worst player in Spurs recent history, only Jansen and Soldado are worse , as for Solanke a tap in merchant, Richarlison fucking useless, Vicario a joke of a Number 1, bullied for every set piece, you have to get experience and players that would die for the shirt.
Ruud van Nistelrooy
what gets me is teams break and get the ball in the box, we get the ball on the break and instead of getting the ball in the box we pussy foot around with it until the defending team gets all the players back behind the ball.
Barnaby: You say Ange is try to change the mentality of the Spurs.....But Ange's method must change also, his tactics, his in-game management, basically his mindset MUST ALSO change....
We didn't see 11 players on that pitch playing for the badge. All I personally saw was 11 headless chickens running around the pitch, thinking about making a name for themselves in internationals rather than playing for the badge they are wearing and the club that are paying them wage week in and week out. Alongside them, a farmer standing with his arms crossed by the pitchline, unable to do shiet when the fans needed him the most. Our backline was a joke as I have stated during the live reaction and I'll stand by it. Look at Arsenal ffs! It pains me to admit they have the most quality of a backline than our pityful backline full of cowards who wouldn't take a risk for the ball or a foul. You would have thought against all superstitious odds and even the ref's bias towards Ipswich we'll still turn around, but by the time the scoreline was 2 - 0 by half time, it was done and dusted. Dr Tottenham strikes again, and even Spursy at that. How many times will we bottled a golden opportunity like that when other teams are performing badly and the gap is super, super tight? Embarassing, this deadbeat of a club. Come back to me when you establish a better form and a much, much better consistency. I may not be Ange Out but I'm sure am not a Spurs fan anymore today. Wasted my money buying a Spurs kit to support the team and wasted my time staying up till 9 in the fuckin p.m to watch this clown show. Better sail off than to sink with this ship I'll tell ya😡😡😡
People said Spurs had not change so many years, after so many managers and so many players, and still being Spursy. Who is to blame ? To an outsider, the constant factors in all these years are the fans, not the managers and the players. The problem could be the fans. Are the spur fans most demanding of all clubs ? When results are not good, they want to sack the managers. They abuse the players. Too much demands and too little care from the fans.
International break thing is real. Guys are 100 taking off that game. Numbers don’t lie. Romero gone this summer.
A thought provoking game indeed. We can’t keep going behind, losing to bottom table teams, losing before intl breaks…But despite the new bottom I honestly believe Ange is doing a job moving forward with tilling the toxic wasteland that has become Spurs in preparation for planting a new mentality, club culture and young talent.
On paper players like Bentancur look good and you can’t help but wonder if they would perform under another manager, but imho the “Don Paratici” signings were scatter-gun, overrated and ill-suited and continued to add to a confused and mediocre squad since the end of the Pochettino era. Bargain-bin players who might be likeable and able to put a good game together but are inconsistent and just not good enough. Unfortunately under Ange and Lange we have missed out on first choice picks on almost every transfer, but we have secured some young talents.
To agree with the tactical criticisms, we have some good players but we can never seem to get them to click. Parts of the squad seem unequal and ill-fitting to the style of play. For example Udogie and Porro in the inverted wingback positions that have left us so defensively vulnerable. Udogie has pace and physicality but poor passing and crossing while Porro has good passing and crossing but poor pace and physicality…and despite their Liverpool-esque nimble/diminuitive characteristics they hardly put a cross in or contribute to the game. We’ve also got Venom in goal but not an ounce of venom beyond the back line and in the back line itself Dragusin is ill-suited and the fans can’t decide if Romero is a Spurs legend or just another player going through the motions at Spurs daycare.
Sell Romero, Richarlison and Dragusin if they’re being eyed, let go of Werner, and begin phasing Son, Madders and Biss out for the younger talent. I love Porro and if he stays a back 3 would be nice but Ange will likely stick to his back 4. Sign a new defender, a great holding midfielder like Baleba and better GK and ST backups.
Vicario
Porro, Vuskovic, VDV, Udogie/Spence
Baleba, Gray,
Johnson/Odobert, Kulu/Bergvall, Moore/Yang
Solanke
COYS
Ange Out.. 😂
You were beaten by a well managed team with fantastic support - could only hear the Tractor Boys - Home or away our fans are proper supporters whether we win lose or draw COYB !
10th place form probably means you wont win any cups is my issue with people making that claim. We are a 7th-4th (if ultra consistent) place team based on recent history. A more realistic aim is to finish minimum 6th and progress well in the cups and maybe win one if luck is on our side.
Reguilón still on the books...so much still to do before we dare...
Superb tactical performance by Ipswich sometimes you have to hold your hands up Spurs didn’t take any chances and the long range shooting was mopped up. Well done ITFC
Many problems Barnaby, but I have been saying this from the start, the idea of possession/progression football does not stand up to scrutiny, it does not work, it slows the game, it allows the opposition to slide back and set their defense.
You watch what we do out of defense, Romero plays his usual prima Donna role of holding the ball, stopping play, passing around and back in and out to the midfield, going nowhere.
It is pure b/s and has got to stop.
Nothing beats a long ball to the wings ,every time, it cuts out 3 sometimes 4 players and 20 passes .It's basic , it's simple, but it works.
Poro for me never ever marks up on his man, it's always up to Johnson, and if he does not do it you always get a man free up that side and they usually score .
I would sit some of these defenders on their arse, sit them on the bench, read them the riot act and give them an ultimatum either turn up and face up or go onto the transfer list.
Of course we need more players to do this, so lets buy more players.
Look at Burgess for Ipswich, a tall defender, a bit slow, but he makes our high priced buys look second rate.
Why do Ipswich get bang for their bucks, simple, they are desperate to play Premier league, they have motivation, they want it.
Luongo refused to play for the Australian team because he wanted to pour his efforts into getting Ipswich into the premier league, and they did but Luongo spends more time on the bench then he does on the field but the attitude is still there, they want to be there.
I look at our lot and a lot of those players need to be shown the door , they go through the motions and they get paid more then the y deserve , Sonny is just not performing , I don't think he is a good leader because he wants to be liked, we need a mongrel for captain and the only mongrel I see is the goal keeper Vicario , maybe Ange needs to revisit the role of players , Kulusevski would be my choice as captain , he could turn into the mongrel we need.
Are you really stressed when we're 3 points off third after 11 games with kids learning their trade, you're as weak as most punters I thought you were different 😢
I don't want Ange sacked… I want him to stay… Keep him till the end of the season… and then make a decision… If, by then, he’s not turned this team around or shown substantial progress, then there’ll be no excuse.
Personally, I feel that all the fans that are going “#AngeOut” are just toxic.
They just need to be patient. Believe me, I’m frustrated too… But this team needs time…
I think Ange is a fantastic manager. He has proven the Spurs, under him, are capable of amazing things… Just that it has not been consistent. Give him time.
I also hope Levy doesn't get trigger-happy and sack him. Give Ange till the end of the season. Sacking him would mean Spurs just are back to the drawing board.
I also don't think winning trophies should be the yardstick… Yes, great if they do win… But I’d rather have a top-4 finish in the league and no trophies.
A good finish in the league is a sign of consistency… Progress… Just look at MU - they won the FA Cup… But that is but a distant memory.
#MoreTimeFor Ange
#COYS!
Yes, haven't been able to bring myself to watch any post match stuff, any MSM punditry...BUT, will say, am prepared to go further with Ange, instead of screaming the same old manager out mantra, expecting a different result this time, like a crazy person.
Going two nil down by half time most weeks will do that! dampens the enthusiasm old bean.
even when solanke does not score he play his all out kulu is also a fighter. Son can leave now his time is up .for the rest of the team only udoge vandaven Sar bentacur can stay.
Fans blaming ange is unscrupulous, even a team like spurs with such players shouldn’t be losing games like palace and Ipswich at home even without a coach at the touch line the players should bow their heads in for not showing tenacity , aggression, grit and steel mentality!!!! Even Ipswich wanted it more than the spurs players 😡😡😡Daniel Levy too is culpable by his obstinate hunger for money and not trophies or success😡😡😡.
When a fan base is split on a manager that's never a good sign. All I can say is Levy sacked Poch and didn't back Jose or Conte that are world class managers then Levy brings in Ange backs him and there is no consistency and some of our fan base back an under performing manager when they said Conte and Jose were negative. In my opinion Levy should backed Jose. We scored over 100 goals in all competitions gets us to a final and is sacked by Levy 5 days before a final. How serious are we as a football club? Does it really matter what manager we have in charge? Do we ever have enough quality in the squad? Why back a manager that has never managed in the top 5 leagues? Ange isn't good enough but the recruitment team and the chairman should be sacked as well. We are not a serious football club. Cut the wages down rise ticket prices build a hotel and not build a team capable of winning trophies. Not statues or stands named after club legends. Its the ENIC way. No ambition
Ange-ball is the problem! Levy has backed him. We have good players! If you give up chances in the EPL you get punished!
thank you for speaking for all of us, im sick to the stomach
Ange relies on gung ho football all out attacking football, and let's hope for the best attitude. Top teams have a strong, reliable defence and backbone. Which Ange doesn't do or abile to manage. Ange is stubborn and nieve with his tactics, system, and subs. Ange only signs unproven, unready young players he can't handle the experienced quality players. Ange Ball is flawed it only works against attacking teams if they get amongst Spurs. Ange Ball is negated. I fail to see how Ange can fully succeed at Spurs!
All I ask for is some form of consistency from these players it’s the same every season even before Ange
Ange the best players need to man up....come on Barnaby, you can't blame the manager. The players seem tired from their Turkey trip. You really need to start thinking straight Barnaby, we need to sharpen up, but in very good hands.
Not sure I agree with you, Barnaby over expectancy, in fact, I believe the fans are expecting what exactly happened against Ipswich and waiting for the team to prove us wrong
At times yesterday the home fans DID make a lot of noise.
It ebbed snd blowed, but at times it was loud.
But I'll go back to the AVB game against Hull when he blamed the fans and say the same now - give us a performance that deserves our support or STFU. Yesterday was dismal from Ange and the team.
Romero thinking he is a Madrid material and that he can just take these games for granted?
He'll end up in Saudi or Galatasaray with this attitude.
Udogie and Porro bombing forward is causing us big problems, they need to stay in their fullback positions and let the wingers do their job. Johnson simply isn't good enough, he's too physically weak plus his decision making is abysmal. As for Werner, I'd glady pay for his one-way flight back to Germany, he's dreadful. I'd drop Johnson, put Porro in his place on the right wing, and play Spence at right back.
A good watch for an Ipswich fan 😊
Why did all you Spurs fans assume you would beat my team . We are both PL teams and had 11 versus 11. You need to drop the superiority complex a.s.a.p. Ipswich under K.Mc. have come from League 1 to the Premier League in 2 seasons. Achieved with skill , tactical awareness and superb team spirit.
Barnaby the club is comfortable with finishing 4th at best .Having an intimidating crowd is only relevant when we have a real chance of winning something !!
If Ange keeps his job this season, and if we have a poor start next season. He will be out of a job come this time next season
I think we took more long shots at goal against Ipswich that at any other time this season
I want to be proud of my club and i wouldn't be if we adopted the Arsenal attitude, resorting to cheating and anti-football, even if we got silverware as a result.
Some may call this naive, but personal integrity is the most important factor in life and football is a far too small and unimportant aspect of life to be worth abandoning integrity in pursuit of trophies.
What is not working is the players, they have a very slack attitude. They play Ange ball for 15 minutes here or there, but never for 90 minutes! This is the slackest, laziest most lethargic Ange Team I have seen since Melbourne part 1. It is not entitlement, they don't care (or dont believe), they all had eyes on another national cap. You watch Romero, will be world class for Argentina!
I dont see any intensity from ange also. He is also naive. Im not saying ange out but the clock is ticking
Pathetic club
Another team who hasn’t won yet come and beat us
Embarrassing
Shite
Stop the young potential boys too! Buy instant impact players
Been to every home game this season, 10 hour round journey every time, feel such a mug when our players don't care. Have to disagree with your views on the fans. Our support has been amazing, including yesterday, but the players just grind us down. Hard to keep singing when you see our players strolling around when 2 down.
Romero has looked sick for the past few games. I don't think it's related to his toe injury.
Admit it, Ipswich's defence was damn good! Or maybe because Spurs was so bad, it seemed good?
Ive been following Ipswich off and on and even though they don't win, they are getting better and better!
As for Ange, I don't agree that fans have to catch up to his vision for the future. There is something wrong with the whole team mentality. Who acts like this??? I've only seen this attitude at Spurs! Have to look to the Manager for that. Until the Manager's attitude changes, we will keep getting this disaster as seen Sunday.
Well I have backed and supported Johnson from the time Tottenham signed him but I have to say he was to blame for the first goal 🤔🤔🤔 when the ball came across he should put his head to the ball but he didn’t,yes he bottled it..Back in the day players would put their head to the ball even if it meant they would end up in hospital 🏥
Romero is definitely not someone we need to hold onto he’s not Interested
bro it was painful but we can't win every game! chill out people and keep ur heads
Ive watched tottenhamtv for a while now and never seen you that angry yday.
Anyway Suede and Maradonna posters top lad!
Wasn't you not saying to fans to chill the f out after the Galatasaray defeat? Well no fan who was saying that game wasn't important should be crying after losing to Ipswich, it was a free hit according to certain fans, well take another hit and continue loving this magnificent Ange ball.
Hi Barnaby! Great stream dude! Feeling your pain ! I'm angry too! Can't lose against Ipswich at home and what did we do , give Ipswich their first win!! Wow I hope the players are feeling it(NOT) I believe if the players were true spurs fans themselves it would hurt them more but unfortunately that performance showed they merely work at spurs and treat the football as work only & cheque at the end of the week! Anyway dude enough of the ranting, take care & Come on you .... someone 😅
ive given up on this lot levy and enic need to go with bang average signings need a cdm wich ange doesnt play and one so called player to improve our squad and kids is not good enough
Ange can change the spineless ness off Spurs by , one stop playing players that think they are irreplaceable, x ,Porro, Johnston , ,werner , Vicario, so easy for opposing managers knows what's expected and what will come , .Why ore when will Ange play out with 3 defense on attack and defense .When will Ange be able to see and change his strategy when he see nothing is going to work , he did right with Madderson???
No calming down. This was soooo frustrating
If performance is lacking guts and intelligence then why can’t fans boo to show how they feel, how much and how long are we expected to take this dross !
Eze isn't that young. His price would need to come down.
Even Groundhog Day had a happy ending
We won't win anything this year, Ange has to go, we have a good squad, not a great one, we need a good manager and a few new players and we may win something.
This is what happens when the club signs trash players and kids that are all championship level, i will never waste money to watch that team play while there's no consistency and a manager who has no idea what he's doing.
Barnaby have to agree with you the fan base attitude and feeling of entitlement amongst them . Not blaming everyone but it is an issue . Quite sure it impacts the players when it is not going right .
The international break issue is very real too , 5 or 7 pre-international break matches we have lost is a pattern without doubt .
Without question Eze would be ideal now that Maddison is not achieving his level in any game .