Legal showdown looms over uMkhonto weSizwe trademark

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  • Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
  • This week has been filled with news of the newly-formed uMkhonto weSizwe and its public spats with the ANC. The ANC in the eThekwini region has vowed to deal with card-carrying members who endorse and campaign for the new party. Is the ANC unsettled by the new formation? Political heritage analyst and Indonsa Yesizwe founder Prof. Musa Xulu says the new party will end up in court because of laws which prohibit the use of a trademark that is owned by someone else even if it was not registered.
    Tune into Newzroom Afrika DStv channel 405 for more.

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  • @unitedkingdomofngunipeople4959
    @unitedkingdomofngunipeople4959 8 місяців тому +16

    WE STILL RUN SA!!! VIVA MKHONTO WESIZWE VIVA!!! VIVA HONOURABLE PRESIDENT ZUMA AKA THE SUPREME LEADER OF THE PEOPLE VIVA!!! RAMAPHOSA AND HIS MASTERS MUST FALL!! AS FAR US WE THE UNITED KINGDOM OF NGUNI PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED HONOURABLE PRESIDENT ZUMA IS STILL OUR REIGNING PRESIDENT PERIOD! NOT RAMAPHOSA!! RAMAPHOSA WAS SELECTED NOT ELECTED! SIYABUYA!!!

    • @Fifsta01
      @Fifsta01 8 місяців тому

      how about you stop tribalizing this, lest you want this to exclude the larger South African voters. This is where people kill a visionary's vision. It's not yours so don't tarnish it with rubbish like this!

    • @sikelelambandlwa8876
      @sikelelambandlwa8876 7 місяців тому +2

      Who can follow ANC while Mbalula thinks that he owns us as the residents of South Africa. Mr analyst stop comparing Umkhonto with COPE. Dogs only bark the moving vehicle. Like it or not sihamba noZuma thina uyasinakekela

    • @unitedkingdomofngunipeople4959
      @unitedkingdomofngunipeople4959 7 місяців тому

      1000%@@sikelelambandlwa8876

  • @jameskillu9171
    @jameskillu9171 8 місяців тому +31

    uMkhonto weSizwe is the people, will ANC fight the people

    • @NgolaNalane
      @NgolaNalane 8 місяців тому +5

      It's literally the military wing of the ANC. Go read your history

    • @Qotha
      @Qotha 8 місяців тому +8

      @@NgolaNalane that wing was disbanded, it does not exist anymore

    • @mthunzimapatwana
      @mthunzimapatwana 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@caven7056 I think you missed the entire point of the message.
      It's a party made up of community members, no known political leaders, and structures. But the hype is from the people

    • @user-ww5qw8jd3b
      @user-ww5qw8jd3b 8 місяців тому +8

      MK was disbanded a long time ago. Therefore anyone can use the name MK.

    • @buyisilemavissithole1376
      @buyisilemavissithole1376 8 місяців тому

      Which People?

  • @lehlohonolonzama93
    @lehlohonolonzama93 8 місяців тому +20

    Prof Xulu: "trademark act prohibits the use of a trademark that is owned by someone else even if they did not register it".
    Let's take Bafana Bafana case: the name "Bafana Bafana" was owned by South African football national team but was registered by Stanton Woodrush. SAFA decided to take legal action against this but they lost the case.
    Conclusion: so Prof Xulu's claims are unfounded.

    • @Mgxebe2709
      @Mgxebe2709 8 місяців тому +2

      He sound biased to me.....

    • @ValithubaOliphant-qy6ty
      @ValithubaOliphant-qy6ty 8 місяців тому +3

      Anc didn't register the Umkhonto as trademark. Therefore it's a waste of time by the ANC. They should rather focus on their campaign

    • @lehlohonolonzama93
      @lehlohonolonzama93 8 місяців тому +2

      @@ValithubaOliphant-qy6ty They have judges in their pockets that can give a judgement that favors them; but will that stop Zuma from campaigning against them?

    • @lolongubeni1748
      @lolongubeni1748 7 місяців тому +1

      I fully agree with you. The learned interlocutor is misguided in reading case law and statutes.

  • @thamsanqamayekiso4878
    @thamsanqamayekiso4878 8 місяців тому +8

    Prof Xulu gave the first honest and level headed analysis to this matter

  • @user-lm8se3dd6j
    @user-lm8se3dd6j 8 місяців тому +5

    Some of us don't even care about the name MK it even reminds us of the failures of the ANC. So if Zuma drops that name the better. We will vote despite the name change, whether the ANC stops the trademark no more ANC for a lot of people.

  • @deanwerth7241
    @deanwerth7241 8 місяців тому +18

    All this back and forth about MK is brilliant marketing getting all to talk about the new political party. Well done Mr Zuma you have got money for consultants

  • @MuziBomberMajola
    @MuziBomberMajola 8 місяців тому +14

    ANC is dead and gone after what they've done to us SA's

  • @biko8229
    @biko8229 8 місяців тому +22

    It is highly unlikely that Msholozi who is a chess grand master did not factor in this trademark challenge. I remember in 2005 when Mbeki demoted Zuma and the media projected him as a rapist and thought they had put him in the dustbin of history, Zuma came back and out manoeuvred all of them.

    • @sibusisobrian5038
      @sibusisobrian5038 8 місяців тому +3

      Facts

    • @biko8229
      @biko8229 8 місяців тому +6

      @@sibusisobrian5038 Zuma has put them between a rock and a hard place AGAIN, as they conduct this trademark challenge, I'm certain the July 2021 unrest is still very much fresh in their minds. The people know their leaders, Ramaphosa is a parachuted leader of the ANC, the guy has never led a branch, a region or a province. Zuma and Malema are better organisers than Ramza who can't even sing a single struggle song😂🤣

    • @ntombinyathikazi6438
      @ntombinyathikazi6438 8 місяців тому +2

      From which country does thi analyst come from, does he not know that MK was disbanded by the very anc that is running to courts in claiming that MK is their trademark, I think their trademark is mkva not MK, please stop bringing poor analyst that are bias to anc, this guy is real boring

    • @biko8229
      @biko8229 8 місяців тому +2

      @@ntombinyathikazi6438 ANC also disbanded the MKMVA in 2021, they can only win this thing if Zondo is the judge in the case. Newzroom really stooped very low, they invited a professor of music to analyse trademark disputes😂🤣🤣

    • @sikelelambandlwa8876
      @sikelelambandlwa8876 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@biko8229🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @juniormolefe3046
    @juniormolefe3046 8 місяців тому +2

    Dual membership inthe anc has always been allowed 😂sacp in mind

  • @mayormsuthu1465
    @mayormsuthu1465 8 місяців тому +1

    We the people are behind uMkhonto wesizwe and we are tired of the ANC and it's Ramaphosa. We will vote MK.

  • @sbusisomsomi9178
    @sbusisomsomi9178 8 місяців тому +4

    Ohh he is a Prof music that's why political analysis yakhe idakwe kanje

  • @sifisodube4686
    @sifisodube4686 8 місяців тому +3

    Mr xulu you very intelligent sir thank you I have so much respect for you you giving facts

  • @thulanisangweni1889
    @thulanisangweni1889 8 місяців тому +5

    Lol ya now i understand his analysis he is a professor of music 😂😂

  • @thembelanisithole4991
    @thembelanisithole4991 8 місяців тому +4

    Please bring another analyst, this one Is partial with denialism. Zuma has crippling influence to the ANC not only in KZN. Millions are joining MK with a campaign. It could be that this man talking is not on social media and therefore not informed of what is happening in SA and even the anchor is trying to ask realistic questions but he responds like a sleeping person

  • @skheshetrailersptyltd
    @skheshetrailersptyltd 8 місяців тому +2

    Xulu. You are an anc 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 i feel sorry for you. Let the ANC expell them

  • @mohalemotswalo4559
    @mohalemotswalo4559 8 місяців тому +6

    Long live Nxamalala & uMkhonto long Live

  • @obusitsemogwera6897
    @obusitsemogwera6897 8 місяців тому +8

    ANC won't win this case against MK party.

    • @khaltsharivist365
      @khaltsharivist365 8 місяців тому

      And when they do, you will be crying that the courts are captured. Law deals with facts and evidence and not emotions.

    • @obusitsemogwera6897
      @obusitsemogwera6897 8 місяців тому

      No I won't cry cos I don't give a fuck.They both have corruption scandals anyway and made of the same seed just ploughed on a different land.

  • @sifisodube4686
    @sifisodube4686 8 місяців тому +3

    What a good analysis very intelligent guy facts

    • @avuyanyangani460
      @avuyanyangani460 8 місяців тому

      Imagine it's the first time hearing this guy giving sober analysis.

  • @sithembisodlamini-oy7qc
    @sithembisodlamini-oy7qc 8 місяців тому +8

    Viva MK viva🎉🎉

  • @thulanigamede7652
    @thulanigamede7652 8 місяців тому +3

    For a second I thought they are interviwing and member of the and, kanti he is supposed to be neutral🙆‍♀

  • @DennisGowaseb-yj1xz
    @DennisGowaseb-yj1xz 8 місяців тому +3

    Anc should relax and see what happens

  • @nathanielkgobe427
    @nathanielkgobe427 8 місяців тому +1

    Since it was not registered as an organization, they don't have a leg to stand on, in challenging its formation.

  • @lulenhleko6283
    @lulenhleko6283 8 місяців тому +8

    Viva MK

  • @ianoverll692
    @ianoverll692 8 місяців тому +2

    The professor is correct

  • @A_Afrika
    @A_Afrika 8 місяців тому +4

    We are MK and MK is us ❤🎉. 2024 is our 1994

  • @thulaninxumalo2942
    @thulaninxumalo2942 8 місяців тому

    I akways ask my self why the television stations they seem to choose a person who's afraid to tell the truth. I wonder where they find these so called froffesers 🙆

  • @thabangsenyeka6605
    @thabangsenyeka6605 8 місяців тому +1

    ANC is not the future of the this country

  • @mosesmkt7561
    @mosesmkt7561 8 місяців тому +2

    Why do these useless analysts keep on saying the MK party belongs to Zuma while the man said he will support the party? How do you support your own party?

  • @sbusisomsomi9178
    @sbusisomsomi9178 8 місяців тому +3

    Lobaba uyahhema how can you own something u haven't registered, Prof of nothing

  • @user-tn7bw2zb8k
    @user-tn7bw2zb8k 8 місяців тому +2

    Sezobamnandi....we shall see

  • @vusidlamini2950
    @vusidlamini2950 7 місяців тому

    Sour grapes,Mr Prof!!

  • @musajohannessithole8970
    @musajohannessithole8970 8 місяців тому +1

    No one can exclusively owns the noun 'Umkhonto' nor 'Sizwe', Let alone the preposition 'we'.

    • @mthunzimapatwana
      @mthunzimapatwana 8 місяців тому

      It's a fill up the dome type thing, "Fill Up" become his trademark

  • @njabuloemmanuelmahlangu7188
    @njabuloemmanuelmahlangu7188 7 місяців тому

    They are late we are not interested in them but voting them out because they failed to deal with the criminal Cyril so can the same people who were neutralised by him be sent to manage our dissatisfaction they also suffered

  • @mandelaali5194
    @mandelaali5194 8 місяців тому

    KZN ,KZN,KZN WAKE UP.

  • @sibonisocharles5369
    @sibonisocharles5369 7 місяців тому

    He is speaking ANC language 😂😂😂😂😂obvious he has received brown envelope.

  • @siphongxongo8589
    @siphongxongo8589 8 місяців тому +5

    Crazy ANC....!!!!

  • @user-cc1re5uu1h
    @user-cc1re5uu1h 8 місяців тому

    They will never even get one seat what a waste of political thugs

  • @gibsonmboana8292
    @gibsonmboana8292 8 місяців тому +1

    They got a chance to register it because that name was vacant you got no right to stop it just join them

  • @michaelmalikita9798
    @michaelmalikita9798 8 місяців тому +3

    😂😂😂 this one is Cadre

  • @xolanikhumalo3903
    @xolanikhumalo3903 7 місяців тому

    Mk trademark does belong to the ANC, Umkhonto Wesizwe belong to Ushaka Zulu. Mk Party will win the court battle. The ANC disbanded MK 30 years ago.

  • @user-xb9tb7vo5g
    @user-xb9tb7vo5g 8 місяців тому +6

    We are voting MK in large numbers next year. We don't want the Rama ANC. This analyst is clueless. Where did you get this one?

    • @NgolaNalane
      @NgolaNalane 8 місяців тому

      Lol don't say we. This stupid party won't even get 2% of votes

  • @ntuthukomkhize1704
    @ntuthukomkhize1704 8 місяців тому +2

    Lol lol ayi baba prof 🤣.

  • @sihletngcobo
    @sihletngcobo 8 місяців тому +1

    Is the professor a member of the ANC because he sure sounds like one

  • @mpirokajosephmgcokoca2355
    @mpirokajosephmgcokoca2355 8 місяців тому

    This professor knows nothing 🙄

  • @johanbritz976
    @johanbritz976 8 місяців тому +4

    That is so funny, its taken more than 5 years down the line. And Zuma has YET to go to trial for ANY of the corruption charges with the Gupta's. You all are aware, the court case he has avoided ALL this time. Is a Corrupt Weapons Deal before we voted him out in 2018. So is the ANC going to win this Trademark Court case, AFTER he had gone to court for Corruption, or is this court case with for trademark more important than getting the money back that the Gupta family stole?

    • @berenecewessels6543
      @berenecewessels6543 8 місяців тому +1

      @johanbritz976 Truth&Agree 1000% but its like the Blind leading the Blind supporting him

    • @TeeOff72
      @TeeOff72 8 місяців тому +1

      😂😅

    • @mthunzimapatwana
      @mthunzimapatwana 8 місяців тому

      The fight here isn't with Zuma so the ANC may win

    • @digitalthirteen
      @digitalthirteen 8 місяців тому

      The ANC are not doing this by their own accord. They are fools who are doing our people like apartheid did....just in a nicely packaged manner. They brought western ideologies here now we're not only dealing with economic nightmares but also with a decay in African moral values. I despise the Anc for that. God bless the MK....we needed such a change.

    • @picassocube3521
      @picassocube3521 8 місяців тому

      You guys are so dumb, you're given a tale of the Guptas more than 6 years ago, up until today, you're failing to realize you were hacked! In your sober mind why Zuma was not charged 1st, as he's 1st suspect? Jacob's son Duduzane who was working closely with the Guptas is was chased up and down, but when he got to the court of Law, he was release, because courts, don't take verbal witnesses who saw millions in bags, but with no bank records, of those millions withdrawn or even deposited to particular banks! Matshela Koko is a free man, and another State capture was dismissed in Free State, you can search that.
      I'm sure you'll die complaining about Guptas. The current events should be an eye opener, on how they treat Zuma, as they see him as a threat, yet they're giving him and MK Party, free marketing. Just wait and see how much people will be on that logo court case!

  • @Nomngcefe
    @Nomngcefe 8 місяців тому +5

    This proff looks like he has joined New dawn,

    • @TeeOff72
      @TeeOff72 8 місяців тому

      😂😅

    • @thulanigamede7652
      @thulanigamede7652 8 місяців тому +2

      His pockets are filled with RamaDollars, the man is so biased, what kind of a Prof is this?

  • @reubenmpilombangatha7841
    @reubenmpilombangatha7841 8 місяців тому

    My understanding about trademark rights is that it last for a period of 10 years after it has been disbanded and not renewed...if the umkhonto wesizwe trademark was disbanded and was never renewed before the expiry of 10 year period no one may then legally claim its ownership...that's my own personal view...I'm not saying that is what the south african law prescribe.

  • @thulanisangweni1889
    @thulanisangweni1889 8 місяців тому +2

    Even if they can take the name Mkhonto weSizwe that will not change that we will vote the ANC out even they take the name "Tree" immediately we take membership😂😂😂

  • @user-jj7lf5qv6o
    @user-jj7lf5qv6o 7 місяців тому

    Mk was disben by ANC think b&s this fox are not mamparas

  • @nkanyisonkosi5392
    @nkanyisonkosi5392 8 місяців тому +1

    Pre-destined, unexpected divine outcome is preceded by illusions n judgement errors. Thus:
    Jn 12:40: "40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn- and I would heal them.”"
    Eze 12:2: "2 “Son of man, you are living among a rebellious people. They have eyes to see but do not see and ears to hear but do not hear, for they are a rebellious people."

  • @joymakhubela6691
    @joymakhubela6691 8 місяців тому

    Indeed is history

  • @victortakalaniberry8657
    @victortakalaniberry8657 8 місяців тому

    You can't believe what is this guy saying.

  • @joziboy8673
    @joziboy8673 8 місяців тому

    If its not registered is not intellectual property period .. if its out there for anyone to use without disclaimers sorry for you .. Another embarrassment by the ANC by not doing the obvious 😂😂😂 dumb is not the word a bunch of people who are only educated to talk and do nothing so much for education weve become a bunch of clever blacks that talk but dont do .. marete!

  • @thembelakhuzwayo547
    @thembelakhuzwayo547 8 місяців тому +1

    This is uMkhonto kaZuma against his own political party, and the ANC is sadly feeing a pain.

  • @saragora3331
    @saragora3331 8 місяців тому +4

    The formation of the MK party, in substance, amounts to theft of intellectual property but technically, the outcome could be different. Over the years, opposition parties have been preaching to the ANC the culture of ethics and to do away with the policy of cadre deployment, the ANC never listened. So the culture of dishonesty is now entrenched in society, the followers of the MK party don't care whether the MK party has been formed dishonestly. So in essence the ANC is getting the taste of its own medicine. The sad reality is that this MK party is different from the previous splinter parties from the ANC, it poses a serious threat to the ANC's electoral support.

  • @user-tn7bw2zb8k
    @user-tn7bw2zb8k 8 місяців тому +2

    Bt rama is big in corruption and is not out

  • @njabulonxele5871
    @njabulonxele5871 8 місяців тому

    Being Prof doesnt mean you're smart. This is cabbage analysisi😂😂

  • @1893MthwakaziHumanRights
    @1893MthwakaziHumanRights 8 місяців тому

    SCA has duel membership, there is no problem..This analyst is found wanting.

  • @bukhosingwenya5364
    @bukhosingwenya5364 7 місяців тому

    Not true analysis. You understand estimate Zulu's influence.

  • @isintu1044
    @isintu1044 8 місяців тому

    Nomsense anylysis but good for clever blacks

  • @njabulomsweli5057
    @njabulomsweli5057 8 місяців тому +7

    All this analysis are so bias I wonder which tavern thy get them😂😂😂😂

  • @cypriannzama4731
    @cypriannzama4731 8 місяців тому

    The Professor is deluded. Bafana Bafana was associated with SA national squad but it is not owned by SAFA and the Congress of the People is also associated with the ANC but they lost in court to block COPE. The Professor just uses sentiments than law. I am not sure what type of a legal person is this one.

  • @khaltsharivist365
    @khaltsharivist365 8 місяців тому +1

    This Zuma narrative about dominance in KZN is a media creation because palace intrigue sells. “Speaking to the media on Wednesday, IFP provincial chairperson Thami Ntuli said the people of KwaZulu-Natal knew that Zuma was given a chance to improve their lives but there was nothing they could show of what he did for them. Ntuli believed that Zuma wanted political protection rather than wanting to better the lives of the people.”

    • @biko8229
      @biko8229 8 місяців тому +1

      Zuma gives you chest pains neh😂🤣 FYI Zuma increased the ANC votes in KZN from 1 287 823 in 2004(when Mbeki was pres) to 2 192 516 in 2009(when Zuma was pres). No leader has such capacity in KZN. In 2009 Inkatha only received just over 700k of the vote in KZN. In other words Zuma brought more new KZN votes to the ANC in 2009 than the entire total votes of Inkatha.
      Its not a narrative, statistics show there is no politician more popular and DOMINANT than Zuma in KZN. Don't be emotional like this misinformed so-called professor.

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 8 місяців тому +1

      You were talking to a political rivalry and expected him to say any positive thing about Zuma? And you take that information you bring it here for argument? Are you serious???

  • @mpirokajosephmgcokoca2355
    @mpirokajosephmgcokoca2355 8 місяців тому

    This is not armed wing of the ANC. Come on analyst don't be weak

  • @musamkhize9328
    @musamkhize9328 8 місяців тому +2

    Viva MK viva

  • @japiesas6517
    @japiesas6517 8 місяців тому

    I am more worried about the well-being of the SG honourable mr Mbalula we know mr Zuma is a very sick man but the SG is very quiet it's not normal. I do not see a doctor next to mr Zuma what if he collapses in his condition anything is possible.

    • @biko8229
      @biko8229 8 місяців тому

      Ivale mfana

  • @justicehlungwani5459
    @justicehlungwani5459 8 місяців тому +1

    Poor analyst

  • @khaltsharivist365
    @khaltsharivist365 8 місяців тому

    Zuma will be turning 82 in a few months. It’s safe to say his best days are behind him. These are literally the last kicks, shame on those abusing geriatrics for their own political ambitions.
    His lawyer Dali Mpofu argued he should be granted medical parole because he is terminally ill. The parole board appointed medical doctor refuted this & said he has a “complex medical condition which predispose (sic) him to unpredictable medical fallouts or events of high-risk clinical picture”. When it came to standing in trial, his age & comorbidities were central to his defence. Campaign trail is much more demanding but suddenly & miraculously he is quite sprightly. A lot of people who think this is about them & a ‘glorious future’ will be left with eggs on their faces after pinning their cultish hopes on a lame and old horse in a steeplechase.

    • @user-lm8se3dd6j
      @user-lm8se3dd6j 8 місяців тому +1

      Not just Zuma the whole bunch is old, why sideline Zuma alone. Ramaphosa is a grandpa at 71.

    • @SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
      @SylviaMitchell-tz2sl 8 місяців тому

      ​@@user-lm8se3dd6jI agree 💯👍 they are power hungry and have greed written all over them 😂 bring in young intelligent caring people for the people. These old folks are for themselves 😭

    • @thabeloblessing9731
      @thabeloblessing9731 7 місяців тому

      Ubani othena uzuma usafuna ukuba president

  • @Qotha
    @Qotha 8 місяців тому +1

    The new dawn analyst

  • @bibo5649
    @bibo5649 8 місяців тому +1

    Mk viva

  • @Sbahlemp
    @Sbahlemp 8 місяців тому

    Analys not speculate. Don't be a fool

  • @charlesgwele3020
    @charlesgwele3020 8 місяців тому

    ..

  • @MfanafuthiNkala
    @MfanafuthiNkala 8 місяців тому

    Prof. You compare things that is non compare, watch and see

  • @sakhilengwenya8568
    @sakhilengwenya8568 8 місяців тому +1

    ANC is in denial that Zuma brought heat onto them, ayeye
    I sense them being under 50% in 2024

  • @sithembisodlamini-oy7qc
    @sithembisodlamini-oy7qc 8 місяців тому +7

    Viva MK viva🎉🎉