@@pillred5974 hey, sorry for the late answer. Tested in individual mode with settings: Sport, Sport, Normal. It is the same as in sport mode, it does not remove regenerative braking. To answer your second question, switching from Sport to Normal does remove the regenerative braking, however I do not remember if it does so instantly.
There is no CVT gearbox in this Honda Civic I have had this car for over a month. Lovely to drive fantastic mileage. Only negatives are a very poor rear camera No wireless Android auto connection.
Getting mine in blue at the end of the month, Advance. Looking forward to it i was very impressed with the test drive. Also as already mentioned above there is NO CVT gearbox, car journalists need to do their research. Here is a link that will inform you correctly ua-cam.com/video/p9iEfFlkIEA/v-deo.html&pp=ygUXY2l2aWMgZWhldiBwcmVzZW50YXRpb24%3D Listen from 13.12 onwards. The other thing to note is that regen does not turn off in sports mode.
@@f1briefings_SI That's what Honda called it, which is misleading. It is why I pointed out the video link, which is the correct interpretation. If you watch it you will understand there is NO CVT.
@@greymark420 Interesting to know... I was merely repeating the information given to me by Honda. It does feel very much like a CVT gearbox, albeit one of the better ones I've tried.
strange, almost every reviewer and testrider described this a one of the, if not, the most engaging C segment family hatch on the market, and here you are stating: 'it lacks a bit of excitement across the board' LOL Lets not kid her, the chassis is fantastic, it always was, its basically the same car as the previous gen wich everybody seems to hate for the same reason: the looks, but the chassis is perfect for a FWD and the Type R of that car is the fasted thing you can get on a FWD platform. Now this car enters the market, and reviewers want to give the impression, its a departure for the previous generation, like its an whole new car....wich is not the case at all, besided the drive train of course. And it does 0-60 in around 7s, with some testers even getting sub 7s.... Good research....
@10:38 I disagree completely. I have a 2016 Accord with glossy black plastic on the center console, and I'm thinking about wrapping it with something textured and non-glossy so I'm not randomly blinded while driving. Glossy black also scratches very easily and shows those scratches very easily. I'd take the scratchy plastic over glossy black every time.
Yeah, the glossy piano plastic is very sensitive for scratches and fingerprints. The plastic under the arm rest is very unstable. It moves all the way. :-(
I'm trying to determine if there is any mechanical difference between this EU version of a Civic hybrid with the American Honda Accord Hybrid? The e:HEV label is confusing, but I think they use the same mechanics under the hood.
The glove box is rediculusly tiny, almost unusable. Why? You are the only one who pointed it out. Someone might think it is not important but it is even more important than how buttons are feeling, and everyone admires that like it is a space shuttle. They are making clicking sounds but still very plasticky.
Many people complain about the small glovebox, but they don't realize that it's because there's an extra airbag for the passenger hidden inside. That's a rare feature for this price range, and it's more important than having more space for your stuff. I wish reviewers in general would pay more attention to the safety aspects of the cars they review.
Good to know but when you see it live it is a big disappointment. Buying this type of a car one is aware it is not huge and I would trade better driving for a space but at least you want average at least. Otherwise why don't go cheaper and smaller with even better driving characteristics. Actually they want you to spend 10% more in money for 2 % more in metal and buy ZRV. Otherwise forget about glovebox - tinybox.
The best review i have read so far, but as posted on other reviews, the increase in price to abouve the Magic £40k barrier put this in a whole different car tax band from normal cars, you then pay just under £500 a year for 5 years !!! What were Honda thinking, why did they just keep it below the £40k limit, its not that hard.....£39,995 !!!. A big mistake for private buyers.
Can someone help me understand; isn’t it really slow/inefficient to have an engine drive tires at 1:1 ratio? Thinking about picking up speed when driving on the motorway ?
No sir! We have a video coming soon to explain everything, but with The Grand Tour coming to a slow stop, we've changed direction to bring you the content that you'd want to see, without relying on the show.
Man, learn the technical facts first. There is no CVT transmission, or any other type of transmission at all ! Stop spreading that nonsense about CVT .
@@f1briefings_SI Honda have now changed how they refer to it, to end confusion in the public's mind. You don't have to blindly accept whatever a manufacturer tells you as Gospel, you know.
@@daraidje I know YT comments aren’t optimal for this, but how are they different? Based on the explanation given in the video, it’s an ICE acting as a generator for an electric drivetrain, no?
@@MarcosCodas in the Prius, ICE and electric motor are coupled via a planetary gearbox. ICE (152 hp) and electric motor (113 hp) can drive the car to varying degrees, aka power-split system. The Civic ditches that gearbox and instead directly couples the ICE to a dedicated generator (143 hp), aka serial hybrid. The generated electricity is then directed to either the battery or the electric drive motor (184 hp). At highway speeds the motor can be coupled via clutch to the driveshaft through a single speed gearbox, ignoring the hybrid drivetrain altogether when the ICE on its own is most efficient. In that sense the Civic behaves more like an electric car 90% of the time, solely driven by its electric motor and switches to "ICE-mode" for the rest of the time. Both systems have advantages and disadvantages, while they follow the same aim of increasing efficiency: the Civic's system reduces overall mechanical loss, whereas the Prius can combine its different motors over a wide range of dynamic loads. Both cars try to utilize the ICE at maximum thermal efficiency at all times, though.
Instead of finding everything weird, what about finding out the reason why they're like that so your viewers don't find it weird as well.
this guy is absolutely zero knowledge.
also, this car doesn't have a gearbox
No CVT! No Transmission at all. A clutch connects the engine to the wheels at certain speeds
When connected to the engine the ratio is not 1 to 1 either.
6:06 leave it in sport mode and pull paddle til regen 4. It’ll stay there. It won’t do it in normal or eco because of the throttle mapping.
I found that when testing the Z-RV. Strange for it to be under sport when it's the last thing you want when driving 'spiritedly'...
Was about to say. Maybe it can be used in Custom mode as well, haven’t tested.
Have you tried it in custom mode yet?@@SlayerOfPlayer
Even if you then change the mode and then go back to sport?
@@pillred5974 hey, sorry for the late answer. Tested in individual mode with settings: Sport, Sport, Normal. It is the same as in sport mode, it does not remove regenerative braking.
To answer your second question, switching from Sport to Normal does remove the regenerative braking, however I do not remember if it does so instantly.
There is no CVT gearbox in this Honda Civic I have had this car for over a month. Lovely to drive fantastic mileage. Only negatives are a very poor rear camera No wireless Android auto connection.
Agreed
Getting mine in blue at the end of the month, Advance. Looking forward to it i was very impressed with the test drive. Also as already mentioned above there is NO CVT gearbox, car journalists need to do their research. Here is a link that will inform you correctly ua-cam.com/video/p9iEfFlkIEA/v-deo.html&pp=ygUXY2l2aWMgZWhldiBwcmVzZW50YXRpb24%3D Listen from 13.12 onwards. The other thing to note is that regen does not turn off in sports mode.
It's an e-CVT
@@f1briefings_SI That's what Honda called it, which is misleading. It is why I pointed out the video link, which is the correct interpretation. If you watch it you will understand there is NO CVT.
@@greymark420 Interesting to know... I was merely repeating the information given to me by Honda. It does feel very much like a CVT gearbox, albeit one of the better ones I've tried.
strange, almost every reviewer and testrider described this a one of the, if not, the most engaging C segment family hatch on the market, and here you are stating: 'it lacks a bit of excitement across the board'
LOL
Lets not kid her, the chassis is fantastic, it always was, its basically the same car as the previous gen wich everybody seems to hate for the same reason: the looks, but the chassis is perfect for a FWD and the Type R of that car is the fasted thing you can get on a FWD platform.
Now this car enters the market, and reviewers want to give the impression, its a departure for the previous generation, like its an whole new car....wich is not the case at all, besided the drive train of course.
And it does 0-60 in around 7s, with some testers even getting sub 7s....
Good research....
@10:38 I disagree completely. I have a 2016 Accord with glossy black plastic on the center console, and I'm thinking about wrapping it with something textured and non-glossy so I'm not randomly blinded while driving. Glossy black also scratches very easily and shows those scratches very easily. I'd take the scratchy plastic over glossy black every time.
Yeah, the glossy piano plastic is very sensitive for scratches and fingerprints. The plastic under the arm rest is very unstable. It moves all the way. :-(
It's still not available for now in Italy. Never saw 1
Wow! Pro Stuff Alex and Lydia. Loved every bit of it
Thank you, sir!
I'm trying to determine if there is any mechanical difference between this EU version of a Civic hybrid with the American Honda Accord Hybrid? The e:HEV label is confusing, but I think they use the same mechanics under the hood.
Curious have you driven the Lexus IS250h? if you have which one would you choose as the 2021 Lexus IS250h is a little more than this?
Leave it in Sport if you want the regen function to stay on
The glove box is rediculusly tiny, almost unusable. Why? You are the only one who pointed it out. Someone might think it is not important but it is even more important than how buttons are feeling, and everyone admires that like it is a space shuttle. They are making clicking sounds but still very plasticky.
Many people complain about the small glovebox, but they don't realize that it's because there's an extra airbag for the passenger hidden inside. That's a rare feature for this price range, and it's more important than having more space for your stuff. I wish reviewers in general would pay more attention to the safety aspects of the cars they review.
Good to know but when you see it live it is a big disappointment. Buying this type of a car one is aware it is not huge and I would trade better driving for a space but at least you want average at least. Otherwise why don't go cheaper and smaller with even better driving characteristics.
Actually they want you to spend 10% more in money for 2 % more in metal and buy ZRV. Otherwise forget about glovebox - tinybox.
The best review i have read so far, but as posted on other reviews, the increase in price to abouve the Magic £40k barrier put this in a whole different car tax band from normal cars, you then pay just under £500 a year for 5 years !!! What were Honda thinking, why did they just keep it below the £40k limit, its not that hard.....£39,995 !!!. A big mistake for private buyers.
That's list price, not sale price
Can someone help me understand; isn’t it really slow/inefficient to have an engine drive tires at 1:1 ratio? Thinking about picking up speed when driving on the motorway ?
The grand tour page got sold?
ha?
No sir! We have a video coming soon to explain everything, but with The Grand Tour coming to a slow stop, we've changed direction to bring you the content that you'd want to see, without relying on the show.
Man, learn the technical facts first. There is no CVT transmission, or any other type of transmission at all ! Stop spreading that nonsense about CVT .
I repeated the information I was told by Honda. They class it as a CVT, so so do I
@@f1briefings_SI Honda have now changed how they refer to it, to end confusion in the public's mind. You don't have to blindly accept whatever a manufacturer tells you as Gospel, you know.
@@worrywart1311get a grip 😂
@@worrywart1311this comment is the epitome of “just believe me. You want sources, look it up yourself” when he LITERALLY got it from the source.
No CVT boss
You can apparently hack it to have wireless Android Auto.
16:24 how? Peter
So it's a Prius?
I had both. Prius 4 prior to this one. And no, abolutely not. 2 completely different cars.
@@daraidje I just meant in terms of drivetrain technology.
@@MarcosCodas nope. Technologies are very different also.
@@daraidje I know YT comments aren’t optimal for this, but how are they different? Based on the explanation given in the video, it’s an ICE acting as a generator for an electric drivetrain, no?
@@MarcosCodas in the Prius, ICE and electric motor are coupled via a planetary gearbox. ICE (152 hp) and electric motor (113 hp) can drive the car to varying degrees, aka power-split system. The Civic ditches that gearbox and instead directly couples the ICE to a dedicated generator (143 hp), aka serial hybrid. The generated electricity is then directed to either the battery or the electric drive motor (184 hp). At highway speeds the motor can be coupled via clutch to the driveshaft through a single speed gearbox, ignoring the hybrid drivetrain altogether when the ICE on its own is most efficient. In that sense the Civic behaves more like an electric car 90% of the time, solely driven by its electric motor and switches to "ICE-mode" for the rest of the time. Both systems have advantages and disadvantages, while they follow the same aim of increasing efficiency: the Civic's system reduces overall mechanical loss, whereas the Prius can combine its different motors over a wide range of dynamic loads. Both cars try to utilize the ICE at maximum thermal efficiency at all times, though.
Far to noisy you need ear muffs
Im sure Honda could fix many of these niggles with a software update, sounds like a great car maybe a future purchase.