@AmericanTrucks Ford What spacer do you recommend to use factory oem 18in wheels on 2016 F150 and what is the largest tire I can use on the oem wheels with this kit and recommended spacer w/o rubbing? Thank you!
Just completed this installation on my 2014 F-150 Crew Cab XLT following your instruction. Stock tires so far we'll see when those get worn out I'll upgrade to 33's or 35's. A few changes but all-in-all a straightforward installation. bolts/nuts weren't all the same but of course not the same truck. had trouble with removing the brakes. Shop stupidly over torqued the 21 mm bolts. but after applying a 36" 3/4" breakerbar to them they finally gave up the ghost and loosened. From there on it was easy. Upper shock nuts were removed from the engine bay with a impact wrench and an 12" extension. 6.5 hours start to finish including the Brake caliper issue. Note to everyone, make sure you have a good tool set to work with from the beginning. Having everything on hand made the job do smoothly. Thanks, American Trucks for the informative video showing step by step how to complete this project.
After a year, how does the truck feel? Did you have any problems? I also have a 2014 4x4 and I'm looking to get the 3in lift or the 2in level to put 35s onto my sorck wheels. But I hear people say "don't put a 3in because it ruins the Geometry, just a 2in level is acceptable"
Should've mentioned that the aftermarket upper control arm has a grease nipple for the ball joint. When regularly greased, you'll get a longer lasting ball joint.
That was really a well done video for installing the rough country kit! It was informative but not over the top to discourage the average DIY'R! Thank you for posting!
I just installed the RC Vertex 3" kit and I did notice the CV angles are at extreme. I saw a show on TruckU, season 17 black F150 if you want to watch, that talked about Trakmotive Extended travel CV axles. They have new technology with CV extended angles for lifts like this. But after finally talking to Trakmotive they said that show on TruckU was experimental and those CV axles arnt available yet! Nobody makes extended travel CV axles like Trackmotive is about to produce. As of july of 16, 22 they said maybe 3 or 4 more months and they might be ready.
Your videos are well done and very helpful. If you could include actual tire size instead of just 33s or 35s along with wheel size offset and backspace. That would be so helpful.
I’ve watched a lot of videos about installing leveling and lift kits. This is the first one to ever mention the IWE actuator and pressures. How are they just pulling off the axle hub without damaging it?
If you know the IWE system on these things (and it sounds like you do) then you know pulling vacuum is required per the Ford manual. Not doing so will risk IWE/Hub damage- I can't speak to other videos, maybe they don't speak to it or don't show it, but I will always recommend following the manufacturers procedures with intricate systems such as this. -Justin
You can pull it apart with out vacuum, the problem is if you don't use vacuum when reinstalling. You can reinstall without vacuum, but you have to make sure that the splines are aligned/engaged before tightening everything down.
I don't wanna spend the money on a 6 inch lift. Iam get the 3inch lift. And see if I can make. That's 37inch tires fit I might have to do some cutting on my bumper and inside
The only thing I didn't like about the video was you should never tighten down the upper control arm bushings until the weight of the truck is on the ground. You don't want the bushings having to much tension on them.
This kit needs to come with a differential drop. With this 3” lift and 35’s, it puts the axles at too sharp an angle. It has caused several of my front end components to wear and need replaced within a year of installing this kit. I am having to get an off-road shop to custom make a differential drop since I can’t order one anywhere. I would go with the 4” kit since it comes with needed parts to keep axles at the correct/straight angle they were designed to be in most of the time.
@@NeonTuner524 no, the guy I had to do it just welded a couple pieces on that lower the differential to bolt to. He did it just low enough to where he didn’t have to cut anything. But he didn’t do a very good job welding so I’m gonna have to get it redone. I will probably just wait and order the four-inch kit when I can that comes with the brackets and everything already.
My 2008 expedition has a front suspension very similar to the front suspension in the truck shown in the video. I installed a leveling kit (3 inch front, 2 inch rear) and was able to run close to 34 inch tires with no spacers. LT 285/75 R17, which comes out to about 33.8 overall diameter. I'm not not a huge fan of wheel spacers, though I do understand why they may be necessary, depending on the application. Chances are this lift kit would accommodate a 34 inch tire without the need for spacers, or any other modifications. Looks like a half decent kit, though I'd be curious to know how the aftermarket ball joints and struts hold up long term.
Very Informative video. Bought a kit for my 2013 Ford F-150 4X4. Did not notice anything different between this F-150 and mine. except one minor thing. My instructions tell me to disconnect the EPAS. (Electronic Power Assist Steering) they emphasized that this MUST be done. Can you tell me if you disconnected yours? if not is there a difference due to the years make. also your opinion, Not long ago I replaced the IWE on my truck with a Dorman upgrade that eliminated the use of the vacuum line. Its still attached to the IWE (The vacuum line) but it serves no function. I can still switch to 4H and 4L the transfer case responds. I was skeptical at first. But It worked. ??
Any idea of a part number for a replacement upper control arm ball joint? Either aftermarket to buy locally at a parts store or from rough country? Thanks
Francisco Marquez I wouldn’t do that. The CV axel is really angled to the max with this setup. You’ll also risk the geometry getting out of wack as well.
How does everyone like the shock in this kIt? Good? The Vertex look crazy but what is the real on road difference really going to be. Cause I dont really want to have a 6' lift but I do want the best shock. Maybe bielsteins?
So with this kit will I be able to fit 20x10 -19 offset with a set of 33x12.50s without any trimming or cutting? I really didn’t want to touch anything
I have 20x10 -25 with 33x12.5 on a 2in level and cut only front crash bars but I did that before install looking at it after I probably didn't need to cut them at all
@@JamesWilliams-uh6vq I think the kit I decided to go with is the 4” lift kit from RC but I’ll be doing 20x9 +18 offset with a set of 295/60/20.....I’ve done some research and asked around and that wheel/tire combo on the lift should be just fine with no cutting or removing of the crash bars
Anyone running a tire middle of the road between a 33 and 35 inch. I was looking at installing this lift on a 2018 F150 XLT using the stock alloy rims, spacers and LT295/70R18 tires which run 34.3 inches. Any rubbing or do you absolutely need to stay in a 33 inch class tire to ensure no rubbing.
I know this is an older video but I’m looking at purchasing this kit for my f150, but I do tow an enclosed trailer that’s around 4000-5000lbs loaded. How much would having this kit mess with my towing? Would it squat a bunch?
Have you done this yet? I'm looking at the same (with 0 offset, though). Curious if you had to remove the front/rear crash bars (if you have a super crew cab).
@@joed4753 i got wheels with a +12 offset and they fit fine. I did remove that low hanging front air dam lip before hand cuz it looks dumb you may need to remove that but i think long as you dont have no crazy offset youll be fine. My dealer even said 35s fit on it with a + 28 offset
So...... I have a 2018 150 fx4. Been doing research left and right. Alot of ppl been saying that a 3" is bad for the accuators on the vehicle. But I'm thinking that's what the control arms are for, for adjustment of the camber so it won't have so much stress and stock control arms???🙄🤔
It’s the axle angle that gave me a problem with this kit. I have had several front end components go out after only a year. I am having an off-road shop do a custom differential drop to get my axles back to a more conducive angle. Actuators are one of the things I had to replace. In retrospect, I would go with the 4” lift because it addresses this problem.
I've watched like 3 F150 Leveling kit installs on American Trucks channel and none mention the IWE vacuum - SO is it needed or just an added precaution?
I don’t see how Changing the upper control arm fixes the CV angle. Many of your other videos say anything more than 2.5” on these trucks will destroy CVs. Kinda contradicting yourself.
How do you guys miss that the ball joint stud angle is much steeper. The steeper angle compensates for the lifted height, therefore keeping the cv angles close to factory. Stop skipping through the video and listen.
In what way does changing the ball joint angle effect cv angle. Changing the ball joint angle prevents the upper ball joint from getting in a bind, but the cv shaft is still 2.5” lower than factory.
Patrick Amos youll go through a lot of those they dont re-angle them for you. Just look at the video youll see how extreme the angles are at.. Plus rough country shocks and struts are garbage
john russo those angles are sagging because its in the air lol... there alot more even on the ground i got a halo 3 inch in my truck my brothers got this kit and the thing rides the same.... only difference is i paid 2800$ he paid 800$
Newbie question; why would you need to disengage 4 wheel drive by the pump maneuver? Does that part stay locked in even though 4 wheel drive isn't engaged inside the vehicle i.e. without shifting into neutral and switching the selector over?
Question: Why do level kits (2" RC) come with blocks for the rear? I am wanting to remove the rake, how do rear modifications come into play? I don't think I will be installing the rear blocks...
Some kits provide an overall lift in addition to leveling the rake which would explain the rear blocks. Rear modifications would be minimal to none as it's just a block that sandwiches in between the leaf spring and the axle with longer U-bolts.
Thanks for the video! I maybe missed something. Why remove the brakes and knuckle? I installed a Bilstein 5100 kit on mine without removing the brakes or knuckle. What part of this kit required those to be removed? Or is it just a better way to do the install?
Matthew Emrick I just did this install and the reason for removing the caliper is because when you pry or push down on the lower control arm to remove the strut the brake line gets in a bind imo. As for removing the entire knuckle I don't feel it is necessary as the added weight of the knuckle helps push the lower control arm down. Hope this helps!
@AmericanTrucks Ford What spacer do you recommend to use factory oem 18in wheels on 2016 F150 and what is the largest tire I can use on the oem wheels with this kit and recommended spacer w/o rubbing? Thank you!
Keeping your stock wheels will allow you to run a larger tire compared to something with a more aggressive offset. I would say with a 2.5" level you can easily run 33's or even something like a 285/75r18 which essentially is a 35x11. Hope this helps! -Justin
I want to get this kit but a few people.have told me this will put to much of an angle on the CV joint on the half shift. Is this going to be to much for it or will it be ok?
Does the upper control arms stick out further closer to the tire then that factory upper control arms? I have a 2.25 leveling kit with a factory wheel with 295/65R20 tire on and I still have a little gap between the tire and upper control arm. Just needing to know if I really need to get that .25” spacer
How much it squats when towing? something not to heavy, like 4.000 lb. does it keep the good stability as stock when towing? I usually tow, two quad bikes or two Jetsky.
From what I've read, a 2" leveling kit will allow you to run a 275/65R20 tire (basically 34") without any type of rubbing issues or trimming required. While I agree that a little less than the factory +44 offset would provide a more aesthetically pleasing stance, it's my understanding that you can run the 275/65R20's on stock wheels without issue.
What is the net lift in the rear? New block size minus old block size? I have a little over 3 inches of rake and want to get as close to level as possible. I have an 18 xlt fx4. Should I just keep the old blocks on the truck? AT doesn’t sell this kit with the UCAs but without the rear blocks/shocks.
DO NOT BUY!!! This kit will cause your cv axles to blow up in 4 wheel drive. Terrible angle for the axles. The diff would need to be dropped to fix the problem. I wasted so much time and money on this kit
How do you drop the front diff 3 inches on a 2015-2023 F-150? Nobody seems to sell a standalone kit for it like they do for the Chevys, Toyotas, and Rams because of the weird way the brackets connect. Everybody on the internet is just saying "bUy a R3aL liF7 kIt"...............
Is there any concern with cv angle using this kit without the diff dropping some I’ve done some research and a lot of people and forums are saying that with a lift like this it causes a lot of strain on your axel due to the angle the spacer adds thank you in advance for any information.
I wouldn't go any more than 2" as far as aftermarket coilovers or strut spacers. Once you start getting into 2.5" or 3" without diff dropping / drop knuckles, you're really starting to push the limits of the cv axles, as well as the upper control arm. 2" is generally considered a safe amount of lift, without having any long term effects on the cv axles or upper ball joints.
@@calebclips1098 Drop kits are generally part of a whole lift kit, usually 3" or higher. At that point, you're talking pretty intense modification, including cutting into the crossmember for fitment of the lift kit.
Lots of questions about cv angle with little information. Here’s the measurements of before and after on a 2011 FX4. Factory CV angle 10 degrees. CV angle after RC 3in lift 25 degrees. I replaced the factory cv’s with Trakmotive extended travel cv’s. Time will tell if they are worth it.
You definitely can. Just be aware that a 3 inch leveling kit is *really* pushing those factory length upper control arms, and the bushings will most likely wear out a bit faster than normal. I'd highly consider getting a set of aftermarket upper control arms if you have the budget. -Zach
@@americantrucks Thank you Zach So it is possible and I can level my truck without changing upper arms and the problem will be only on bushings using duration?
I tow a 35 ft travel trailer with my 2019 f150, will this kit be to high for towing? I'm looking at adding a timdren system as well to help with the sag.
I would absolutely NOT recommend a 3" kit if you plan on towing that heavy. I would go 2" at most along with the rear helper springs/bags. Just my two cents. -Justin
love my f150, its my wonderful buddy trucky... but honestly the, "factory ride" isnt all that great. not if your're old. and fat. and tired from working all day.
o iSlay he probably doesn’t have a garage of tools or space to do it. I didn’t have the space so I paid $580 for labor and got my lift I wanted. Money=Time
They are very rigid. Valve specifically for off road application as primary use. I've run both and for a DD I much prefer the N3s. I feel like I could justify the v2s on a DD if the rear end wasn't so light on the new f150s. My 19 rides rough on the road for sure. Maybe a cab topper or rtt will add some weight and help with this. Just my .2 hope it helps. Cheers
@@L886-b9g thanks! I’m looking at the 2in RC level with n3’s and the bilstien 6112/5160. Both are about the same price. I’ll be upgrading when it’s time to buy new tires.
If the truck is in 2 wheel drive 95% percent of the time where CVs don't spin, will they still wear out prematurely ? I am thinking about this kit but still concerned with CV angles. Thanks.
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What spacer do you recommend to use factory oem 18in wheels on 2016 F150 and what is the largest tire I can use on the oem wheels with this kit and recommended spacer w/o rubbing? Thank you!
Can you tell me how high this sits? 6'8?
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Just completed this installation on my 2014 F-150 Crew Cab XLT following your instruction. Stock tires so far we'll see when those get worn out I'll upgrade to 33's or 35's. A few changes but all-in-all a straightforward installation. bolts/nuts weren't all the same but of course not the same truck. had trouble with removing the brakes. Shop stupidly over torqued the 21 mm bolts. but after applying a 36" 3/4" breakerbar to them they finally gave up the ghost and loosened. From there on it was easy. Upper shock nuts were removed from the engine bay with a impact wrench and an 12" extension. 6.5 hours start to finish including the Brake caliper issue. Note to everyone, make sure you have a good tool set to work with from the beginning. Having everything on hand made the job do smoothly.
Thanks, American Trucks for the informative video showing step by step how to complete this project.
After a year, how does the truck feel? Did you have any problems? I also have a 2014 4x4 and I'm looking to get the 3in lift or the 2in level to put 35s onto my sorck wheels. But I hear people say "don't put a 3in because it ruins the Geometry, just a 2in level is acceptable"
Yea I'm wondering too, I have a 2014. How did it hold up, it's hit or miss with reviews
Should've mentioned that the aftermarket upper control arm has a grease nipple for the ball joint. When regularly greased, you'll get a longer lasting ball joint.
Use a very small amount
@@OfficialRay3 too late
How often?
That was really a well done video for installing the rough country kit! It was informative but not over the top to discourage the average DIY'R! Thank you for posting!
Thanks for the love, Ben! -Zach
By far the very best installation video I’ve ever seen on UA-cam. Great job Joe!!! I’m sold on this lift kit.
I bet you didn't even buy it.
Tire kicker
@@eighteennakedcowboys nice bait troll. I’ve been rocking RC’s 3” lift for 6+ months and no issues.
I think you guys need an updated video...i guess I'll have to offer my truck, wouldn't want you guys out there with nothing to install it on 😂👍
I just installed the RC Vertex 3" kit and I did notice the CV angles are at extreme. I saw a show on TruckU, season 17 black F150 if you want to watch, that talked about Trakmotive Extended travel CV axles. They have new technology with CV extended angles for lifts like this. But after finally talking to Trakmotive they said that show on TruckU was experimental and those CV axles arnt available yet! Nobody makes extended travel CV axles like Trackmotive is about to produce. As of july of 16, 22 they said maybe 3 or 4 more months and they might be ready.
I’m exactly about to buy thomrm right now for my 2014. Napa auto had some but didn’t work for me
Your videos are well done and very helpful. If you could include actual tire size instead of just 33s or 35s along with wheel size offset and backspace. That would be so helpful.
I’ve watched a lot of videos about installing leveling and lift kits. This is the first one to ever mention the IWE actuator and pressures. How are they just pulling off the axle hub without damaging it?
If you know the IWE system on these things (and it sounds like you do) then you know pulling vacuum is required per the Ford manual. Not doing so will risk IWE/Hub damage- I can't speak to other videos, maybe they don't speak to it or don't show it, but I will always recommend following the manufacturers procedures with intricate systems such as this. -Justin
Yes that's the first time I've seen this done as well ,,👍
You can pull it apart with out vacuum, the problem is if you don't use vacuum when reinstalling. You can reinstall without vacuum, but you have to make sure that the splines are aligned/engaged before tightening everything down.
If only they all came off that easy.
These shocks would be more ideal for construction off roading as you said
GREAT video!!! Awesome detail!! Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for watching, Jonathan! We appreciate it! -Zach
Well thought suspension system, every nut and bolt so accessible to remove all the parts effortless.
You can fit 35’s on a 2 inch level on a 2wd they rip on the little wind deflector inside the bumper that reflects the air around the tire
I don't wanna spend the money on a 6 inch lift. Iam get the 3inch lift. And see if I can make. That's 37inch tires fit I might have to do some cutting on my bumper and inside
I've heard 3" is pushing the limits on the cvs.
American Trucks, can you respond to this please?
@@matthewparker9463 That's what the new upper control arms are for no?
@@zachddt7589 No that addresses the upper ball joint angle, but you can't fix the CV angle without dropping the front axle which the 4"+ kits do.
It does it’s terrible do not buy this kit
@@BallLikeAGirl ohhh stop .....Debbie downer .....3” dose not kill the cv joint
Why would you remove the knuckle and brakes? They do not stop the struts from coming out. You wasted a ridiculous amount of time doing that
The only thing I didn't like about the video was you should never tighten down the upper control arm bushings until the weight of the truck is on the ground. You don't want the bushings having to much tension on them.
This kit needs to come with a differential drop. With this 3” lift and 35’s, it puts the axles at too sharp an angle. It has caused several of my front end components to wear and need replaced within a year of installing this kit. I am having to get an off-road shop to custom make a differential drop since I can’t order one anywhere. I would go with the 4” kit since it comes with needed parts to keep axles at the correct/straight angle they were designed to be in most of the time.
For your custom diff drop, did you need to cut your frame - similar to the 4” lift kits out there?
@@NeonTuner524 no, the guy I had to do it just welded a couple pieces on that lower the differential to bolt to. He did it just low enough to where he didn’t have to cut anything. But he didn’t do a very good job welding so I’m gonna have to get it redone. I will probably just wait and order the four-inch kit when I can that comes with the brackets and everything already.
@@JamCar99 thanks for the quick response - I wish I could see what that bracket looks like. I have a welder and would just emulate on my end.
this music reminded me of playing Italian job lol
Reminded me of The Waterboy lol
Just ordered this kit and Raptor wheels and tires. Hope they fit with this.
Have you had any problems after installing this kit?
1K thumbs up by me, just doing my part!
Thanks for watching! -Zach
Dude, where can I get the same truck horn you have, buy the way your video was great.
My 2008 expedition has a front suspension very similar to the front suspension in the truck shown in the video. I installed a leveling kit (3 inch front, 2 inch rear) and was able to run close to 34 inch tires with no spacers. LT 285/75 R17, which comes out to about 33.8 overall diameter. I'm not not a huge fan of wheel spacers, though I do understand why they may be necessary, depending on the application. Chances are this lift kit would accommodate a 34 inch tire without the need for spacers, or any other modifications. Looks like a half decent kit, though I'd be curious to know how the aftermarket ball joints and struts hold up long term.
2wd?
I like it with little bit of rake at the back, how many inches is the rake at the back?
Very Informative video. Bought a kit for my 2013 Ford F-150 4X4. Did not notice anything different between this F-150 and mine. except one minor thing. My instructions tell me to disconnect the EPAS. (Electronic Power Assist Steering) they emphasized that this MUST be done. Can you tell me if you disconnected yours? if not is there a difference due to the years make. also your opinion, Not long ago I replaced the IWE on my truck with a Dorman upgrade that eliminated the use of the vacuum line. Its still attached to the IWE (The vacuum line) but it serves no function. I can still switch to 4H and 4L the transfer case responds. I was skeptical at first. But It worked. ??
What is the vacuum pump for? Is it required?
Any idea of a part number for a replacement upper control arm ball joint? Either aftermarket to buy locally at a parts store or from rough country? Thanks
Very nice!
So the only thing that need to be torqued specifically is the hub at 30lbs?
How about mixing the suspension Verter shocks rear..
And little bit taller block for the rake for towing is that possible?
3" block
I bought this on Amazon it says it will fit my 2009 is that true because I can't find anything about older f150s on here
I wonder if you can add a 1” spacer at the top of the new strut assembly for more lift?
Francisco Marquez I wouldn’t do that. The CV axel is really angled to the max with this setup. You’ll also risk the geometry getting out of wack as well.
Any ideas about this kit with stock wheels, 35x12.5, and 1.5in spacers?
How does everyone like the shock in this kIt? Good? The Vertex look crazy but what is the real on road difference really going to be. Cause I dont really want to have a 6' lift but I do want the best shock. Maybe bielsteins?
So with this kit will I be able to fit 20x10 -19 offset with a set of 33x12.50s without any trimming or cutting? I really didn’t want to touch anything
I have 20x10 -25 with 33x12.5 on a 2in level and cut only front crash bars but I did that before install looking at it after I probably didn't need to cut them at all
@@JamesWilliams-uh6vq I think the kit I decided to go with is the 4” lift kit from RC but I’ll be doing 20x9 +18 offset with a set of 295/60/20.....I’ve done some research and asked around and that wheel/tire combo on the lift should be just fine with no cutting or removing of the crash bars
Do camber/caster kits come with this kit? I feel like you would need them for the lower arms on the alignment rack
Hi, thanks for the demo. Can you tell me what wheels are on the truck in this video. Thanks.
Fuel Pump. Not sure about the Dimensions and Offset
The question is does it effect the geometry with the way the cv axels are angled and all. Does it effect it by any means
They’re gonna be at extreme angles just at normal ride height
Yes, too extreme of an angle. I have had many issues. Did you purchase and install this kit?
I just installed a 3" lift kit why the back is higher than the front
Anyone running a tire middle of the road between a 33 and 35 inch. I was looking at installing this lift on a 2018 F150 XLT using the stock alloy rims, spacers and LT295/70R18 tires which run 34.3 inches. Any rubbing or do you absolutely need to stay in a 33 inch class tire to ensure no rubbing.
I know this is an older video but I’m looking at purchasing this kit for my f150, but I do tow an enclosed trailer that’s around 4000-5000lbs loaded. How much would having this kit mess with my towing? Would it squat a bunch?
It will most likely be just fine. If it squats too much you can always buy helper springs or airbags
Why is this kit not offered for the 2wd? What's the difference?
This question needs an answer!!!!
contact Rough Country, ask them.
Where was the review
When disassembling the front suspension, does the vacuum pump step apply to "part time" 4wd as well?
What is the offset on the 35s you put on? Curious as I’m interested in this kit and want 35s. The wheels I want have a -18 offset
Have you done this yet? I'm looking at the same (with 0 offset, though). Curious if you had to remove the front/rear crash bars (if you have a super crew cab).
i got 34s on a leveling kit. you can get 35 on that easy
I was thinking of putting 34s on my 2020 F-150 with a level. Do you need to do any trimming or need a spacer?
@@joed4753 i got wheels with a +12 offset and they fit fine. I did remove that low hanging front air dam lip before hand cuz it looks dumb you may need to remove that but i think long as you dont have no crazy offset youll be fine. My dealer even said 35s fit on it with a + 28 offset
@@buffalobmf thanks. I was hoping to keep the stock wheels since I had them hydrodipped.
@@joed4753 doubt it. the tire will rub on either the coil spring or upper arm. just put a spacer on the stocks wheels to make up for it
So...... I have a 2018 150 fx4. Been doing research left and right. Alot of ppl been saying that a 3" is bad for the accuators on the vehicle. But I'm thinking that's what the control arms are for, for adjustment of the camber so it won't have so much stress and stock control arms???🙄🤔
It’s the axle angle that gave me a problem with this kit. I have had several front end components go out after only a year. I am having an off-road shop do a custom differential drop to get my axles back to a more conducive angle. Actuators are one of the things I had to replace. In retrospect, I would go with the 4” lift because it addresses this problem.
I've watched like 3 F150 Leveling kit installs on American Trucks channel and none mention the IWE vacuum - SO is it needed or just an added precaution?
Same question I have. The other F150 videos do not apply a vacuum to disengage the IWE. Why does this video?
I don’t see how Changing the upper control arm fixes the CV angle. Many of your other videos say anything more than 2.5” on these trucks will destroy CVs. Kinda contradicting yourself.
How do you guys miss that the ball joint stud angle is much steeper. The steeper angle compensates for the lifted height, therefore keeping the cv angles close to factory. Stop skipping through the video and listen.
In what way does changing the ball joint angle effect cv angle. Changing the ball joint angle prevents the upper ball joint from getting in a bind, but the cv shaft is still 2.5” lower than factory.
@@derrickmorrison1022 cvs are nowhere close to factory angle with this kit!
I just bought this lift, I have 20x9 with 32. X 11.2
Is this going to be ok?
Are those 35’s in metric by chance? If so what are they?!
ive got a 2018 f150 you can switch it from 4wd to 2wd will this lift kit work on it
Will this work on regular cab longbed 2020 4x2? Rough country told me driveshaft will have issue
Too bad this ain’t available for the 04-08 trucks
Would the springs on these coil overs included in the kit be okay with my aftermarket 270 lb front bumper? I have a 2014 f150 Lariat 4x4
Does this kit come with the torque specs so you know what to torque everything back to?
Just got mine and yes it does
What about the CV angles?
you just get fucked on that i guess. i almost ordered this till i looked more into it
john russo does this destroy CV angles ?
Thank you ;-)
Patrick Amos youll go through a lot of those they dont re-angle them for you. Just look at the video youll see how extreme the angles are at.. Plus rough country shocks and struts are garbage
john russo oh crap. I’m running away from this fast! Thanks man!
john russo those angles are sagging because its in the air lol... there alot more even on the ground i got a halo 3 inch in my truck my brothers got this kit and the thing rides the same.... only difference is i paid 2800$ he paid 800$
34 or 35 tires. ? 20 or 18 wheels
What tires and rims are shown in the video? Thanks
Newbie question; why would you need to disengage 4 wheel drive by the pump maneuver? Does that part stay locked in even though 4 wheel drive isn't engaged inside the vehicle i.e. without shifting into neutral and switching the selector over?
vacuum line disengages the hub while the truck is running and in 2wd
Can't figure out how this wouldn't fit on a 2wd, size of the strut maybe?
Yea that’s what I’m trying to figure out because I really want this lift!!!
This will work on a 2wd the 4x4 and 2wd drive stock struts are the same so I don’t see why it wouldn’t work
Question: Why do level kits (2" RC) come with blocks for the rear? I am wanting to remove the rake, how do rear modifications come into play? I don't think I will be installing the rear blocks...
Some kits provide an overall lift in addition to leveling the rake which would explain the rear blocks. Rear modifications would be minimal to none as it's just a block that sandwiches in between the leaf spring and the axle with longer U-bolts.
So if you only get 2.5 inch of lift why not just get a 2.5 inch level
Thanks for the video! I maybe missed something. Why remove the brakes and knuckle? I installed a Bilstein 5100 kit on mine without removing the brakes or knuckle. What part of this kit required those to be removed? Or is it just a better way to do the install?
Matthew Emrick I just did this install and the reason for removing the caliper is because when you pry or push down on the lower control arm to remove the strut the brake line gets in a bind imo. As for removing the entire knuckle I don't feel it is necessary as the added weight of the knuckle helps push the lower control arm down. Hope this helps!
What about the cv axle angles?
Torn between this or bds rough country was just completely trash on my 2000 grand Cherokee shocks went within 8 months
Anyone try to clear 37’s on this kit with some prerunner fenders?
Great video. Does the extreme angle of the CV axles produced by this leveling kit cause problems with premature wear of the CV joints and boots?
They torn mine in less than 1000 miles 😂 🗑
So how many inches are the rear blocks?
How tf do I get the bottom of the strut in
Can you run 12.5 wides?
Anyone try installing these shocks on a 2wd 2018?
What tire set.up is this?
Torqued my axle/hub nut to 30ft/lbs and it sheared the axle stem. Cost me $1,000…
with the RC 3.5 lift on a 2020 Silverado, can I use the same wheels, different tires?
Nevermind, just heard you say it!!! LOL
@AmericanTrucks Ford
What spacer do you recommend to use factory oem 18in wheels on 2016 F150 and what is the largest tire I can use on the oem wheels with this kit and recommended spacer w/o rubbing? Thank you!
Keeping your stock wheels will allow you to run a larger tire compared to something with a more aggressive offset. I would say with a 2.5" level you can easily run 33's or even something like a 285/75r18 which essentially is a 35x11. Hope this helps! -Justin
Do you have to get an alignment after you install this lift?
Always
Bro has a 10mm socket!! I can never find those
We have plenty of extras here at AT! -Zach
I want to get this kit but a few people.have told me this will put to much of an angle on the CV joint on the half shift. Is this going to be to much for it or will it be ok?
3" is a bit extreme without factoring in some new upper control arms. -Justin
The question was about the cv angle??
@@americantrucks but what about the cv angles not the uca’s? Thx
@@62willy1 way too much of an angle!
Does the upper control arms stick out further closer to the tire then that factory upper control arms? I have a 2.25 leveling kit with a factory wheel with 295/65R20 tire on and I still have a little gap between the tire and upper control arm. Just needing to know if I really need to get that .25” spacer
On a 2017 F150
How much it squats when towing? something not to heavy, like 4.000 lb. does it keep the good stability as stock when towing? I usually tow, two quad bikes or two Jetsky.
what part of off-road did you not get?
“Something heavy”
“4000 pounds” haha you’re funny
But yeah, this will be just fine
What leveling kit would allow me to fit 34" tires and 20" rims without rubbing on a 2019 4x4 regular cab f150?
I would say a 2" level paired with a higher offset (such as +20 to +44) would be the way to roll. :pun intended: -Justin
@@americantrucks
Hahaha thanks Justin. Will pick up the fast wheel tomahawks and keep rollin rollin rollin
@@americantrucks does a 2.5" leveling kit allow 35" tires without rubbing on 2015 f150? I'm looking for lowest cost to add 35" tires.
@@jrossnjax7 Yes but the wheels must have an around stock offset (+44) before requiring trimming.
From what I've read, a 2" leveling kit will allow you to run a 275/65R20 tire (basically 34") without any type of rubbing issues or trimming required. While I agree that a little less than the factory +44 offset would provide a more aesthetically pleasing stance, it's my understanding that you can run the 275/65R20's on stock wheels without issue.
What is the net lift in the rear? New block size minus old block size? I have a little over 3 inches of rake and want to get as close to level as possible. I have an 18 xlt fx4. Should I just keep the old blocks on the truck? AT doesn’t sell this kit with the UCAs but without the rear blocks/shocks.
Matthew did you install this. I read you cant for the fx4. I am curious i have the same truck
@@adamsnyder5192 I just ended up installing a 2” Rough Country billet aluminum spacer. Happy with it.
Did it level the truck ? Because I just installed the same and the back is higher than the front
Plz bring justin back.....
He didn't go anywhere! Our other hosts need love too. ❤️ -Zach
no offense but justin does a much better job at explaining things in a non-cringy way than any other hosts.
DO NOT BUY!!! This kit will cause your cv axles to blow up in 4 wheel drive. Terrible angle for the axles. The diff would need to be dropped to fix the problem. I wasted so much time and money on this kit
It can be placed 3 inches in front. or recommends 2.5 in front. spencer
How do you drop the front diff 3 inches on a 2015-2023 F-150? Nobody seems to sell a standalone kit for it like they do for the Chevys, Toyotas, and Rams because of the weird way the brackets connect. Everybody on the internet is just saying "bUy a R3aL liF7 kIt"...............
Is there any concern with cv angle using this kit without the diff dropping some I’ve done some research and a lot of people and forums are saying that with a lift like this it causes a lot of strain on your axel due to the angle the spacer adds thank you in advance for any information.
I wouldn't go any more than 2" as far as aftermarket coilovers or strut spacers. Once you start getting into 2.5" or 3" without diff dropping / drop knuckles, you're really starting to push the limits of the cv axles, as well as the upper control arm. 2" is generally considered a safe amount of lift, without having any long term effects on the cv axles or upper ball joints.
@@Sagittarius-88 Do they make diff drop kits for F150 though?
@@calebclips1098 Drop kits are generally part of a whole lift kit, usually 3" or higher. At that point, you're talking pretty intense modification, including cutting into the crossmember for fitment of the lift kit.
This kit causes your cv axles to blow up in four wheel drive almost immediately. Angles are horrible. Either do 2” or 4” lift or more
Lots of questions about cv angle with little information. Here’s the measurements of before and after on a 2011 FX4. Factory CV angle 10 degrees. CV angle after RC 3in lift 25 degrees. I replaced the factory cv’s with Trakmotive extended travel cv’s. Time will tell if they are worth it.
can I level 3inch without replacing upper control arms?
You definitely can. Just be aware that a 3 inch leveling kit is *really* pushing those factory length upper control arms, and the bushings will most likely wear out a bit faster than normal. I'd highly consider getting a set of aftermarket upper control arms if you have the budget. -Zach
@@americantrucks Thank you Zach
So it is possible and I can level my truck without changing upper arms and the problem will be only on bushings using duration?
@@alikharutyunyan2657 Yeah but you'll basically run through balljoints faster and your cv axles will be a little worse.
Where can you find that pump at?
Harbor Freight $22
I tow a 35 ft travel trailer with my 2019 f150, will this kit be to high for towing? I'm looking at adding a timdren system as well to help with the sag.
I would absolutely NOT recommend a 3" kit if you plan on towing that heavy. I would go 2" at most along with the rear helper springs/bags. Just my two cents. -Justin
love my f150, its my wonderful buddy trucky... but honestly the, "factory ride" isnt all that great. not if your're old. and fat. and tired from working all day.
Mine rides like a Cadillac! And I’m a pretty big guy
Would 35 fit
With 12 offset
What year we talking Zaid? -Justin
@@americantrucks Hey! so 2019 F-150. will 35's fit?? +2 Offset
How bug is the new block ?
So 900 for parts and another 1000 for labor.
labor shouldn't be over 250
do it urself it not hard. at all just have a day in the garage
and a buddy
Do it yur self pussy hahahahahawaawwwwwwwww
o iSlay he probably doesn’t have a garage of tools or space to do it. I didn’t have the space so I paid $580 for labor and got my lift I wanted. Money=Time
Do I grease thr nipples of the ball joint?
How do the n3’s ride vs the v2?
They are very rigid. Valve specifically for off road application as primary use. I've run both and for a DD I much prefer the N3s. I feel like I could justify the v2s on a DD if the rear end wasn't so light on the new f150s. My 19 rides rough on the road for sure. Maybe a cab topper or rtt will add some weight and help with this. Just my .2 hope it helps. Cheers
@@L886-b9g thanks! I’m looking at the 2in RC level with n3’s and the bilstien 6112/5160. Both are about the same price. I’ll be upgrading when it’s time to buy new tires.
@@calgreen44 no problem at all. Glad to help offer any helpful feedback to help someone out. Take care
THATS a 3"!?? Wtfff that's huge
3" is a solid lift! Definitely more than a subtle leveling kit. Hope our video helped out! -Zach
No need for the rear lift
so you just get screwed on the CV then. better off not buying it and getting the 4in or 6in so you dont spend a bunch on new CV's every 8months
If the truck is in 2 wheel drive 95% percent of the time where CVs don't spin, will they still wear out prematurely ? I am thinking about this kit but still concerned with CV angles. Thanks.
Garbage big time!!!!
Don't waist your money!!!!!!
How so? Just purchased this
DillPill did u install it?