"He's Peta's worst nightmare." Well at least he keeps the animals alive when he kidnaps them. Unlike Peta who kidnapped pets from people's yards and euthanized them. Eggman > Peta.
Did you know that Archie Comics did a proper crossover? And that in said crossover Dr. Wily was absolutely terrified of Robotnik because of his nonchalant attitude towards murder? Robotnik straight up hurls Dr Light out of a helicopter and Dr Wily is appalled
@@senatorpoppinfresh Me: Watches the Deathbattle Zero Vs. Metal Sonic LOL Nope! Fail! XD And even without the proof Zero would wreck Metal Sonic big time! XD
@@yapyapthedestroyer2562 Actually yes. Mecha Sonic was technically Metal Sonic’s prototype. Which if you’ve seen the SMBZ series, is actually a part of that spinoff’s lore. Metal was designed to be superior to sonic in every way but he could never do so because he’s eggman’s creation, As Eggman doesn’t actually want to win and just keep their war going on in perpetuity. This has never been resolved in canon, but in SMBZ, his response was to integrate his former failed counterparts and prototypes (including Silver and ironically mecha Sonic who he adopted the name of, yes I know it’s confusing) and used it to surpass even his creator.
@@yapyapthedestroyer2562 You don’t know the half of it. The older you go with the sonic franchise the deeper, and oftentimes stranger, the lore gets. Most people do like mecha sonic’s look better, which is probably the reason why it was used as the main antagonist in Super Mario Bros Z.
I feel like this one should definitely get remade, this is still one of my favourite Death Battle episodes after so many years and want it to get remade to see it get topped
I know a lot of people complain about the ending, but this fight is really good. Instead of a test of brute strength, it is a test of intelligence and their armies. This isn't a simple fight to the death, but a war.
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They should absolutely redo this episode. The closest thing we've had to an all out war like this was in Ultron vs Sigma and the fight was more centric on Ultron and Sigma in particular. Plus, with updated voice acting, research and animation, it could be a great watch imo
personally I think Eggman survived at the end, that man is surprisingly resilient, he survived several powerful explosions and being manhandled by godlike entities, while Wily relies on an escape drone to get out of situations
For those arguing Wily should've had Zero in this... A. Zero was never used in Wily's lifetime B. Zero is not loyal to Wily, he befriended the guy that Wily made him to destroy. 3. Why waste Zero here? Wouldn't it be better for Zero to have his own Death Battle?
The irony about Zero is that in the end Wily proved he was superior even if it was in a completely different way than he would have wanted. Zero succeeded where Mega and X failed miserably and achieved the original goal of the two. To create a form of AI that could truly be humanity's equal. He will be remembered as a legendary hero, and the savior of humans and reploids while X will likely be remembered as Weil's puppet thanks to Copy X.
really smart here by both doctors. Eggman - I'm going to make a robot that's incredibly overpowered, but also hard for me to control! wily - ha, I'm going to make it so you CAN'T control it!
+Raptormann0205 megaman.wikia.com/wiki/Roboenza Technically it should take a month for Roboenza to MAYBE make metal sonic go mad. So really Wily should have lost to the massive eggfleet and metal sonic.
yeah, but doesn't change the fact that was his ultimate creation (as a roboth) with an overhelming ability. Even if he doesn't have the chance to see it in action he actually make use of him becoming the cause of one of the greatest wars in megaman universe, the Maverick Virus; which he actually made in his life time but instead of using it right away he downloaded the virus in Zero.
Steal-man Alpha well by that logic eggman should have used omega despite the fact that all omega wants is to murder him since he is arguably one of his strongest robots,not that it would make a difference with metal overlord however
the thing with metal sonic is that he is actually a lesser being than many of sigma's forms which zero kills 16 times total in all 8 games of the megaman X trilogy as the entire X trilogy paints the premise as robot evolution which is the fundamental premise of metal sonic anyways, also in x8 zero is part of a team that kills someone classified as a GOD. Given this zero theoretically would have influenced the fight tremendously.
gofer123guy however it took super sonic,super tails and super knuckles to even stand a chance to meta overlord,even as neo metal sonic if zero is truly that great he woud just liquify himself and transform into him(as seen in sonic heroes),not that it matters since he was not activated until wily died,also metal sonic was not made to copy abilities,it was a magic gem that he absorbed in sonic 4 that made him copy abilities and disobey eggman.
9:18 10 years later and this is still my favorite moment in any Death Battle. The Robot Masters kickin ass with "We are the Robots" playing as background music. It's so cool.
Okay, confession time. I always, always thought EggRobo was Robotnik with a protective helmet on, right up until now when seeing this video. Seeing as Knuckles was apparently stronger than Sonic and his bosses are more difficult in the Genesis games, I figured Robotnik had merely equipped an extra countermeasure to not get hurt as bad. I guess keeping up with the new franchise would have its pros after all.
Lol I love how they conveniently left out E-123 Omega. He would've made short work of most of Wily's robots. Same can be said for Zero. He would've mollywhopped most of Eggman's arsenal.
@@azarththekobold he didn't create that time eater was a monster that eggman found and mind controled I think eggman would win against Dr.wily but he did not create time eater.
I would love for this to be remade, especially with the a newer games being used. Wily side: double gear system, Zero, newer robot masters, etc. Egg man: wisps, Egg Dragoon, etc.
MrFluffyman12 I could definitely imagine that as a One Minute Melee, actually. To be honest- if neither of their transforming capabilities (IE. Super Bass, Metal Madness/Overlord) don't come into play, I could see Bass winning that one.
BatmanLives001 Well not really- in Metal Overlord form, it's a stomp in Metal Sonic's favour, but in their default forms, I think it would definitely be closer.
EVERYONE SHUT UP ABOUT ZERO! A. Zero was never used in Wily's lifetime B. Zero is not loyal to Wily, he befriended the guy that Wily made him to destroy. C. Why waste Zero here? Wouldn't it be better for Zero to have his own Death Battle?
Well.... A. Unconfirmed but it's been strongly eluded that he did activate during that lifetime and fuck shit up. B. Also unconfirmed about his loyalty but it's eluded that he isn't. C. Point taken... Besides I feel like Metal sonic would win anyway.... not that dying is that big of an issue for zero. Zero just isn't fast enough. Metal sonic would get infected with the Zero Virus and be pretty much the same anyway and then kill Zero.
Nick Jones Zero Actually had a program error causing him to be exactly like Omega from Zero3 minus the god complex and loyalty so it would be stupid for Wily to release Zero, yes I know that he's done some stupid stuff, but never that stupid!
I don't think the Roboenza would've turned Metal Sonic into an unstable robot that quickly. Also, the disease kills infected robots, but yes, the survivors do get turned violent.
Considering how often uninfected Hyper Metal Sonic turns on Eggman, it makes complete sense especially with a battlefield of powerful robot corpses to copy and absorb
Well, even when Metal Sonic is loyal to Eggman, he still has his own personality & free will, so seeing him turn so quickly doesn’t really surprise me.
In Mega Man 10 itself, in the intro, it said that the disease made the infected robots malfunction, and it was a month after the outbreak that some of the robots turned violent. As shown with Roll, not all the affected robots were turned violent. She was still her normal self.
This is an Awsome death battle. The amount of characters was great, they let the personality of both contenders shine while in battle, and had a bad@ss ending that left both fans of the spectrum satisfied. I actually wish Screw attack would do more team battles, it's a lot more action packed compared to one on ones.
Wow! I clearly remember watching this when it first came out. I had been watching Death Battle for at least a year at that time. This was, and still is, my favorite episode! Especially the scene at the end with Metal Sonic’s final form. That was literally the coolest thing I’d ever seen at the time!
To anyone who thinks Zero would beat Metal Sonic, keep in mind Metal's copy ability. All he has to do is watch something fight for a while and he can copy it's data perfectly, taking full advantage of it's strengths and accounting for it's weaknesses. This is how Metal became the Metal Overlord in Heroes, he copied the fighting data from all of the other characters, took advantage of their strong points and did away with their weaknesses. Even Super Sonic alone couldn't defeat him. Don't get me wrong, Zero is strong, really really strong. One of the biggest badasses in the Megaman timeline. But as soon as Metal copies Zero's data, it's over. Zero couldn't win alone and without a significant powerup after the data copy took place. I mean, look what happened to Bass here. Metal Overlord didn't even copy his data and he was destroyed as easily as stepping on an ant. Take into consideration Super Sonic's power for a moment. Sonic without the power up is capable of moving his legs fast enough to run faster than the speed of sound. Super Sonic is able to move even faster than that without even having to touch the ground, and in fact gains the ability to fly without any clear means of doing so. Super Sonic has shown the ability to defeat monsters described as being godlike in power (Probably closer in power to around what the Greek gods would be capable of) on his own, and even he couldn't even scratch Metal Overlord without the help of his friends. Zero is a badass, but he's not god tier badass. Metal Sonic has the edge here. That isn't to say that nobody in the Megaman timeline could win against Metal Overlord though In the ZX series Grey and Ashe prove themselves to be god tier at the end of ZXA, and Vent and Aile were both capable of holding their own against them. That's enough evidence to say that anyone who uses the power of the biometal could potentially beat Metal Overlord, but they would have to work as a team if he were to scan any of their data, especially Grey or Ashe who have multiple life form data's. As for this video, I would count this to be an Eggman win. Why? Because his creation killed Wily. Yes, it also killed him due to Roboenza, but that's not really relevant because Metal between Sonic CD and Sonic Heroes was still capable of betraying Eggman at any time at a whim, and in fact this is exactly what happened in Heroes. So as far as we know, Metal never really even got affected by the Roboenza. He came into contact with it, but it easily could have done nothing and Eggman would still have been killed by Metal Overlord. Therefore, Wily doesn't get the Roboenza bonus points to make it a draw, and so even though Eggman himself was killed, it was one of his creations that was left functioning at the end, and not one of Wily's.
+Crow Rising "Zero is a badass, but he's not god tier badass." Zero was able to defeat an immortal cyborg fused with an orbital laser cannon space station (Weil after merging with Ragnarok), not to mention a hyper souped up version of his own original body inhabited by the ultimate form of Wily's virus (Omega (in all forms) possessed by the Dark Elf, a corrupted version of the final cure for the Maverick/Sigma virus), all within an inferior Reploid version of his body. This is the same Omega that was responsible for some of the worst atrocities in the entirety of the MM universe during the Elf Wars, a calamity in which 90% of all Reploids and 60% of all humans died, outdoing even the Eurasia colony drop. They didn't call Omega the God of Destruction and the Devil Reploid for nothing. Depending on how you interpret what happens after MMZ4 and before ZX, Zero even survives orbital reentry to become the Biometal known as Model Z, which later fuses with Model X to become Model ZX, the most godawfully overpowered of all the Biometals (aside from Models O and W, which he also defeated), capable of taking out Albert himself and his legions of Reploids and Pseudoroids. He even fended off four Biometal users by himself as a Biometal, without Model X or a human/Reploid host. I'd say that's god tier badass. Some people in the comments are making a big deal out of the Death Egg and Robotnik's various facilities around Mobius, as well as his battle fleets. I guess they forgot that Wily had the Megaman Killers, Doc Robot, Ra Thor, Jet King Robo, numerous weaponised castles, the Wily Battleship, Gamma, and even the Wily Star, not to mention all those other bosses and sub-bosses. I also see people making the argument that only the Zero defeated by Sigma should count, as it's the only body created by Wily. To that I say, bollocks. MMZ Zero is the same individual - his memories and mental data are the same, even with an inferior 'copy' body. As for this video, there were a ton of factors left out on both sides of the equation, so I don't think it's very accurate. That aside, even if one were to include all of the things I've mentioned, it's a safe bet that neither Wily nor Robotnik would have won in the end.
Model X was definitely not the original X, yes. What is less certain is whether Model Z is, made from the remains of Zero. Parts of him did, in fact, survive reentry, and the Mother Elf (which mysteriously vanished into the world at the end of MMZ3) has been shown to be more than capable of regenerating him completely. Further, Ciel made the Biometals (with the exceptions of Models O and W) and it is entirely possible that she managed to find enough of Zero's data to preserve him in Biometal form. This is why I said it depends on your interpretation of events between MMZ4 and ZX. There aren't enough facts to say for certain what happened. I think you're confusing the Models with their Megamerge hosts, by the way. The Model is the Biometal entity itself, not the Megamerge. Omega wasn't 'likely' brainwashed by Weil. He was, plain and simple. However, he was also canonically insane, and did actually believe he was a messiah. Omega and Zero were nowhere near to 'evenly matched'. There was a tremendous power level difference there, and the only reason Zero won at all was, as you said, his determination to protect, but also his years of experience in battle. Omega didn't have that, and was insane, overconfident, and reckless to boot. This is why he lost - he didn't have Zero's 'heart'. Zero's question about Omega serving Weil was more pointed at Weil than anything. "Why do you have him programmed to serve you unconditionally if you are so all-powerful?" It was rhetoric meant to show Weil's lack of trust and security, his need to force loyalty as opposed to the willing cooperation that Zero received by working "hand in hand" with Reploids and humans alike. Your logic about Weil's strength being weakness can just as easily be applied to Metal Sonic. Without his visual copy ability, he'd be no match for Sonic, let alone Zero. Model W is not likely the very first Biometal to ever exist. It IS the first. Ciel found the remains of Ragnarok and used W as a blueprint of sorts to develop the other Models. Vent and Aile are nowhere near god tier. They are, as you said, a couple of kids. Kids that are Megamerged with Biometals containing the data and skill and experience of two of the most formidable and unstoppable warriors to ever exist. This is why Giro had to save them. This is why they were able to defeat Omega's cybershadow in Area N. Similarly, Grey and Ashe are extremely weak until they Megamerge with Model A, which is once again a god tier Biometal backup system preprogrammed with tactical information and abilities. Notice that even when Megamerged with A at the start of the game, they are still very weak? That's because A hadn't recovered all of its memories. Albert even confirms this later with the line "You should have recovered all of your memories by now". Conveniently, this is shortly before Albert himself is defeated. This is also why Grey and Ashe are able to defeat Vent and Aile without ZX. Also, you have it backward - the Reploids and Pseudoreploids of the ZX era are considerably weaker than their predecessors. Galleons are weaker than Variants, Variants are weaker than Pantheons, and Pantheons are weaker than X. They're basically watered down x-generation versions of X. (I should note that Variants, mechanically speaking, are stronger than Pantheons in the sense that they can withstand a bit more damage, but generally speaking they are less of a threat as there are less variations of them and their weapons are fairly mediocre, and the increased damage resistance is minimal at best.) Lastly, your final paragraph basically states what I've been saying. Zero's strength wasn't the physical sort. This is beside the point, as he still manages to defeat entities with godlike abilities (what else would you call immortality, raising the dead, and mind controlling an entire planet?). In the end, all you need to achieve godlike status is to beat godlike beings... and Zero managed that with skill, friends, and determination. I guess you could also say it didn't hurt that he was a Wily robot.
Rick Forrest Ciel only made models X and Z. Model W already existed and was found by Albert, and he used it as the blueprint to make models A, F, H, L, and P. This is revealed in one of the flashback like data things that Grey/Ashe find with Model A. He programmed them to only work with people who are genetically related to him. A in particular was made specifically for Grey for them to be a backup successor should his plans fail. He also made the model W's that resemble faces, though they are weaker than the bigger Model W fragments. The only other biometals I am aware of him making are the ones Prometheus and Pandora use, which are never named as far as I know. Model O is a bit of an odd one though. It's not technically a biometal like the other models. It's basically just Omega's head preserved after all this time, with a faint trace of his memories and powers still intact. Model X is able to use it for Double Megamerge, but I doubt it could be used on it's own. Serpent forshadowed Albert being the maker of most of the biometals in Aile's story right near the end. He tells her that the blood of the creator of the biometals flows through all who can use their power, which fits into his limited understanding of how they work as basically a henchman. He doesn't seem to understand that models X and Z are different. Proof that models X and Z are different is Giro himself. He was Ciel's creation, unlike most of the other reploids in existence. If model Z required Albert's DNA to use it, Giro would be unable to. Just like how Model A was made specifically for Grey to use, Model Z was made for Giro. I don't think it's possible for anyone else to use the model Z on it's own, Vent and Aile never gain access to a model Z form, they have to use model X to use model Z. As for Vent and Aile not being god tier, Megamerges don't take control of the user. They still have full body control, they simply gain the power that the biometals grant them. Battle experience is not included, only power. Essentially, it's like handing someone the legendary sword that was used by a legendary hero. Just holding the sword doesn't make you just as skilled as the hero it originally belonged to. This is further supported by them clearly having been training between ZX and ZXA. Vent has learned a new uppercut attack, and Aile has an attack similar to Link's finisher attack in the Legend of Zelda, except it also smashes the ground and creates rock projectiles. Basically what I am saying is that in ZX, they are still just as much "just kids" in ZX form as they are in their transporter uniforms. The only difference is that while megamerged they incredibly powerful weapons, armor, and superhuman physical potential. The reason they can't do sick flips and wall jumps in human form isn't because the biometals grant them additional skill, it's because their bodies become more vulnerable and weak when they aren't megamerged. Your point about Metal Sonic is true. Even with his copy ability, Sonic defeats him on a regular basis. But the thing is, the point of my original comment is in the context of this specific Death Battle. Basically, what I am saying is that if Zero were to win the fight against Metal Sonic, he would have to do it before Metal had enough data to become Metal Overlord. Super Sonic out tiers pretty much everyone in MMZX and ZXA, and him on his own couldn't handle Metal Overlord. He needed the help of his friends to weaken him down and assist in the attack. The true power of base Sonic would be rather hard to calculate, but his speed is a major factor in his capabilities. The faster he moves, the harder he hits. Even if he is only spinning at those high speeds and not actually traveling them, that factors into his attack power, which is what allows him to destroy Eggman's smaller robots in a single hit. Sonic has thinking ability as fast as his feet, which allows him to react to attacks and dodge them, but in terms of defense, pretty much any Megaman character would out tank him. Sonic survives through dodges rather than tanking. So in a Megaman context, Sonic is more of a glass cannon type character. He doesn't become a true god tier until he becomes Super Sonic, at which point all melee weapons (Knuckles wasn't physically able to attack Super Mecha Sonic in Sonic 3) would be useless, and only the most powerful of energy blasts could have an effect on Super Sonic, reducing the amount of time the form lasts. If you are wondering why I am doing this analysis, you will see soon. The Sonic Tier list thus goes like this: Metal Overlord > Super Sonic > Knuckles The strongest melee attacks in the ZX games are Model F's punches, capable of punching through thick walls of the hardest metal in the Megaman Universe. Knuckles' punches are likewise capable of punching through thick sheets of metal and even causing earthquakes, fissures, and eruptions. It's hard to say which between the two is more powerful, but they seem to be pretty close. Neither Model F nor Knuckles are god tier, depsite that punching power. Super Sonic, who is god tier, isn't even fazed by it. So we can use this to merge the Sonic and Megaman tier lists a little bit: Metal overlord > Super Sonic > Model F Vent/Aile in ZX form > Model F, P, H and L team up advantage of 4 to 1 or 2 Model F punch to Vent or Aile however will still do damage, therefore: Super Sonic > Vent/Aile So that gives us the tier list: Metal Overlord > Super Sonic > Vent/Aile > Zero Because we already know that Vent and Aile are stronger than Zero, since they have the same weapons, but higher power capability thanks to model X. They also have the same determination thing going on with them, they not only have those they wish to protect, but a future they wish to protect as well, so determination boost cancels out between them. The last one standing is whoever has the power to last longer. However, Metal Sonic on his own is much weaker, and therefore: Sonic >/= Knuckles > Metal Sonic and Zero > Metal Sonic with insufficient copy data So, the full tier list ends up with: Metal Overlord > Super Sonic > Vent/Aile > Zero >/= Sonic >/= Knuckles > Metal Sonic with insufficient copy data So the end result is basically that Metal Overlord is just way too strong. Zero's determination wouldn't be enough, as the power gap is just too much. Weil combined with Ragnarok is childs play compared to Metal Overlord, especially with that copy ability. Hell, Weil combined with Ragnarok would go under Zero on the tier list, since Zero didn't even need any kind of special transformation to win.
thebasscrss that would be an EPIC battle! it would be epic too see! Ultron crashing and bashing, while Metal sonic will be having a cup of oil ( A drink for Metal sonic )
There's no way anyone can catch up to or destroy the wily capsule. That thing distracts you with horrible noises and zooms at mach speed. Mega man has always wanted to blow that thing up.
@@azizkalb8721 chill it was just a megaman joke. I did always think that thing was indestructible because of how many times wily always escapes in it. I think eggman had this battle won tbh but wily if he wanted to would be 100% better at pleading/escaping than eggman. Though a Zero vs Metal Sonic battle would be sick. Both made by the doctors and both are way more powerful than anything else they have created.
We need an Eggman vs. Wily rematch, especially considering they got a lot more than what was shown both in the episode and over the years of the Sonic & Mega Man series (Wily: Robot Masters from MM6, 8, 9, 11, MM&B, the Mega Man Killers, the Genesis Unit, Double Gear System) (Eggman: The Phantom Ruby, Infinite, Sage, Hard Boiled Heavies, The Deadly Six)
This was my 1st death battle 10 years ago. Before my friend introduced me to death battle he asked me whp would win; having seen the episode already. I am proud to say i surprised him by 100% predicting the end of this video; right up to metal sonic killing everyone while under roboenza
I don't think this episode needs a remake, more like a spiritual successor. Eggman Vs. Bowser Army Battle. Things go back and forth, though eventually Eggman's army begins to keep the advantage, forcing Bowser to step in himself and even things out, with a final brawl which Eggman uses the Death Egg Robot.
The video was set to awnser the question "Who's the deadliest robot commander" Zero never really obeyed Wily, so thats why he didn't appear in this video But no worries After all there is a Death Battle in which Zero Cuts Metal Sonic in Half
As base Ratchet vs Jak, definitely Jak. But if Ratchet has access to the weaponry thoughout the games, Jak doesn't stand a chance, Ratchet's weaponry (and armory) is far more ridiculous and advanced than in Jaks games.
Jak and Daxter would beat Ratchet & Clank also because even if Ratchet doesn't get defeated by Dark Jak, he still has Light Jak as a plan B and he can even get time frozen to attack.
Fitting as Eggman's plans seem to constantly go way over his head. They always grow more powerful and beyond his own imagination and control. His last plot in the comics did this with the metal virus.
Shredder vs. Wolverine Joanna Dark vs. Lara Croft Arbiter vs. Predator Bayonetta vs. Morrigan Dante vs. Vincent Valentine Rayne vs. Witchblade Nariko vs. Prince of Persia Ganondorf vs. Sephiroth Godzilla vs. Gamera Ryu vs. Liu Kang Ken Masters vs. Terry Bogard Voltron vs. Megazord Gypsy Danger vs. Cloverfield monster Avatar Korra vs. Storm Darth Vader vs. Voldemort
I didn't know anything about SMBZ until recently around last year or two. But, of course, going through the analysis of Dr. Eggman, it's more focusing on the robots from the original game canon(even though the SWAT Bots and Scratch and Grounder from the cartoons were thrown into the mix). So, the Mecha Sonic Mk.II is the one from the game canon rather than the fan sprite animation series.
Lets be honest, you infect a insanely powerful robot that can turn into a combination of perfect chaos and that robot ultimate life form thing for adventure two, with roboenza which would make it crazy absurd...yea, that’s stupid, very stupid.
"He's Peta's worst nightmare." Well at least he keeps the animals alive when he kidnaps them. Unlike Peta who kidnapped pets from people's yards and euthanized them. Eggman > Peta.
True, that's how my tortise died
yea
Eggman gives jobs back to the animal class
#MakeMobiusGreatAgain
@@jameswork-grierson8923 *sigh* another Robotnik supporter. What has Mobius come to?
We all know
Wily: “I have the strongest robots in the world”
Eggman: “ *I have an announcement* “
*SUPER PISS LASER ACTIVATE*
@@cristinagomez3283 Boom 💥
More like: I have a metal sonic
@@camerondurham3923 Exactly XD!
you forget zero of willy
Imagine getting a remastered version of this with a bigger budget.
If they use comics
Metal sonic will shred everything
@@painvillegaming4119 and it'd look badass
@@GigaLigma oh yeah
Either we get this as a rematch or we get Bowser Vs Eggman(My most wanted).
a rematch where they do it with no robots
eggman uses his eggness and Willy uses his ninjitsu (they say he knows some)
Did you know that Archie Comics did a proper crossover? And that in said crossover Dr. Wily was absolutely terrified of Robotnik because of his nonchalant attitude towards murder? Robotnik straight up hurls Dr Light out of a helicopter and Dr Wily is appalled
“You _TRIED_ to kill Thomas?”
@@IrregularHunterDash "dude. DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE?!"
That's funny
Really 😲
The Sonic series IS a lot more violent and over the top than the Classic Megaman. The Megaman X on the other hand...
This is delightfully different. Rather than a duel between two warriors, this is a war between two generals.
We need more of this.
Not to mention one of the Elite soldiers became the ruler of the world at the end.
@@MeowHype Zero: Aight, time to clean up this mess!
@@Christin-Eleven As awesome as Zero is, Metal Sonic simply outclasses him. Don't even need to play the Sonic games to see that.
@@senatorpoppinfresh Me: Watches the Deathbattle Zero Vs. Metal Sonic
LOL Nope! Fail! XD
And even without the proof Zero would wreck Metal Sonic big time! XD
Ok to admit, Sheep man has a far more advanced A.I. than Grounder & Scratch
eggman vs lex luthor tht would b a good 1 bcuz they both use machines
It depend son what you mean by ai do you mena to the point of replicating emotion or more like a sophisticated algarithum
What was Robotnik smoking when he created them?
@CerealCat449
*"UnLiKe ThE oThErS, tHeSe WiLl Be InTeLlIgEnT."*
Everyone has more brain power than Grounder and Scratch.
As a SMBZ fan, seeing Mecha sonic taken out so easily broke my suspension of disbelief.
SMBZ buffed mecha sonic a lot compared to his Canon counterpart
Was mecha sonic replaced by metal sonic?
@@yapyapthedestroyer2562 Actually yes. Mecha Sonic was technically Metal Sonic’s prototype. Which if you’ve seen the SMBZ series, is actually a part of that spinoff’s lore.
Metal was designed to be superior to sonic in every way but he could never do so because he’s eggman’s creation, As Eggman doesn’t actually want to win and just keep their war going on in perpetuity. This has never been resolved in canon, but in SMBZ, his response was to integrate his former failed counterparts and prototypes (including Silver and ironically mecha Sonic who he adopted the name of, yes I know it’s confusing) and used it to surpass even his creator.
@@alphastronghold715 wow, the lore be deep. Kinda like mecha sonics design more than metals. Also silver is also pretty neat
@@yapyapthedestroyer2562 You don’t know the half of it. The older you go with the sonic franchise the deeper, and oftentimes stranger, the lore gets.
Most people do like mecha sonic’s look better, which is probably the reason why it was used as the main antagonist in Super Mario Bros Z.
I feel like this one should definitely get remade, this is still one of my favourite Death Battle episodes after so many years and want it to get remade to see it get topped
I know a lot of people complain about the ending, but this fight is really good. Instead of a test of brute strength, it is a test of intelligence and their armies. This isn't a simple fight to the death, but a war.
the best thing is that it ended due to their idiocracy
@@FallenHalo000
I’d say it’s more their hubris than anything.
@@arnahunas4048 would you call it a smart move to make an ultimate weapon go mad?
@@FallenHalo000 it’s not but anyone with inflated ego would do that if it meant that someone they saw as lesser would be destroyed
@@kingofthezinger9777 Doesn't make the other guy any better.
*meanwhile, E-123 Omega and Zero are seen on a beach with sunglasses on*
Zero: did you hear something?
E-123 Omega: Negative.
Along with The Darkmen, Rathor and Sunstar
That explains why Zero didn’t make a appearance in the fight.
Along with E-123 Omega
Sarah Charles then zero kicked Metal Sonic’s ass.
That doesn't seem very accurate. Zero's not a big fan of bots named Omega.
We need another death battle like this, who agrees with me?
Yeah
Me
A remake would be nice
Thank god we got ultron vs sigma
Like a war between factions? Like Klingons vs the first order?
Imagine throwing Super Mario Bros Z Mecha Sonic in there. Fight over. Instantly
That would be a fate worse than death
I mean technically the Mecha Sonic from SMBZ IS Metal Sonic so...
Yup
Until zero kick his ass
@@marxjevilanddimentio9184 Idk dude. SMBZ Mecha Sonic is insanely powerful
Only one of them pissed on the moon, so there's our winner.
Eggman battled Sonic multiple times in space and even battled in a different dimension in GENERATIONS
Matt Jassen bruh he was referring to Eggman
@God Sammit yes I know
R.I.P
GREATEST CREATION EVER
METAL SONIC
1993-2012/2013
legendary reference 👑
eggman if he pee'd on the moon: *SNOOPING AS USUAL I SEE!!!!*
Eggman would have easily won if he just gave out an announcement and used his SUPER LASER PISS
I would like to make an announcement Dr Wily is a ######## ########### he ###### on my ####### robot's ; that's right he took his metallic ####### holy #### out and he ###### on my ####### robot's and he said his #### was this big and I said that's disgusting so I'm making a callout post on my Twitter .com Dr Wily you got a small #### it's the size of this walnut except way smaller and guess what here's what my #### look's like *swish* that's right #### all ######, no Quill's, no pillows look at that it look's like 2 ##### and a #### he ###### my robot's so guess what I'm gonna #### the Earth that's right this is what you get my super laser #### except I'm not gonna #### on the Earth I'm going to go higher I'm ####### on the moon how do you like that ##### I ###### on the moon you ##### you have 23 hour's before the #### droplet's hit the ####### Earth now get ### ## ## ####### sight before I #### on you too.
‘ why you got hot sauce on yo head cuh ? ‘
imran a I put hot sauce on everything; From Twinkies to milk.
『The Exalted Threshold』 Wily fucked eggman’s wife
it worked on the moon.
They should absolutely redo this episode. The closest thing we've had to an all out war like this was in Ultron vs Sigma and the fight was more centric on Ultron and Sigma in particular. Plus, with updated voice acting, research and animation, it could be a great watch imo
This is probably one of the best Deathbattles in my opinion.
It showcased counters accordingly
And now it's up to Sonic and Mega Man to stop this mess.
+SoulHero7 Might aswell throw in Pacman, Rayman and Mario, and just call this a SSB episode o3o
Typical day of hero.
ayyye
***** I support this idea.
+SoulHero7 ...Sonic Man?
Dr. Wily: I have the strongest robots
Dr. Eggman: But I have Metal Sonic
Dr. Wily: And I have Zero
Mecha Sonic: I'LL CRUSH YOU!!
It’s WILY!
I have 70 alternate accounts
Zero >super mecha sonic
@@marxjevilanddimentio9184 Metalix: ahahah, Funny!
@@sium1241 zero >all mecha sonics
Death Battle: Eggman vs. Wily
Winner: Metal Sonic
becuse wily used the virus that makes robots blow everyone up that isnt the robot
personally I think Eggman survived at the end, that man is surprisingly resilient, he survived several powerful explosions and being manhandled by godlike entities, while Wily relies on an escape drone to get out of situations
Plus Metal Sonic is Robotnik’s robot, so either way, Robotnik won
Eggman survived being tossed away by gods on two occasions first by Chaos second by dark gia AND EGGMAN'S STILL ALIVE AFTER THAT
@@axelsonicsson7160 EXACTLY!!!
@@axelsonicsson7160don't forget he received a blast like that from chaos and he turned out fine
@@sethmushambavanhu8391 I just said that "first by Chaos"
For those arguing Wily should've had Zero in this...
A. Zero was never used in Wily's lifetime
B. Zero is not loyal to Wily, he befriended the guy that Wily made him to destroy.
3. Why waste Zero here? Wouldn't it be better for Zero to have his own Death Battle?
smart but why is count down A B 3
EssaLovesCake
Missed that part, thanks for the heads up.
The irony about Zero is that in the end Wily proved he was superior even if it was in a completely different way than he would have wanted. Zero succeeded where Mega and X failed miserably and achieved the original goal of the two. To create a form of AI that could truly be humanity's equal. He will be remembered as a legendary hero, and the savior of humans and reploids while X will likely be remembered as Weil's puppet thanks to Copy X.
Lump Yes, but the humans never knew that in Zero 4, and there was no evidence that the existence of Copy X was revealed at large.
But to be fair,Wily creating Zero and the Roboenza virus caused the human race to go extinct millennials later
really smart here by both doctors.
Eggman - I'm going to make a robot that's incredibly overpowered, but also hard for me to control!
wily - ha, I'm going to make it so you CAN'T control it!
SCIENCE
+Raptormann0205 ... what? what? wait i don't get
+Raptormann0205 megaman.wikia.com/wiki/Roboenza Technically it should take a month for Roboenza to MAYBE make metal sonic go mad. So really Wily should have lost to the massive eggfleet and metal sonic.
Miles Traveler cool
+Miles Traveler Metal sonic was already unstable. So the result would be the same, only month later.
"Welp, that world's *bleeped*! Our bad!"
Best line of the video!
Wiz: We don't have to do ads anymore.
Blue Apron: I'm about to end this man's whole career
"But first we got an advertisement from..."
"Actually Boomstick we don't need to do those anymore."
*HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...*
That statement aged worse than my fingers when i’m taking a bath.
@@hybridepsilon2099 r.i.p
Quotes that will forever be lost in time
Aged like milk
Aged worse than the Screwattack logos before all these videos.
Bass isn't Wily's ultimate creation. Zero is.
wily never used him however
yeah, but doesn't change the fact that was his ultimate creation (as a roboth) with an overhelming ability.
Even if he doesn't have the chance to see it in action he actually make use of him becoming the cause of one of the greatest wars in megaman universe, the Maverick Virus; which he actually made in his life time but instead of using it right away he downloaded the virus in Zero.
Steal-man Alpha well by that logic eggman should have used omega despite the fact that all omega wants is to murder him since he is arguably one of his strongest robots,not that it would make a difference with metal overlord however
the thing with metal sonic is that he is actually a lesser being than many of sigma's forms which zero kills 16 times total in all 8 games of the megaman X trilogy as the entire X trilogy paints the premise as robot evolution which is the fundamental premise of metal sonic anyways, also in x8 zero is part of a team that kills someone classified as a GOD. Given this zero theoretically would have influenced the fight tremendously.
gofer123guy however it took super sonic,super tails and super knuckles to even stand a chance to meta overlord,even as neo metal sonic if zero is truly that great he woud just liquify himself and transform into him(as seen in sonic heroes),not that it matters since he was not activated until wily died,also metal sonic was not made to copy abilities,it was a magic gem that he absorbed in sonic 4 that made him copy abilities and disobey eggman.
9:18
10 years later and this is still my favorite moment in any Death Battle. The Robot Masters kickin ass with "We are the Robots" playing as background music. It's so cool.
Pixy vs Viper Zero | Ace Combat Zero vs. Girly Air Force | DEATH BATTLE
12:37 It was at this moment Dr.Eggman and Dr. Willy knew they f****ed up.
Lol yes
Yes
Y'all remember the Sonic and Mega Man crossover comic??
Aren’t you supposed to be dead?
Yeah!
Freaky Speedy lol u really think death battle is canon?
SparkDasher 777 it was ment as a joke
Freaky Speedy ye ik
Metal Sonic?
Fair enough.
DarthVidar-spiller not.
It may seem fair since he's the only left alive.
ZEROOOO??
DarthVidar-spiller EGGH FREAK
DarthVidar-spiller yeah I guess. He did lose a fight to zero anyway.
We need more army fights in death battle.
I want to see Eggman Vs Bowser
@@sonicfanboy3375Same.
I love coming back to old death battles
who wins between eggman and wily? Metal sonic
or? seriously?
that's a cazador .
you would think the battle is between the two scientist's, but no it's just their robots
nope u lose its Rebecca black
Umm Thor wins...
“Eggman vs Wily”
Winner? Metal Sonic
ha 1 like
Zero: hold my beer.
makes Eggman winner cuze he made Metal
Matt Jassen But Wily was the one that drove Metal crazy with Roboenza. And Metal Sonic has a habit of betraying Eggman.
@@egglord2029 long live our greatest Emperor doctor Eggman!
Okay, confession time. I always, always thought EggRobo was Robotnik with a protective helmet on, right up until now when seeing this video. Seeing as Knuckles was apparently stronger than Sonic and his bosses are more difficult in the Genesis games, I figured Robotnik had merely equipped an extra countermeasure to not get hurt as bad. I guess keeping up with the new franchise would have its pros after all.
7:21 I also noticed Wily raising his Eye Browls like he's having fun annoying you with that sound his Wily Capsule making
Lol
*insert caddicarus joke*
Lol I love how they conveniently left out E-123 Omega. He would've made short work of most of Wily's robots. Same can be said for Zero. He would've mollywhopped most of Eggman's arsenal.
Let us not forget that our dear Dr. Eggman has also managed to create a machine that could literally wipe out realities. I remember Time Eater!
@@azarththekobold he didn't create that time eater was a monster that eggman found and mind controled I think eggman would win against Dr.wily but he did not create time eater.
E-123 and zero was on vacation
You mean the one that he literally kept in suspended animation because he had absolutely no control over it? Yeah, what a useful ally that would make.
Omega is also hellbent on killing Eggman, so...
Powerful
Intelligent
Nefarious
Godly
Awesome
Scientist
PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS
PINGAS
PINGAS
PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS
lol
I would love for this to be remade, especially with the a newer games being used.
Wily side: double gear system, Zero, newer robot masters, etc.
Egg man: wisps, Egg Dragoon, etc.
Sage?
Yeah true sage can summon the titans boom done
@Jared Herrera Wily still has access to roboenza so, still Metal Sonic win.
I wonder if the Phantom Ruby counts.
Egg dragoon ( both from Unleashed and Generations) already existed when this came out idk why they didn't use it
Fun fact:
In polish "robotnik" means worker.
In Robotnik sounds like Russian роботоник, what mean worker
Robotnik is a Czech word for slave
Robotnik is the word that Robot is derived from.
@@CaptainCoolzCT-I thought it came from the story RUR
What that.
note to self: never spray the invincible robot with a virus that makes him go crazy
You: Eggman VS Wily
Me, an intellectual: Pingas VS Wahwee
but wen we find that meteah
we'll find doctah wahwee
NO make eggman's meme him pissing on the moon.
*It's over Wahwee!*
PIIIIIINGAAAASSSS
I love these kinds of comment
This is the best of the classic Death Battle episodes, you did great Ben
I would love to see more people war-styled death battles like this.
I think Bass vs Metal Sonic would be a great Death Battle.
MrFluffyman12 I could definitely imagine that as a One Minute Melee, actually. To be honest- if neither of their transforming capabilities (IE. Super Bass, Metal Madness/Overlord) don't come into play, I could see Bass winning that one.
MrFluffyman12 Bass + Treble + Evil Energy
MrFluffyman12 Well IT Happened In This Fight When Metal Sonic Went All Godzilla XD
BatmanLives001 Well not really- in Metal Overlord form, it's a stomp in Metal Sonic's favour, but in their default forms, I think it would definitely be closer.
Yeah But Still
This was the weirdest death battle ever!
Agree.
Mr.ScaryPasta Justin Bieber vs. Rebecca Black.
At least that one had the highest not destructive to civilizations death count
Will 2139 no, that's the most satisfying.
Mr.ScaryPasta, have you seen Chuck Norris vs Segata Sanshiro?
Metal Sonic wins
Eggman: heheheheh... You fool. I HAVE SEVENTY ALTERNATIVE ACCOUNTS!
Do you mean Eggfucker1, Eggfucker2, Eggfucker3...
"Then the winner is.... uh..." "We didn't see that coming?" "Yup, we didn't see that coming."
Metal Sonic: Wins.
Zero: "Hold my beer."
GraveRoeber [MEANWHILE IN THE FUTURE] Zero Find Metal Sonic
Who is zero
Is he a guy from the megaman franchise
@@Reverse_Spider_Parker_SH yes
Turbo Mecha Sonic
Zero from ZX Advent Super Duper Kamen Rider Fourze upgraded.
EVERYONE SHUT UP ABOUT ZERO!
A. Zero was never used in Wily's lifetime
B. Zero is not loyal to Wily, he befriended the guy that Wily made him to destroy.
C. Why waste Zero here? Wouldn't it be better for Zero to have his own Death Battle?
Well....
A. Unconfirmed but it's been strongly eluded that he did activate during that lifetime and fuck shit up.
B. Also unconfirmed about his loyalty but it's eluded that he isn't.
C. Point taken... Besides I feel like Metal sonic would win anyway.... not that dying is that big of an issue for zero. Zero just isn't fast enough. Metal sonic would get infected with the Zero Virus and be pretty much the same anyway and then kill Zero.
Nick Jones Zero Actually had a program error causing him to be exactly like Omega from Zero3 minus the god complex and loyalty so it would be stupid for Wily to release Zero, yes I know that he's done some stupid stuff, but never that stupid!
Holy hell it's been 8 years since I've seen this.... I randomly found this again, and I'm so happy!
9:45
Was the real moment Wily lost.
I don't think the Roboenza would've turned Metal Sonic into an unstable robot that quickly. Also, the disease kills infected robots, but yes, the survivors do get turned violent.
Considering how often uninfected Hyper Metal Sonic turns on Eggman, it makes complete sense especially with a battlefield of powerful robot corpses to copy and absorb
@@Never_heart Roboenza takes months to take effect, is impossible Metal could be infected too fast
Well, even when Metal Sonic is loyal to Eggman, he still has his own personality & free will, so seeing him turn so quickly doesn’t really surprise me.
Y’all got a source for any of these Roboenza claims?
In Mega Man 10 itself, in the intro, it said that the disease made the infected robots malfunction, and it was a month after the outbreak that some of the robots turned violent. As shown with Roll, not all the affected robots were turned violent. She was still her normal self.
This is an Awsome death battle. The amount of characters was great, they let the personality of both contenders shine while in battle, and had a bad@ss ending that left both fans of the spectrum satisfied.
I actually wish Screw attack would do more team battles, it's a lot more action packed compared to one on ones.
PLC The Legacy
*one of their only good ones
Wow! I clearly remember watching this when it first came out. I had been watching Death Battle for at least a year at that time.
This was, and still is, my favorite episode! Especially the scene at the end with Metal Sonic’s final form. That was literally the coolest thing I’d ever seen at the time!
I kinda feel like eggman won cause that’s his robot
Don’t judge me
I totally agree
Blue Bee idk zero is wily’s robot as well
*Judges you*
but if metal sonic turned against him is it still *his* robot
EvB, Well... Eggman did build metal sonic.
one does not simply 1-hit KO mecha Sonic
except for the wall in Sonic CD
So just throw a wall at him.
that's Metal Sonic, they speak of Mecha Sonic of Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
Ultra no..... they are clearly 2 different robots.
Merasmus i don't see it
now i want a sonic/ megaman crossover. thanks screwattack.
There is a comic :P it's really amazing.
ill have to check it out.
Ya XD
:D
:P
watching this in 2019
Wiz and Boomstick: Time for an adless death battle!
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I love the fact that Metal Sonic uses Godzilla's roar
To anyone who thinks Zero would beat Metal Sonic, keep in mind Metal's copy ability. All he has to do is watch something fight for a while and he can copy it's data perfectly, taking full advantage of it's strengths and accounting for it's weaknesses. This is how Metal became the Metal Overlord in Heroes, he copied the fighting data from all of the other characters, took advantage of their strong points and did away with their weaknesses. Even Super Sonic alone couldn't defeat him.
Don't get me wrong, Zero is strong, really really strong. One of the biggest badasses in the Megaman timeline. But as soon as Metal copies Zero's data, it's over. Zero couldn't win alone and without a significant powerup after the data copy took place. I mean, look what happened to Bass here. Metal Overlord didn't even copy his data and he was destroyed as easily as stepping on an ant.
Take into consideration Super Sonic's power for a moment. Sonic without the power up is capable of moving his legs fast enough to run faster than the speed of sound. Super Sonic is able to move even faster than that without even having to touch the ground, and in fact gains the ability to fly without any clear means of doing so. Super Sonic has shown the ability to defeat monsters described as being godlike in power (Probably closer in power to around what the Greek gods would be capable of) on his own, and even he couldn't even scratch Metal Overlord without the help of his friends. Zero is a badass, but he's not god tier badass. Metal Sonic has the edge here.
That isn't to say that nobody in the Megaman timeline could win against Metal Overlord though In the ZX series Grey and Ashe prove themselves to be god tier at the end of ZXA, and Vent and Aile were both capable of holding their own against them. That's enough evidence to say that anyone who uses the power of the biometal could potentially beat Metal Overlord, but they would have to work as a team if he were to scan any of their data, especially Grey or Ashe who have multiple life form data's.
As for this video, I would count this to be an Eggman win. Why? Because his creation killed Wily. Yes, it also killed him due to Roboenza, but that's not really relevant because Metal between Sonic CD and Sonic Heroes was still capable of betraying Eggman at any time at a whim, and in fact this is exactly what happened in Heroes. So as far as we know, Metal never really even got affected by the Roboenza. He came into contact with it, but it easily could have done nothing and Eggman would still have been killed by Metal Overlord. Therefore, Wily doesn't get the Roboenza bonus points to make it a draw, and so even though Eggman himself was killed, it was one of his creations that was left functioning at the end, and not one of Wily's.
zero cannot even be on wily's side. He betrayed him. Just like how proto man did
+Crow Rising true, but don't forget the Time eater too
+Crow Rising "Zero is a badass, but he's not god tier badass."
Zero was able to defeat an immortal cyborg fused with an orbital laser cannon space station (Weil after merging with Ragnarok), not to mention a hyper souped up version of his own original body inhabited by the ultimate form of Wily's virus (Omega (in all forms) possessed by the Dark Elf, a corrupted version of the final cure for the Maverick/Sigma virus), all within an inferior Reploid version of his body. This is the same Omega that was responsible for some of the worst atrocities in the entirety of the MM universe during the Elf Wars, a calamity in which 90% of all Reploids and 60% of all humans died, outdoing even the Eurasia colony drop. They didn't call Omega the God of Destruction and the Devil Reploid for nothing.
Depending on how you interpret what happens after MMZ4 and before ZX, Zero even survives orbital reentry to become the Biometal known as Model Z, which later fuses with Model X to become Model ZX, the most godawfully overpowered of all the Biometals (aside from Models O and W, which he also defeated), capable of taking out Albert himself and his legions of Reploids and Pseudoroids. He even fended off four Biometal users by himself as a Biometal, without Model X or a human/Reploid host.
I'd say that's god tier badass.
Some people in the comments are making a big deal out of the Death Egg and Robotnik's various facilities around Mobius, as well as his battle fleets. I guess they forgot that Wily had the Megaman Killers, Doc Robot, Ra Thor, Jet King Robo, numerous weaponised castles, the Wily Battleship, Gamma, and even the Wily Star, not to mention all those other bosses and sub-bosses.
I also see people making the argument that only the Zero defeated by Sigma should count, as it's the only body created by Wily. To that I say, bollocks. MMZ Zero is the same individual - his memories and mental data are the same, even with an inferior 'copy' body.
As for this video, there were a ton of factors left out on both sides of the equation, so I don't think it's very accurate. That aside, even if one were to include all of the things I've mentioned, it's a safe bet that neither Wily nor Robotnik would have won in the end.
Model X was definitely not the original X, yes. What is less certain is whether Model Z is, made from the remains of Zero. Parts of him did, in fact, survive reentry, and the Mother Elf (which mysteriously vanished into the world at the end of MMZ3) has been shown to be more than capable of regenerating him completely. Further, Ciel made the Biometals (with the exceptions of Models O and W) and it is entirely possible that she managed to find enough of Zero's data to preserve him in Biometal form. This is why I said it depends on your interpretation of events between MMZ4 and ZX. There aren't enough facts to say for certain what happened.
I think you're confusing the Models with their Megamerge hosts, by the way. The Model is the Biometal entity itself, not the Megamerge.
Omega wasn't 'likely' brainwashed by Weil. He was, plain and simple. However, he was also canonically insane, and did actually believe he was a messiah.
Omega and Zero were nowhere near to 'evenly matched'. There was a tremendous power level difference there, and the only reason Zero won at all was, as you said, his determination to protect, but also his years of experience in battle. Omega didn't have that, and was insane, overconfident, and reckless to boot. This is why he lost - he didn't have Zero's 'heart'.
Zero's question about Omega serving Weil was more pointed at Weil than anything. "Why do you have him programmed to serve you unconditionally if you are so all-powerful?" It was rhetoric meant to show Weil's lack of trust and security, his need to force loyalty as opposed to the willing cooperation that Zero received by working "hand in hand" with Reploids and humans alike.
Your logic about Weil's strength being weakness can just as easily be applied to Metal Sonic. Without his visual copy ability, he'd be no match for Sonic, let alone Zero.
Model W is not likely the very first Biometal to ever exist. It IS the first. Ciel found the remains of Ragnarok and used W as a blueprint of sorts to develop the other Models.
Vent and Aile are nowhere near god tier. They are, as you said, a couple of kids. Kids that are Megamerged with Biometals containing the data and skill and experience of two of the most formidable and unstoppable warriors to ever exist. This is why Giro had to save them. This is why they were able to defeat Omega's cybershadow in Area N.
Similarly, Grey and Ashe are extremely weak until they Megamerge with Model A, which is once again a god tier Biometal backup system preprogrammed with tactical information and abilities. Notice that even when Megamerged with A at the start of the game, they are still very weak? That's because A hadn't recovered all of its memories. Albert even confirms this later with the line "You should have recovered all of your memories by now". Conveniently, this is shortly before Albert himself is defeated. This is also why Grey and Ashe are able to defeat Vent and Aile without ZX. Also, you have it backward - the Reploids and Pseudoreploids of the ZX era are considerably weaker than their predecessors. Galleons are weaker than Variants, Variants are weaker than Pantheons, and Pantheons are weaker than X. They're basically watered down x-generation versions of X. (I should note that Variants, mechanically speaking, are stronger than Pantheons in the sense that they can withstand a bit more damage, but generally speaking they are less of a threat as there are less variations of them and their weapons are fairly mediocre, and the increased damage resistance is minimal at best.)
Lastly, your final paragraph basically states what I've been saying. Zero's strength wasn't the physical sort. This is beside the point, as he still manages to defeat entities with godlike abilities (what else would you call immortality, raising the dead, and mind controlling an entire planet?). In the end, all you need to achieve godlike status is to beat godlike beings... and Zero managed that with skill, friends, and determination.
I guess you could also say it didn't hurt that he was a Wily robot.
Rick Forrest Ciel only made models X and Z. Model W already existed and was found by Albert, and he used it as the blueprint to make models A, F, H, L, and P. This is revealed in one of the flashback like data things that Grey/Ashe find with Model A. He programmed them to only work with people who are genetically related to him. A in particular was made specifically for Grey for them to be a backup successor should his plans fail. He also made the model W's that resemble faces, though they are weaker than the bigger Model W fragments. The only other biometals I am aware of him making are the ones Prometheus and Pandora use, which are never named as far as I know.
Model O is a bit of an odd one though. It's not technically a biometal like the other models. It's basically just Omega's head preserved after all this time, with a faint trace of his memories and powers still intact. Model X is able to use it for Double Megamerge, but I doubt it could be used on it's own.
Serpent forshadowed Albert being the maker of most of the biometals in Aile's story right near the end. He tells her that the blood of the creator of the biometals flows through all who can use their power, which fits into his limited understanding of how they work as basically a henchman. He doesn't seem to understand that models X and Z are different.
Proof that models X and Z are different is Giro himself. He was Ciel's creation, unlike most of the other reploids in existence. If model Z required Albert's DNA to use it, Giro would be unable to. Just like how Model A was made specifically for Grey to use, Model Z was made for Giro. I don't think it's possible for anyone else to use the model Z on it's own, Vent and Aile never gain access to a model Z form, they have to use model X to use model Z.
As for Vent and Aile not being god tier, Megamerges don't take control of the user. They still have full body control, they simply gain the power that the biometals grant them. Battle experience is not included, only power. Essentially, it's like handing someone the legendary sword that was used by a legendary hero. Just holding the sword doesn't make you just as skilled as the hero it originally belonged to. This is further supported by them clearly having been training between ZX and ZXA. Vent has learned a new uppercut attack, and Aile has an attack similar to Link's finisher attack in the Legend of Zelda, except it also smashes the ground and creates rock projectiles.
Basically what I am saying is that in ZX, they are still just as much "just kids" in ZX form as they are in their transporter uniforms. The only difference is that while megamerged they incredibly powerful weapons, armor, and superhuman physical potential. The reason they can't do sick flips and wall jumps in human form isn't because the biometals grant them additional skill, it's because their bodies become more vulnerable and weak when they aren't megamerged.
Your point about Metal Sonic is true. Even with his copy ability, Sonic defeats him on a regular basis. But the thing is, the point of my original comment is in the context of this specific Death Battle. Basically, what I am saying is that if Zero were to win the fight against Metal Sonic, he would have to do it before Metal had enough data to become Metal Overlord. Super Sonic out tiers pretty much everyone in MMZX and ZXA, and him on his own couldn't handle Metal Overlord. He needed the help of his friends to weaken him down and assist in the attack.
The true power of base Sonic would be rather hard to calculate, but his speed is a major factor in his capabilities. The faster he moves, the harder he hits. Even if he is only spinning at those high speeds and not actually traveling them, that factors into his attack power, which is what allows him to destroy Eggman's smaller robots in a single hit. Sonic has thinking ability as fast as his feet, which allows him to react to attacks and dodge them, but in terms of defense, pretty much any Megaman character would out tank him. Sonic survives through dodges rather than tanking.
So in a Megaman context, Sonic is more of a glass cannon type character. He doesn't become a true god tier until he becomes Super Sonic, at which point all melee weapons (Knuckles wasn't physically able to attack Super Mecha Sonic in Sonic 3) would be useless, and only the most powerful of energy blasts could have an effect on Super Sonic, reducing the amount of time the form lasts. If you are wondering why I am doing this analysis, you will see soon.
The Sonic Tier list thus goes like this:
Metal Overlord > Super Sonic > Knuckles
The strongest melee attacks in the ZX games are Model F's punches, capable of punching through thick walls of the hardest metal in the Megaman Universe. Knuckles' punches are likewise capable of punching through thick sheets of metal and even causing earthquakes, fissures, and eruptions. It's hard to say which between the two is more powerful, but they seem to be pretty close.
Neither Model F nor Knuckles are god tier, depsite that punching power. Super Sonic, who is god tier, isn't even fazed by it. So we can use this to merge the Sonic and Megaman tier lists a little bit:
Metal overlord > Super Sonic > Model F
Vent/Aile in ZX form > Model F, P, H and L team up advantage of 4 to 1 or 2
Model F punch to Vent or Aile however will still do damage, therefore:
Super Sonic > Vent/Aile
So that gives us the tier list:
Metal Overlord > Super Sonic > Vent/Aile > Zero
Because we already know that Vent and Aile are stronger than Zero, since they have the same weapons, but higher power capability thanks to model X. They also have the same determination thing going on with them, they not only have those they wish to protect, but a future they wish to protect as well, so determination boost cancels out between them. The last one standing is whoever has the power to last longer.
However, Metal Sonic on his own is much weaker, and therefore:
Sonic >/= Knuckles > Metal Sonic
and
Zero > Metal Sonic with insufficient copy data
So, the full tier list ends up with:
Metal Overlord > Super Sonic > Vent/Aile > Zero >/= Sonic >/= Knuckles > Metal Sonic with insufficient copy data
So the end result is basically that Metal Overlord is just way too strong. Zero's determination wouldn't be enough, as the power gap is just too much. Weil combined with Ragnarok is childs play compared to Metal Overlord, especially with that copy ability. Hell, Weil combined with Ragnarok would go under Zero on the tier list, since Zero didn't even need any kind of special transformation to win.
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Who would win in a fight between Dr. Eggman and Dr. Wily?
Answer: Metal Sonic
Omg it's basically;
Question: Who would win in a fight between Goku and Superman?
Answer: Chuck Norris.
Galileo Clarke.Well they had a fight between Superman and goku 2 times and Super man was the winner
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I know, just trying to make a joke, and I did see both episodes, and I agree with their results.
Galileo Clarke
Ahh I remember when chuck norris was a meme
Galileo Clarke I mean you wouldn't be wrong.
Nope, Shrek would
i want metal sonic vs. ultron. you can't tell me that wouldn't be an epic fight to see.
Yeah, that's pretty well what came to mind while watching.
thebasscrss that would be an EPIC battle! it would be epic too see! Ultron crashing and bashing, while Metal sonic will be having a cup of oil ( A drink for Metal sonic )
Metal absorb ultron......and you heard K.O!!!
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Actually, I was thinking Metal Sonic vs Cyborg Superman.
Actually broomstick Treble isn't a robo dog like rush he's a robo wolf.
EVEN BETTER!!!!! FOXES AND WOLVES FOR THE WIN
Boomstick Not Broomstick
Robo-canine?
There's no way anyone can catch up to or destroy the wily capsule. That thing distracts you with horrible noises and zooms at mach speed. Mega man has always wanted to blow that thing up.
Metal sonic can destroy a moon
@@azizkalb8721 chill it was just a megaman joke. I did always think that thing was indestructible because of how many times wily always escapes in it.
I think eggman had this battle won tbh but wily if he wanted to would be 100% better at pleading/escaping than eggman.
Though a Zero vs Metal Sonic battle would be sick. Both made by the doctors and both are way more powerful than anything else they have created.
@@AndroidHarris yeah
@@AndroidHarris I think they made a zero vs metal sonic video
@@Dilopho try lowball metal sonic
I just saw something I can’t unsee
Metal sonic was just Nintendo
They destroyed their competition
My god. It's too perfect... wait. Does that make the match between metal sonic vs Zero make zero... Sony?
@@commmander64
That's.... actually accurate.
I dont understand this comment, and with the nintendo direct recently im gonna say no they didnt and never will lmao
Or is Metal Sonic sony?
"He's Peta's worst nightmare" Oh sadly i think his their greatest profit.
Robotnik gave the animals jobs and kept them alive, unlike PETA who euthanized them.
DA MotoNeko he’s *
We need an Eggman vs. Wily rematch, especially considering they got a lot more than what was shown both in the episode and over the years of the Sonic & Mega Man series
(Wily: Robot Masters from MM6, 8, 9, 11, MM&B, the Mega Man Killers, the Genesis Unit, Double Gear System)
(Eggman: The Phantom Ruby, Infinite, Sage, Hard Boiled Heavies, The Deadly Six)
I agree with most of this except the Deadly Six. I think only creations/stolen robots should be used.
This is the first tie I've seen, I love it 😂
10:26
Bass is just like the kind of kid you would expect to see at a Hot Topic
That was the longest and most confusing battle...not even just on the show. Like ever.
well it was pretty enjoyable
I'd have to agree with both of you.
Ditto
and the longest battle is the superman v goku
"He's basically PETA's worst nightmare."
Me: Perhaps I judged you too harshly.
This was my 1st death battle 10 years ago. Before my friend introduced me to death battle he asked me whp would win; having seen the episode already. I am proud to say i surprised him by 100% predicting the end of this video; right up to metal sonic killing everyone while under roboenza
I love this Death Battle. Both Eggman and Wily using their robots and arsenal against each other is epic.
Metal Sonic plus Roboenza equals death battle for everyone.
Honestly who realized they were both screwed when metal sonic got roboenza
What is Roboenza?
@@bionicleboy6445 they explained in the video
@@bionicleboy6445 its a virus
I don't think this episode needs a remake, more like a spiritual successor.
Eggman Vs. Bowser Army Battle. Things go back and forth, though eventually Eggman's army begins to keep the advantage, forcing Bowser to step in himself and even things out, with a final brawl which Eggman uses the Death Egg Robot.
They didn't add Air Man, because you should have known...
*You CAN'T beat Air Man.*
Dr Wily's greatest creation wasn't Bass....
Who's watching this in 2017 and coming from Metal Sonic vs Zero?
Me
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The video was set to awnser the question "Who's the deadliest robot commander"
Zero never really obeyed Wily, so thats why he didn't appear in this video
But no worries
After all there is a Death Battle in which Zero Cuts Metal Sonic in Half
JSZ it would be cool if zero was somewhere in the background
What about Jak (Jak and Daxter] vs Ratchet (Ratchet and Cllank]
I'd have to go with Jak and Daxter. Jak is way too powerful when he's transformed and even Daxter can transform.
As base Ratchet vs Jak, definitely Jak.
But if Ratchet has access to the weaponry thoughout the games, Jak doesn't stand a chance, Ratchet's weaponry (and armory) is far more ridiculous and advanced than in Jaks games.
A shot from the lvl.3 peace maker would easily end the fight.
NewNecro What about them blitzers? Or my personal favorite, the Omega Judicator.
Jak and Daxter would beat Ratchet & Clank also because even if Ratchet doesn't get defeated by Dark Jak, he still has Light Jak as a plan B and he can even get time frozen to attack.
Eggman in Heaven: I see this as an absolute win
Wily in Heaven mentioning zero: are you sure about that?
@@GokaikillerTobi eggman: BOI HE BASICALLY SWITCHED SIDES ON YOU AND DONT BRING METAL INTO THIS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW HE IS CURRENTLY UNALIGNED
Fitting as Eggman's plans seem to constantly go way over his head.
They always grow more powerful and beyond his own imagination and control.
His last plot in the comics did this with the metal virus.
Metal sonic: Casually lets self be hit by something of enemy origin that I would normally dodge since I can go past mach 5 speeds
It would still spread and infect him
The background is chemical plant zone, anyone else notice?
I know i noticed lol
no,peta is their own worst nightmare.
Out of all the Death Battle episodes, I think this is the one that deserves a rematch episode.
Mega man vs astroboy
Your wish has come true.
Eggman should have won, he has 70 alternative accounts right?
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Are you referring to eggfucker1, eggfucker2, eggfucker...
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Yes
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I absolutely want to see a remake of this timeless battle. My forever favorite.
Wily will always had the most badass robots.
Wily ftw.
Good luck with that...
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Shredder vs. Wolverine
Joanna Dark vs. Lara Croft
Arbiter vs. Predator
Bayonetta vs. Morrigan
Dante vs. Vincent Valentine
Rayne vs. Witchblade
Nariko vs. Prince of Persia
Ganondorf vs. Sephiroth
Godzilla vs. Gamera
Ryu vs. Liu Kang
Ken Masters vs. Terry Bogard
Voltron vs. Megazord
Gypsy Danger vs. Cloverfield monster
Avatar Korra vs. Storm
Darth Vader vs. Voldemort
nah thats too much stick with one you can't expect them to make every one of these
I figure they can select one or two as needed.
the first one.(know that both of them exist so i can vote on it)
Why Korra Not AAng
Korra vs. Storm makes more sense I feel.
Did anyone who grew up watching Super Mario Bros Z think that Mecha Sonic would kick ass in this fight?
I didn't know anything about SMBZ until recently around last year or two. But, of course, going through the analysis of Dr. Eggman, it's more focusing on the robots from the original game canon(even though the SWAT Bots and Scratch and Grounder from the cartoons were thrown into the mix). So, the Mecha Sonic Mk.II is the one from the game canon rather than the fan sprite animation series.
10:07 cue Scrath and Grounder
Both doctors did put up a good fight, as did their robots, but in the end, no one could _steel_ the show. This Death Battle is a DRAW!
Man that noise would drive anyone insane.
0:46 "I have an announcement to make Shadow the hedgehog is a.."
I get it
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Lets be honest, you infect a insanely powerful robot that can turn into a combination of perfect chaos and that robot ultimate life form thing for adventure two, with roboenza which would make it crazy absurd...yea, that’s stupid, very stupid.