Groundwork basics with a 3 year old warmblood stallion
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2011
- Here Warwick talks about some of the basics he would like a horse to be able to do before he even start riding them. These basics usually fix many of the problems that so called problem horses have.
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Seems a great trainer. I learned what should be done but he didn't show you how to do it. He showed a really smart horse that already knows how.
Thats what I was thinking hes showing a horse already taught but not how to get there
I think this is one of my favorites of Warwick's videos. These things should be mandatory training for all horses before a saddle is put on, and unfortunately, it's not.
Yes, I would not dare get on a horse that did not have this level of knowledge.
Bbn
Absolutely brilliant x x
I bought 2 older horses, they both turned out as "problem" horses and both of them didnt do just one of these things.
I now bought a 2yo 2 years ago and startet with this ground work. He is 4yo now and I am now riding him for probably 6 months and he is so nice and smooth and easy to handle. 100 percent uncomplicated in anything.
@@shezakillrqueen Hard to teach old dogs new tricks
Wow, so much for the smart aleck stallion from the first video! Gentle, kind and respectful to the horse, wonderful.💖
Every older problem horse I get learns this stuff, and in the process the problems they have go away.
How do you teach them these things? And do you have videos for instruction?
Thank you Warrick for sharing your videos. You are by far the best horseman I've ever seen. I recently bought a buckskin who is well behaved but had no coping skills. I have done hook up, bending, ground work, leading, spooking, riding with your methods exactly. My horse is far more relaxed and can enjoy life with us humans! Again thank you so much, it is a life changer for me as well.
I had to give a demonstration to an English rider who accused me of scaring my horse with my Handy Stick just because I had the mare changing directions like a cutting horse when I was lunging her. After doing "Lunging for Respect: Stage Two," I desensitized her with my stick and string before I started spanking the ground (something that my horse already knew how to do) and she did NOT move. Pretty quickly, that same person changed their tune after that. *lol*
***** Exactly! Doing that will only make your horse a basket case.
I think 80% of the horses I've ever ridden would not be immediately up to doing these things. I've been pretty oblivious. This are FUNDAMENTALS for a horse.
Ar Acech Yes, I get lots of rearing. bucking and bolting horses in to retrain, and none of them have these basics, which is why they are bucking, rearing and bolting.
Ar Acech these things are almost never taught to English horses. I’ve worked as a pro rider for show jumping horses for 20 years and I’ve never seen anyone who wasn’t western teach a horse these things. Trust me there are Olympic horses who would loose their shit swinging a rope around them like that, or who can’t be hand walked without a bit or chain. It’s sad
@@beatemueller7830 Really? Even if it is just a "pasture pet" for its own good a horse should be easy to catch and halter, lead politely, load easily and stand for hoof care. Because they will be led, hauled, and have farriers visiting to care for their hooves.
@@lazygardens I saw a video of a supposed Olympic dressage rider leading her horse and she was holding it right under the jaw and when leading she had to lean against the horse because she couldn't do it properly. I pointed this out and her subscribers still give me excuses as of why "he was excited" "do you know who she is??" "He's a stallion" etc etc. I bet that if that horse had a, let's say plastic bag floating around it would freak the fuck out.
Also I found it funny how they said that "she has more control like this" as if that horse couldn't run her over in a millisecond if he wanted. She wasnt in control whatsoever
@@vivientakacs5599 im still learning to do this with a horse and ill take this video with me to try and replicate some stuff because the horse i have to work with is very like uncertain, very unsure about a lot of stuff though swinging ropes and stick around is no problem because ive done that, problem is that it has never really clicked for me how to lunge and the girl thats owns the stable just pulls on their head when she want them to stop in lunging and im like it doesnt look pleasant for anyone and it confuses the horse because "a raised arm" is their signal to stop but its also their signal to start moving. if they dont stop she yanks hard. she taught me to do that too but im like it just doesnt look or feel right so ive been looking around for different way to do it. he also loses his attention on you a lot and i dont know how to tackle that yet either, but ill try to lunge him and train the buttyield in him too hahaha
horses are great to work with and the boy im working with is amazing and weve really clicked with eachother and it feels incredible doing stuff with him and both teach and be taught. still a complete noob with a lot of stuff though but thats okay, im focused on taking it slow with him and getting him used to stuff slowly and letting him take breaks to lick and chew lick and chew. which he does a lot of when i do stuff with him, which is awesome to see. and when it clicks with him what im trying to accomplish hes just like breathing out and relaxing, i love it so much hahaha
thank you. you are simply the best!
I've just purchased a 14yo TB and I was amazed that he didn't know this stuff! Guess that's something I'll have to work on him with! Thanks for this awesome video!
Up late... watched a number of your videos. So much that is given - freely, clearly and for the benefit of horses (and their human friends)... Thank you thank you thank you!
My mare actually LOOKED at me, something I will never forget. Thanks Warrick. #journeyon20
Love this! Thank you.
Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are just AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!! I wish you lived in SA - I would send all my horses for training!! But I will try this myself...
OMG…what a cute, quiet guy he has become.
whe he pet the horse's face with a stick, i died xD
Thank you it helps a lot. I have an abused 6 year old palomino and now I know exactly some of the things to do with her and look for those same reactions before I even think about getting on her.
I don’t know anything about horses but I’m learning a lot.
I really love your style Warwick. I saw a video recently of Clinton Anderson teaching a horse how not to buck with a saddle on. He put a rope around his flanks and pulled on him until he stopped the bucking. A few times his apprentice punched the horse in the gutt. He has nothing on you my dear. I have never seen you hit a horse. I love your methods and thank you for teaching and loving God's beautiful creatures. I will never watch another Clinton Anderson video. Please keep up the good work. I wished I lived in a location closer to watch you perform your magic.
Ap Wrg they are literally doing the exact same method
@@chloemonk683 they work by the same principle .
But Anderson has nothing on Warwick .
His timing and understanding of the horse is much better.
Clinton can be very hard and hè is a marketing machine.
If you watch Clinton in the beginning of his career, there a huge difference, between his training then and now.
To me, it seems like he had a scare, and don't trust horses anymore, so he's turning them into machines..
@@Galemor1 I'm not an expert, but a lot of the horse trainers (Clint Anderson, even Buck, if you've seen the documentary with a six-year-old stallion who cracked his assistant's head open you'll know what I mean.)
Where they have no time nor patience to work with problem horses anymore. They grind out these horses in three days at the most, Monty Roberts is one of the few who can do this, even he has spent months on cases that have more issues than just his regular clinic. In his book, he even admits there were some horses that were even BEYOND his training because of how far they were gone. (One stallion had live wire around his stall because of how often he climbed out and attacked people when Monty saw him, he said to that horses dying breath the horse was never fully trained out of it.) Most horses fit under this regime who have no or small "issues", but any horse, especially extreme ones like the one in Buck, need A LOT more time than three days. They are so focused on the end result and not looking bad in front of their audience, they try to force the horses through these clinics. Then you end up with an abused horse or a badly injured trainer that they blame everything but what happens when you rush a horse that's at that level of danger. That stallion needed a lot more work to get him at the level where he needed to be to even be CLOSE to malleable. But Buck pushed through it because it was a three-day clinic and didn't want to make it longer without having to explain to his fans why he couldn't handle that horse in three days. I don't blame him for how the horse was, I blame him for how that horse ended up as at the end of the clinic and how he made feeble excuses about it.
Warwick takes DAYS to months working with any horse. He doesn't rush it, he doesn't push it, he gives the time that's needed. This stallion worked only 10 minutes the first day, and that was slowly going around the round pen to just get him used to it and what was expected of him. Even now, he's not even mounting the horse, he's letting the horse figure it out on his own, and this is a much milder case than a lot of others.
@@SaraNightfire1
My friend had her horse at the Monty clinic in Norway, with a trailer loading issue.
After the clinic, she still couldn't load him, and had to ride him home again.
She had to train him to load herself, with treats and such.
I like Warrick, because he doesn't focus on the outcome, or "fixing" the issue, he just figures out what the horse initially needs.
Like the horse that spent the clinic sleeping.
But he has talked about how he used to be like the others, trying to dominate and tell the horses what to do, without really listening.
About the attacking stallion, some horses are better off in heaven, as they aren't feeling any pain, confusion, hunger, and such then.
And some people just shouldn't be around animals.
As you know, the women broke down in tears, admitting that she was mentally unstable herself, because of being emotionally scared.
That's why she had all those other stallions back home too.
Ever single one of your videos have helped me understand more about horses and how they think and what I can do to help them through problems and teach them to be honest horses. I can’t narrow a favorite video down to one because they’re all helpful. Keep up the great work! #journeyon20 🐴
Wow! Love the silence and body language! Thank you.
I appreciate you putting this stuff out there for free. He's so respectful now. I just saw the videos where he was nervous and hollering for his buddy. Thanks again.
Hi Warwick! I'm Daniela, 44 y.o., been in love with horses since I was 2. Blessed to be around them when I was young, not any more nowadays, sadly. I just found you... I am stunned. Amazing work there mate! Hugs and lots of respect from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Very helpful. Thank you 🙏🏾
Really helpful. Just got a rescue horse and working her like this (in Canada, bloody icy). She's really smart and I'm catching on too :-) these videos by Warwick Schiller are the best plus Ross Jacobs, all gentle, strong and calm instruction. I've worked her for 3 weeks, a few more weeks and she'll be ready to ride. Really appreciate these videos. Cheers from Aussie in wilds of Canada.
I'm a Warwick fan and bought the principles of training and got a lot out of it ( so did my horses) in his videos like this one for instance I wish insted of saying this is what I would do to fix this kind of problem, show a horse with the problem. I could make the video with his horse
Hey thanks for taking the time to make these videos been a big help to me.
Thank you for sharing Mr. Warwick
This video answered so many questions I had a number of years ago about what groundwork was and was actually a catalyst that lead to me discovering more of Warwick's videos. As a result I made loads of new contacts and it changed the course of the past three years of my life quite dramatically. Thanks Warwick. #journeyon20
Thanks, I enjoyed watching/learning!
So clear ! I loved IT 💜💜💜.
By far the best vid. I've watched in a long time. Thankyou for sharing. Rgds.
Sirimiel
Let me tell you, it wasn't easy with this horse. He was scared of everything. But to answer your question, I started with him up against the fence on my right ride, then asked him to step forward. If he swung his hindquarters away from the fence , I'd send him back over where we started from , and start all over again.
I definitely learned from this video about ground work. . thanks
This is a great quick overview.
Thank you🙂
watching the ground basics thank you
I just got a 12 year old Fjord mare who was started at 3 and ridden for a year and a half then put back in with the herd until now. I signed up with the subscription videos and have been following the plan. What a great way to find any holes before I get on her. I am 67 and want to stay safe. This is the best restart program. Thanks Warwick
Great approach to start a horse !
very useful thankyou , will implement with my babies and my older horses too
Hi Warwick.
This horse is to die for❤🤗
Your work is common sense equine language.
Certainly does help. Bought my boy at age 5 already saddle broke, but with little to no desensitizing. Working on, but you have certainly moved me forward...He tossed my a week ago, and left the scene of the crime running. I'm bruised, but my trust level needs a lot of work. Yes, I have gotten back on, but now going a few steps back in ground work. Thank you.
Great groundwork video!!
Such a great video, so educational. I love watching your video's and practising with my 2.5 yr old horse. Ground work is what I will be focusing on for a while. I agree with the comment below that I'd love to see it done for the first time, but I bet you already have heaps of clips so will keep searching.
Warwick is also the name of my favorite League of Legends champion.
Nice video
Wow you make look so easy!!
Thanks :D this has been amazing.
love to know when you are in Victoria, Australia next.
I have trained a number of horses in my time - but nothing professional. I have been watching dozens of horse training videos of late to see where I can learn some more. With some of them I cannot fathom out what the trainer wants to teach the horse - so how the hell must the poor horse know? Others are all PC crap. I really like your style - good no nonsense common sense.
Yes! My rescue horse, I’ve done all this with and it is amazing, and he is so smart and just eager to please!! The horse we got for my daughter for 4H, that is supposedly PERFECTLY trained and been in parades and trail rides and such...you could tell hasn’t done most of this at all or in a long while...she does flex well, and now that we have worked it a few times she is getting better about lunging and sending...but, she’s not great at yielding yet...it has already helped so much with her riding though, so these are totally staples for us too! So glad I found your channel! ❤️👏
This is your most important video. I go back to this all the time. open a patrion or something...
I've been studying your videos after my 4yr old Welsh Cob bolted on me last week forcing me to throw myself off when still galloping with only 10 meters to go until the field gate. Scary stuff. A friend of mine pointed me in your direction after I thought it may be my bitless bridle that gave me less control. I've now been teaching him lateral flexion and disengaging the hip. He's being very responsive and it's also given me new confidence. Thank you for your brilliant videos.
It’s a gentle process!
Great video
Great videos, thanks a lot, man.
Ingalill, I have many video on my online training site showing many different horses learning this for the first time, from young TBs to older Andalusians that have al types of issues. I have over 100 full length videos on there, just go to my website and visit the video page.
Mr Schiller:. I can see in this video how you eliminate the necessity for the use of the bitting harness. This is a very effective & beautiful technique utilizing virtually everything the bitting harness teaches a young horse tacked up in the caveson initially free exercised then, on the lunge line, while finally adding side reins. Your technique appears to cover all of the bases including the initial introduction to weight. I like it very much & hope to learn so much more. I would be most happy to become proficient enough at using your training methods to eliminate the use of the bitting rig altogether. For some time my focus has been training & competing reiners, cutters, reined cow horses & some western dressage horses versus the dressage & hunter/jumpers for those disciplines in which I trained & competed for many, many years.
I no longer have the luxury of time or ride horses owned by clients willing to wait years for their horses to compete at the highest levels. So, after watching several of your videos about starting this young warmblood, the bitting harness now feels as though it's an old fashioned tool in my tack trunk that no longer serves my purposes & should probably be retired.
I've decided it's to my best advantage as a good business person & trainer to endeavour to thoroughly learn your training methods beginning as soon as possible, since I can see with my own eyes how they're applied & work to teach & encourage this horse to learn through its own intellect, acceptance & choice versus being guided every inch of the way with some level of force using tack & equipment.
This video is particularly helpful & visibly answers my previous question to you very thoroughly.
You are amazing.
love to see a video on how to train this,my boy would benefit emensly from this.
great information. what i found annoying was that for some reason my headphones was lounder in one ear then the other. and yes before you ask, i did have the headphone jack in correctly.
lots of time went into the space between this video and the previous.
Yes, I think it was 6 days a week for a month
Hi can you show us HOW you get to this stage! All very well demoing on horse who is obviously well de sentised, probably lot different on one who never had rope swinging around his body!
It's not as hard as it seems, just use basic pressure and release. Swing a rope near the horse, and keep swinging if they are moving and fidgety, and the SECOND they stop moving, stop swinging the rope.
Kerrie, I will be in Qld a couple of times next year.
Working on getting my baby de sensitized to my dog jumping in/out of water trough LOL Oh, and the garbage bag flapping on the fence post LOL
love to know when you are down in aus, victoria again :D
Nice video.. I learned alot from it... an funny horse at 7:73... bowing to get food in the back ground haha
Great! My horse can do all these things well :D
Nice
love the "calmness" used here,
About to start a 4 year old filly, wondering if Warwick stats this lunging or "movement control " on or of a rope..? Cheers
thankyou for all your videos they are really helpful :) how do you teach your horses to have there attention on you all the time ?
thankyou
It is all good and fine to see the horse doing all these things, but the point is for us watching the video to learn how to get this level of obedience not the end result...
Warwick has a subscription service on his website - hundreds of videos, thousands of hours of instruction for $25/month, with more videos added every month, it's a bargain.
How often should you do this groundwork routine with them? Every time you ride? Love this.
i would love to know some tips and tricks for buying a new horse. what to look for, etc. or the best way to get to know your new horse :)
Hi Warick thank you for your gentle kind insight. Im wondering can i still train my mare like this with no round pen. I only have a field?
Honestly, I wish these horse training videos actually used horses that have problems. So we can see the *problems* being worked through.
If you search through my videos you can find my whole first session with him , roaring and flailing hisfront legs around.
I've got a 2 year old in looking guards to riding next year. Sadly, I've had her since she was 5 months, and while she can do most of these things, including tieing, the one thing we struggle with is that basic skill- standing still. I'm hoping my round pen will be complete soon, so I can do more of the free work to get her there, but what can be done on lead to get her to stand still in her own space? She's very smart, very confident, and wants to be the boss.
I love dressage, however I TOTALLY AGREE with western/stock/natural methods ESPECIALLY the ground work.EVERYTHING U do in this video I've been doing since I was 13, when I was first taught it.no matter what discipline the horse is going to go on into. This is how i start the "breaking in" process. All my horses are therefore respectful, brave and issue free. Can go any where and do anything.
But as soon as I do this ground work around "English' riders, i get bagged me out. Yet in same breath they say their horse has ............... Issues. I find this frustrating to say the least.
Dressage riders aren't even able to get their horse to cross a short bridge..
If you can't control your horse movements out on the trail, how can you call yourself a dressage rider. Because dressage is all about the movements and how you control them... And if you can't replicate that outside of the arena, then are you really doing it right?
January next year.
Nice video. But I would like to see how you teach your horse to do these things.
This horse is really energitic, constantly focusing on you. My 3 year old mare is so slow! I'm able to get her to focus on me, but I always have to beg her to do things - like trot. I have to tap her with the whip harder and harder, run besides her, asking her to trot, before she finally does it. Of course I let go of all the pressure as soon as she does it. when she does, it's really slow, and she stops quickly.
Ok this is amazing, you are amazing, do u have a dvd or anything that shows me how to teach all of this to my horse?
Jodie, yes, just go to my website, its listed just above this ( below the title ).
Anyone notice how handsome he is? The horse isn't so bad either .
I just got a new horse and needs a refresher on everything. what do u recommend doing first in ground work. I've been desensitizing him and he's doing great but I don't have a round pen, my sister does at her house and he will lunge in it I have no problem sending him out but once u get him out of the round pen or like at my home where I don't have a round pen I have a hard time sending him out I have finally got him to move out but he barely walks lol and wants to come in. any advise?
Favorite groundwork video. So neatly packaged up. One question, just using body language looking at his rear leg/rump gets him to stop. Is this a natural inclination for horses or was this taught in a previous lesson.
Taught, all of it was taught.
Fantastic. Thanks.
I'm no Warwick, but I think you might benefit from watching his video on mental balancing.
What is a good way to get that bend and to stop looking outward on the circle
Have you found any difference in horses that have done a lot of round pen work, compared to horses that have done little round pen work, as far as dropping their shoulders when doing circles in an arena? Just a thought, thank you.
Would be good to do a video with a horse that is not already trained
I have over 800 of those on my website, this is just to show you the results.
At what age would you start training a suckling to hook on and do ground work?
What do you do with horses that are nervous far away from their person on the lunge or in the round pen, or a horse that wants to avoid work on the outside by coming in toward the person?
So, how often would you apply this technique? Obviously daily until they are good at it, or keep doing it every day?
how do you train horses to not be scared of big dogs??
Hi Warwick. first and foremost, thanks so much for your videos! So much common sense. secondly, I have a question: my saddlebred mare was originally trained for saddleseat showing (never actually showed, though) but has never been "trail-broke" (which, I guess, means one could argue that she isn't truly "broke", but using techniques in your videos has really helped so far...I'm on my own with her and her brother, and I'm no pro trainer, so I'm just sort of trying to learn as we go.) anyhow, when I try to get her to give her head to me on the ground as you show here, she doesn't seem to understand that I just want her head; instead, she turns on her forehand to face me. I figure I'm just not asking her the right way...what are your thoughts?
My horse didn't do any of this when I got him off the track, and now he does most of it, but not via such small cues like the head tilt etc. Would you ever do clinics in New Zealand?
I'd like to know what size the round-pen is. It seams to be quite big - but I like this.
Miam Maij, it looks like it's big enough to ride in without feeling like you are in a fishbowl. I bet it is 60 feet. but I am following to find the real answer.
okay, so before you get them used to a halter, as a yearling, you should work them in the round pen ?
This video in particular will help tremendously and I first just want to thank you for it. It's a sort of checklist that I'll be able to refer to henceforth.
If it can't be answered or is answered elsewhere, I'd understand but at 7:51 you say you like to have the horse sidepass to where you're sitting. What do you do in the scenario when the horse won't walk along the fence to where you're sitting, keeps it head facing you and the rest of it's body away from you?
Send it back over to its starting point by the fence, and try again. But before I start that process, I ensure that the horse looks for a resting spot by the fence. So as soon as they move off the fence, i will send them back to their resting spot.
Ah, thank you again! The answers I've come across today in your videos have been invaluable, yet so obvious I've found myself asking, "why couldn't I have figured that out?" But I'm sure you get that a lot.
Hi Warwick just wanted some advice on a horse. We took on 2 horses from family members. We seem to have a problem with the one. She doesn’t like to be groomed she seems very moody and when in the stables she wants to bite and kick what would you suggest we do. Thanks Wentzel
I have the whole process on my website.
You don't really need anything in horse training at all, no halter, no saddle, no bridle... But they are there to help guide the horse to better understand what the handler is asking it to do. A whip is just a pointer, like you would use if you were teaching math on a blackboard covered in equations. You could tell the class "see that equation kind of in the middle next to that semi-long equation diagonal to the square?" Or you could point directly to the specific equation with a pointing stick.
Is there a common length of time that ground work should be emphasized on a new horse. Weeks months etcetera
Hi Warwick are you coming to Perth WA at all in 2014 or 2015.
I don't have a round pen or an arena can you use the same basic techniques with lungeing?