Labour SHOCKED by backlash to trans identity and inclusion - ‘They have MORE rights than women…’
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- ‘It’s complete nonsense… Gender identity doesn’t exist!’
Journalist and Author Joan Smith on how she responds to accusations that she is transphobic, as the debate about women’s sports intensifies.
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Inclusivity at the expense of women's rights is a joke.
Rights should branch to everyone not just the anointed. No wonder this drove people to kill each other in China under Mao.
Everyone's being shoved aside in favour of trans identity
@@el7284 Ya this is the problem when you start to think rights are the same as entitlements and allow rights to clash. It was never supposed to be that way but the left is the most greedy and lazy animal to ever have existed.
Fighting hard on Australia to stop the crap
I wouldn't trust Labour to run a raffle, let alone govern a Country. God help us through the next 4 years!!!
Who voted for them?
They're codding things up so hard, there should be a Parliamentary No Confidence debate well before the next election.
@ljo642 Labour got elected by only 20% of the electorate. The turnout was 50%, and with FPTP Labour got a hefty majority from the 40% of the votes cast that went to them.
Labour have run my council for decades. We're run down & possibly the poorest area in the country. We have the highest cancer deaths, highest child poverty, highest immigrants and possibly illegals here, worst school results, the list goes on. Labour Council have been at the trough for too long here. We're a desolate, abandoned North East town/area. Guess where.
A raffle 😂😂😂
Grow a spine govt and stop men competing in womens only sports events.
Nah. Let people see the effects of the mess they let loose.
Government to grow a spine? Are you delusional? The far-left only attack "normal" people who hold traditional values.
Nandy: "...I think they're the most marginalised, discriminated against group of people..." Really? I think there are some white working class girls from Rochdale that might disagree with you.
Absolutely 🫶🏻
Well said!
Could not agree more
And Oldham, Rotherham everywhere
@@tonyryan6435 including Telford.
Trans identifying people should compete against each other and not women...
@philipmilner9638 They should compete in the general, i.e. male category unless they are willing to fund separate trans categories.
That would just be another men’s catagory
That would be funnier than an episode of Benny Hill. Great idea. The whole concept of trans anything is the biggest comedy ever.
Swimming in the Us set up a trans tournament. Nobody entered ,only want to race against women.
They don’t want that though do they? They want to beat women because at its heart is misogyny
This question shouldn't be a political issue it's just common sense. Trans women are men!
Exactly! People were okay until the propaganda started
I'm still staggered these clowns have any say regarding anything !
Who voted for Labour ffs 🙄
Well quite a lot fewer than the last election, so they haven't convinced any more people to vote for them. Apathy towards the system won the vote.
Stupid people did.
Unfortunately i know one of my friends did. He explained he was convinced by the anti-immigration promises and the promises to restore british jobs. I dont think they will deliver on that either.
@@Apostate_ofmind Some people really are stupid enough to be taken in by the lies of politicians. Has he lived through a labour government before? If he has then he has no excuse.
@@catwoman7462 hes 19 so i dont think so. He just started to work (still in tradeschool) so i think the old mask of labour ('we are all about the workers!') still works on people like him.
Why ?? Why do people believe this nonsense?? Why ?
In my experience - which is all I have - those who believe this nonsense are either 1) young, naive and convinced that anything said by someone over 35yrs old isn't worth listening to because they 'just don't get it'.
2) are rather smug types who like to feel superior to others and for some reason that I cannot fathom, seem to think that rejecting biological facts is very clever of them.
It’s a victim mentality that turns into a religion, make themselves the holy woke ones. And anybody who opposes them is a sinner - a ‘phobe’.
You haven't figured it out yet?
Financial Benefits.
Cultural Dominance.
Political Power.
if you can get people to believe absurdities you can get them to commit atrocities
Mental illness. Covid showed how dumb a lot of people are…..
Pretend women keep winning sports events. This is not cricket.
One stump too many, am I right?
@andrewelliott4436 and balls incompatible with the game
@@andrewelliott4436🤭
name 3 trans women who won a real world sporting event.
high school sports dont count.
If you christian say God is a man how can you deny for men to say they are women? You deny for them what you ascribe to God?
Labour SHOCKED by backlash to trans identity and inclusion it goes to show how out of touch politicians are with their own citizens
They are not of touch they are forcing this shit on people.
@@G777GUN It was working for awhile until a few women, with brains and courage started pushing back but against the guilt tripping lies.
Lol out of touch has nothing to do with it its a agenda welcome to new world order we warned you 30 yrs ago
Governments across the western world all leftist and continue with this rubbish to breakdown society more. So disappointed in the British and French elections hoping for change for your countries. See what happens in America
They are absolutely NOT out of touch with the reasons behind all this. They are fully in touch!
if a fox identifies as a chicken and gets in the hen house the chickens will have no chance at all
And if you chop off the tail of a mouse it doesn't become a hamster. Not my quote but I love it!
All these deluded woke clowns are there to be laughed at or ignored but never to be believed
If this nonsensical misogyny continues, my cat is going to identify as a Northern Spotted Owl so we can flee to our own protective sanctuary habitat. We want many, many hectares of land.
@@Cici1791 there will be a point we will need to separate ourselves from this lunacy completely, it is a western disease
Nor does the fox behave like a chicken, ever...
No woman should vote labour. I didnt, for this very reason
Sadly most labour voters are women.
I didn't for the very reason you did
*No woman should vote.
Fixed
@@calstonjewfound the incel
@@Shadylady4181 I'm actually gay, and am being honest about women because I don't care if they get stroppy and withhold sex from me.
How refreshing a sensible lady talking common sense ! 🤔
SOLUTION!! Let the 'trans' people have their own sport category!
They don’t want their own anything TiMs want to be in women’s spaces
Absolutely
@@Shadylady4181Precisely. Domination & transgressing women's boundaries is fundamental to their fetish.
but that wouldn't validate their delusion
Olympics in Transsylvania, I suppose
Why does one person's self-ascribed 'preferred pronouns' supersede my preferred pronouns for them? I'm the one who is speaking of another, so it's my preference. Not theirs. They can call themselves anything they like, but their preference is none of my concern.
I just ignore all that nonsense.
Jordan Peterson said this manybyears ago. He said that you could ask him not to use a certain word if someone is offended by it but you could not ask him to use a word that has no meaning for him....eg cis and pronouns like they for he/she.
I'm a 66 yr old woman identifying as 35. I require full surgery and medication to achieve this effect.
I absolutely loved this woman who made some very very obvious points but highlighted these points in such a great way.
You don't treat people suffering from body dismorphia with a scalpel
👍
How then?
@MichelleDavis-xk8rc with therapy to help them accept and love their natural bodies. And maybe just accept that they are just gay as well.
The same therapy used fir anorexics that think they are fat and burned or disfigured persons. To help them focus on their intellect, heart, talents, instead of what is on the outside.
@@MichelleDavis-xk8rctherapy and medication if necessary.
@@lynnmarie2962it’s like obesity is beautiful… 😢
I dont trust Labour on this issue
or any issue !
There’s no issue, you’re imagining it!!!
@@ClactonCuun men competing in female sports is definitely an issue, as is their determination to invade female changing rooms and public loos.
I don't trust Labour on any issue.
Trusting them with anything is your first big mistake
Labour clown world.
More people in positions of authority need to take a stand and reject the inevitable false accusations of bigotry made by the extremists pushing men in women's spaces and sports.
And more men, fathers, husbands, brothers etc need to step up and say no!
@@nikkygovier3783Women have made it clear Men have no say on anything. They made this mess voting with their hearts and not their heads they are on their own to deal with their own mess. What was the reports coming out this week? 3000 native women and young girls suffering violent grape and SA, what happened when men spoke about this 2 decades ago? Racist, xenophobic, bigots. Their mess to clean now.
Thank you for that comment!
They're too scared of losing jobs, pension and getting attacked (physically) by the Left, also their own families are at risk. Its "speak and your own safety is at risk".
For me the decider has always been the fact that we only have men trying to get into women's sport and no women trying to get into men's sport. This proves that men have an advantage competing against women.
Do the bookies still accept bets on tran..s participating in woman's sports.......... There's a fortune out there waiting to be won!
although there was a "trans man" (born a girl) who decided that he wanted to box against a man and got knocked the f*cked out in 20 seconds.
That's because women have spent all their time trying to get in everything that men do .😅
Alphabet privilege needs to stop.
This woman is 100% right.
We seem to have more phobias in this country in the last 20 years, if we disagree with something we have a phobia especially from the Labour party.
Don’t forget the “isms” too !
Trans women can compete fairly... in chess.
True, thought it should still be split based off sex considering women have less opportunities across the world regarding chess (societal norms, gender roles etc).
They’re men though, so no. The whole point is that they want to invade every single space made for women, for “validation”. Getting into detail about physical combat is missing the point.
Brilliant😂
@@SheridanM-dc1nk Think OPs comment was meant to be sarcastic
Agree with that!
I meet many women who hold gender critical views in private but are scared to voice them in public for fear of a backlash against them.
Joan Smith, an excellent advocate for common sense, so rational and temperate, and she has truth on her side and she doesn't undermine the cause by exaggerations, sophistry or hyperbole.
In sport- let men compete against men, ladies against ladies and those confused about gender compete against other people who are confused. Sorted.
I feel sad for natural born women this of disgusting and unfair....
You mean….women? All women are natural born 🤦👀
What is a Woman? Whatever Labour tells us what a Woman is. Stuff that, a Woman is an adult human female and that is in the oxford dictionary.
We don't need the Oxford dictionary to tell us what we are. We've lived it since our birth.
@@jsemplefelton5348 My wife and Daughters have too. I find it disgusting that a man can wake up in the morning and be a woman at bedtime and I am supposed to accept it under fear of prosecution.
@@stevetodd7030 - when a minority can dictate to the majority regarding the biology of male and female and the people we vote in agree with them, we have a huge problem. All I know is it is becoming a cult and I am not joining it.
Nandy, not the only duplicitous & mendacious activist on the Front Bench.
THANK YOU Joan Smith, VERY WELL SPOKEN !!!
I visited Birmingham New Street station recently and witnessed a man dressed as a woman coming out of the public ladies loo at the station. The women in the vicinity were totally shocked!
This rampant extreme wokery has got totally out of control 😮
How many women voted for Labour? This is a joke government!
Not me. Probably all the old folks who had enough of conservaties and picked the other turd.
Too many.
Remember the protesters outside Holyrood, demanding the GRRA be passed...... Yeah, mostly females
@@pancakepop680not this 'old person'. I find it is more likely to be the idealistic young people who have had very little experience of living under a Labour government. None of the main parties represent hardworking Brits. They win elections on promises which are broken the minute they are elected. Time for change.
Main reason I didn't vote for them..... If they can't say what a woman is then this woman won't vote for them
Never heard of this women but she seems to be talking a lot sense …
Right! So letting men box against women is suddenly acceptable? Who thought that up?
Well that’s what you get when you deny reality they demand that others do the same
I will not be forced to do anything by anyone else
Well said that woman
Not watching the transolympics.
Male and female - that’s it.
Hilarious.
Calling someone transphobic is a childish way of saying I don't agree with you so shut up. So-called inner 'gender-identity' should have no legal standing whatsover.
It's the same thing done, when people mention the gender apartheid of islam. The whole conversation is shut down, with accusations of islamophobia.
You have an irrational fear of trsns people
@MichelleDavis-xk8rc it is not a fear, but is true caring. Feeding into someone's delusion, does not help them get well. "Trans" surgeries and HRT against the natural body, is usually extremely detrimental to health.
If these men did not insist on invading women's and girl's spaces, and indictrinating children, no one would care what full grown adults do. But it is harmful to health.
@@MichelleDavis-xk8rchow did you come to that blanket statement when you don’t even know the person, nor did they say anything about hate or fear?
Self righteous alturistic behavior
@pinchebruha405 I don't think you know what altruistic means.
A phobia is an irrational fear if something. Being afraid can sometimes be rational.
If you have an unfounded believe that us used to undermine a minority group, you are insecure and fearful of them because they are different.
What a smart woman.
Joan Smith is pure class.
The *BETRAYAL* is... *Feminist Movement* still remain *SILENT*
On Thursday and Friday of this week male boxers (from Algeria and Taiwan) will compete in the ring against real women. Somebody gonna get hurt. Men's weight is in their shoulders, upper body, women's in the hips. Cannot compete. A female Mexican boxer explained how awful it was to actually absorb the blows from a man against her head and body.
Trans against trans only, stop disrespecting women’s sports.
What did you expect when you voted for Labour? The tory party in Britain was left of Stalin. Labour is even worse.
Less people voted for labour then the previous election.
You guys just have an appalling undemocratic system.
Actually, if you look at the political compass, the current Labour Party has swung massively to the right.
@@HollyLyne you are clueless
Pretendy world is not reality. How can we look up to MP's who accept this without question.
Garbage
This lady sounds remarkably sensible. What on earth was she doing anywhere near the Labour Party?
you should be talking about Tommy but i bet Ofcom has warned you eyy?
Thankyou, Andrew, for continuing to shine a light on this.
The group most discriminated against are the whie working class
Labour never answer any question asked of them
Free Tommy
Serves him right for leading hate marches!!!
@@ClactonCuun😂😅 but blm was mostly peaceful 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Serves him right as he broke an order from the High Court. Play stupid games win stupid prizes...
@@ClactonCuunPatriotism = Hate by default now does it?
@@ClactonCuun- so just like the pro Palestine marches.
It’s all about money, which is why a lot of companies & councils go along with it. Take the money away and all this #Transideology goes away and the money should go to therapists that can offer these pretend men & pretend women therapy they need.
Labour are just woke ! I get the feeling they will not last very long in this current climate !
Wouldn’t you say ? 🇬🇧
Why did Emmeline Pankhurst even bother.
Forget testosterone levels. What about the skeletal difference between men and women especially when it comes to hip and pelvic movement and knee joints?
As a life long Labour supporter, I voted Conservative for the first time in my life because of Labour’s woke stance against women.
Wow. That statement shows how bright you are 😂
Sorry there two cheeks of the same arse
The whole point of forcing someone to believe something they know to be untrue isn't only conformity: it's control. If you've outsourced your thinking to the Party, or to the Blob, you have to check with them as to what to think about anything!
Which is why if they can get you to believe absurdities, thy can get you to commit atrocities.
How is it untrue?
no excuses, women need protected and thats it. end the insanity now
Starmer will do and say the most delusional things to be liked and for voters.
This grinds my goddamn gears. Enough already
No trans insanity
Lisa Nandy opted out don't vote for those who won't protect our women/ Ladies and girls
well said, really important that sane voices continue to be heard lest we all forget reality!
She's passing the buck!
Women athletes are also more at risk of knee damage due to their wider hips. Men can take all the hormones in the world but they will always have narrower hips. Sharron Davies explains this much better than I can.
They live by asking advisers in a little circle. Meet real people and get shocked
Riley Gaines for Congress
Communists shocked by indigenous tribes attachment to their culture and shared history.
Women will just say we wont compete against them .what they going to do if all not just a few but all women refuse to compete.
Already happening everywhere. It's just becoming another man's sport.
How creepy, but what do you expect from ideologue groomers 🤓
It surely must be very difficult for these people who's mind and body dont align sexually. I have no issue with them, after all, dont we all just want to be happy. But for biological men to compete in womens sports, is obviously not the right way forward.
I am ever so tired of this debate. If these people, Starmer, Nandy and the like can't make as simple a distinction as that between male and female, then they shouldnt be making decisions in any of those arenas where knowing that is important.
We shouldn’t even be having these conversations.
Male & Female. That’s it.
Lisa Nandy should be fired!
Yes we are actually being VERY VERY IGNORED AND MADE TO FEEL SECOND CLASS!
Why are people surprised, the concerns have been around for years with no one listening. People tried to be tolerant but they are increasingly shutting out women from the discussion and certainly not listening to legitimate concerns over women's safety. You cannot shove this down peoples throats without a push back.
Women are being horribly betrayed
How can they be shocked? Have they heard us at all?
There was a great come back in Canada with the Woman's Weight Lifting Team. Check it out you will be amazed at the backlash. One Trans female complaining about another for just having to say he identified as a woman and was able to trounce the Trans female who held the record.
The Labour Party has taken over so how will women do after that
Shocked? Whatever more like denial of REALITY
Note: You can chop off a rat's tail , but it will never become a Hamster 😂 !!!.
2 different species.
In my 60 years of life,aggression obvuously has minimally occurred. But there was no hatred towards these people, until they started to squeal!🤣🤣🤣🇬🇧🇬🇧
The IOC have done what Nandy has done and left it up to a countries sporting bodies to decide if men identifying as women can participate in womens sports in these Olympics. That is why there are men participating in some womens events. At least 2 men will box against women in these Olympics.
The statistics of harm against biological women in Brazil is also horrific. As for biological women the only way forward is to isolate and not partake. But they've voted for this again.
Nandy Pandy is a clown
Low testerone levels don't counteract muscle mass, bone density and lung and heart capacity.
Stop asking politicians to do their job! They are far too busy working on their bank accounts and Twitter feeds.
Why is this even being discussed? It's like discussing the shape of the world.
#FreeTommyRobinson
Well done. They just had the chance to change it
Lisa Nandy, culture secretary just goes to prove its non ministry because there only MEN & WOMEN
Starmer has pretended to change his mind and has asked Nandy to speak for him so he can have plausible. deniability
Your identity is not my responsibility. I have no reason to prop anyone up that refuses to be what they are.
The People put ‘You’ in Labour, so DO AS YOU’RE TOLD.
No, no, no and no!!! Absolute madness.