3:53 "they look at themselves all day every day" man a few months back I wouldn't have got this. I recently started weight training, and I only measured my weight and waist consistently. and while they were both going down, I didn't see much change. but a week ago, had a family gathering and everyone made a comment on how slimmer I looked. it really showed me that my hard work was paying off
I like the idea of knowing body fat percentages but I have moved away from tracking and I just look for small changes in my body. My stomach and love handles are the last to go when training so I look for definition in my body on the whole. For example if I am on track with muscle building and fat loss I look at my shoulders from the back if I see my pumpkin look I know I’m leaning down but if there is no definition then I know I’m putting fat back on.
I also have a much more body fat from my quads up and ribs down. Probably from being obese when I was younger. Seeing flab in the middle and 14% body fat from the DEXA was the main shocker for me.
Ohh man, the last 30 seconds of this video was so helpful for me to hear. I’ve been doing so well in the gym getting stronger, bigger. Finally ready to cut to try and see abs. When my trainer measured my body fat percentage and it was 10.6%, he thought it was awesome. I felt demoralized because all these other videos show guys with awesome looking midsections at 12-15% and here I am at 10 with flubby looking tummy thinking how in the world am I supposed to get this lower to see the results I want to see? So it was really great to hear a pro doesn’t really see his abs until 8% either. Thank you guys so much for the videos.
if you have a flubby looking tummy you are not probably at 10%.the abs can be visible at a certain extent at much higher bodyfat even at 20%.This depend on many factors like the muscle development and the fat distribution in your body.Which method did your trainer use to measure your BF?
@@antonisgkiokas4359 I’m probably a little hard on myself when I say flubby tummy lol. I can pinch a little bit of fat but it’s not too much. And they used the little handheld one which I know certainly isn’t the most accurate either. Still, hearing these guys who have trained for years don’t always get the results they want makes me feel a lot better about my situation. That I might not be doing something wrong necessarily.
Do you actually train abs with progressive overload ? Not just sit ups but leg raises and cable crunches. I've just started a cut at 20% and can see abs but I train them and do all of my heavy compounds. You need to BULK and feed some growth.
@@mattallthat I do try and progressive overload, yea. It’s just sometimes hard to feel if the work I’m doing is REALLY working the abs or if other muscles are chipping in too much. The more videos I’ve watched, the more it seems like my cable crunches weren’t being done very well. I’ll keep trying tho!
I wouldnt fixate on abs anyway. Looking big in clothes should be everyone's initial objective. Then cut when you spill over . In my opinion. If you are truly 10% I would go on a lean bulk now.
Dexa is wildly inaccurate. Greg Doucette is right about that. First, it doesn't measure bone density. It measures bone AREA density. That is, it's ESTIMATING bone volume based on an algorithm. Then there's errors in edge detection in bone, lean mass and fat mass. You need contrast to do that accurately. Then there's the issue of calibration. These machines need to be calibrated regularly in order to be accurate. True MEDICAL facilities bother with that (because they can be sued for malpractice), but these "fitness clinics" don't freaking bother! If you want to max "lean mass" read on a DEXA, get as hydrated as possible. I'm not talking about just drinking water, but loading up with electroytes especially potassium. Get as much creatine as you can. Then get a hella pump before you do the scan (bring exercise bands?). If you did all that, I bet that scan would have dip 10% less body fat than what it would read otherwise or maybe even less. Dexas aren't accurate. Some people might be vaguely aware of this, but few people are knowledgable like me and really know how to hack results. I know specific techniques to make the DEXA show imlausibly low bodyfat numbers (like below 3%) but it's hard to do and I'm keeping that method secret for now. Try the above methods and get a rescan, I want to see the results. I'll do a video where I apply my secret technique, and go in unfit as shit, and I will make the Dexa scan show me being more jacked and ripped than Chris Bumstead. Watch. So you're right, hydrostatic test is way more accurate. The only thing that can throw that off is if you have unusually high bone density (previous PED user or just mutant) , and that will only throw it off a few pounds on the lean mass. Way, way WAY more accurate than Dexa. Props to the Dexa marketing team though! "Gold standard" PFFFFF
If you were my pt and you told me to put my scale away, I would fire you that literal millisecond. Until they make a square foot piece of equipment that I can stand on and it ACCURATELY displays body fat, the scale and calipers are all the average man can use to gauge these things. Unless you boys wanna buy me an MRI to see how much fat I have, this is horrible info. You call it a tool then tell me to put it away. Make up your mind.
They literally tell you how to gauge these things without a scale. With all the experience and both personal and professional success.these men have in the fitness industry I'd say you should at least give their advice a try. I started listening 6 months ago and my entire fitness journey has leveled up. I know weight loss and body image can be frustrating but these guys are the real deal.
@@GregariousAntithesis yea interesting. I bought a "smart" scale yesterday and I'm 19% on it lol. I did a caliper measurement and I'm 13% and i look below 15% for sure. Gonna see if the smart scale is consistent at least to see the progress
@@AshknFX my smart scale says im around 20 and the gyms impedience measurement volt 360 says im 16.2 i figure im closer to 20 than 16 hence why a dexa.
seconds in and the questions answered in 3 words. amazing
3:53 "they look at themselves all day every day"
man a few months back I wouldn't have got this.
I recently started weight training, and I only measured my weight and waist consistently. and while they were both going down, I didn't see much change. but a week ago, had a family gathering and everyone made a comment on how slimmer I looked. it really showed me that my hard work was paying off
I like the idea of knowing body fat percentages but I have moved away from tracking and I just look for small changes in my body. My stomach and love handles are the last to go when training so I look for definition in my body on the whole. For example if I am on track with muscle building and fat loss I look at my shoulders from the back if I see my pumpkin look I know I’m leaning down but if there is no definition then I know I’m putting fat back on.
My scale told me I was at 20%
Dexa scan said 14%
It completely changed my perspective
Scales are the Most inaccurate way to measure body fat
scales suck. Hard. I've found they're consistently 4-6% over what the Navy Tape method gets me.
I also have a much more body fat from my quads up and ribs down. Probably from being obese when I was younger.
Seeing flab in the middle and 14% body fat from the DEXA was the main shocker for me.
6-6 195 had me @ 16 percent when I really 14.1 percent smh
Ohh man, the last 30 seconds of this video was so helpful for me to hear. I’ve been doing so well in the gym getting stronger, bigger. Finally ready to cut to try and see abs. When my trainer measured my body fat percentage and it was 10.6%, he thought it was awesome. I felt demoralized because all these other videos show guys with awesome looking midsections at 12-15% and here I am at 10 with flubby looking tummy thinking how in the world am I supposed to get this lower to see the results I want to see? So it was really great to hear a pro doesn’t really see his abs until 8% either. Thank you guys so much for the videos.
if you have a flubby looking tummy you are not probably at 10%.the abs can be visible at a certain extent at much higher bodyfat even at 20%.This depend on many factors like the muscle development and the fat distribution in your body.Which method did your trainer use to measure your BF?
@@antonisgkiokas4359 I’m probably a little hard on myself when I say flubby tummy lol. I can pinch a little bit of fat but it’s not too much. And they used the little handheld one which I know certainly isn’t the most accurate either. Still, hearing these guys who have trained for years don’t always get the results they want makes me feel a lot better about my situation. That I might not be doing something wrong necessarily.
Do you actually train abs with progressive overload ? Not just sit ups but leg raises and cable crunches. I've just started a cut at 20% and can see abs but I train them and do all of my heavy compounds. You need to BULK and feed some growth.
@@mattallthat I do try and progressive overload, yea. It’s just sometimes hard to feel if the work I’m doing is REALLY working the abs or if other muscles are chipping in too much. The more videos I’ve watched, the more it seems like my cable crunches weren’t being done very well. I’ll keep trying tho!
I wouldnt fixate on abs anyway. Looking big in clothes should be everyone's initial objective. Then cut when you spill over . In my opinion. If you are truly 10% I would go on a lean bulk now.
They nailed it.
Underrated video 👍🏽
Dexa is wildly inaccurate. Greg Doucette is right about that. First, it doesn't measure bone density. It measures bone AREA density. That is, it's ESTIMATING bone volume based on an algorithm. Then there's errors in edge detection in bone, lean mass and fat mass. You need contrast to do that accurately. Then there's the issue of calibration. These machines need to be calibrated regularly in order to be accurate. True MEDICAL facilities bother with that (because they can be sued for malpractice), but these "fitness clinics" don't freaking bother! If you want to max "lean mass" read on a DEXA, get as hydrated as possible. I'm not talking about just drinking water, but loading up with electroytes especially potassium. Get as much creatine as you can. Then get a hella pump before you do the scan (bring exercise bands?). If you did all that, I bet that scan would have dip 10% less body fat than what it would read otherwise or maybe even less. Dexas aren't accurate. Some people might be vaguely aware of this, but few people are knowledgable like me and really know how to hack results. I know specific techniques to make the DEXA show imlausibly low bodyfat numbers (like below 3%) but it's hard to do and I'm keeping that method secret for now. Try the above methods and get a rescan, I want to see the results. I'll do a video where I apply my secret technique, and go in unfit as shit, and I will make the Dexa scan show me being more jacked and ripped than Chris Bumstead. Watch. So you're right, hydrostatic test is way more accurate. The only thing that can throw that off is if you have unusually high bone density (previous PED user or just mutant) , and that will only throw it off a few pounds on the lean mass. Way, way WAY more accurate than Dexa. Props to the Dexa marketing team though! "Gold standard" PFFFFF
If you were my pt and you told me to put my scale away, I would fire you that literal millisecond. Until they make a square foot piece of equipment that I can stand on and it ACCURATELY displays body fat, the scale and calipers are all the average man can use to gauge these things. Unless you boys wanna buy me an MRI to see how much fat I have, this is horrible info. You call it a tool then tell me to put it away. Make up your mind.
pretty angry comment but I can understand your frustration here.
They literally tell you how to gauge these things without a scale. With all the experience and both personal and professional success.these men have in the fitness industry I'd say you should at least give their advice a try. I started listening 6 months ago and my entire fitness journey has leveled up. I know weight loss and body image can be frustrating but these guys are the real deal.
It’s always very tough to improve your hat you can’t measure
WTF how is it you dont even mention Dexa scan.
Because it's not ideal for the average joe to get dexa scane every week or month
@@AshknFX you do it once as a baseline to contrast the accuracy of your other devices. I have one scheduled for tomorrow for the first time.
@@GregariousAntithesis yea interesting. I bought a "smart" scale yesterday and I'm 19% on it lol. I did a caliper measurement and I'm 13% and i look below 15% for sure.
Gonna see if the smart scale is consistent at least to see the progress
@@AshknFX my smart scale says im around 20 and the gyms impedience measurement volt 360 says im 16.2 i figure im closer to 20 than 16 hence why a dexa.
@@GregariousAntithesis yea. I feel the caliper also a good cheap way to get every week. Just need to order a decent one now