OSW LIVES! More resilient than TNA after getting booted off a TV station 😃 Pls thumbs up & comment so it'll wake UA-cam up that it's available again! Fav part of the episode?
@@aolwarez You do realize it was AEW shutting channels down right? AEW isn't forcing shit...Jesus the AEW fanboys can be delusional, they didn't "open the forbidden door" other companies had done it for decades and realize its not worth it when someone gets hurt and it screws their writing, they didn't get a "win" against Smackdown, nobody cares about demos except for advertisers and, they shut down channels especially ones criticizing them just as quickly as WWE or any other company.
@@MovieEnvy idk spreading false facts is probably a worse offense than being a little mean to those spreading the false facts....and the real sad thing is attacking a person directly for saying "Jesus the AEW fanboys can be delusional" which is a literal fact...id even call that hateful and sad....maybe take your own advice and find a hobby.
Can we talk about the fact that you took the time to address the very real situation with Ryan Probert's wife, discussed it in a serious tone, and actively helped his fundraising for her surgery... And you STILL made a point to slag his surname? That's some amazing dedication to a running gag lol
I think it actually helped with the fundraising, making them likable instead of just people to pity, which is usually how these crowdfunds end up going. Hope the Proberts are doing well today!
As a young lad who was deeply into all things Raven, Kidman's face turn legitimately has to be one of my top five mark outs, my friends and I were losing our minds on the sofa.
1:22:20 - Roddy Piper is 44 in this match. Just some active wrestlers who are currently 44 or older and still doing solid in-ring work: AJ Styles 44 Brock Lesnar 44 Jeff Hardy 44 John Cena 44 Frankie Kazarian 44 Bobby Lashley 45 Shelton Benjamin 46 Christian Cage 47 Edge 47 Chris Jericho 50 Dustin Rhodes 52
When I watched this live back in the day, I thought Buff's injury was a shoot, because there was no way they'd spend 9 MINUTES OF PPV TIME on a fake injury. But this was WCW, so of course they would.
They did that shit a lot in that era and it pissed me off. They do it with Bret in a few weeks. Such crap. They did the Owen voice before the owen voice
As a lifelong die hard Hitman fanatic, I popped for that, and the image of an NWO pink and black. I know it was a bit of a throwaway joke for the guys, but damn. That would have been awesome.
So basically Goldberg will have a match against a smaller guy, who is a random jobber with no build, but won't wrestle against a smaller guy who isn't a jobber and has some sort of momentum behind him? What a fragile man he is.
Honestly, how would it have hurt Goldberg's heat if he had just come out and squashed Jericho when he was already demolishing jobbers for months? He'd only get MORE heat for silencing a braggart heel and get a PPV payday for merely a couple minutes of work. Shows what a clueless moron Goldberg was. His lack of knowledge of the business was a detriment to himself.
@@ryankeefe6222 I forget who was telling the story, (Bishoff maybe) but they were talking about how by this time you had a bunch of guys who had grown up with Heenan and Mean Gene since the 70's when they were in AWA. The younger guys backstage thought the were icons and they all thought it was the funniest thing to try to pop Bobby or Gene without warning. It then caught on to some of the older guys like Hennig, Hall, Raven, etc who had known those guys for 10 or 20 + years who joined in. It became a point of pride to break Gene or pop Bobby. I'm assuming Raven and Saturn were trying to screw with Bobby. Bobby probably knew there was a fake Goldberg coming, but not a tall midget. And obviously Jericho with the "Gene Mean".
La Parka is my boy too! I love him so much. I went to an MLW show a few years ago and the original La Parka (LA Park) was advertised for it. I was so psyched! Then he wasn't there. I almost wanted to cry.
yeah it's sad one bad call by him losing it on a jobber and nearly killing him pretty much ruined his career. now when you think of Perry Saturn all you think is hes that silly guy who was fcking a mop. you dont think of the amazing technical wrestler.
@@cjvaye99 idk man. Perry is my boy but I'd wager that his terrible mic skills held him back more than anything. Wrestlers have done much worse than him and gone on to be world champion...
@@NoUseForAName06 Exactly. Even if the incident with Mike Bell (I believe that was his name) didn’t happen, Saturn was never going to be this whole star.
To be fair to Goldberg: EVERYONE was against this match against Jericho. Bischoff, Hogan, and others confronted Jericho and told him to stop the push. So they're all idiots.
It's amazing just how bad Stevie Ray was. He could barely handle a minute or 2 in the ring at a time when he was with Booker T in Harlem Heat. His singles matches on Nitro in '98 and '99 were beyond atrocious. He had no idea what he was doing.
I was there that night. The reason the crowd chanted BS and threw garbage was that they didn’t announce the rule changes to us in the arena. So when there was a random pin fall out of nowhere, we didn’t know what had happened or how the match was over without a submission.
Chris Jericho with Ralphus was in my opinion was some of his best work! Ralphus was great! Interesting fact, when WCW when out of business, Ralphus was making over $100k
Fun fact, I went to college in Winston Salem, and I was in the pep band for the basketball team, and we always entered the arena through the doors where Jericho went outside, so it was really nostalgic for me seeing Jericho walk around backstage.
This one one of the first pay per views I ever saw. How? My dad had a friend at work, this friend had one of those gimmicked PPV boxes, and he taped it for me. I wore that VHS tape out, man. I'll never forget rewinding Saturn's Death Valley Driver off the apron through the table on Lodi. I loved that spot so much. Would recreate with my action figures for years to come.
@@OSW Gotta be honest, man, there's a line between cheesy and too cheesy. I'm not sure where it is or what earns you a spot on either side, but for WHATEVER reason, Mortis is the man. That's the way it always was and the way it will always be. Is that green skull gear terrible? Or is it awesome? I GENUINELY have no idea. ...Which is awesome.
I actually distinctly remember that Raven/Saturn match as being a brilliant capper to a great feud. The Kidman spot is especially great 'cuz it was a legit turning point for him, and it was a great piece of storytelling. Like, the WCW version of the Flock is a little watered down and Raven didn't have complete control over it, which is why you had guys like Horace Hogan and Van Hammer in there, but the general idea was always that Raven was this charismatic cult leader who built a group around himself of misfits, outcasts and losers that he could easily exploit by making them feel like they had a place to belong, when really it was just a way to feed his own fragile ego. The whole Saturn feud was great because it took one of the guys that wasn't a total loser and had him realise he was getting a raw deal, had him push back against the group, and overcome adversity to take the whole cult down. The Kidman spot was especially brilliant 'cuz through the whole feud, Saturn had been getting punished for pointing out the truth of how shit the Flock had it, but they were all too indoctrinated and cowed for fear of reprisal to resist. Then you have Kidman going up top for another hit job on Saturn like you've seen a thousand times before up to that point, but knowing what's at stake and that Raven losing means the end of the Flock, he STANDS UP FOR HIMSELF, and turns on Raven so he had a chance to be free! It's a really great little moment that conveys a lot of meaning and the resolution of YEARS of storytelling and character development in a way you don't see too often in wrestling. It's also little wonder that Kidman went on to be the real breakout star from the Flock after that one moment of rebellion set off his face turn. The whole Saturn feud was straight out of the ECW playbook, taking a lot of cues from the classic feud with Tommy Dreamer. As the culmination of everything, the match was a real master class in long-term storytelling, and a great example of why Raven is one of the great minds for wrestling psychology, as well as one of my personal all-time favourite wrestlers. The PPV may not have been worth going out of your way to see, but personally, I would recommend checking that match out, particularly if you can get the promo package that explains all the context going into it.
So glad these videos are available to everyone! I was too young to watch wcw + wwf (23 this year) so this channel has really helped me connect with my dad over old school wrestling, which is invaluable to me. Thanks for the content lads 😎
Just want to say how incredible and wonderful your content is. UA-camrs either die as heroes or live long enough to become heels, but you are exceptions to that rule. There is no one that doesn't LOVE you. You have created an incredible culture, a fanbase of diehards that speak in your catchphrases and inside jokes. I see comment after comment about how you help people through tough times in life. And you genuinely seem like nice human beings, always with a kind word, and humble and gracious. I just marvel at your work and your community. So glad this cleared copyright because we need every bit of bollix we can get. Love this era of WCW and this story arc. Thank you for everything and please never stop.
46:18 I find it so hilarious that Konnan forgets his headphones plugged in when he stands up. And there's that split second of "Oh shit! What did I break?"
Popped at the Warrior appearance in the mirror doing the animation sequence when you guys were talking about how it would be cool for Warrior to appear all over the place etc.
Won't watch this until tomorrow evening, since my friend is busy tonight and we always watch these together. Can't wait for more warrior and hogan shenanigans. 2 huge egos in their own right. :P
Jericho is a treasure. Love his little inside jokes and references, and really enjoyed him taking the piss outta Goldberg's entrances and being the midcard heel comedically calling out the world champion.
I'm pretty sure the bump at 15:06 is the one that did Bulldog's career. He says it was from a bodyslam, and that's the only bodyslam he takes in the right area. He also doesn't bounce at all and looks in pain afterwards.
Did Jay call him Ultimate Warrior (when Warrior was breaking the side of the War Games cage) and have to to bleep out the word Ultimate? Did WWE make him do that? 🤣
So I found the spot where Bulldog lands on the trapdoor. I think it happened early in the match. So Wright shoots Davey Boy off for a back body drop, and Davey does land on his hip, but he kinda rebounds the door. I might be kinda wrong, but that’s what the internet says. Great video, more than worth the wait. Can’t wait until the next upload
Raven's Flock were my jam back in my angsty teen days. When making my personal Boys Stable I have to actively work to not just make it Raven's Flock. Lodi is my bottom boy for sure.
What a better way to spend my day before going to work then to have a bit of craic with the lads and watch some carney WCW bollocks. Thank you lads for all that you do. I needed a good laugh and as always you lads over deliver in a massive way. Can of coke for all of you lads
fun fact: supposedly Raven and Saturn were up like 3 or 4 days on ecstasy and raven couldn't remember any of the spots and Saturn carried him through it which makes their fall brawl match way more impressive to me. I remember Raven told a story in some shoot interview about
That tracks. According to the man himself, Raven was so drugged out during most of his WCW run he refers to it as 'The Lost Years', 'cuz he can barely remember any of it.
Hearing my favorite Irish lads use the term "North Cackalacky" in regards to my home state has just made the remainder of my year for me. (Lawrence Joel Veteran's Memorial Coliseum was also the place where I saw Tool live for the 2nd time, probably one of the best shows I've ever attended) Cheers fellas! Whopper review!
It was definitely not made clear that this was every man for himself! I was so confused when Piper started attacking DDP, I thought he heel turned on him! What is the point of having teams if you're all going to fight each other? Just have a big tumbler and select participants at random.
this match was so stupid. you're right it didnt make sense what's the point of having teams and calling it war games if its every man for himself and it's not elimination. that's the other dumb thing I remembered it being elimination. but then of course it wasnt because WCW gave wrestlers creative control and those guys arent taking pins if they dont want to.
Great vid guys, loved it but have to say Bulldog was already a physical wreck before that match. His drug addiction was already out if control and he was bumping on his hip like Ric Flair throughout that match as his back was already knackered. Much like Jake Roberts claiming Honky Tonk Man injured his neck with the guitar shot and worsened his drug use, Bulldog used it as an excuse to continue to escalate his own.
I think that the use of the word “excuse” there is a tad insensitive. Even if you or I can’t know for certain the state of the men’s substance abuse issues at the time of their injuries, it isn’t tasteful to point and go “nuh-uh” at somebody’s addiction. Especially if one of them is dead, and can’t speak for himself.
This was my first ppv! My brothers and I saved up all our Allowance to buy it, watch it live that night. I remember loving it, we recorded it on vhs, and watched it over and over again. This is the first time I’ve seen the entire card top to bottom since I was maybe 10. I honestly only remembered the wargames match. And easily see why i’ve never recalled the rest of it. Because it was shit!
I was halfway through last time when it went down, I'm happy to watch the whole thing again. Truly didn't take long for everyone to turn on Warriah, he's always been a two-pump chump of a performer.
Did they switch rings then after the first match, after Bulldog jacked up his back on Warrior’s trapdoor??? Looks like they did but not sure if it’s just like different camera angles I’m seeing or something...
damn i cant remember which video saturn comes out in a beret and chain link vest but i finally get why he dresses like hes in a leather bar. he was a ranger in the army. the beret and clothing options make alot more sense. leather culture and service is almost hand in hand. men brought home alot of memorabilia like uniforms which alot of accessories are leather, leather designs mimic alot of military garb and wearing it reminds them of those lonely cold nights on a mission or on deployment. i feel kinda bad for saturn with his drub abuse and what not. i suffer from ptsd myself and with most addicts, abuse sometimes feels like the only thing that keeps those memories and mind at bay. its tough no matter how much help.
18:25 "And at the end of July 2021, WWE rehired him. So DH Smith back in the fold!" And at the end of October 2021, WWE refired him without using him outside of a single dark match. So DH Smith back out of the fold!
See, they fell down when the fog hits because they were taken out by Warrior's aura, not his wrestling. They were crushed by his pure energy. His foke. His destrucity.
OSW LIVES! More resilient than TNA after getting booted off a TV station 😃 Pls thumbs up & comment so it'll wake UA-cam up that it's available again! Fav part of the episode?
Moreso favourite part of the whole arc so far but I'm loving how you lads are clearly getting more and more tired of the nWo theme, it's hilarious
Here to give my youtube click, and rewatch it as well without that crappy twitch player.
more comebacks then a Takeover main event!
I have probably watched every episode 10+ times, heres for 10 more! Thank you all for the amazing content you give us!
Is your stuff getting taken down? Sorry if im out of the loop.
My favorite part is when this video clears copyright and everyone gets to enjoy it.
That IS the best part.
@@aolwarez You do realize it was AEW shutting channels down right? AEW isn't forcing shit...Jesus the AEW fanboys can be delusional, they didn't "open the forbidden door" other companies had done it for decades and realize its not worth it when someone gets hurt and it screws their writing, they didn't get a "win" against Smackdown, nobody cares about demos except for advertisers and, they shut down channels especially ones criticizing them just as quickly as WWE or any other company.
You sound mad bro. Can't everyone enjoy everything?
@@lutherheggs451 the only people that sound worse are folks like yourself. So hateful and sad. Find something you enjoy man.
@@MovieEnvy idk spreading false facts is probably a worse offense than being a little mean to those spreading the false facts....and the real sad thing is attacking a person directly for saying "Jesus the AEW fanboys can be delusional" which is a literal fact...id even call that hateful and sad....maybe take your own advice and find a hobby.
Can we talk about the fact that you took the time to address the very real situation with Ryan Probert's wife, discussed it in a serious tone, and actively helped his fundraising for her surgery... And you STILL made a point to slag his surname? That's some amazing dedication to a running gag lol
I think it actually helped with the fundraising, making them likable instead of just people to pity, which is usually how these crowdfunds end up going. Hope the Proberts are doing well today!
If someone raised that much for my partner's life-saving surgery, I'd legally change the pronunciation if it made them happy.
O.S.W.
Singlehandedly making the world,
Pro-bert....
Fuc eRnie...
Steiner's roidyness never ceases to amaze me. Truly the roidy magoo to end all roidy magoos
Which Steiner we talking about here mate?
@@TheDustinbowman003 The one in the ring
The roidiest of magoos
It's TRULY amazing that he's still alive. His heart must be made of spun steel.
"You call that a roid? This is a roid."
Amazing work lads. Warrior arc has been brilliant so far. Absolute main eventers the lot of ya'!
We need Glacier in War Games! He could slide in on an ice ramp
We love wrestling bios
My 2 favorite wrestling channels are talking to each other? Amazing!
Can't wait until reliving the war reaches this far in a couple years. :P
love this interaction. two absolute heavyweights in this genre of videos. keep up the good work both channels rock!
I'm not sure why the sight of Jeff Jarrett in a karate outfit tapping out 7 year olds makes me smile as much as it does, but it does.
Never drew a dime!!!
As a young lad who was deeply into all things Raven, Kidman's face turn legitimately has to be one of my top five mark outs, my friends and I were losing our minds on the sofa.
Kidman was extremely over in '98 and '99. Easily the most over cruiserweight after Rey Mysterio.
@@Bubba__Sawyer till Hogan put a stop to that.
"With an asterix"
Once again, Obelix is left out.
Scott Steiner: HE'S FAT
1:22:20 - Roddy Piper is 44 in this match.
Just some active wrestlers who are currently 44 or older and still doing solid in-ring work:
AJ Styles 44
Brock Lesnar 44
Jeff Hardy 44
John Cena 44
Frankie Kazarian 44
Bobby Lashley 45
Shelton Benjamin 46
Christian Cage 47
Edge 47
Chris Jericho 50
Dustin Rhodes 52
How are they so young?
And Dustin just put on one of his best AEW matches last night at 52. Crazy.
Bobby Fish is on that list too!!
Don’t smoke cigarettes, and don’t drink alcohol.
Also play lots of video games
When I watched this live back in the day, I thought Buff's injury was a shoot, because there was no way they'd spend 9 MINUTES OF PPV TIME on a fake injury. But this was WCW, so of course they would.
They did that shit a lot in that era and it pissed me off. They do it with Bret in a few weeks. Such crap. They did the Owen voice before the owen voice
The transition of Bret’s guitar scream into the NWO theme gave me such intense blue-balls.
As a lifelong die hard Hitman fanatic, I popped for that, and the image of an NWO pink and black. I know it was a bit of a throwaway joke for the guys, but damn. That would have been awesome.
"And this begins the beginning" Quote the Raven Nevermore.
*Eat my shorts
Watch, and while watching you will see
1:10:35. I love how Virgil is reaching to help Scott cheat but he doesn't want to cheat he just wants the drink. Nice touch.
You will have the drink.
Want the drink, take the piss
So basically Goldberg will have a match against a smaller guy, who is a random jobber with no build, but won't wrestle against a smaller guy who isn't a jobber and has some sort of momentum behind him?
What a fragile man he is.
Honestly, how would it have hurt Goldberg's heat if he had just come out and squashed Jericho when he was already demolishing jobbers for months? He'd only get MORE heat for silencing a braggart heel and get a PPV payday for merely a couple minutes of work. Shows what a clueless moron Goldberg was. His lack of knowledge of the business was a detriment to himself.
It was Scott Hall whispering in his ear telling him that Jericho wasn't up to his level.
@antology7 why did Hall do that? Keep Jericho down or just to f with Bill Goldberg?
Yup
That Raven/Saturn match was great but the fingers locked off the thrusting up and down sexy pin was amazing
Knowing those two that HAD to be on purpose like an inside joke or trying to pop the boys
@@ryankeefe6222 I forget who was telling the story, (Bishoff maybe) but they were talking about how by this time you had a bunch of guys who had grown up with Heenan and Mean Gene since the 70's when they were in AWA. The younger guys backstage thought the were icons and they all thought it was the funniest thing to try to pop Bobby or Gene without warning. It then caught on to some of the older guys like Hennig, Hall, Raven, etc who had known those guys for 10 or 20 + years who joined in. It became a point of pride to break Gene or pop Bobby.
I'm assuming Raven and Saturn were trying to screw with Bobby. Bobby probably knew there was a fake Goldberg coming, but not a tall midget. And obviously Jericho with the "Gene Mean".
Konnan's rolling lariat is such an underrated move.
Always loved it
Agree
also wanna shout out that crazy roll through bottom rope lariat Kofi Kingston does
if only Max Moon did it.... wait...
I remember always doing that move on the WCW/NWO Revenge video game.
@@85wastedyears oh hell ya
Thanks to everyone who helped out Ryan Probert and his wife. You people are the real gorilla-pressing Warriors.
La Parka is my boy too! I love him so much. I went to an MLW show a few years ago and the original La Parka (LA Park) was advertised for it. I was so psyched! Then he wasn't there. I almost wanted to cry.
Man Saturn is so overlooked; guy had the best suplexes
yeah it's sad one bad call by him losing it on a jobber and nearly killing him pretty much ruined his career. now when you think of Perry Saturn all you think is hes that silly guy who was fcking a mop. you dont think of the amazing technical wrestler.
@@cjvaye99 idk man. Perry is my boy but I'd wager that his terrible mic skills held him back more than anything. Wrestlers have done much worse than him and gone on to be world champion...
@@NoUseForAName06 Exactly. Even if the incident with Mike Bell (I believe that was his name) didn’t happen, Saturn was never going to be this whole star.
Love the whole Warrior Batman theming in this arc. The 90s cartoon was just the best.
To be fair to Goldberg: EVERYONE was against this match against Jericho. Bischoff, Hogan, and others confronted Jericho and told him to stop the push.
So they're all idiots.
Stupid Idiots you might say
GIVE ME WHAT I WANT! GIVE ME WHAT I WANT
Stevie Ray lives up to his infamous reputation of being.... USELESS... Congrats mate ! Well done!
Did anybody, except maybe the Warrior, get more out of less? He made a career out of being "the other guy" in Harlem Heat.
@@MichaelSmith-fq6hz lmao ... literally the bare minimum.. he's the Ed Lesley of the team. Show up hang and bang .
Stevie Ray's one saving grace was doing color commentary on Thunder, and giving it exactly the level of effort it deserved.
@@fangjokerLS The best thing this "wrestler" did was commentary.. I agree though.. it was fun but damn lol thats just funny!!
It's amazing just how bad Stevie Ray was. He could barely handle a minute or 2 in the ring at a time when he was with Booker T in Harlem Heat. His singles matches on Nitro in '98 and '99 were beyond atrocious. He had no idea what he was doing.
I was there that night. The reason the crowd chanted BS and threw garbage was that they didn’t announce the rule changes to us in the arena. So when there was a random pin fall out of nowhere, we didn’t know what had happened or how the match was over without a submission.
Chris Jericho with Ralphus was in my opinion was some of his best work! Ralphus was great! Interesting fact, when WCW when out of business, Ralphus was making over $100k
I wouldn't doubt it... when I was watching this on t.v. in grade 7 I felt like WCW could have taken over but they watered it down instead...
lol Jericho's story about Ralphus telling Jericho that he and jericho should jump to New York. it is amazing.
Money well spent
OSW is getting the nWo jobber entrance theme over strong - definitely the new "you think youre special" of this arc
Anything to get away from 🎶WAKA-WA HEY HEYYYYYY!!!!!🎶
Fun fact, I went to college in Winston Salem, and I was in the pep band for the basketball team, and we always entered the arena through the doors where Jericho went outside, so it was really nostalgic for me seeing Jericho walk around backstage.
I do love Malenko’s dropkicks to the knee. They’re so fast and smooth.
Im goin through some things, i lost my my mom, my job and then my home but yet your videos still bring a smile to my face, and i appreciate that
God love ya man, happy we could help out even a wee bit. Keep fighting the good fight my dude! Your boys at OSW are rooting for you 💚
That rough af. Hope things are a bit better.
@@michaelb4538 Thanks brother and although slowly, things are turning around
@@shawnoe glad you replied. I'm going through some Shi myself. All we can do is keep our chin up and keep marching forward brother.
This one one of the first pay per views I ever saw. How? My dad had a friend at work, this friend had one of those gimmicked PPV boxes, and he taped it for me. I wore that VHS tape out, man. I'll never forget rewinding Saturn's Death Valley Driver off the apron through the table on Lodi. I loved that spot so much. Would recreate with my action figures for years to come.
Ian ya madman! That's an awesome memory, wearing out VHS tapes! Where's Glacier and Mortis re: your boy stable?
@@OSW Gotta be honest, man, there's a line between cheesy and too cheesy. I'm not sure where it is or what earns you a spot on either side, but for WHATEVER reason, Mortis is the man. That's the way it always was and the way it will always be. Is that green skull gear terrible? Or is it awesome? I GENUINELY have no idea. ...Which is awesome.
No fuckin way. Not only does Ian watch Osw but the Osw boys watch 616!? The collab I didn’t know I needed until now 🤤🤤🤤
I actually distinctly remember that Raven/Saturn match as being a brilliant capper to a great feud.
The Kidman spot is especially great 'cuz it was a legit turning point for him, and it was a great piece of storytelling.
Like, the WCW version of the Flock is a little watered down and Raven didn't have complete control over it, which is why you had guys like Horace Hogan and Van Hammer in there, but the general idea was always that Raven was this charismatic cult leader who built a group around himself of misfits, outcasts and losers that he could easily exploit by making them feel like they had a place to belong, when really it was just a way to feed his own fragile ego.
The whole Saturn feud was great because it took one of the guys that wasn't a total loser and had him realise he was getting a raw deal, had him push back against the group, and overcome adversity to take the whole cult down.
The Kidman spot was especially brilliant 'cuz through the whole feud, Saturn had been getting punished for pointing out the truth of how shit the Flock had it, but they were all too indoctrinated and cowed for fear of reprisal to resist. Then you have Kidman going up top for another hit job on Saturn like you've seen a thousand times before up to that point, but knowing what's at stake and that Raven losing means the end of the Flock, he STANDS UP FOR HIMSELF, and turns on Raven so he had a chance to be free!
It's a really great little moment that conveys a lot of meaning and the resolution of YEARS of storytelling and character development in a way you don't see too often in wrestling. It's also little wonder that Kidman went on to be the real breakout star from the Flock after that one moment of rebellion set off his face turn.
The whole Saturn feud was straight out of the ECW playbook, taking a lot of cues from the classic feud with Tommy Dreamer. As the culmination of everything, the match was a real master class in long-term storytelling, and a great example of why Raven is one of the great minds for wrestling psychology, as well as one of my personal all-time favourite wrestlers.
The PPV may not have been worth going out of your way to see, but personally, I would recommend checking that match out, particularly if you can get the promo package that explains all the context going into it.
Loved that feud and angle
In my top 3.
This is the second episode in which V1 is shocked that Lee Marshall voiced Tony the Tiger.
Most love Maryland has gotten since the Art Donovan stole everyone’s hearts.
"How much does he weigh?" 🤣🤣
@@LilAlpo1 dude you beat me to it I was literally about to type that 🤣🤣🤣
I think you mean Art O'donnel.
"he looks like a business man".
“Oh Maryland, my Maryland”
Marty Janetty looked amazing in 1998. It was honestly a shame that they couldn't figure something out. That guy could work.
WCW was notorious for having wrestlers they knew wouldnt even appear on a PPV on their PPV posters.
So glad these videos are available to everyone! I was too young to watch wcw + wwf (23 this year) so this channel has really helped me connect with my dad over old school wrestling, which is invaluable to me. Thanks for the content lads 😎
Ah wow man! That has made my day. Wonderful to hear. Can of coke to your dad!
Just want to say how incredible and wonderful your content is. UA-camrs either die as heroes or live long enough to become heels, but you are exceptions to that rule. There is no one that doesn't LOVE you. You have created an incredible culture, a fanbase of diehards that speak in your catchphrases and inside jokes. I see comment after comment about how you help people through tough times in life. And you genuinely seem like nice human beings, always with a kind word, and humble and gracious. I just marvel at your work and your community. So glad this cleared copyright because we need every bit of bollix we can get. Love this era of WCW and this story arc. Thank you for everything and please never stop.
Ah it's all for the eventual heel turn, "Cafeteria Bully Jay" for 2022! Seriously thank u for the kind words mate it has me beaming. A winner is you 💚
Steiner with the little band-aid on his arm had me rolling lol
Best Lodi sign? Kidman and Juvi were forever being booked together so our boy showed up with this beauty, "Kidman Vs Juventud - Best Of 2,461'.
That Terminator bit is fucking hilarious!
That Terminator sex scene / Saturn and Raven spot has absolutely ended me 🤣
46:18 I find it so hilarious that Konnan forgets his headphones plugged in when he stands up. And there's that split second of "Oh shit! What did I break?"
How much you wanna bet that Hogan somehow convinced them to start some of the smoke early, to make everyone else look dumb
Ahhh, finally I can stop watching it on Twitch. So glad it’s back.
He's gunna battery him for him, for his parents, for his fans and for the sacred Eagle feathers
Popped at the Warrior appearance in the mirror doing the animation sequence when you guys were talking about how it would be cool for Warrior to appear all over the place etc.
Sunday depression cured again. Your guys’ timing never misses.
V1 knowing about some obscure megadeth is the best thing ever.
Won't watch this until tomorrow evening, since my friend is busy tonight and we always watch these together.
Can't wait for more warrior and hogan shenanigans. 2 huge egos in their own right. :P
It hurts to watch Davey Boy Smith taking all those moves and knowing how it affects him.
Great review, laughed my ass off multiple times.
Favorite part: Jericho's "Gene Mean" reference!
Jericho is a treasure. Love his little inside jokes and references, and really enjoyed him taking the piss outta Goldberg's entrances and being the midcard heel comedically calling out the world champion.
God WCW was unbelievably stupid they had no idea what to do with Jericho Benoit and Guerrero
I'm pretty sure the bump at 15:06 is the one that did Bulldog's career. He says it was from a bodyslam, and that's the only bodyslam he takes in the right area. He also doesn't bounce at all and looks in pain afterwards.
Yeah he definitely reacts like he's hurt there
Did Jay call him Ultimate Warrior (when Warrior was breaking the side of the War Games cage) and have to to bleep out the word Ultimate? Did WWE make him do that? 🤣
"Shockingly agile", nice backhanded compliment for Norman Smiley
Bold choice not cropping out the iron cross above that new OSW tatt...
I’m not so sure that’s an iron cross. It would be odd for someone who would get an iron cross tattoo to like a video podcast done by Irish dudes.
Yea plus it's kinda changed meanin throughout the years...Triple H even used it for a symbol for a bit
Jesus I forgot how fucking big Scott Stiener was in 98
Surely he's a lock for the roidy magoo award yet again.
OOC getting mad at Ernest Miller vs Norman Smiley Part 2, was great. He got so annoyed at this feud, he couldn´t finish his sentences.
Nice to have this back. Now to watch it 10 times like I have every other episode.
My Sunday is complete with a new OSW Review! Jay, V1 and OOC, I'm so pumped for this review! I already know it will be a banger! (Farty arm noise!)
The quality of the wrestling stays the same but OSW gets better each episode. Thank you lads.
Ah that's made my day. Can of coke to you brah!
Glad it's back, this video vanished like Warrior, but with less smoke.
Schiavone's reaction when the phony Goldberg came out was great.
So I found the spot where Bulldog lands on the trapdoor. I think it happened early in the match. So Wright shoots Davey Boy off for a back body drop, and Davey does land on his hip, but he kinda rebounds the door. I might be kinda wrong, but that’s what the internet says. Great video, more than worth the wait. Can’t wait until the next upload
Raven's Flock were my jam back in my angsty teen days. When making my personal Boys Stable I have to actively work to not just make it Raven's Flock. Lodi is my bottom boy for sure.
a whole lot of my late 90s fashion sense was based on Raven
Best move by far from lucha matches are their Tilt-A-Whirl Back breakers. Always so fast and snappy
Maryland represent. Much love here for yall. I loved this episode. Another perfect one all the way through 💯 a winner is you!
What a better way to spend my day before going to work then to have a bit of craic with the lads and watch some carney WCW bollocks. Thank you lads for all that you do. I needed a good laugh and as always you lads over deliver in a massive way. Can of coke for all of you lads
Thankful that we're finally getting fall brawl. If only Halloween Havoc synced up for this year's Halloween.
Bulldog landing on his feet for that Big Show chokeslam at 12:48 😂 the ultimate Kane bump
Loving the “the WCW” arc.
Great episode lads.
Nothing better than a win on Saturday (Port Vale) and watching OSW on the Sunday still hungover, proper cure!!
1:27:27 "get's naked, get's suddy" with the Mckodem animation was brilliant
I’ve noticed that every single time we see Marty Jannety you guys comment on him being in great shape. Fair play to him staying in working shape
Discrimination lawsuit didn’t begin till Russo took over. As the basis of the lawsuit was him saying he wouldn’t push a foreign wrestler.
18:20 Nov 4th 2021 update: DH Smith future-endeavoured 😢 Hope he lands on his feet
If this arc doesn't end with Warrior vs Orlando Jordan I'll be sad
Someone watched ahead
Strong contender for "how does this match exist"
Favorite part has to be watching Ric Steiner try to communicate. And then someone try to translate by clacking keys lol
fun fact: supposedly Raven and Saturn were up like 3 or 4 days on ecstasy and raven couldn't remember any of the spots and Saturn carried him through it which makes their fall brawl match way more impressive to me. I remember Raven told a story in some shoot interview about
That tracks.
According to the man himself, Raven was so drugged out during most of his WCW run he refers to it as 'The Lost Years', 'cuz he can barely remember any of it.
@@Antonicane Also his "Jim morrison" never taking off/ Washing the same leather jocks for 2 years XD
Hearing my favorite Irish lads use the term "North Cackalacky" in regards to my home state has just made the remainder of my year for me.
(Lawrence Joel Veteran's Memorial Coliseum was also the place where I saw Tool live for the 2nd time, probably one of the best shows I've ever attended)
Cheers fellas! Whopper review!
It's back! In pog form
Bulldog will injure his back on the trap door, whether he wants to or not!
"There's no trap in this door!"
Konnan's roley poley clothesline was great.
It was definitely not made clear that this was every man for himself! I was so confused when Piper started attacking DDP, I thought he heel turned on him! What is the point of having teams if you're all going to fight each other? Just have a big tumbler and select participants at random.
I dont think WCW had rules or an end game to any match back then.sell. sell.sell.
this match was so stupid. you're right it didnt make sense what's the point of having teams and calling it war games if its every man for himself and it's not elimination. that's the other dumb thing I remembered it being elimination. but then of course it wasnt because WCW gave wrestlers creative control and those guys arent taking pins if they dont want to.
1:04:27
Knee lift to say, he had the last laugh
Great vid guys, loved it but have to say Bulldog was already a physical wreck before that match. His drug addiction was already out if control and he was bumping on his hip like Ric Flair throughout that match as his back was already knackered. Much like Jake Roberts claiming Honky Tonk Man injured his neck with the guitar shot and worsened his drug use, Bulldog used it as an excuse to continue to escalate his own.
Konnan and Disco Inferno mentioned on their podcast that everyone knew about the trap door and they’d used it already in the weeks prior.
I think that the use of the word “excuse” there is a tad insensitive.
Even if you or I can’t know for certain the state of the men’s substance abuse issues at the time of their injuries, it isn’t tasteful to point and go “nuh-uh” at somebody’s addiction. Especially if one of them is dead, and can’t speak for himself.
Ad now that Scott is on life support and his family is. Taking him off. Rip
I never thought my home state of Mary-land will appear on OSW. We've made it!
Mine too
Man OSW makes my day with early drops.
This was my first ppv! My brothers and I saved up all our Allowance to buy it, watch it live that night. I remember loving it, we recorded it on vhs, and watched it over and over again.
This is the first time I’ve seen the entire card top to bottom since I was maybe 10. I honestly only remembered the wargames match. And easily see why i’ve never recalled the rest of it. Because it was shit!
Saturn Raven was day-sunt
Fun fact… the drink hall was drinking at havoc 98 WAS a tequila sunrise
RIP Davey, British GOAT
Show needs more Sick Boy!
I was halfway through last time when it went down, I'm happy to watch the whole thing again.
Truly didn't take long for everyone to turn on Warriah, he's always been a two-pump chump of a performer.
Did they switch rings then after the first match, after Bulldog jacked up his back on Warrior’s trapdoor??? Looks like they did but not sure if it’s just like different camera angles I’m seeing or something...
They absolutely did. Must have switched after Bulldog went backstage and had a moan.
damn i cant remember which video saturn comes out in a beret and chain link vest but i finally get why he dresses like hes in a leather bar. he was a ranger in the army. the beret and clothing options make alot more sense. leather culture and service is almost hand in hand. men brought home alot of memorabilia like uniforms which alot of accessories are leather, leather designs mimic alot of military garb and wearing it reminds them of those lonely cold nights on a mission or on deployment. i feel kinda bad for saturn with his drub abuse and what not. i suffer from ptsd myself and with most addicts, abuse sometimes feels like the only thing that keeps those memories and mind at bay. its tough no matter how much help.
Thank you guys! This is a great way to spend my lazy day off recovering from Dynamite last night.
18:25 "And at the end of July 2021, WWE rehired him. So DH Smith back in the fold!"
And at the end of October 2021, WWE refired him without using him outside of a single dark match. So DH Smith back out of the fold!
I loved Raven and his flock when I was a kid. Now he and his flock have more go-away-heat than X-Pac for me.
See, they fell down when the fog hits because they were taken out by Warrior's aura, not his wrestling. They were crushed by his pure energy. His foke. His destrucity.
That RTE clip feeds my soul 😂 another barnstorming episode lads!
For that matter, why not just have a pad on the trap door, so that it's not a huge injury risk?