I have run a Speedi for 2 years now. Doesn’t mess with the motor and just adds a few extra mph. It’s a magnet on a gear that revolves slower than the rotor fooling the sensor into thinking you are going slower. It doesn’t make you go as fast as a chip it just helps a bit.
That's great if you happen to only ride on bike specific trails. In the UK, riding an e-bike only on private land with permission isn't subject to statutory speed restrictions. Riding on public cycle paths, pavements or shared paths and trails used by a broad variety of people is a different matter, and that's why the restrictions exist. As a walker, cyclist and motorist I frequently encounter idiots on bikes, derestricted e-bikes and e-scooters behaving irresponsibly and dangerously.
25kmh is just far too slow. Especially for commuting. 32kmh the US limit is mostly enough for mountainbiking but for commuting that is also too slow. Just a dumb idea to even restrict vehicles that have less than a horsepower of peak power.
In that case, buy a proper motorbike..people who whine about e-bike speed restrictions are really being disingenuous coz what they really want is a motorbike but without the usual regulations (licence, insurance, tax etc).
It's all depends on your aim, I do use ebike as a training machine and it's helping a lot, so If I'm strong enough to push over 25 kmh, why do I need assistance? Surely you are not going beyond 25 on trail steep climbing, and of course I need no support during descents 😂 But if u want overtake cars on the road go for Sur-ron or Talaria bikes 🤝
@@AlekseyKluban It doesn't work like that. Unrestricted is better for training. When you are restricted you end up using less power as you hit the limiter. Where as unrestricted you can just maintain whatever power level you don't have to worry about adjusting power to a changing power from the motor. It just takes too much power to keep the bike above the limiter. No one has 500+ ftp so don't pretend as if you casually always ride above the limiter. To match you pedaling at 200 watts the motor produces 500 watts, that's going to be less than 40kmh on bosch gen4, you will need to produce something over 1000 wants because you lose so much power to the suspension when the motor isn't preloading it. With a 250 ftp you can ride at 200 watts but you can produce 1000 watts for a few seconds. No one in the world can match what the motor produces. Especially with full suspension. It takes about 300 watts to go over the limiter at 26kmh on flat road. It makes no sense to have a limiter it just sucks. It's ridiculous to have a restriction for a motor that doesn't even produce a horsepower of peak power. It's just a matter of derestricting the bike. Grown men should be able to think for themselves. Following rules for the sake of it is just naivety.
Here in the UK, restricted e bikes are classed as normal cycles, which means we can use cycle paths, bridle paths and shared spaces/paths. If we increase the top speed of the bikes, we will lose (legal) access to that infrastructure. There is already a process in place to register an e bike as an e motorbike, just do that.
I 100% want to try this out I really think just 25mph would be the ticket since over that im never pedaling downhill but on high speed flatter flow trails you seem right at 18-23mph and its cutting out constantly
@@tahoeebikes Yeah I have derestricted and 25mph is almost enough. You want the assist to go 45kmh as sometimes you want more speed for road section. But rarely pedal at 40kmh on trail. For trail just below 40kmh would be sufficient whatever that is in mph.
Nobody agrees on what the speed limits should be. Whatever the limit is, a lot of people want more. You're looking at it look from a purely selfish view. It's all well and good, until you start mixing that speed with irresponsible, ignorant and untrained people on e-bikes with all types of pedestrians, cyclists and on busy roads. You want a faster mode of powered transport? They exist, so use them instead. Riding fast on trails shared with slow moving walkers, people with kids or dogs might be fun for you, but it can ruin other people's enjoyment. They have as much right to be there as you.
@another3997 so restrict cars to the national speed limit then . Ban dangerous large suv vehicles then . Have a restriction of less than 1.2 tons for a car because from what I see on a daily basis drivers are far more dangerous and do stupid moves . Get ready to see more private escooters and bigger ebikes because we all can see the car biased laws .
Great bit of kit. Just to mention that isn’t the way to remove them. You run a risk of snapping the plastic cover. The recommended method is to prise the whole unit off from the bolts as recommended on the NLS website.
Device doesn’t matter because u can do it simplier way However this will cook battery faster and motor might detect it because it’s programmed for certain types of speeds and pedal ratios
Dave, don't act lak we's daft ha'p'orths.. You already said that you'd swapped the rotor and bled the brakes. How do you get the old rotor off if that gadget is in the way?
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comment. It wasent me that did the work on the bike to sort the brake, The device was brought to my attention after the work was done.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic LOL. Look, clearly people (like me) are noticing it. Doesn't seem necessary to do a good piece on it. So you can take or leave the criticism as you like.
You need to look up the installation instructions to make sure that cover is fitted to correct tolerance otherwise it will ware out or become damaged early...
If you have the valve magnet you can reroute it as a rotor magnet in retail shop and then get a chip on it. But I guess you are talking the older model so you have the disc magnet as normal and can buy just a volspeed chip.
basically a planetary gear system that slows down the magnet rotation, fooling the sensor into thinking you are going slower. about a hundred quid. i think an aussie company did them
This would involve rendering the bike illegal for use on a public highway in the UK … and is actually not such a bright idea! If you were involved in an accident your ebike would be liable for inspection … anyone you injured would have just cause to ‘sue the pants off you’ for damages sustained, whatever speed you were doing. Needless to say you would not be covered by any voluntarily purchased, third party insurance.
These have been around for years. Its a simple epicyclic gear aka a reduction gearset. These will mess up the motors mapping though since the manipulated wheel speed sensor + cadence sensor are no longer working as programmed Nobodies invented anything special here you’ll find these all over the place if you start taking motors and gearboxes apart
Why are you pretending like you don't know what's inside of it or how it comes off, which you just got done telling us you put a new rotor on the bike?
100s of chipped e-bikes and e-scooters seized in Nottingham. Other cities likely to follow. No warnings given - bikes seized and ask questions later. How much do you want to lose your fancy e - mountain bike?? Or if they want to apply the law fully, you can also get 6 points on your licence.
@Raumance And what peeps like you do is whine about a problem that doesn't exist. Want more speed? There are vehicles for that and they've existed for decades; mopeds and motorbikes! Oh, ya wanna engage in virtue-signalling? Well cool, no probs! Get an electric moped or motorbike and be smug riding a 'zero emissions' vehicle. But "no no no, I wanna ride trails!" I hear you say. No problemo! There are proper motorbikes for that called trail bikes. Whining about speed limits on eBikes is just a disingenuous complaint masking the real agenda: wanting a motorbike or moped performance whilst circumventing the usual regulations that mopeds and motorbikes attract.
We "whine" about it because it is a dumb restriction. A lot of the time I can pedal faster than that, and the e-bike slows me down. If 25 km/h is "safer" for everyone, then we probably need to make those 1+ tonne lumps of metal on the same roads (cars) also be speed restricted to 25 km/h. Any valid reason why not? They take longer to stop than a bike, they cause more damage in a collision than a bike. Thanks for giving me a new thing to pester my local elected member about.
Are you sure it's not a cadence sensor ? It doesn't seem effective as a de-restrictor cos it's just making the speedometer read slow ( surely ) . Far easier to tell the controller you got smaller wheels ... or better still de-restrict it in the settings and if your controller won't let you a new controller's about 50 quid ... no ?..
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I have run a Speedi for 2 years now. Doesn’t mess with the motor and just adds a few extra mph. It’s a magnet on a gear that revolves slower than the rotor fooling the sensor into thinking you are going slower. It doesn’t make you go as fast as a chip it just helps a bit.
This is brilliant in its simplicity!
Running one of these from Neale now for 3 yrs absolutely love it, bike done just on 5k now not one hiccup, highly recommended
My volspeed 4 works better on my 2022 rail. 27.9mph speed limit. No errors. Helps me pedal before the big gaps.
For me 20mph is enough .
That's great if you happen to only ride on bike specific trails. In the UK, riding an e-bike only on private land with permission isn't subject to statutory speed restrictions. Riding on public cycle paths, pavements or shared paths and trails used by a broad variety of people is a different matter, and that's why the restrictions exist. As a walker, cyclist and motorist I frequently encounter idiots on bikes, derestricted e-bikes and e-scooters behaving irresponsibly and dangerously.
@@another3997 and you typed all that out because you think people don't know that?
@another3997 I encounter more idiots behind the wheel which shows licencing does nothing for safety .
The key is simplicity!
Greetings from Switzerland 😁
It makes emtb's even more awesome!
25kmh is just far too slow. Especially for commuting. 32kmh the US limit is mostly enough for mountainbiking but for commuting that is also too slow. Just a dumb idea to even restrict vehicles that have less than a horsepower of peak power.
In that case, buy a proper motorbike..people who whine about e-bike speed restrictions are really being disingenuous coz what they really want is a motorbike but without the usual regulations (licence, insurance, tax etc).
It's all depends on your aim, I do use ebike as a training machine and it's helping a lot, so If I'm strong enough to push over 25 kmh, why do I need assistance? Surely you are not going beyond 25 on trail steep climbing, and of course I need no support during descents 😂
But if u want overtake cars on the road go for Sur-ron or Talaria bikes 🤝
It's dumb to say to get a motorbike . 20mph isn't asking much and I don't want to maneuver a 280kg piece of metal . So stop saying stupid things .
@@AlekseyKluban It doesn't work like that. Unrestricted is better for training. When you are restricted you end up using less power as you hit the limiter. Where as unrestricted you can just maintain whatever power level you don't have to worry about adjusting power to a changing power from the motor. It just takes too much power to keep the bike above the limiter. No one has 500+ ftp so don't pretend as if you casually always ride above the limiter.
To match you pedaling at 200 watts the motor produces 500 watts, that's going to be less than 40kmh on bosch gen4, you will need to produce something over 1000 wants because you lose so much power to the suspension when the motor isn't preloading it. With a 250 ftp you can ride at 200 watts but you can produce 1000 watts for a few seconds. No one in the world can match what the motor produces. Especially with full suspension. It takes about 300 watts to go over the limiter at 26kmh on flat road.
It makes no sense to have a limiter it just sucks. It's ridiculous to have a restriction for a motor that doesn't even produce a horsepower of peak power. It's just a matter of derestricting the bike. Grown men should be able to think for themselves. Following rules for the sake of it is just naivety.
Here in the UK, restricted e bikes are classed as normal cycles, which means we can use cycle paths, bridle paths and shared spaces/paths. If we increase the top speed of the bikes, we will lose (legal) access to that infrastructure. There is already a process in place to register an e bike as an e motorbike, just do that.
I 100% want to try this out I really think just 25mph would be the ticket since over that im never pedaling downhill but on high speed flatter flow trails you seem right at 18-23mph and its cutting out constantly
@@tahoeebikes Yeah I have derestricted and 25mph is almost enough. You want the assist to go 45kmh as sometimes you want more speed for road section. But rarely pedal at 40kmh on trail. For trail just below 40kmh would be sufficient whatever that is in mph.
Nobody agrees on what the speed limits should be. Whatever the limit is, a lot of people want more. You're looking at it look from a purely selfish view. It's all well and good, until you start mixing that speed with irresponsible, ignorant and untrained people on e-bikes with all types of pedestrians, cyclists and on busy roads. You want a faster mode of powered transport? They exist, so use them instead. Riding fast on trails shared with slow moving walkers, people with kids or dogs might be fun for you, but it can ruin other people's enjoyment. They have as much right to be there as you.
@another3997 so restrict cars to the national speed limit then . Ban dangerous large suv vehicles then . Have a restriction of less than 1.2 tons for a car because from what I see on a daily basis drivers are far more dangerous and do stupid moves . Get ready to see more private escooters and bigger ebikes because we all can see the car biased laws .
Pretty cool I recently bought an orange alpine and that had a bad assbox 3 that just clipped over the sensor and could be removed with no tools
Great bit of kit.
Just to mention that isn’t the way to remove them. You run a risk of snapping the plastic cover. The recommended method is to prise the whole unit off from the bolts as recommended on the NLS website.
I dont have a E_Bike but if i had one, i would get this! But then it needs get checked where the Sensor sits. So many Variants these Days.
What a great and simple idea
Yes I thought so too.
Just slows the hall sensor trigger
'109 quid for that little bit of plastic' LOL
Its quite clever, mechanical reprogramming.
Great video, apparently the speedi has a ratio of 1.5 to 1.0
Thank you, thanks for the comments too
Device doesn’t matter because u can do it simplier way
However this will cook battery faster and motor might detect it because it’s programmed for certain types of speeds and pedal ratios
The Motor wont detect it but it will mess with the torque mapping because the incorrect speed reading no longer ties uo with the cadence
The NLS assemblies are not available to Australia , due to newly updated road laws .
Does any one know how they will be de restricting the new DJI motors? Would this work on the DJI system?
The DJI system is far too new to comment on.
there is a video of someone doing it via the touch screen
I need to know if someone has de restricted the DJI bike, literally only thing stopping me from buying one
Dave, don't act lak we's daft ha'p'orths.. You already said that you'd swapped the rotor and bled the brakes. How do you get the old rotor off if that gadget is in the way?
LOL, I was totally cringing at his act. So lame. Just talk about what you found, is that really so hard and scary?
He is just trying to make the video more entertaining, give the guy some respect.
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comment. It wasent me that did the work on the bike to sort the brake, The device was brought to my attention after the work was done.
@@nvmcrider8475 Respect for good content. Criticism for bad content. Pretty simply formula.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic LOL. Look, clearly people (like me) are noticing it. Doesn't seem necessary to do a good piece on it. So you can take or leave the criticism as you like.
You need to look up the installation instructions to make sure that cover is fitted to correct tolerance otherwise it will ware out or become damaged early...
I need a trick like this for a Orbea Wild to derestrict action 😂
SPEEDi for Orbea Wild is on their website nlscomponents Dot Com
If you have the valve magnet you can reroute it as a rotor magnet in retail shop and then get a chip on it. But I guess you are talking the older model so you have the disc magnet as normal and can buy just a volspeed chip.
Wish I could get one for my Merida
On my Rail it speeds up to 36 km/h.
It’s a simple planetary gear but the new shimano algorithm picks it up
How would that be even possible? Do you mean Shimano picks up cam magnets?
@@Raumancecrank speed/load to wheel speed ratio?
@@crankshoptv The system doesn't know what gear you are, what gradient and how much you weigh so no shouldn't be possible.
They do wear out.
devices are couple years old now...where ya been hiding...
basically a planetary gear system that slows down the magnet rotation, fooling the sensor into thinking you are going slower. about a hundred quid. i think an aussie company did them
This would involve rendering the bike illegal for use on a public highway in the UK … and is actually not such a bright idea! If you were involved in an accident your ebike would be liable for inspection … anyone you injured would have just cause to ‘sue the pants off you’ for damages sustained, whatever speed you were doing. Needless to say you would not be covered by any voluntarily purchased, third party insurance.
20 is reasonable as you can pedal at that speed on ebikes, maybe a bit more but then it becomes a bit manic!
These have been around for years. Its a simple epicyclic gear aka a reduction gearset.
These will mess up the motors mapping though since the manipulated wheel speed sensor + cadence sensor are no longer working as programmed
Nobodies invented anything special here you’ll find these all over the place if you start taking motors and gearboxes apart
Cheap plastic doomed to wear prematurely
Why are you pretending like you don't know what's inside of it or how it comes off, which you just got done telling us you put a new rotor on the bike?
100s of chipped e-bikes and e-scooters seized in Nottingham. Other cities likely to follow. No warnings given - bikes seized and ask questions later. How much do you want to lose your fancy e - mountain bike?? Or if they want to apply the law fully, you can also get 6 points on your licence.
Rubbish
@@simony2801 you will get points on your license.
Yey, that is illegal in several countries. Yes, police will test your bike on a testpad
@Raumance And what peeps like you do is whine about a problem that doesn't exist.
Want more speed? There are vehicles for that and they've existed for decades; mopeds and motorbikes!
Oh, ya wanna engage in virtue-signalling? Well cool, no probs! Get an electric moped or motorbike and be smug riding a 'zero emissions' vehicle.
But "no no no, I wanna ride trails!" I hear you say. No problemo! There are proper motorbikes for that called trail bikes.
Whining about speed limits on eBikes is just a disingenuous complaint masking the real agenda: wanting a motorbike or moped performance whilst circumventing the usual regulations that mopeds and motorbikes attract.
We "whine" about it because it is a dumb restriction. A lot of the time I can pedal faster than that, and the e-bike slows me down. If 25 km/h is "safer" for everyone, then we probably need to make those 1+ tonne lumps of metal on the same roads (cars) also be speed restricted to 25 km/h. Any valid reason why not? They take longer to stop than a bike, they cause more damage in a collision than a bike. Thanks for giving me a new thing to pester my local elected member about.
throw that garbage bro, ebikes sux... cheers
Wrong . if you can't afford one just say so .
Aww did you just learn to type ?
Dont buy one then.
@@SKBKER i already have two... the worst thing ever made, you will back soon on normal bike 🙂 enjoy
@meandonlymeandher5747 maybe yours are .
Are you sure it's not a cadence sensor ? It doesn't seem effective as a de-restrictor cos it's just making the speedometer read slow ( surely ) . Far easier to tell the controller you got smaller wheels ... or better still de-restrict it in the settings and if your controller won't let you a new controller's about 50 quid ... no ?..
@@philiphales9993 You can't do that on bosch.