Why do we Love the Nova?

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  • @MechanicalFrog
    @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +23

    5 extra heatsinks on the Nova-I, not 15... Don't know where that came from.

  • @BazztheBazz
    @BazztheBazz Місяць тому +108

    The Nova Prime might be a one-trick pony, but it's one hell of a trick.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +18

      Very true.

    • @MrMyu
      @MrMyu Місяць тому +2

      If Ghost Rider drove a 'mech.

    • @cameronstrathdee1772
      @cameronstrathdee1772 Місяць тому +18

      Nova Prime is a lovely demonstration of the fact that, while Medium Lasers are the most tonnage-efficient damage source in the game, you cannot simply fill all available weapon tonnage with Medium Lasers.

    • @135forte
      @135forte Місяць тому +11

      ​@cameronstrathdee1772 That's why it has jump jets.

    • @jefff6007
      @jefff6007 Місяць тому +7

      @@cameronstrathdee1772 you mean CAN simply load all weapon tonnage with medium lasers

  • @sombrastewart
    @sombrastewart Місяць тому +94

    Please give Mini-Frog an internet high five on my behalf. He did a really good job!

  • @nuclearrylaw7616
    @nuclearrylaw7616 Місяць тому +66

    Aw mini frog cameo 😂 also love the idea of a star of Nova-Hs causing chaos with all those heavies 😂

  • @MrMyu
    @MrMyu Місяць тому +54

    Licking the raw cookie dough from the beater is one thing, but you *really* don't need to leave the beater running while you do it.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +14

      Where is your sense of adventure?

    • @thedocklighter
      @thedocklighter Місяць тому +5

      More fun than bobbing for apples in a toilet-
      _NO!! I DON'T CARE IF YOU STERILIZED IT AND THOUGHT IT'D BE FUNNY AND A HOOT FOR THE PARTY!!!_
      _...Don't make me revoke your frat card._

    • @MrMyu
      @MrMyu Місяць тому +3

      @@MechanicalFrog burned away in the flames

  • @SHDW-nf2ki
    @SHDW-nf2ki Місяць тому +30

    As a Nova Prime main in MWO the alpha strike button talks to me like the Green Goblin mask yelling at Norman telling him “we have a new world to conquer.”

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому

      For a minute my wires got crossed and I thought you meant the prime variant of the Nova Warframe.

  • @BryansVideoDump
    @BryansVideoDump Місяць тому +16

    The Nova was actually the first mech I piloted in MWO. I unleashed the full Alpha Strike of Lasers without knowing about heat management. I overheated, obviously, and a whole lance of enemy mechs sent me to join Kerensky.
    On another note, Mini Frog is a lucky kid, having such a cool dad. Good reading too, you can tell he gave his best. Keep being awesome, you two.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +4

      I don't know about cool but, I do what I can. :D

    • @RiverWilliamson
      @RiverWilliamson 29 днів тому

      The Nova was my main from MechWarrior 2. You never forget your first love

  • @KerenskyTheRed
    @KerenskyTheRed Місяць тому +10

    I fell in love with the Nova as a kid playing Mechwarrior 2. Turns out lots of medium lasers makes for good firepower especially with a pinpoint alpha strike. I insisted on playing every mission with it and even won one of my trials accidentally when I ran around the corner to see a mad dog. I panicked and tried to jump jet over it. Instead, my right foot caught the cockpit just right and I took out the pristine mech without firing a single shot. That sort of event has a way of cementing loyalty for a design.

  • @ThelemicPotter
    @ThelemicPotter Місяць тому +25

    17:30 great work MiniFrog! Is that your first professional reading? Keep it up, public speaking is an important skill and transferable to so many arenas. Hopefully we'll hear from you more often.

  • @edwardmorrissette5817
    @edwardmorrissette5817 Місяць тому +32

    I love overheating with no checks for ammo explosions. That's why

  • @milankostic2571
    @milankostic2571 Місяць тому +11

    Everyone: It's better to burn out than to fade away!
    Me: YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO ALTERNATE BETWEEN ARMS, YOU NUMBNUTS!!!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +6

      "Just don't fire them all at once!" What? I can't hear you over the awesomeness of this light show.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому +3

      Use your arm groupings like a boxer is the advice I was told regarding the Nova.

    • @strcmdrbookwyrm
      @strcmdrbookwyrm Місяць тому +3

      Well, it's still a good knockout punch. And if you've got a good enough pilot skill, it might be worth the shutdown risk in a pinch.
      In all seriousness, I've realized that the Nova was never meant to work alone (despite what clan doctrine would have you believe). If you have support, riding the heat curve suddenly is a lot less concerning.

    • @TheInsomniaddict
      @TheInsomniaddict 26 днів тому +3

      @@strcmdrbookwyrm Nova was built with combined arms in mind. That could be why it's somewhat less Clan-like than other mechs.

  • @zarancorde
    @zarancorde Місяць тому +20

    The Nova: "You get a laser! And you get a laser! And you get a laser! Lasers for everybody!"
    To borrow from Tex... it makes you wonder if Discount Dan opened a satellite site near Strana Mechty, and HH couldn't resist that kind of bargain on "surplus" lasers...

  • @workshoptelescope
    @workshoptelescope Місяць тому +15

    Absolutely flawless musical introduction for the Clan’s Most Violent Convection Oven.

    • @Kasperl88
      @Kasperl88 Місяць тому

      Imma save that quote.

    • @Sierra026
      @Sierra026 Місяць тому

      Bake until Mechwarrior is at the desired level of black and crispy!

  • @infernodelta70
    @infernodelta70 Місяць тому +19

    Why do I like the Nova? Cause it's fun ball of lights I can blind my enemies with. And I'm not even aiming at them!

  • @kaisiegfried425
    @kaisiegfried425 Місяць тому +7

    OMG mini Frog has a cameo cool

  • @andrewryan1946
    @andrewryan1946 Місяць тому +40

    The Clans uncovered an ancient tome in their Star League Archives, from pre-Spaceflight Terra. It possessed within, the phrase: ‘Let him cook’.
    They took this as an omen from Kerensky himself. And the Nova was their answer.

    • @KeystoneCarcajou
      @KeystoneCarcajou Місяць тому +3

      Hellbringer and Adder must have been spawned from this philosophy as well.

  • @louiskemner3216
    @louiskemner3216 Місяць тому +32

    The Nova prime feels like one of those “heck, why not go all in” designs, and that makes it flawed but highly memorable

    • @MichaelJCaboose013
      @MichaelJCaboose013 Місяць тому +7

      Reminds me a lot of the IS Hunchback laser disco config

    • @hermes7587
      @hermes7587 Місяць тому +1

      @@MichaelJCaboose013 The Hunchback 4P and 5P carry enough heat sinks to make reasonable use of their 8 medium lasers.
      They do not have the "ability" to shut themselves down with a single volley.

    • @MichaelJCaboose013
      @MichaelJCaboose013 Місяць тому

      @hermes7587 true. I just get that "YOLO, alpha strike" vibe with the Hunchy, and the Nova is just that turned to 11.

  • @zorhamorningstar3862
    @zorhamorningstar3862 Місяць тому +6

    The Nova and Supernova are some of the most unique mech designs in BT lore.

  • @derptomistic
    @derptomistic Місяць тому +5

    "You see random Comstar pilot! With one press of a button I can turn my cockpit into an industrial grade oven!"
    - Nova pilot probably, 3050, colorized

  • @starsiegeplayer
    @starsiegeplayer Місяць тому +2

    My strongest memory of the Nova is the first mission you get it in Mechwarrior 2. I came up on the first target, an isolated mech. From the table top game, I knew you could fire all lasers, and instantly shut down. Since the target was isolated, I decided to kill it with an alpha strike, since I could recover from the shutdown afterwards. I'll never forget triggering that alpha strike and instantaneously exploding from the heat.

  • @MightyBolamite
    @MightyBolamite Місяць тому +3

    Opening with a hard drum beat and electric guitar? That's what Battletech is about! More of this please.

  • @Andrewlik
    @Andrewlik Місяць тому +6

    There was a Solaris 1v1 duel tournament run at a local game store near me. It was unique in that there was no BV limit - "Heavy mechs or below, up to 3061, no experimental. Go nuts!"
    I was scared that the Timberwolf TC or Bounty Hunter, almost 3k BV monsters that alot of people have models of, was going to be "the" meta.
    I warned the TO about that, he said it'd be fine.
    I chose not to be "that" guy, and instead of the top 3 highest BV mechs in the format I chose like #8. The Nova Prime, 2400 ish BV. I had my game plan written out - heat neutral at 7 lasers, one less if I jump, can go up to 9 without risking shutdown checks if I got a space to jump to and cool next turn.
    I was the only dude who brought clan tech. The next highest BV unit was the Marauder Bounty Hunter, at 2050 BV. Lost against it first round, then had hard fought battles in the losers bracket to meet him again at the end of the tourney, otherwise undefeated. Dramatic final boss fight
    I won fair and square, but I still feel dirty XD

    • @strcmdrbookwyrm
      @strcmdrbookwyrm Місяць тому +2

      That was an amazing fight, so don't feel dirty. In fact, I think that only made the victory at the end better. You basically lost and went through a whole training arc to reclaim your honor. XD

  • @randomnetsurfer
    @randomnetsurfer Місяць тому +10

    Also: I wanted to comment that I've taken the "make the world a slightly better place" motto, and applied it to work... so: I work at Walmart. Yes, I know, but it's a job, okay? I support my team as best I can, distributing smiles and trying to make their jobs just a ... well, just a slight bit better. So thank you, MechFrog, for your influence and support.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +3

      So glad to hear it. We cannot make people be better but we can model the behavior we want to see in others.

    • @randomnetsurfer
      @randomnetsurfer Місяць тому +2

      @@MechanicalFrog Exactly my view. Thanks MF. I feel that minifrog is in good hands

    • @strcmdrbookwyrm
      @strcmdrbookwyrm Місяць тому +2

      Hey, my wife works at a Walmart. So there's no shame in my eyes. Just keep providing good service, do a good job, and I think you'll be doing your part well. (^^)b

  • @aaronbosen6743
    @aaronbosen6743 Місяць тому +2

    For me what's really interesting about the Nova is it's lore and how it's changed over the 40 odd years of the battletech setting's existence. It was originally basically built as a dedicated infantry support mech (A much needed role given the scarcity of tracked, wheeled, and hover vehicles for the clans that often take on that role in inner sphere or other periphiary forces in the setting) before some either genius or moron (which it qualifies as is probably going to be debated by the old battletech fans forever) got the idea midway through development "hey what if we could use it to rapidly transport infantry?"
    Part of the genius of this is that this meant the original version of the Nova ended up being sort of a transitional step between conventional battlemechs and later omnimechs, in many ways benefitting from the inherent advantages of both designs such as the conventional battlemech's relative ease of finding parts for repairs and usually simpler geometry that makes repairs faster or the omnimech's ease of swapping out weapons and specialty equipment. The reason why most variants of it have an all small or medium laser armanent is specifically because these weapons are relatively short, compact, and easily changed out of pods but still offer a decent amount of damage right in the primary intended role of the original design; close support for clan infantry. Some variants of the Nova literally had fixed machine gun mounts in the side torsos as a primary infantry support weapon, even.
    This was important, because the Nova went through a variety of designs in it's intended secondary role as an infantry carrier, before the creation of clan elemental suits pretty much turned that role into a dedicated power armored infantry carrier/ medium to close range laserboat. At one point it literally had infantry transport pods underslung on the arms and back, which is one reason why in the original art the arms and legs are so low to the ground, so the original version of the Nova could essentially bend forward or backward slightly, and deploy infantry from ramps that deployed from the armored transport pods. These transport pods also carried heatsinks for the mech itself and ammunition resupply specifically for the infantry that were supposed to be transported.
    The mech was basically in universe a victim of the success of it's secondary capabilities, and other technological advances that substantially changed it's mission, role, and even overall design to the point it bore little resemblance to it's original self.

  • @christophermzdenek
    @christophermzdenek Місяць тому +3

    I ran one at a home table game more than once. After the first time, I dropped 3 of the ERML and dropped in 2 more heatsinks. With the addition of a targeting computer, I became a bane of anything I could get the side of or behind. Only time I lost equal weight was against a hunchback that rolled boxcars on the big AC/20 at it's max range. I couldn't even complain. He needed a 12 and got it twice. Karma can be like that sometimes.

  • @rainetheserotoninslurper
    @rainetheserotoninslurper Місяць тому +2

    There's nothing quite like seeing a mech for the first time, and then dying inside as you watch half your mech disappear in one hit-

  • @maxanderson2180
    @maxanderson2180 Місяць тому +9

    The Nova prime is just classic, good movement, armor, and may blake help you if it decides to go all in! Great video, and well done to mini frog, he did great!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      It's a solid one. MiniFrog: Thank you!

  • @jonbezeau3124
    @jonbezeau3124 Місяць тому +2

    Favourite Clan omni. Everyone talks about the Prime's alpha strike, but firing just the lasers on one arm is still more damage than most mechs and easily managed by the heatsinks. Moreover, if and when you lose one arm you're still fighting at 100% sustainable damage output.
    A force of Prime, A, and S Novas makes for a scary shell game for the opponent.

  • @Miradarm
    @Miradarm Місяць тому +3

    My favorite config was a variation of the prime with 4 less lasers for 2 more heat sinks and a TC, Very well done Mini-frog in narration.

  • @ryanastheimer1521
    @ryanastheimer1521 Місяць тому +3

    The Nova C reads to me as the "Trial" configuration. Its time for your Trial of Position or Bloodname and your a Nova pilot, this is for you.

  • @Mr._Anderpson
    @Mr._Anderpson Місяць тому +2

    I fell in love with the Nova back in the 90s with Mechwarrior 2. That low & wide profile was almost as good as extra armor, since you could evade plenty of shots. In the old PC games when MFBs & refits were a fantasy, the laser loadout was dependable.

  • @vlad3060
    @vlad3060 Місяць тому +5

    Thumbs up for the video and an extra 🌟for Mini Frog's very well done voice over.

  • @chrissegee
    @chrissegee Місяць тому +3

    Nova designer- how many medium lasers ?
    Clan Warrior case- all of them

  • @thomascarpenter8177
    @thomascarpenter8177 Місяць тому +7

    Ah, the original "taste the rainbow" "discoball of death"

    • @keebbles
      @keebbles Місяць тому

      Imagine it using 4 Disco Lasers or 4 med rotary chem lasers...
      Party and heats up targets too.😊

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому

      @@keebbles Hang on.... ROTARY chemcal lasers? Is that an actual thing? Crud, maybe I can't fully write off the chems.

    • @keebbles
      @keebbles Місяць тому +1

      @bthsr7113 found in game on periphery. Disabled a Party truck and got the Disco lasers.
      Next mission two nasty vtols with rotary chem lasers.
      Bought the large and small rotary chem lasers from the faction store.
      Was periphery allied temp with Tortuga.

  • @Geeko170
    @Geeko170 Місяць тому +6

    Nothing is more glorious than a Nova Prime Alpha Strike! Why is it called a Nova? Cause it glows brighter than the sun when it Alpha Strikes.
    I love this thing. I have been on the receiving end more than not, but it’s always fun to see it.

  • @ambientlight3876
    @ambientlight3876 Місяць тому +1

    That beast summarizes the Clan's early combat style: Unload a massive Alpha Strike, hopefully kill the target, then spend the next few turns cooling down and restarting the 'mech.. The Prime config. can flatten nearly any target in one shot.

  • @TTex11
    @TTex11 Місяць тому +1

    The thing about the Nova that always got me was that design with the chicken walker legs and the low torso and how there is no way that those joints wouldn't keep crashing into the arms/body when it would run and gun in a firefight. Granted it's not the only mech with this kind of weird design situation of low hanging limbs that would interfere with the legs (looking at you, Timberwolf) but the Nova was kind of on the extreme edge of this.

  • @pa_gaming_dad2810
    @pa_gaming_dad2810 Місяць тому +1

    Mini-Frog did a great job!
    Having had surgery for a torn retina, I am not going anywhere without that respirator!

  • @jamesbeard5513
    @jamesbeard5513 Місяць тому +2

    Nova Prime and H are dangerous, but the A and E have to be the best all around variants that can handle many dangerous roles.
    The U Variant was obviously designed to repel boarders on WarShips, JumpShips, and Space Stations.

  • @0331dragon
    @0331dragon Місяць тому +2

    No plasma? Mini-Frog, wink twice if you need to be rescued!

  • @lucindalockhart
    @lucindalockhart Місяць тому +2

    Was exposed to the nova in MW2, and was a bit of a shock. Playing IS all my life I was happy to see the clans were also terrible at heat management.

  • @marksando3082
    @marksando3082 Місяць тому +2

    The Nova prime looked at a HPK-4P and said, "hold my beer.."

  • @WolfHreda
    @WolfHreda Місяць тому +1

    The Nova Prime: The only Clan omnimech with the dubious honor of being outperformed by its Inner Sphere counterpart, the Black Hawk-KU, whose shorter range and less damaging lasers it can fire much more frequently due to their lower heat burden.
    Let's go, MiniFrog! Great job!

    • @strcmdrbookwyrm
      @strcmdrbookwyrm Місяць тому +1

      Though to be fair, the PRIME would be just as scary if you swapped the ER Mediums with Inner Sphere standard versions. It can handle the heat of an alpha strike without penalty if it doesn't move.

  • @Wubbeyman
    @Wubbeyman Місяць тому

    The Nova S quickly became one of my favorite clan mechs when I played an Escalation league this last spring. 6 medium pulses would rip apart most light and medium mechs while still remaining a threat to anything larger than itself. The jump jets worked to keep the mech out of striking distance of anything too big for it to safely engage.

  • @jamessmith5666
    @jamessmith5666 Місяць тому +2

    In the classic rules, Target Interlock Circuit rules, ie group fire, you roll separately for each weapon. I’d house rule it, so if the group fire weapon is a direct fire, same class and in the same location, then it hits the one location like in the Mechwarrior games. Yes it means a Nova group firing 6 er-med lasers will hit one location, because that’s what it’s designed to do.

  • @mickbrown7793
    @mickbrown7793 Місяць тому +1

    I would be remiss in not mentioning Diamond Shark Ace Enders, who used a Nova-A to win the rank of Star Captain, taking it with him to compete for his bloodname. When the pulse laser was damaged in the grand melee and the Burrocks were intransigent in letting him replace it, he and his tech acquired two additional DHS instead, a modification that served him well until his superiors insisted he piloted something heavier, since he was now assigned to an Assault Cluster. His choice of a Stormcrow was probably not what they had in mind.

  • @Kepora1
    @Kepora1 Місяць тому +2

    I don't play MWO too often these days, but my twin LPL Nova can be a nasty little bugger. I LOVE the Blackhawk KU, too.

  • @Kaiju-Driver
    @Kaiju-Driver Місяць тому +1

    Mini frog narrator was a nice twist. MF config looks fun. Im gonna have my group get frog raided. I may even paint them one day. Gonna be fun.

  • @malusignatius
    @malusignatius Місяць тому +3

    The Nova Prime is a bit like the Hunchback. Regardless of if you like it or not, you've got to pay attention to it and the threat it poses. Yes, an alpha strike from one might cripple the Nova for a turn, if it's done at the right time and at the right target, it can change the course of a battle.

  • @tehpw7574
    @tehpw7574 Місяць тому +2

    12:03 16 tons of Pod Space and the C config. You have to ask whomever was designing the original 16 back in 1989-1990, in why they put a SPL and SRM4 as 'backup weapons' but with those 16 tons, the Nova could mirror the Kit Fox's (and visa versa) more successful configurations, in this case, the Kit Fox A.

  • @joshuaturnquist5538
    @joshuaturnquist5538 Місяць тому +1

    As I pointed out to my friend, technically the original Nova is a Crab descendant. Crab -> King Crab based off Crab -> Supernova based off King -> Nova based off Supernova. Both the Crab and Nova Prime are the same weight and speed, with most of their firepower focused in their grabby hands.
    Clantech just means you replace 2 large lasers with an absurd amount of medium lasers.

  • @smbarta9108
    @smbarta9108 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for doing my ride justice Frog! I cannot express how floored I was when I found my canon character entry inside ilclan rec guide volume 14. The first mech I ever piloted when I was first exposed to MechWarrior 2 way back when I was in 8th grade, and its held a place in my heart and TOE ever since. I love the Prime and the A configs, and also have fun with my custom: an ATM 9, and an ER PPC with capacitor.

  • @fedupN
    @fedupN Місяць тому

    I forget this thing all the time for flashier mechs and then remember my unbridled love for the thing.
    Its such a good workhorse, both in the MW2 computer game and tabletop+cardgame.
    Also! Good job, mini-frog!

  • @Richy0326
    @Richy0326 26 днів тому +1

    One of my favourite medium mechs, and I love medium mechs, so that's high praise coming from me! The Prime, Config A, and Config S are the best IMO. As for my own config, a small tweak of the prime is my go-to rebuild:
    - Remove 4 lasers, leaving it with 8 ER Medium Lasers in total,
    - Add a targeting computer
    - add 2 additional heatsinks, bringing the total to 20
    It's heat neutral when alpha striking at a standstill (or on the move with the advanced ruleset), and the targeting computer helps put the two thirds of the original's firepower to more efficient use. A good refit for longer duration missions where stamina is more of an issue.

  • @spencerjones841
    @spencerjones841 Місяць тому +7

    Here me out pull 4 heatsinks the ER mediums and exploit the combat computer quirk and rock 8 medium pulse lasers to make most mechs regret facing it

  • @TheStrayHALOMAN
    @TheStrayHALOMAN Місяць тому +1

    I love this mech, I replace all the weapons with standard IS medium lasers just to cut down on heatsinks for a larger engine or jumpjets.
    This also means replacement lasers are easier to get.

  • @corvus8000
    @corvus8000 Місяць тому +1

    My favorite config for the Nova was a modification of the A, the two ER PPCs + two ER medium lasers + 2 extra heat sinks (though sometimes I'd swap one of the extra heat sinks for a pair of ER small lasers if there was a higher chance of short range wrasslin').

  • @droolcup_commando8487
    @droolcup_commando8487 Місяць тому +1

    the Nova was my baby in MWO and i always mod it into other BT games like MW5/HBS BT cause its gotta be there with me piloting it.

  • @tzuky1861
    @tzuky1861 Місяць тому +1

    My favourite ride from Mechwarrior 2. Used it for all of my trials of position save the last ❤

  • @todddelevan9488
    @todddelevan9488 Місяць тому +1

    "Licking the cookie dough from the beater..." What you neglected to say "was while the beater was running..."

  • @strcmdrbookwyrm
    @strcmdrbookwyrm Місяць тому +1

    Mini Frog's first appearance! Make sure that he did a good job, and that I hope to hear more from him in the future.
    I think the Nova is interesting because it's actually a good base for an omni-mech. It has decent mobility, armor, and pod space, so it can fit almost any role. It just tends to go all in on whatever roll it chooses. I also learned that it's a good transport for battle armor, which isn't something I'd thought about.
    I think my favorite non-prime configuration is the E configuration. It can use it's ATM 12 well, thanks to all that ammo, still has a respectable punch if it runs out of ammo, and is still a good option to carry and work with battle armor. The only real fault of the E config is that it's slightly oversinked, but to me it's an acceptable amount of oversinking.
    One thing I'm wondering is why no one has tried swapping the ER Medium Lasers for a Inner Sphere Standard Lasers? I did the math, the heat sinks could handle an alpha strike. ...as long as you stood still. I think it's what the T config was going for, but they didn't want to touch "primitive inner sphere lasers."

  • @jmoney6102
    @jmoney6102 Місяць тому +1

    Mini frog stole the show for me! He did an awesome job and i can only hope I can have a son to share my battletech with once i become a father as well

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому

      A noble goal. Someone has to play Battletech once we're all gone.

  • @ZombifiedWatermelon
    @ZombifiedWatermelon 3 дні тому

    I miss the old Nova with the legs and arms mounted along a single axis. It was a unique design and I loved playing it in Mechwarrior II. Torso twist was very limited but the game let you mount six jump jets (2 in each leg and 2 in the center torso) that practically turned you into a 50 ton VTOL circling your enemies a few meters off the ground and spitting a hail of medium laser fire.

  • @Vulpine407
    @Vulpine407 Місяць тому +1

    Mini-Mechanical Frog is great! May I suggest that, when you are featuring contesting points-of-view on a mech variant, that each of you vocalize a side.

  • @Qardo
    @Qardo 10 днів тому +1

    6:49 I feel called out. *holding a bowl of raw cookie dough*

  • @TheInsomniaddict
    @TheInsomniaddict 26 днів тому +1

    My MWO Nova for a while was a 12xERSL brawler. Saved tonnage went towards both DHS and a large TC. With the TC and quirks I could get around standard medium laser range, which was enough as long as you timed your strikes. If I made it to late game it would clean up most fights.

  • @boneshaman8912
    @boneshaman8912 Місяць тому +1

    I lost a King Crab to a Nova A with 2 ERPPCs straight to the head. It was a glorious death.

  • @Vulpine407
    @Vulpine407 Місяць тому +2

    Mechanical Frog: "The Nova demonstrates that Clan Hell's Horses isn't entirely a nonsense clan..."
    Clan Hell's Horses: "Thank y... wait, what?!"
    Clan Diamond Shark: "Told you they'd say that. Pay up!"
    Clan Smoke Jaguar: "Fine. Here. And watch your language, you degenerate."

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +2

      Clearly in the pocket of BIG DIAMOND SHARK

  • @androssthered1157
    @androssthered1157 Місяць тому +1

    That intro went hard today Frog!! Great video as usual 👌

  • @ChaosTicket
    @ChaosTicket Місяць тому +1

    The Nova is a solid and versatile medium mech that can show off how advanced clan weapons are.
    The Clan Prime has 12 clan-grade Extended Range Medium Lasers. Even the Star League in its height couldnt make ER Medium Lasers.
    The Nova A has 2 clan-grade Extended Range Particle Projection Cannons. Thats as much firepower as what an 80ton Awesome assault mech had, but additionally has more maximum gun range.
    The Nova U is designed for space combat.
    Unfortunately it doesnt seem to have a canon model that is loaded with 40+ missiles, either short or long range ones. The Nova Missile Boat would have been cool.
    Its quirk was that the original Nova miniatures didnt have waists and instead had their legs in the shoulder area. The arms were on the sides of the legs giving the whole thing a Mr Potato Head look.

  • @memph1ston
    @memph1ston Місяць тому +3

    Minifrog! Good cameo :)

  • @darylmolinejr.6166
    @darylmolinejr.6166 Місяць тому +1

    Was that Little Frog!? Love it.

  • @duanewong1527
    @duanewong1527 Місяць тому +1

    Ah yes, my first encounter with this mech was in mechwarrior 2 mercenaries, the original laser welding mech

  • @michaelkimberling7307
    @michaelkimberling7307 26 днів тому +1

    24:32 that’s the problem I have with streak missiles. the excess ammo tends to explode in my experience.

  • @GhostBearCommander
    @GhostBearCommander 27 днів тому +1

    I call mine “Little Hot Box.”

  • @randomnetsurfer
    @randomnetsurfer Місяць тому +4

    I'll say it. I'm not a fan of inaccurate weapons, heavy lasers included. Targeting computers plus pulse lasers for the forever win ;-)
    MiniFrog voiceover is adorable!!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому

      I don't really like lasers that explode.

    • @randomnetsurfer
      @randomnetsurfer Місяць тому

      @@MechanicalFrog No, neither do I. There's enough trouble with internal shots without introducing MORE. You might say it's a ... kerfuffle! :D

  • @Slightlylyons1
    @Slightlylyons1 Місяць тому +1

    As for my custom config back in my Mechwarrior 3 days I use an imitation of the Black Hawk KU prime to great effect. you could walk the fire onto the target with the pulse lasers and then fire the ER's when your on target.

  • @michaellewis1545
    @michaellewis1545 Місяць тому +3

    As a fan of combine arms any mech design with that in mind is a plus in my book.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому +1

      There's benefit in going all arms on the omnis. Namely you don't have to hold fire while Elementals cling to your torso sections.

  • @treybaker5440
    @treybaker5440 Місяць тому +1

    YES! My number one favorite mech!
    I still love the Prime config. You can't improve upon perfection ;)

  • @tomarmadiyer2698
    @tomarmadiyer2698 Місяць тому +1

    I approve the intro music.
    Personally, Bill McClintock "Burn" fits very well too

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      We needed something rockin for the light show.

    • @tomarmadiyer2698
      @tomarmadiyer2698 Місяць тому +1

      Mine was just a rental so I had to have the funk groove

  • @uroghai3439
    @uroghai3439 Місяць тому +1

    Eee, mini-Frog! Kudos to the both of you!

  • @jasonscarborough94
    @jasonscarborough94 Місяць тому +1

    I've loved the Nova C since I was in Middle School, but yeah, really need to just pop out those side torso heat-sinks and add more Gauss or SRM ammo

  • @andrewbuhagiar2663
    @andrewbuhagiar2663 Місяць тому

    Completely agree with you about the TSEMP cannon. It's the one piece of tech my group doesn't allow

  • @mikegould6590
    @mikegould6590 Місяць тому

    First off, thank you for talking about the Nova. I have run this Mech since the release of Mechwarrior 2, and haven't looked back. On the tabletop, I have been defeated a total of ONCE while operating it, and I have fought A LOT with it.
    The Prime is generally my go-to, and it has eliminated targets much larger than itself. Though, I am one of those crazies who like the H variant and, of course, the solid S variant. In all cases, it is always accompanied by Battle Armor, as this was the units intended purpose.
    More often than not, the Nova is my largest unit in a force, being accompanied by faster Lights, tanks, and battle armor. It is only recently that the Loki II (Prime) has been added to my rotation, becoming the largest Mech in my forces - but with a Nova (Prime) alongside it.
    Lastly, I would like to thank you for your...somewhat...nod to Clan Hells Horses. The fiction likes to portray us as the keystone cops of the Battletech universe, but things change when anyone ACTUALLY faces us on the battlefield. I have ben the target of a lot of Ghost Bear, Inner Sphere, and Jade Falcon smack talk...until someone wants to roll dice. Then things get reeeaaally quiet.
    Thanks for all you do.
    And may I say, hearing Mechanical Tadpole read a section filled me with a little pride. Always a good sign to see another generation carry on the tradition.

    • @strcmdrbookwyrm
      @strcmdrbookwyrm Місяць тому

      Though my preferred clan is the Ghost Bears, I don't think Hell's Horses gets enough credit. Despite the lore sneering down at them, they've managed to persist relatively unchanged throughout the years, at least when compared to the other clans. They also have some nasty mechs on their side, and even manage to make quad mechs look scary. I personally have a soft spot for the Balius, as it's blatantly horse features have gotten her interesting in playing. (Though I do think the Doom Courser is a better mech overall, and one of the best quads out there).
      I think the Nova H is a bit over the top, I think if you mashed the H and S configs together you could get something very terrifying. I once tried the Heavy over Pulse combo on one of the Incubus variants, and I've loved the combo ever since. Might be something worth trying on the Nova.

  • @ChuJungyin
    @ChuJungyin 19 днів тому

    In one of my twice per month BT games we had a round robin tournament of 1v1 games. Everyone had a 50 ton mech. No BV limit (bad idea by organizer).
    My Nova A's PPC landed a crit on my opponent's torso ammo bin on turn 1. His Mech didnt have CASE. Shortest match I had all year.

  • @malusignatius
    @malusignatius Місяць тому +1

    Congrats to Mini-Frog for their first voice acting role!

  • @JohnDoe-oh7gf
    @JohnDoe-oh7gf Місяць тому

    The first clan mech I piloted in MWO. Always looked down by owners of a MadCat but this baby has the great looks and some firepower behind it. Plus that mobility with good speed and jump jets. Good thing clans arent around in the campaing for another year cause I would have to paint a star of these buggers. Cheers nice vid. If Minifrog recorded that in one take then hes got some future in this industry xD

  • @truckingjoe7715
    @truckingjoe7715 Місяць тому

    The trick to the Nova is to set a pair of medium lasers to different triggers. This allows you to pretty much nonstop fire

  • @jalakor
    @jalakor Місяць тому +2

    I recently went through and made “fixed” versions of the Nova’s standard variants (aimed at keeping their intended roles and similar weaponry loadouts) that would seek to make them a bit more balanced and effective. My Nova builds are down below, note that I followed the rules with not changing the armor, structure, engine, or any fixed equipment:
    *Nova Prime - FIXED*
    22 Double Heat Sinks
    ER Medium Laser x6 (LA/RA)
    ER Medium Laser x2 (LT/RT)
    *Nova A - FIXED*
    15 DHS
    Large Pulse Laser x2 (LA/RA)
    Small Pulse Laser (CT)
    Medium Pulse Laser (HD)
    *Nova B - FIXED*
    14 DHS
    ER PPC (LA)
    Ultra AC/5 (RA)
    - 1 ton of ammo (20 shots, RA)
    Medium Pulse Laser (HD)
    *Nova C - FIXED*
    14 DHS
    LB10-X AC (LA)
    - 1 ton regular, 1 ton cluster ammo (20 shots total, LA)
    SRM6 (RA)
    - 1 ton of ammo (RA)
    Flamer (CT)
    ER Medium Laser (HD)
    *Nova D - FIXED*
    15 DHS
    ER PPC (LA)
    LRM15 (RA)
    - Artemis IV FCS (RA)
    - 2 tons of Artemis-capable ammo (RT)
    ER Medium Laser x2 (LT/RT)
    Flamer (HD)
    *Nova S - FIXED*
    15 DHS
    Medium Pulse Laser x6 (LA/RA)
    Flamer x2 (LT/RT)
    ECM Suite (CT)
    Active Probe (HD)
    This kinda thing is, of course, likely to not really vibe with some people, but feedback would be appreciated as far as the design goes. My personal favorite is the A-variant redesign.

    • @strcmdrbookwyrm
      @strcmdrbookwyrm Місяць тому +1

      These seem alright, though they aren't quite as good battle armor carriers thanks to all the side torso weapons. Still, if I were given a Nova I'd definitely be rocking something similar to your A config. Honestly, I'm surprised that the restraint on Pulse Lasers though. For a mech that loves boating energy weapons, the only Nova to boat Pulse lasers is the S.
      Also, what would your take on the E, H, and L configs be? I don't know what I'd do for the L, but for the H, if I'm trying to keep the same role, I'd pull 3 Heavy Mediums from each arm and 2 of the Double Heat Sinks to add two Medium Pulse Lasers to each arm. While it looses a chunk of firepower, it gains some accuracy and can jump and alpha without any penalties. I'd say it's more effective without going overboard.

    • @jalakor
      @jalakor Місяць тому

      @@strcmdrbookwyrm while a few of them wouldn’t be as good for BA carriers, they still all retain the majority of their firepower in their arms, but now if they were to lose an arm, it wouldn’t be exactly half their firepower. Also, CT and HD weapons are actually not blocked by Elementals riding the mech, only LT/RT ones, so that’s gonna help several of these.
      As far as the E, H, and L, I’ve not messed with those, largely due to my unfamiliarity with that spot in the timeline (I have always avoided that area cuz of the WoB “event” and such, I just did not like the direction that was taken with the story and some of the weapons got kinda complex), but I can give those a shot, lemme get back to you on that.
      Edit: also, on the Pulse Lasers, while I am absolutely a fan of Clan tech Pulse Lasers, many of the standard variants didn’t really use them, and I was trying not to limit their range too much in order to prevent them from being too much of a knife-fighter. The Nova isn’t a pushover on armor, but it’s still only a 50-tonner. The engagement range advantage plus a good pilot would help mitigate the majority lacking Pulse Lasers. On top of those reasons, it was about tonnage and having a tad more firepower. Pulse Lasers are most effective on Heavies in my opinion, the pod space just allows them to shine the best, though platforms like the Stormcrow are fairly viable for boating some Mediums.

    • @jalakor
      @jalakor Місяць тому

      @@strcmdrbookwyrm okay, tried to do those 3 variants some justice. The E was probably the hardest to feel “right” about, considering it’s a fairly good build, though it can be argued that the ammo is over the top, so as a result I actually made 3 versions that I’ll detail below. The H was tough cuz of criticals and it’s not heat neutral (though if you run or just don’t jump more than 2, you’ll be perfectly in the heat limit), and the L was just strange because the Plasma Cannons are a bit heavier than I thought they’d be, so I ended up taking a swing at a v2 and v3 for that as well.
      *Nova E - FIXED*
      14 DHS
      Medium Pulse Laser x3 (LA)
      Medium Pulse Laser (HD)
      ATM9 (RA)
      - 1 ton of each ammo type (21 shots total, 7 per type, RA)
      *Nova E - FIXED v2*
      16 DHS
      ER Medium Laser x3 (LA)
      ER Medium Laser (HD)
      ATM12 (RA)
      - 1 ton of each ammo type (15 shots total, 5 per type, RA)
      *Nova E - FIXED v3*
      16 DHS
      ER Medium Laser x3 (LA)
      ER Medium Laser (HD)
      ER Small Laser x2 (LT/RT)
      ATM9 (RA)
      - 1 ton of each ammo type (21 shots total, 7 per type, RA)
      Targeting Computer (CT)
      *Nova H - FIXED*
      22 DHS
      Heavy Medium Laser x6 (LA/RA)
      Targeting Computer (RT)
      *Nova L - FIXED*
      18 DHS
      ER Medium Laser x4 (LA/RA)
      ER Medium Laser x2 (LT/RT)
      Plasma Cannon (CT)
      - 1 ton of ammo (LT)
      Targeting Computer (RT)
      *Nova L - FIXED v2*
      16 DHS
      ER Medium Laser x4 (LA/RA)
      Plasma Cannon x2 (CT/HD)
      - 2 tons of ammo (LT/RT)
      Targeting Computer (RT)
      *Nova L - FIXED v3*
      16 DHS
      ER Small Laser x8 (LA/RA)
      Plasma Cannon x2 (CT/HD)
      - 2 tons of ammo (LT/RT)
      Targeting Computer (RT)
      Hit me with any feedback you have, or if you need any explanation why I did something for a particular variant :)

  • @ZacharyRoper256
    @ZacharyRoper256 Місяць тому +1

    Nice video, probably my favorite this far of the OmniMechs (except maybe the Timber Wolf). I really love the Nova it’s one of those that (to me anyway) has aged well, and remained relevant.
    Favorite config would be the Prime, though not going to lie when I was way younger totally did an alpha strike and admittedly smoked my opponent but the after effects wasn’t great!
    Nice job to Mini Frog, can tell he worked on it.

  • @mikedube1031
    @mikedube1031 Місяць тому +1

    I am a huge fan of this mech. I live the prime, a, and h configurations. I will have to try out the s now. Thanks, MF.

  • @tehpw7574
    @tehpw7574 Місяць тому +1

    0:24 Long Live the No-Torso Twist Quirk! They should still exist (and be about 10% cheaper in BV and cost to reflect that) especially if they were built before 3090!!

  • @135forte
    @135forte Місяць тому +1

    I like the T because it runs much cooler. 24 heat firing everything means you realistically threaten that 60 damage.

  • @ianhowick
    @ianhowick Місяць тому +2

    @0:16 there was a Nova in Borderlands? Also, this is only mildly related, but in Mechwarrior 3, i stripped down a SuperNova, and gave it 6 CERPPCs. I Alpha Striked durring a mission, and Crashed to Desktop. EDIT: Man. To'Kasha's (SP?) atmosphere has all the side effects of getting punched in the face. EDIT: Your Air Compressor neighbor is working on his mini backlog.

  • @chiggy123jsm
    @chiggy123jsm Місяць тому +1

    I myself have used both Prime and Alt. Config A. A being my personal favorite.

  • @Avtarangel
    @Avtarangel Місяць тому

    Nice job Mini-Frog great cameo.

  • @Sinnersaix
    @Sinnersaix Місяць тому +1

    Minifrog? More Minifrog, this is better then School for him 😂

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      Heh. You're ten now, time to get to work in the UA-cam coalmines.

  • @keebbles
    @keebbles Місяць тому +1

    LA/RA light ppc + large pulse + 2 DHS.
    R/L/CT small rotary chem lasers + 2 tons ammo.
    Laser AMS head.
    Alt IS mutt, The Party Nova
    2 Disco Lasers + 2 tons ammo each RA/LA along with 1 mdm pulse each arm too.
    2 MML 9 rt n lt hydra or incindiary LRMS ammo x1, 1 ton SRM infernos and 1 Ton EMP SRM ammo.
    Legs get a Bpod each.
    Head gets fusion flamer.
    CT active probe and supercharger
    No room for ecm.
    It's built to dmg and heat up targets and control pathing with fire and flame.
    Also invite any infantry in area to a BBQ.
    Note disco lasers add heat to target along with damage. Almost an area effect scatter shot and fires multiple pulses all at once.
    It's a helluva lightshow. (Roguetech mech)😊

  • @zielisawzielony9366
    @zielisawzielony9366 Місяць тому +1

    My fav build was lots of small pulse on left and as many heavy mediums on right.
    Its a fcuking suprise welding machine.

  • @ricardomachado6718
    @ricardomachado6718 Місяць тому

    "wanna play with fire? let me give you a scar"....