Man, it's no wonder these guys have such silly W/L records when basically all they do is exploit and abuse game mechanics. Second hand frustration watching the widest possible serve and blast the return down the other side and just blast every subsequent shot with their 98 power nonsense _every single time_ 😅
Yep, it feels like that's what you have to do back to them in order to have a chance at winning. Otherwise, you're cooked. I just need them to fix 30 serve and actually give players a reason to upgrade it. Then, maybe we can actually see less cheese and more balanced play styles.
@@MoreAyReef 100%. Its absolutely absurd people can put literally no points in to their serve and still serve with precision in to the corner every single time. With 30 serve their serve should basically be random and just go absolutely all over the place. I have a player that's like 27-14 and has nothing below 60 and nothing above 80 and I find it fun to play as him but it's such a grind when you play the 98 power guys. Then I have a player that does have the 98 power nonsense, and he's like 7-0 and it's just not fun at all by comparison.
Are there some attributes caps like nba 2k? If you are 99 power you can’t be 99 in fore/backhand and stamina, trade off should be power consuming stamina and reducing accuracy, so a power player dominance can last 1 game only. Btw goodbye to volee
@@ema2kolfiz828 Nope. There should be though, since almost no player in real life has an amazing backhand AND forehand. You should have to pick which one you want as your key shot and have it automatically cap how high the other can go. But nah, most people just have 90+ backhand, 90+ forehand, 98 power. 🙃
For the lefty sadly , lefties r extremely good in tennis due to the fact 80-90 % of tennis players r right handed , the same patterns u use u can’t really use against lefties cause it favors them . When he pulled up out wide on the deuce side there’s not much u can do , if u hit it across it sets down the line combo or he can lock u in place on the backhand to hit down the line. If u hit to his backhand it leaves you wide open for cross So aiming deep in the middle is your best option but u probably will need to slice those serves a lot more to by your self more time to reset in the baseline as much as possible . With his playing style it was just a war of nutrition on which side gives up first . After the 1set u can see it got 2 you / drained u which is why u performed worse vice versa the other guy had all the confidence. U still tend to go into the baseline to try and hit the serve u can do that from time to time to do the sabr basically, but overall u never ever ever want to do that .in irl tennis u do that u will 9/10 loose the point because of the ball speed and bad court position. In theory I get what your trying to do , your hoping to take the ball on the rise with a well time shot and reduce the speed and give him less time to react but in reality your hurting yourself more by doing that . Ik the meta is just be baseline players but tennis has so much variety to it volleys really should be implemented into your game even if u loose the points 9/10 times u need to improve on that , learning when to come forward based on your court position or if your gonna be in a advantage position. For example if your making someone half to lunge really far and u know it can’t get back deep or that strong that’s a really good time to come forward , it also is just good to do at times cause it forces the person to panic / quick think which will aid in free points. Idk if u can do this either but u can also try doing a drop shot on a serve which will probably catch people off guard but idk if the game can actually let you do that 😂. Overall your definitely vastly improving you would destroy the earlier version of yourself like you where a noob Great effort in the first set ❤️
Nice video. Wonder how you are able to move the serve aiming spot before starting the serve motion. Is that a skill you acquired? If I move my L before starting to serve it moves my player, not the aiming.
Im really trying to find a playstyle that suits me. This is my first topspin and online I am getting slaughtered. In your gameplay I see no reall volleys and going to the net to win a point. Do you think its better to just stay away from the net?
Yeah I try to stay away from the net. I have 30 volley so I am not able to finish off pts that often at the net. You need like 70+ volley to be consistent at the net. I hope you enjoy the game!
I’ve switched it up since this vid, but in this vid, I have 86 and 87 fh/bh, 95 power, 82 speed 80 reflexes I believe. New build vid hopefully soon. Thanks!
Yeah! It takes a little bit of practice. Just try to move the serve cursor at the same time as when you begin your serving motion. Then eventually you’ll get the hang of it. If you’re on controller, using the buttons to serve may be easier than using the right stick when you start out.
100%. I can't wait for it to go away. Or at least make it so that you need a high serve in order to be able to do it. That way, everything else gets balanced
Totally agree. As soon as you see some French or Italian guy with that 98 power 30 serve bombing them out wide I leave after a couple of games. They seriously need to patch this game so it’s balanced and these robots can’t spam control shots to the corner every time AND serve like prime Sampras.
Stop playing for a week cause my created player is at level 10 with mid 40’s to 50’s attributes and I see these guys with 90+ power. Do they buy VC to upgrade their players or just keep on grinding career mode. Match making needs to be more fair.
@@MoreAyReef sorry, didn't mean to sound like a dick but they are extremely useful against power players like this and your self. I only have 70 power and beat a lot of power players through wearing their stamina down and using their power against them with control shots. Mixing up net play really helps too to confuse people, I personally hate the "power meta" and try and go against doing it. I make so many power players rage quit after one set when their getting beat by someone with only 70 power lol
@@dylandelaporte7073 Haha, you're good. Yeah, I really should mix it up a bit more. I've just been waiting for them to balance out the game, then I figured I would change my play style based on how the game is. But, it's looking like they won't change it up anytime soon. Thanks though. Winning with 70 power is impressive
Good fight but its a dead end game the way they've allowed to to be played. Who wants to watch a bunch of people all doing just forehand backhand power speed over and over with all the individuality of stormtroopers might as well go do algebra lol, unwatchable game
“Individuality of stormtroopers” 😂. Hahaha, very true. I really hope they make some changes to the game, then we will see some more differing play styles.
@@MoreAyReef Yeah wish they'd speed up the playing surfaces so other play styles like serve and volley etc become viable like they used to be in actual tennis pre 2005 lol
@@divinecomedy7311 I wish playing surfaces actually made a difference.I understand serve and volley not working too well on clay, but it should definitely be a good play style for grass
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Thank you all for the support! I may change up my play style and build next vid. Stay tuned :)
This match shows perfectly why the game is not a tennis sim
Man, it's no wonder these guys have such silly W/L records when basically all they do is exploit and abuse game mechanics. Second hand frustration watching the widest possible serve and blast the return down the other side and just blast every subsequent shot with their 98 power nonsense _every single time_ 😅
Yep, it feels like that's what you have to do back to them in order to have a chance at winning. Otherwise, you're cooked. I just need them to fix 30 serve and actually give players a reason to upgrade it. Then, maybe we can actually see less cheese and more balanced play styles.
@@MoreAyReef 100%. Its absolutely absurd people can put literally no points in to their serve and still serve with precision in to the corner every single time. With 30 serve their serve should basically be random and just go absolutely all over the place.
I have a player that's like 27-14 and has nothing below 60 and nothing above 80 and I find it fun to play as him but it's such a grind when you play the 98 power guys.
Then I have a player that does have the 98 power nonsense, and he's like 7-0 and it's just not fun at all by comparison.
Are there some attributes caps like nba 2k? If you are 99 power you can’t be 99 in fore/backhand and stamina, trade off should be power consuming stamina and reducing accuracy, so a power player dominance can last 1 game only. Btw goodbye to volee
@@ema2kolfiz828 Nope. There should be though, since almost no player in real life has an amazing backhand AND forehand. You should have to pick which one you want as your key shot and have it automatically cap how high the other can go. But nah, most people just have 90+ backhand, 90+ forehand, 98 power. 🙃
If u have a player with good return u can easily negate that outside serve
Great new channel, if this game blows up and gets more traction you’ll grow massively
Thanks! I appreciate it!
U gotta either slice return or topspin return on that really wide serve. My soul was dying watching the same pattern over and over
Haha, you are right. Thanks
was really satisfying watching you fight back after the first few cheese serves.
Thank you!
Great content bro, keep grinding.
Thanks, will do!
loving the content bro
I appreciate it! Thanks for watching
Great content mate
Thanks, I appreciate it!
For the lefty sadly , lefties r extremely good in tennis due to the fact 80-90 % of tennis players r right handed , the same patterns u use u can’t really use against lefties cause it favors them .
When he pulled up out wide on the deuce side there’s not much u can do , if u hit it across it sets down the line combo or he can lock u in place on the backhand to hit down the line. If u hit to his backhand it leaves you wide open for cross
So aiming deep in the middle is your best option but u probably will need to slice those serves a lot more to by your self more time to reset in the baseline as much as possible .
With his playing style it was just a war of nutrition on which side gives up first . After the 1set u can see it got 2 you / drained u which is why u performed worse vice versa the other guy had all the confidence.
U still tend to go into the baseline to try and hit the serve u can do that from time to time to do the sabr basically, but overall u never ever ever want to do that .in irl tennis u do that u will 9/10 loose the point because of the ball speed and bad court position.
In theory I get what your trying to do , your hoping to take the ball on the rise with a well time shot and reduce the speed and give him less time to react but in reality your hurting yourself more by doing that .
Ik the meta is just be baseline players but tennis has so much variety to it volleys really should be implemented into your game even if u loose the points 9/10 times u need to improve on that , learning when to come forward based on your court position or if your gonna be in a advantage position.
For example if your making someone half to lunge really far and u know it can’t get back deep or that strong that’s a really good time to come forward , it also is just good to do at times cause it forces the person to panic / quick think which will aid in free points.
Idk if u can do this either but u can also try doing a drop shot on a serve which will probably catch people off guard but idk if the game can actually let you do that 😂.
Overall your definitely vastly improving you would destroy the earlier version of yourself like you where a noob
Great effort in the first set ❤️
Thanks! I appreciate the tips
Nice video. Wonder how you are able to move the serve aiming spot before starting the serve motion. Is that a skill you acquired? If I move my L before starting to serve it moves my player, not the aiming.
Thanks! I don't move it before starting the serve motion. I do it at the same time as me starting my serving timer.
Thank you so much for clarifying. I hope to play as good as you someday.
@@lmich76 Thanks for the kind words!
love the content bro
Thank you, I appreciate it!
I RESPECT real gameplay!!!!! U can hang with these guys, something’s are out of your control
Thanks!!
Good game play bro. What happen to contol shots?
Thanks. Yeah, I need to do that more
can you do a tuttorial about how to return service? I find it so hard
I'm not too great at it either. Maybe once I get good I could. But atm, I only win 40% of my return games :(
Im really trying to find a playstyle that suits me. This is my first topspin and online I am getting slaughtered. In your gameplay I see no reall volleys and going to the net to win a point. Do you think its better to just stay away from the net?
Yeah I try to stay away from the net. I have 30 volley so I am not able to finish off pts that often at the net. You need like 70+ volley to be consistent at the net.
I hope you enjoy the game!
He is the goat guys
The other guy? Yeah he was crazy
What build you using
I’ve switched it up since this vid, but in this vid, I have 86 and 87 fh/bh, 95 power, 82 speed 80 reflexes I believe. New build vid hopefully soon. Thanks!
Impossible to hit the ball out, unrealistic
no its not
can you please teach how to serve? i cant serve
Yeah! It takes a little bit of practice. Just try to move the serve cursor at the same time as when you begin your serving motion. Then eventually you’ll get the hang of it. If you’re on controller, using the buttons to serve may be easier than using the right stick when you start out.
@@MoreAyReef thanks bro
The serve cheese has to stop man it’s killing the game.
100%. I can't wait for it to go away. Or at least make it so that you need a high serve in order to be able to do it. That way, everything else gets balanced
Totally agree. As soon as you see some French or Italian guy with that 98 power 30 serve bombing them out wide I leave after a couple of games. They seriously need to patch this game so it’s balanced and these robots can’t spam control shots to the corner every time AND serve like prime Sampras.
@@MoreAyReef me too! the game is great, but is cheese and is destroying the game!
Nothing will change because reflexes speed and stamina are not really that affective so players will have less of these and more serve
Stop playing for a week cause my created player is at level 10 with mid 40’s to 50’s attributes and I see these guys with 90+ power. Do they buy VC to upgrade their players or just keep on grinding career mode. Match making needs to be more fair.
Control shots do exist you know?
Thanks for letting me know. I didn't know
@@MoreAyReef sorry, didn't mean to sound like a dick but they are extremely useful against power players like this and your self.
I only have 70 power and beat a lot of power players through wearing their stamina down and using their power against them with control shots.
Mixing up net play really helps too to confuse people, I personally hate the "power meta" and try and go against doing it.
I make so many power players rage quit after one set when their getting beat by someone with only 70 power lol
@@dylandelaporte7073 Haha, you're good. Yeah, I really should mix it up a bit more. I've just been waiting for them to balance out the game, then I figured I would change my play style based on how the game is. But, it's looking like they won't change it up anytime soon. Thanks though.
Winning with 70 power is impressive
You really should turn those helpers off
You really should give me a real good reason as to why. Do not waste my time with a bad reason
Good fight but its a dead end game the way they've allowed to to be played. Who wants to watch a bunch of people all doing just forehand backhand power speed over and over with all the individuality of stormtroopers might as well go do algebra lol, unwatchable game
“Individuality of stormtroopers” 😂. Hahaha, very true. I really hope they make some changes to the game, then we will see some more differing play styles.
@@MoreAyReef Yeah wish they'd speed up the playing surfaces so other play styles like serve and volley etc become viable like they used to be in actual tennis pre 2005 lol
@@divinecomedy7311 I wish playing surfaces actually made a difference.I understand serve and volley not working too well on clay, but it should definitely be a good play style for grass
The other guy is completely bullshit, insane how you can’t even play its serves.
Yeah, it was crazy!
This game is pathetic.
It’s pretty fun to play. Definitely the best console tennis game of the past 10-15 years