If your comment is to detract from Shanann's very problematic ways with the girls by referring to Chris Watts' convictions, save yourself some time because I'll erase your comment to clear up senseless noise. Anyway, most people here believe Chris did not even kill his girls (see other videos on this channel for substantiation). I'll also erase all declarations that no one is allowed to analyze the problematic behavior of a person said to be deceased, which when done professionally is an aspect of "Forensic Psychiatry" (so don't be ridiculous).
@@orangecat6870 Awful! imo these are paid trolls, and some of them can't even fake their hateful attitudes towards children. The ONLY times I've seen ugly stuff written about Bella has been from a "Shiner".
@@susanprimavera1312 Maybe you need help regarding your rudeness. Bella didn't do anything in this video to desrve a spanking. Um, okayyy. I don't even believe in children being hit or swatted, yet, I am accused of agreeing to children being murdered . Well. doesn't that make a whole lot of sense.....not
4 роки тому+5
@@patriciapearl2529 That Santa video could be used in a graduate class for the purposes of demonstrating how a parent’s wants & needs are primary. Good GRIEF that video is atrocious.
@@Felicity2121 Yes and Bella stated to the baby sitter that she was afraid that Ce Ce would die from eating coconut. Poor Bella was always afraid that her little sister would die or be taken away😥
@@thought-provokingvideos5464 I wonder how much was just a show. Some of the only consistent facts are inconsistencies. Staged all together Fully set up, or set up patsy? I see degrading to him and the girls as a common pattern.
It really pisses me off how she is only worried about her stupid audience and forces her kids to be a part of her madness. These kids don't want to keep saying "hi" to a computer screen!!
Exactly!!! Every two seconds she like “say hi, say hi, girls say hi, bella say hi to yahnitta banana” 😂 “say hi” and “thrive” are her favorite things to say.
The girls were the only patient ones in the room. Bella showed tons of tolerance before breaking down. This was very damaging to the girls, very sad. She and Chris CAUSED the girls to be crying in the end, they don't even realize what they've neglected to do, shameful.
Honestly. I hated this with my own cousins in other countries I barely saw and that was family. At least that was in person and not a phone shoved in my 3 year old face. Poor babies
@@angelwings7930 Especially when her live videos didn’t go as perfect as she wanted them to be 😒 What bothered me the Most was the Constant Teasing with those Pro’Bars , Bella would be So Hungry and Shanann would keep telling her to hold on meanwhile eating it infront of her telling her viewers how amazing they are and then she would tell Bella to smell them but not even give her a bite and you could hear her whining and desperation from Pure Hunger 😒😔 I don’t know if you ever noticed but Cece always had a Sippy Cup, Food or Snack and Bella “Nothing” Cece Looked Healthy While Bella Looked Under Weight and really sick, Bella use to get so excited to go to her grandparents house because she knew she’d get to eat more over there than she could ever eat at home ….
@@EccoLivingLife as I said before there's no excuse for his horriffic actions but this story is a microcosm of what's wrong with the world today. Weak men that lack communication, problem solving skills, her extreme narcicissm and abuse of her kids & him that went unchecked for years, mlm scams, people pretending to have the perfect lives for attention on social media, affairs etc....there are many lessons to be learned & that doesn't happen when you just look at the end result
I can’t believe you people are doing this for real and are not baiting, I refuse to believe that someone cannot see how awfully narcissistic and abusive was Chris and they will rather blame responsible and confident Shanann for what happend there, for me - you easily should be in prison with him
This was so unnatural. Staged for her thrive customers hoping to portray a ideal family activity. Looking at all the perfect appliances and big kitchen it’s sad to think they were broke.
Seeing Bella gripping her hands and touching her face after being told no is exactly what I would do as a kid when my parent berated me. I felt that all over again. Poor girls. Parenting is hard but those details don't lie, they were probably told "NO" constantly
Shannan hated every minute of this. She’s such a control freak. She was trying her hardest to keep it together and put up the front that she enjoys “teaching them” how to do stuff.
As a preschool and pre kin teacher I did many cooking projects with 15 children all having a turn . This is just a photo op. Poor little ones did not get to interact with any ingredients or baking utensils.
I don't think they had a sad life I think they had a very good life the girls did anyway. They were going to school so it was obviously preschool which is not required in most States and it costs money. I don't imagine they were on Head Start which is free.
@@leslieolsondyersdynamicadv2918 I think they were drugged to sleep every night and literally locked in their rooms at 6:30. This is not a good life for any child.
Yes, Bella looked sad all the time. 😢 She rarely seemed to be enjoying herself and when she did seem happy, she would become sad or have an all out emotional breakdown at the drop of a hat. No child is supposed to have breakdowns like that. There were triggers in her environment that often made her sad, hence her trichotillomania. Anyone, adult or child, who is pulling out patches of their hair is emotionally disturbed. Doctors believe pulling out hair is a way of dealing with negative or uncomfortable feelings, such as stress, anxiety, tension, boredom, loneliness, extreme tiredness and frustration. It’s clear from Shanann’s videos that Bella was experiencing all of the above. Shannan made it worse by telling her things such as if CeCe eats coconuts, she will never wake up again. That’s probably not something you should tell a three or four-year-old.
This is extremely disturbing and sad. I thought I was the only one noticing from what I saw about the case that the whole 'online lives' of these children was a form of abuse. Bella and Cece didnt get the chance to do anything.
First time I heard about this case was from the Netflix documentary and when I first watched it I thought it was extremely weird she was always posting what seemed to be EVERYTHING on social media. All the live streams etc. it’s like she just wanted all the attention from everyone. She wanted everyone to see her “picture perfect life” terrible that she and the two babies were murdered. There is no justification for that action from CW but the fact that SW may have been abusive and a narcissist to her family can not be over looked.
Not to mention destroyed their Liver. You cannot give high does of liquid Night time Tylenol to kids every single afternoon before naps and every night before bed without it doing major damage to their little organs.
That’s the worst part! I’m sure Bella and CeCe were acutely aware of her comments about “it’s crazy here”…”monsters”… and etc. Those poor angels had a short life and so much stress
It's so sad to see them get frustrated to the point of bella breaking down! And SW acts as if it's totally random like she hasn't been ignoring and blocking them from doing anything interesting. SW just staring into the stupid camera while bella cries seems so unnatural!
Right. And somehow she thinks this is a good ad for Thrive like look it helps me deal with these "monsters". No, you treated them terribly so they were constantly in distress
i hate how shannann didn’t let the girls do like... anything. i was a babysitter for years and worked with kids and i get it, some things you just really have to do yourself and sometimes theres too many kids to give everyone something, but at least give them an empty bowl to play with and copy you!! or like the tiniest tasks like, ‘please can you clean up the flour off the table?’ or ANYTHING.
but baking with kids who are that age is FUN AS HECK no need to get my hands dirty when the kids will literally do ANYTHING just out of excitement hahahah
@@karaa7595 how do u not know how to bake cookies with your kids? I thought everybody knew how to do that let them stir and lick the spoon lick the bowl done. Glad I could help a little.
Her Antisocial Personality Disorder meant she EXPLOITED people MAXIMALLY. That meant the girls were there to say dozens of "hi's" to do kissy-lips to the camera OR to appear "wild" and "impossible" (ergo mom has to take THRIVE) when they inevitably cried from lame-a** treatment.
@@thought-provokingvideos5464 I know, I sadly feel like her girls and perhaps even Chris were always just 'props' in her videos to make her look good and portray a certain image. It is sad how social media has created so much of this narcissism or maybe just amplified it. What happened to these girls breaks my heart.
I am very sad to say that Shanann was a tyrant. Control, control, control. Let your girls have a little messy fun once in awhile. Shanann always had to do everything her way! Also, is she filming a cooking show? Why can’t you organically just have a nice collective time together. It is always a show for her, mothering comes second. Shanann is so self involved. What child wants to say hi a million times to a camera when trying to make cookies.
I think everyone in Shanann's life was scared of her. I'm sure when she didn't get her way she was Hell to deal with. Her parents were actually watching this disaster unfold but didn't say anything?? Chris was in the back ground trying to appease the situation so Shanann wouldn't go off...I'm sure everyone in this woman's life walked on egg shells around her. The only person who ever stood up to her bad behavior was Chris' mom and look what happened there... Shanann blocked her from their lives. Shanann was a nightmare and Chris and the girls were living in it.
Wait What? I've yet to see a video of SW interacting with her family that isn't fraught with underlying tension, fear & despair. And all are supposed to be "fun" videos, "heart-warming". They chill me to the bone. Think about the videos you've seen of other people posting something cute their child does---you find yourself smiling unconsciously. Now what expression is on your face when you watch these?
Facts she was never motherly at all. Everything was for the camera , say hi Bella, say hi Cece I feel so bad for them babies their whole lifes were bad. Shannan got so annoyed with her kids even when she didn't have a babysitter or have her kids in daycare she still couldn't put the fake social life away and just be a dam mom. Poor babies.
Oh boo hoo for them. I've had much worse experiences with my family than baking cookies. Sure the girls were used as pawns in Shanann's infinate quest to show off her "perfect" her family is but atleast they weren't being abused or neglected.
@@fruff30 this is mental abuse. Those babies are confused and distressed and she couldn't give a damn. All these videos show what a horrible mum she was. Abuse doesn't have to be physical.
My mom flipped me like Shanann did. Narcs care about two things. Money & Power. I’d add themselves but they’ve got that covered. I used to give this beast grace and then I woke up to my entire existence thus far on our planet. My mom is her. Now my empathy goes to far away places thinking about how those two Angels felt during… When you *buse a child you create a psychic. We are growing up now, awakening essentially and here to help so situations like this never happen again.
Its very sad how she treated the girls. Also, she was too lazy to do cici's hair, always putting it into that goofy looking one pony on the top of her head. She was an extremely bad Mom.
I hope you all have your informations right before slandering a dead woman and her children. Because these comments are kinda disgusting to read. Where do you have the information that she cut Cece’s hair as a punishment? I’d like to see if it’s true. And I agree that she spent waaaay too much time on social media (although I know it was her job), and yes she should definitely have treated her girls better/not talked to them the way she did and make them feel more involved. But having said that, it’s hard to 100% judge people from a few videos. To me those girls looked well taken care of and no parent is perfect. Take it from someone who grew up with an alcoholic father that didn’t take care of, abused and neglected his children in every kind of way you can imagine.
At least she wasn't chopping Ceces hair "every month" apparently with her eyes closed. She had her own hair done perfectly each day...during one of her many quiet times while the girls were locked up like flowers in the attic...
Happy to come across your channel. I truly thought I was the only one that saw these things. I was horrified to hear that Shannan got the girls up, dressed and off to 9 hours of "school" then Chris picked them up, played with, fed them dinner, baths and in bed by 7 PM. They locked them in their rooms with loud noise machines. Shannan treated Chris and the girls terribly and even got posses when she had to watch them for 5 hours all alone...gasp while in N.C. She seems like an over spending attention who're to me. I don't know what happened but I'm definitely checking out your other videos on them. Thanks!!
Those kids spent 12 hours a day in their bed/rooms. They were put to bed @ 6:30. While the rest of the neighborhood is out walking dogs, riding bikes, playing etc. Blackout curtains, sound machines and the nightly medicating them so they weren't aware the rest of the world didn't live like that and she didn't have to deal with them. Absolute abuse and insanity
I do think they look quite unwell and before I started researching this I assumed it was from their many "illnesses". I never watched the live streams and my knowledge came from the Netflix documentary. Further investigation has change my perspective on this. Something was very wrong and I truly believe CW did not kill the girls.
When my kids were this age , I use to bake sugar cookies and let my kids decorate them while I baked the next batch. They had fun and felt they were helping. That being said the way the girls reacted when corrected reminded me of my own upbringing. I grew up with a Narcissistic mother. You were constantly walking on egg shells. As a child if I did anything she deemed was wrong , I could feel myself whelp with emotion. My lips trembled like I saw on Bella's face. The look of " She's going to scream at us" on CeCe's face. Meanwhile Chris is playing the role of camera man and is too afraid to rock the boat, so he doesn't say a word, just like my dad. My dad just wanted peace and never to upset my mom because when you did, it was hell on Earth for the next few days.
You're telling my story, the story of a lot of people here, I think. My father always gave me money behind my mother's back to salve his conscience. As I got older, I realized that in a way he was just buying himself peace, sacrificing me to my mother and compensating me with money. I found that very odd. However, later, when I was older, I was able to talk to him about it and he was/is very sorry for everything. My mom still thinks she's the best mom/wife in the world and that we're just ungrateful.
treated like she wasn’t even there in this video, of course until she started to have a breakdown and then she gets all the attn telling her pipe down, as if she shouldn’t have been sad about being treated like complete shit. those two numbskulls had zero clue how to parent. just awful.
This isn’t the only video where SW drives her children to hysterics, then she can play Mother of the Year to her audience and coddle and kiss them because they need her oh so much. ‘See how hard my life is?’ But in this video, Bella actually pushes away those comforting arms and motherly bosom. She had been led through this tired act way too often and she knew her mother wasn’t sincere; mother was patronizing. Also in this video Bella loses it and breaks down around 12:15, seemingly out of nowhere. That household was fraught with tension.
Shanann feels humiliated bc in her mind, Bella has ruined her perfect movie. The answer is to now humiliate Bella at 16:25 by telling CeCe to show off her pigtails. Bella is self conscious about her lack of her hair. In one video, Bella says No twice, clearly communicating that she does not want to sing Holly Jolly Christmas. In the most heartbreaking moment, Shannan exploits Bella’s insecurity about her hair w a bribe, saying if you do it, I’ll get you some hair clips. At the end of this video, Shanann punishes Bella for having a breakdown by making the comment about CeCe’s pigtails, which she knows will upset Bella. That’s covert child abuse.
yes, it's so plain to see and all the Shan worshippers call her "spoiled". They actually believe that. I can't believe they do. It makes me worried about their own children.
As someone with a chronic illness with no cure, like Shannan claimed to also have, while I watch this I find myself getting so irritated, bordering on angry. I wish I could have baked more cookies with my children when they were this age. I had maybe a couple instances of a good enough day to share this kind of thing with my kids. I was both in too much pain and too deeply exhausted to stand up or even sit up long enough to have the chance she had to do something special with her kids. When she had the opportunity, her face is stuck in a damn camera and her “audience” are her priority. Also, I am angered by how she uses a non-existent illness to sell her Thrive shit but can do everything BUT have the patience to spend time with her kids. When you have a legitimate illness that you see treatment for (in her case, Thrive), you are in too much pain, and too exhausted to “have it all”, even on the surface. Your house is a mess, you are a mess, you apologize for rhe state of things around you because you simply cannot do it all. Parents who have a chronic illness will sacrifice a clean house to spend your better days with your children. She did NOT have an illness that caused her significant issues and lets say that Thrive did cure or well-control chronic illnesses, wouldn’t everyone of us be prescribed that for our own? Wouldn’t every doctor be prescribing Thrive to droves of people? Wouldn’t drug companies be making billions by making their own version of Thrive?! She was toxic. She couldn’t deal with her kids long enough to bake cookies AND she embellished a minor health issue to push an expensive shake onto people desperate for something to make their lives bearable. I’d eat dog shit if it would take away the pain and fatigue I feel 24/7 and do more with my kids but it does not exist. That she ruined the short time she had with her kids by focusing on selling that snake oil makes me furious. No, CW shouldn’t have killed her and those beautiful girls, that’s not questioned. But that woman was no angel and because she was murdered didn’t transform her i to one after death either. I really feel so much pity for those little girls. They had a horrific death and they weren’t treasured while they were alive either, they were just used to sell crap. It’s so, so sad.
Me too! I would have given anything to make cookies with my son. I used to crawl on the kitchen floor to make him dinner! This is why people deny you are ill because of her crap! Especially male Drs.
Somewhere a psychology professor is using these videos to educate students about narcissism. Do MLMers really make these sorts of videos for each other? For what reason? Repeatedly SW sets up situations on camera where she forces her children to cry, and then she can pretend to comfort them. And what went on when the cameras were off? This tense, debt-ridden household was clearly headed for disaster.
They were due in family court shortly after the tragedy, where allegations of abuse are dealt with. Chris was in the process of getting out, this would have been great for the girls. Most basic mental health care worker would have seen that it was the leaving of her partner/enabler (plus everything else crashing down around her -- that morning she tried to buy hair care products but her credit card(s) was full.) that is most likely to trigger a violent narcissistic rage...
@@thought-provokingvideos5464 The thing is, if she did kill the children, he could have just called the authorities. Even if he killed her out of anger. It would have been understood. There’s so much that does make sense, then it doesn’t, then it does…..Chris initially did say that she killed the children. But how could she have done that between 2:00 am and the time he left at 6 am? He was in the house with her. He wouldn’t have let her do that. Unless…she waited for him to sleep and then slipped them something and told him? But then why would he change his story later and say he suffocated them at the oil site? Just stuff is not adding up.
Shanann (Whose real name is Shannon... she even lied about her name) had no patience with these girls. Everything that happened in that house was the SHANANN SHOW. She never cared if the girls were having fun. It was all about Shanann!! Those poor kids were nothing more than a prop for this controlling woman. Chris can't even make a decision as small as if Cece can have a spoon... The downfall of this family was Shanann. Chris was pushed and pushed till he snapped. Yes, he should spend the rest of his life in prison for killing the girls but I think the killing of Shanann was caused by years of emotional abuse and of him being degraded. He didn't have an identity anymore. He was Shanann's puppet and prop...
There was absolutely zero point in this live at all! She has two children under the age of 5 wanting to get involved and all she cared about were the viewers and the children saying hi to the camera. Absolutely nuts! You have got to be joking if you seriously think it’ll be an easy breezy relaxing baking session with two children under 5?! Where she does everything, and explains nothing, this was just all a mess. was very uncomfortable to watch to say the least
You never see toys in their rooms either. When my son was that age there were toys all over the floors!! My house was clean, but messy. I let my son play in my spice rack when I cooked. He looked forward to it every day. I don’t understand people who live their lives on live streams. Who the hell watched her every time she went live?? These people are all nuts. Who wants to watch another family baking together? I’d feel weird watching that. I mean, I kinda do right now.
She was self-evidently an emotionally abusive parent. The true history of this case will never be It's obvious that there has been a massive cover-up by the authorities so you have to ask yourself why....
@@bevbeans3166 that's exactly what I want to know. Is there any way that we can petition to have this case reexamined? I just can't seem to let it go!!
@@bevbeans3166 IMO it could be a murd3r su!side? Just assessing every angle. Sm0ther Revenge is common in abusive mothers who are being divorced and set to lose everything. Her Thrive facade was up...
I don’t find too much weirdness here. Maybe shanann was just in a hurry or something. Was it set up as a learning activity for the kids or was she really trying to get cookies made.
@@esta1ful I’ve just seen too many videos where Bella will state she’s hungry and Shanann would eat in front of her and tease her with food. Bribe her to say things to her ‘audience’. Honestly it all became way too hard to watch. There was some definite issues there.
This channel is biased and against Shannan. It’s not to say that she was perfect but deleting any comments that doesn’t go with this channel’s narrative just proves they are looking for ways to blame the victim.
@@alexrose8299 the only comments that get deleted are abusive ones. Yours hasn't been because you are polite even though you don't agree with the viewpoint of the channel creator
@@alexrose8299 No - only comments where those of us that believe something different than the mainstream narrative of what happened are yelled at that we condone what happened to Shanann and the girls or that we are justifying it or victim-blaming. Those comments are emotional drivel that do not contribute to the larger debate at all or the peaceful sharing of opinions. It's literally just people that most likely know very little if anything about this case flipping out and saying we support the murder of children and women because we don't subscribe to the belief that Chris is the one that killed Bella and Celeste. It's not far fetched to anyone that would take the time and actually hear the arguments from both sides and weigh them against each other. Or prove me wrong.
This is sickening. Shanann treated her children like stage props. She spent the entire time interacting with the camera while either ignoring her children or thwarting their natural desire to "help mommy". The grand finale is after she's finished & the frustrated children are actually having a meltdown Shanann declares that she's going to spend the rest of the day running around shopping. I think you're 100% correct; she had a personality disorder. She shows so many disturbing character traits that I don't see how it could be otherwise. I'm not a psychologist but the vast amount of video & other evidence you've gathered makes her personality disorder so obvious that it doesn't take a psychologist to see it. It's not borderline. It's obvious. *Thank You for making & sharing your excellent videos.*
@@laguerita289 A woman who could treat her children with the cruelty recorded in these videos does *not* have a "beautiful" spirit. I pray the innocent children are at peace but I feel much less sorry for their mother.
@@irinamariatracy7300 Apparently, you replied without reading my entire comment(s) where I described baking with my own three children. Shame on you for making excuses for *child abuse* . That cruel $h*t show of Shannan using her children as props for her video should never have happened. She wasn't baking *with* them; she was using them to make a PR video. Those poor girls weren't enjoying themselves & ended up in a crying meltdown because of their mother's narcissistic behavior. Judging from your tone & your shouting [all caps] it's obvious which one of us should get a life.
@@laguerita289 "Our" hearts?? Are you two or more people? Speak for yourself because you don't speak for me. Watching these videos of Shannan mistreating her children made me sick. I feel for the poor children but if there's a just God, I don't think Shannan is resting in peace. She mistreated her children & ruined the family financially. I think she has a lot to answer for.
@@laguerita289 There's so much idiocy in your comment that I'm going to have to tackle it, point by point. a)Are you trying to tell me that Shannan's *ghost* has been speaking to her mother? If you believe that, then you're credulous, indeed & I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. b)"People like you are the problem." .... What problem is that? Please explain. (But don't tell me that Shannan's ghost is telling you I'm a problem. Please stick to facts.) c) "Let this woman & children Rest in Peace Jesus." ??? My goodness, *you just told me* that "Shannan is resting well" so what on earth are you talking about? In any case, do you actually believe that commenting on a UA-cam video is going to disturb those children in heaven? Or their mother.... wherever *she* is? d) I've *already* watched the video .... So why are you telling me not to watch it? In fact, why are you telling me to do *anything* ? Do you think you can make random people on UA-cam do whatever you command? Lol e) Finally, my name isn't "Jesus" .... Or are you taking the Lord's name in vain, in the same sentence that you're talking about "Resting in Peace" ??
@@laguerita289 Shannan is mistreating her children *in this video* . Using your children as props for a PR video while neglecting & frustrating them to the point that they have an emotional meltdown is *abuse* . Emotional abuse is as cruel as physical abuse. You've admitted that Shannan had a personality disorder. Well, clearly she was in the process of creating personality disorders in her daughters.
You brilliantly observe and analyse bad parenting, this is so distressing to watch, the emotional neglect .... I’d like the creators of Instagram to see what a monster they’ve created in the ‘monetisation’ of social media and the narcissistic craving for likes. Mother seems more concerned with projecting an mage..
Yes she does, this is so heartbreaking to watch, as the girls look so interested and ready to just get stuck in, especially CeCe with her little bowl and spoon, God love her!. When she said CECE (meaning stop cece) that little darling was so ready to be given an instruction to mix, add this, or be asked to put something in her bowl and she got nothing!@! This woman was so self obsessed, it was a crime how she bought them girls up. When Bella looks forlorn at the end it breaks my heart to watch that. There is no mothering from saint Shannan AT ALL! All dhe can do is bark all orders when they do get to measure some flour in (chris encourages the girls all the way through but seems very scared to tell Scaman that she is not including them enough, the wet lettuce that he is) Also dont get me started on the say hi, say hi, say hi, say hi, like the thrive robot, she became....so God damn annoying. All shiners must think this is ok, it is not OK!!! When she said," I am glad I thrive" what so she can annoy and ignore her children. As she thinks they were the problem, not her. Ah well well both CeCe and Bella are showing the shiner lot how ok it was,they should have been able to mix the mix themselves, roll out the cookie dough and cut out cookies then show pop pop, nana and mimi and papa their spoils later, but no just get offered a small bowl of facking chocolate chips, she says " I dont know why I chose to go live".....errrrr neither to I, but I strongly suspect it was to make HER look good to all the weirdo STRIVERS. RIP with the Angel's you sweet, sweet girls xxx
@@verityking6965 I agree with you. Bella did not want chocolate chips or marshmellows or yet another sugar laden sweet. She wanted to stir the cookie dough and participate. Poor Bella was so frustrated and confused
How could people, her friends or just media followers, who ever saw videos like this cookie making say she was "ammmaaazing mom"??? She was god-awful mom! Terrible!
This video was all about Shannan being a super mom, not about the kids enjoying something. Bella always looks so sad. Her whole live is a Thrive commercial.
She had serious personality dysfunctions and maybe other issues ... Can't just fix that, but I know what you mean ... Children deserve so much more quality attention and less toxic "attention"
I can’t believe no one ever called her out for these livestreams. There’s one with the protein bar and Bella that really shook me up. She kept teasing the poor child with it, saying how yummy it was and never giving Bella a bite. Of course it ended with Bella in tears and shannan gaslighting her.
She did have a few people mention on her FB lives, she called them 'Haters'.... More like they were doing their duty of care to stand up for those innocent kids when nobody else did.
Actually in the video I point out that it's quite do-able at those ages, but this was done so selfishly there was no way it could go well. Shanann was inappropriate with all the activities she did with her girls.
I tried this activity with my boys when they were a bit older but their child size table so the could have the stuff near them. Ok, so I had flour an sugar on the floor, but that is what vacuum cleaners are for. The kids had fun but we changed over to home made play doe after that. Nice to sink your little hands into and make animals out of it. Then let it dry and paint it, use glitter (vacuum cleaner again). Also make ashtrays and hand prints and give as gifts.
She would over exaggerate or flat out lie about her children ALOT! For the only few hours a day that they were awake, they were called "monster" or "Wild, messy monsters, then showed Bella and Celeste just sitting and staring at her like most of us are doing while watching her "thrive" promotions
Shannan is an absolute nightmare to behold. Controlling , self serving and totally oblivious to Bella and Ce Ce. I saw one small clip of her Mother Sandra apparently 'teaching' little Bella to make 'pigs in blankets' she was similarly controlling, and couldn't just let the sweet child have a go without sticking her own hands in. What a toxic pair . Shannon and Sandra.
I really appreciate your message at the end about fighting the narcissist within. I watched this interaction and know that I was guilty of some of this behavior when my kids were little. I wonder if I would have spotted it if I had a chance to watch it back on video. If only we could go back in time. Your commentary is eye opening. Thank you so much.
No parent is perfect all the time. I’m sure that if you had recorded all your actions then, you would have found more natural, warm and thoughtful interactions that you don’t recall! SW was foolish enough not only to record all her ugly behavior, but to post at all online! [Did she really think her Facebook friends wanted to watch every moment of SW’s scintillating life?] Again, I can’t believe how often SW snaps at these poor kids. “It’s CRAZINESS here!”
@@annmeyer2854 Thank you so much... that was a really wonderful thing to say! I'm going to believe that it's true. And so true about SW and her FB, yikes.
Hello! Omg your comment almost made me cry 😢 I have a 8 year old son and I think I was like that at times when he was younger. Don’t get me wrong I love him more than anything! But I have to recognize that I have the tendency to stress easily, maybe I need to chill a little more, but never too late like you said! Ifyou don’t mind me asking you, did your kids were seriously affected by this behavior?
It’s interesting Bella is the one who looks most like Chris and she has a very sweet sensitive soul but if she doesn’t do everything just right ( just like how the furniture has to be ) then she’s scolded . It’s really quite tragic
She gave them chocolate chips in the morning just to shut them up....!!!! That a very bad recipe for cookies, my goodness that much sugar its not good. Why put them on the stream and said WE are making cookies, when she was the the only one doing stuff, barely makes the little girls participate, why this torture
lol no shit the girls are upset. shannann could have done a live video of her making perfect cookies by herself and let the girls go play so that they'd actually have something to do. instead they're told to just watch and make duck faces at the camera with their completely inappropriate lipstick.
Exactly... My mom used to make a place in the kitchen to teach us to make cookies and make a mess, and teach us to clean up. Why couldn't shannan do that? Her poor baby 🍼 girls were so eager to learn 🤗.... But NO... SHE COULDN'T HAVE HAVE that... She had to have ALL the ATTENTION..
I just seen this video the other day and was irritated by it. I remember when I was a little girl my mom use to let me bake with her and I loved it! I stirred made a mess but it was great memories. She did it for me. Not to make a fake mlm video for her audience. She is using her kids for props basically for her videos. She is so much about image it is sick. I’m so glad you post these videos! People need to see how she really was. Keep up the good work with these videos!
Ramona Carroll Your obviously on the wrong channel. Plus this channel creator said we are allowed to analyze the problematic behavior and just because they are deceased doesn’t mean we can’t.
@@ivantheterriblepart3 Right this minute her parenting skills are being praised on the other channel about this video. I had to comment, "should have let Bella stir the flour. How do you not see it people!!!!
@Steve Turowski no he took them to the field first both of them were alive at that particular time. After that he one by one choked bella and cece and threw them into the oil tank he has confessed it by himself. Also camera has shown bella and cece were alive when he was putting the dead body of Shannan in the car coz when he was putting the stuff in the truck there was a shadow that approached him and that was definitely bella and then he put her in the car as well..
@@patriciapearl2529 there were scratch marks on his neck idk what kind of research you did. Also Chris has admitted she was not fighting back she was looking into him that he'll leave her and let her go.. but she went wrong coz he killed her. That kind of a trust she had also she was 7 month pregnant and he was sitting on the baby.
Georgia Floyd so loving that he killed his unborn child instead of calling the cops on his wife? You guys are crazy...she definitely had some issues but he killed them all thus his confession you weirdos
rkaur14 are you kidding me? What planet do you live on. ? There is so much pressure. Police can get people t confess to anything ...it’s been going on forever. Add to the facts that Chris seems to have a learning disability, it is easily manipulated
This is so heartbreaking I think she made that home hell on earth for all of them. Everyone just sat by and watched that was close to them and no one thought there was anything wrong with this behavior? I just don't get it.
You know I have been thinking about this.I got into this case awhile back and Im shocked I didnt notice it before.She never hugs or kisses her kids.She also doesnt console either one of them.Its pretty strange.
Chris continuously says “Good Job,” something kids need to hear, while Shanann NEVER compliments the girls in this video or any others. This is not about quality time w her children. It’s about putting on yet another show to get her fix - likes and acceptance from her online audience. You have to keep kids engaged in an activity like this, even allowing them to play with (and ruin) some of the ingredients that’ll end up in the trash during cleanup time. You can’t prepare, measure, and keep your kids engaged all while trying to entertain and PRETEND for FB. I feel bad for Shanann bc something terrible happened during her childhood causing her to have so many toxic behaviors.
Her kids seem like they aren’t developed emotionally & that’s 100% on mom. It’s no wonder they were never happy. I haven’t seen a single video of them not whining and sulking, because their mom was a self absorbed POS more concerned with her social media than nurturing and teaching.
The little girls couldnt wait to help mk cookies! They never did, but tried..then told "no" alot & to say hi to the stupid camera. They did not like the camera always on.
Thank you for making these videos observing the children in these videos. As a child development major I appreciate these so much in terms of looking at this case. It’s really heartbreaking the way these poor children are treated in these live-streams. They’re constantly ignored of their needs.. their cries make my heart feel so heavy 🥺
I even doubt that there was flour on the floor. She would have shown it if there was. If she had the audacity to upload multiple photo's of her little angels sleeping with blankets and pillows over their faces when they allegedly had asthma and she pinched their noses on FB until they cried she sure would have shown flour on the floor as another way to devalue/degrade her kids like she did incessantly and claim that she's a "great mommm".
I lived with a vile narcissist and what Chris was doing is excatly what I did so the narc wouldn't explode, I constantly had to pacify the situation with my then little boy, he's now 15. It was absolute soul destroying living in that house, thank the Lord it's now no more. I can't believe how much she had to portray herself and her children's life into that camera, those poor girls to me seemed in the way of a perfect existence she was trying to show her viewers, but it wasn't perfect at all, it was full on controlling!! And what gets me, why did Bella have such short hair for a little girl🤔
I thought it was short because it just hadn't grown in yet...which, I thought was odd too considering Bellas age. I wondered if it was due to lack of nutrition.
Growing up I remember I always wanted to help my mom to bake, decorate or just participate and she always pushed me away saying I couldn’t do nothing right.... I have trouble now doing things because I always feel that I’ll mess up, I’m very insecure.... poor girls they had a difficult life ahead
Bless you, that is what happens to a lot of people. I agree with you that those girls would of grown up very insecure and the world would of been a hard place for them to navigate, just like their Mother whom had the same treatment herself,by the looks of things. I truly hope for you that you can understand that the problem was never with you and your Mother was solely to blame. Take each situation and challenge yourself to change your negative mindset, by doing this you will be able to help yourself gradually undo what is there in your mind. Once you know it can be done it will be done. Xxxx😘 much love xxx
Not so much annoyed as actually caring about the girls. Life with Shanann must have been sheer panic (knowing they will fall apart from all her stupidity and trying to make it half-way decent for them)
I couldn't even watch all this...seeing those babies SO WELL BEHAVED and being so patient and getting nothing in return but disappointment..it hurts to see this...Rest in peace sweet precious angels...you deserved the whole world..I pray you are not missing out on anything now ..safely in the arms of God🥰
Its so refreshing to see so many comments from people calling out SW behaviour with her girls & paying attention, rather than taking what they heard from news reports & just going with that. This was rare to see at the beginning of this case. People like me just being attacked for the same things being noticed in these videos. People on here are discussing the case rather than attacking each other....Thank you
They both weren't feeling well in this one. Do not be surprised if children with a cold, cough, and if they are over a cookie dough bowl, they will cough over & into it also. Not a day for them to feel up to participating. Very sad.
I used pity her, but the more I know the I pity the girls and Chris. He was a great Dad and expressed over and over he didn't want to lose he girls. It is hard for me to reconcile his confession.
@@cecelialenore5576 no I don’t. She already said she didn’t want the baby she was carrying. Women do crazy things when their pregnant. And if you already suffer mental issues it does happen.
What is that for a cookie? They poured sugar, than more brown sugar and flour... ??? Anyways... These videos are so painful to watch. But also very informative and eye-opening. Thanks!
I can tell by one look at those kids that they aren't happy. The strained smiles they always seem to have. And why does Bella have shirt hair? I don't know any young girl that would allow her hair to be chopped off. But you never know...
Bella’s hair was cut short by her mother. She told her teacher that she dreamed of long hair. The photos of her at school show a bunch of little girls with long hair. They all have braids and ponytails
I'm a single dad and this video and her actions are horrible...ignoring her little ones like that...I always and I mean ALWAYS let my kids in on the action when they wanted to help do anything with me, never forced them to do anything, when they were done they were done and free to go play or do what they wanted. When we would bake cookies they always had a small batch of their own to play with and make shapes, and on easter mixing colors for eggs however they wanted. The best way they learn is hands on and they feel part of doing something. Dads can do it too..not just moms. My kids always help me do any project with me if they want to, I love telling people and showing off the parts my kids worked on.
@@vickihazelwood4003 Vicki, if your 25 year old future daughter in law lived in a 500, 000.00 house, wouldn't you be suspicious as to how she aquired it. Also, if your future daughter in law told your son to drive 3 hours back home to pick up costumes and drive them back to the birthday party, would you not wander what was up with this woman
How many people have videos of themselves telling their kids what to say over and over like puppets? These were commercials. Her kids were exploited as props. You never see them happily playing with toys while she is making things with morsels. Cece sounds terribly congested, doesn't seem to want to be sitting up there at all...so sad. Bit they say she was the best mom they had ever seen...???
God knows I need work, and some days I try harder than others, Jesus helps me through those days. That being said, messes like that can get me anxious at times. But I know myself well enough to know that I wouldn't have asked my little ones to help if I couldn't handle it. Make the cookies yourself, and then have them pick their favorite one to eat in front of your audience. Asking them to be there to be scolded and reprimanded every time they reach for something to help is mean. It makes me sad because you can tell with the girls behaviors that that happened often. And if you do want them to help, give them each a bowl with some flour in it and have them mix it with a spoon, then have them add it in when the time is right. It really shouldn't be complicated. For anyone reading this, it's ok to not be perfect.
You're so right.. It's funny you bring that up because for the first time I noticed something like that in video I'm editing -- she keeps her eyes but locked on the camera (audience) while she reaches tight-lipped for the baby monitor (that she shuts off) on which Cece could be heard "waking up".. This is the narcissism that sees the 'value' of the audience but not of the dependent. During the comforting it hints at insincerity and superficiality, also that maddening 'oh these kids' high-brow look..
@@thought-provokingvideos5464 I believed the narrative , now I'm not so sure , there is def something wrong with SW.Thank you for allowing free speech a rare thing these days !
What I get from both Chris and the girls is a response to narc behavior called fawning, appeasing the dominant person so as to gain approval/stay out of trouble. Would CW have been truthful in his first confession, yet later take the blame for all the deaths because he believed in honoring her memory? just my thoughts..
If your comment is to detract from Shanann's very problematic ways with the girls by referring to Chris Watts' convictions, save yourself some time because I'll erase your comment to clear up senseless noise. Anyway, most people here believe Chris did not even kill his girls (see other videos on this channel for substantiation). I'll also erase all declarations that no one is allowed to analyze the problematic behavior of a person said to be deceased, which when done professionally is an aspect of "Forensic Psychiatry" (so don't be ridiculous).
@@orangecat6870 Awful! imo these are paid trolls, and some of them can't even fake their hateful attitudes towards children. The ONLY times I've seen ugly stuff written about Bella has been from a "Shiner".
@@susanprimavera1312 Maybe you need help regarding your rudeness. Bella didn't do anything in this video to desrve a spanking. Um, okayyy. I don't even believe in children being hit or swatted, yet, I am accused of agreeing to children being murdered . Well. doesn't that make a whole lot of sense.....not
@@patriciapearl2529 That Santa video could be used in a graduate class for the purposes of demonstrating how a parent’s wants & needs are primary. Good GRIEF that video is atrocious.
@@Felicity2121 Yes and Bella stated to the baby sitter that she was afraid that Ce Ce would die from eating coconut. Poor Bella was always afraid that her little sister would die or be taken away😥
@@thought-provokingvideos5464 I wonder how much was just a show. Some of the only consistent facts are inconsistencies. Staged all together Fully set up, or set up patsy? I see degrading to him and the girls as a common pattern.
It really pisses me off how she is only worried about her stupid audience and forces her kids to be a part of her madness. These kids don't want to keep saying "hi" to a computer screen!!
Exactly!!! Every two seconds she like “say hi, say hi, girls say hi, bella say hi to yahnitta banana” 😂 “say hi” and “thrive” are her favorite things to say.
Shanann is not a very engaging person so I her videos failed all the way around.
The girls were the only patient ones in the room. Bella showed tons of tolerance before breaking down. This was very damaging to the girls, very sad. She and Chris CAUSED the girls to be crying in the end, they don't even realize what they've neglected to do, shameful.
All for Thrive and, Shannan. 😑😥😢💔💔
What they should of done never had one kid
Why would she even post this? Did she really think this was a good look for her or her stupid thrive products?
Not cece, that kid did nothing but scream. Both kids seemed delayed to me.
How many times did these kids have to say hi to strangers. Weird
It was always “Say Hi” okay “Say Bye” mean while Bella is looking Miserable and Hating every second that camera is in her face
Honestly. I hated this with my own cousins in other countries I barely saw and that was family. At least that was in person and not a phone shoved in my 3 year old face. Poor babies
@@angelwings7930 Especially when her live videos didn’t go as perfect as she wanted them to be 😒 What bothered me the Most was the Constant Teasing with those Pro’Bars , Bella would be So Hungry and Shanann would keep telling her to hold on meanwhile eating it infront of her telling her viewers how amazing they are and then she would tell Bella to smell them but not even give her a bite and you could hear her whining and desperation from Pure Hunger 😒😔 I don’t know if you ever noticed but Cece always had a Sippy Cup, Food or Snack and Bella “Nothing” Cece Looked Healthy While Bella Looked Under Weight and really sick, Bella use to get so excited to go to her grandparents house because she knew she’d get to eat more over there than she could ever eat at home ….
@@missyann7588 you are exactly right !💯%
How the heck is that weird
She creates their stress and crying...then fake hugs them...;(
Agreed❤
all so she can reiterate “it’s craziness over here…” Just like the dumb twat planned. well done, Bossmom
Her kids & husband were props in her never-ending fictional movie
@@EccoLivingLife as I said before there's no excuse for his horriffic actions but this story is a microcosm of what's wrong with the world today. Weak men that lack communication, problem solving skills, her extreme narcicissm and abuse of her kids & him that went unchecked for years, mlm scams, people pretending to have the perfect lives for attention on social media, affairs etc....there are many lessons to be learned & that doesn't happen when you just look at the end result
I can’t believe you people are doing this for real and are not baiting, I refuse to believe that someone cannot see how awfully narcissistic and abusive was Chris and they will rather blame responsible and confident Shanann for what happend there, for me - you easily should be in prison with him
@@czerkitka141 she was far from responsible
@@jviolet6910 no one is justifying his horriffic actions but the truth matters
It disgusts me hearing her say, "Love you guys" over and over to these NOBODYS on the computer but not to her kids!!!!
This comment made me realize I’ve never heard her say “love you” to the girls in all of the vids I’ve seen of her.
@@kittybelly she doesn't. She acted like her kids were just part of the big show. Chris seemed disgusted with it too.
This was so unnatural. Staged for her thrive customers hoping to portray a ideal family activity. Looking at all the perfect appliances and big kitchen it’s sad to think they were broke.
But the girls were not happy at all.
No one in their right mind watching this doesn’t get the awkwardness of it.
That's like she got that knew refrigerator that was just to have stainless steel
Seeing Bella gripping her hands and touching her face after being told no is exactly what I would do as a kid when my parent berated me. I felt that all over again. Poor girls. Parenting is hard but those details don't lie, they were probably told "NO" constantly
Poor you..
So was I and I am fine. You can’t always have everything you want.
Shannan hated every minute of this. She’s such a control freak. She was trying her hardest to keep it together and put up the front that she enjoys “teaching them” how to do stuff.
That's a joke
As a preschool and pre kin teacher I did many cooking projects with 15 children all having a turn . This is just a photo op. Poor little ones did not get to interact with any ingredients or baking utensils.
Yes, and built-up + children's literal need to play, use their bodies, watching her = psychological torture.
Same here, it’s so fun and engaging. These poor girls had a very sad life.
I don't think they had a sad life I think they had a very good life the girls did anyway. They were going to school so it was obviously preschool which is not required in most States and it costs money. I don't imagine they were on Head Start which is free.
@@leslieolsondyersdynamicadv2918 I think they were drugged to sleep every night and literally locked in their rooms at 6:30. This is not a good life for any child.
@@Black_Cadillac I honestly think the dad was giving him drugs before bed not the mom. Maybe a little antifreeze
Such a control freak. Remind me of my abusive step mother where I couldn't do anything right.
The oldest baby girl had severe anxiety.
Yes, Bella looked sad all the time. 😢 She rarely seemed to be enjoying herself and when she did seem happy, she would become sad or have an all out emotional breakdown at the drop of a hat. No child is supposed to have breakdowns like that. There were triggers in her environment that often made her sad, hence her trichotillomania. Anyone, adult or child, who is pulling out patches of their hair is emotionally disturbed. Doctors believe pulling out hair is a way of dealing with negative or uncomfortable feelings, such as stress, anxiety, tension, boredom, loneliness, extreme tiredness and frustration. It’s clear from Shanann’s videos that Bella was experiencing all of the above. Shannan made it worse by telling her things such as if CeCe eats coconuts, she will never wake up again. That’s probably not something you should tell a three or four-year-old.
This is extremely disturbing and sad. I thought I was the only one noticing from what I saw about the case that the whole 'online lives' of these children was a form of abuse. Bella and Cece didnt get the chance to do anything.
Indeed
Totally true. Shannan was abusive towards the children And Chris. Good example is the video of Chris as Santa Claus.
These poor kids had crappy life brutal end. So sad.
First time I heard about this case was from the Netflix documentary and when I first watched it I thought it was extremely weird she was always posting what seemed to be EVERYTHING on social media. All the live streams etc. it’s like she just wanted all the attention from everyone. She wanted everyone to see her “picture perfect life” terrible that she and the two babies were murdered. There is no justification for that action from CW but the fact that SW may have been abusive and a narcissist to her family can not be over looked.
@@VIPviveeCastillo69 some kids don't like long hair or hate having hair brushed don't judge.
I think shanann completely destroyed those little girls. Poor Bella was so sad all the time. They were not allowed to be kids. Very sad.
Not to mention destroyed their Liver. You cannot give high does of liquid Night time Tylenol to kids every single afternoon before naps and every night before bed without it doing major damage to their little organs.
I hate how she always acts embarrassed about what her girls do
@@lesliekupchanko5001 oh i see! I have a lot of feelings about how she acted towards her family. I dont like it either
@@magicmoney9653 she seemed so awkward. It's shocking how much people care about other people's opinions more than their kids' feelings
That’s the worst part! I’m sure Bella and CeCe were acutely aware of her comments about “it’s crazy here”…”monsters”… and etc. Those poor angels had a short life and so much stress
@@chartroy that's what I thought also
@@2030bhusak i know you're being facetious.. if not, tell me what u mean if u have a sec. Im just curious
It looks like Chris is just trying to keep the girls from irritating her. If she had no patience she should of did it alone.
Geez let them play and make a mess. It can be cleaned.
Her video title was even clickbait, abusing Bella and Cece to get views How sad. Even terrible for Chris.
It's so sad to see them get frustrated to the point of bella breaking down! And SW acts as if it's totally random like she hasn't been ignoring and blocking them from doing anything interesting. SW just staring into the stupid camera while bella cries seems so unnatural!
Right. And somehow she thinks this is a good ad for Thrive like look it helps me deal with these "monsters". No, you treated them terribly so they were constantly in distress
i hate how shannann didn’t let the girls do like... anything. i was a babysitter for years and worked with kids and i get it, some things you just really have to do yourself and sometimes theres too many kids to give everyone something, but at least give them an empty bowl to play with and copy you!! or like the tiniest tasks like, ‘please can you clean up the flour off the table?’ or ANYTHING.
but baking with kids who are that age is FUN AS HECK no need to get my hands dirty when the kids will literally do ANYTHING just out of excitement hahahah
The part where they were just waiting and she yanked away the giant metal bowl right past Cece's face, and how they looked... Says it all.
If she only knew the source of joy she had with her.. beyond the photo ops.
@@karaa7595 how do u not know how to bake cookies with your kids? I thought everybody knew how to do that let them stir and lick the spoon lick the bowl done. Glad I could help a little.
The dad had made more money the mom wouldn't have to work so hard please consider that as a factor
She was emotionally abusive towards Bella, disgusting to watch.
Why did she even have them there? Either do it herself for the views or do it for the kids to have fun. They were miserable
Her Antisocial Personality Disorder meant she EXPLOITED people MAXIMALLY. That meant the girls were there to say dozens of "hi's" to do kissy-lips to the camera OR to appear "wild" and "impossible" (ergo mom has to take THRIVE) when they inevitably cried from lame-a** treatment.
@@thought-provokingvideos5464 so right
@@thought-provokingvideos5464 I know, I sadly feel like her girls and perhaps even Chris were always just 'props' in her videos to make her look good and portray a certain image. It is sad how social media has created so much of this narcissism or maybe just amplified it. What happened to these girls breaks my heart.
No, I dont want chocolate. I want to feel like I MATTER.
@Lisa Hunt Perfect
SAY HI
They seems to always be told to stop what they are doing or talking about to "say hi!" to the camera. To people they didn't even see or new.....🙄
I am very sad to say that Shanann was a tyrant. Control, control, control. Let your girls have a little messy fun once in awhile. Shanann always had to do everything her way! Also, is she filming a cooking show? Why can’t you organically just have a nice collective time together. It is always a show for her, mothering comes second. Shanann is so self involved. What child wants to say hi a million times to a camera when trying to make cookies.
There’s controlling people in this world.
Then there’s murderers that kill their partner and kids. I won’t ever understand people who try and deflect.
My comment was clearly stating the actions of Shanann. I will never ever agree or try to justify the actions of someone taking the lives of others!
Agreed
@@Wisdom-Nuggets-Tid-Bits she made him snap
Jennifer. No, he CHOSE to snap. That said, I think Shannan was a poor excuse for a mother.
I think everyone in Shanann's life was scared of her. I'm sure when she didn't get her way she was Hell to deal with. Her parents were actually watching this disaster unfold but didn't say anything?? Chris was in the back ground trying to appease the situation so Shanann wouldn't go off...I'm sure everyone in this woman's life walked on egg shells around her. The only person who ever stood up to her bad behavior was Chris' mom and look what happened there... Shanann blocked her from their lives. Shanann was a nightmare and Chris and the girls were living in it.
painful to watch
So so so sad to see how disconnected and emotionally abusive she was to the poor girls. With both parents its like they didn't stand a chance!
What could’ve been really fun for everyone, turned out to be an awful experience for the the little girls. How sad.
Wait What? I've yet to see a video of SW interacting with her family that isn't fraught with underlying tension, fear & despair. And all are supposed to be "fun" videos, "heart-warming". They chill me to the bone. Think about the videos you've seen of other people posting something cute their child does---you find yourself smiling unconsciously. Now what expression is on your face when you watch these?
Depressing
Facts she was never motherly at all. Everything was for the camera , say hi Bella, say hi Cece I feel so bad for them babies their whole lifes were bad. Shannan got so annoyed with her kids even when she didn't have a babysitter or have her kids in daycare she still couldn't put the fake social life away and just be a dam mom. Poor babies.
Oh boo hoo for them. I've had much worse experiences with my family than baking cookies. Sure the girls were used as pawns in Shanann's infinate quest to show off her "perfect" her family is but atleast they weren't being abused or neglected.
@@fruff30 this is mental abuse. Those babies are confused and distressed and she couldn't give a damn. All these videos show what a horrible mum she was. Abuse doesn't have to be physical.
My mom flipped me like Shanann did. Narcs care about two things. Money & Power. I’d add themselves but they’ve got that covered. I used to give this beast grace and then I woke up to my entire existence thus far on our planet. My mom is her. Now my empathy goes to far away places thinking about how those two Angels felt during… When you *buse a child you create a psychic. We are growing up now, awakening essentially and here to help so situations like this never happen again.
Its very sad how she treated the girls. Also, she was too lazy to do cici's hair, always putting it into that goofy looking one pony on the top of her head. She was an extremely bad Mom.
She - Shannon completely cut Bella‘s hair off… So she didn’t have to deal with it
Was looking for some content about Bellas hair, chopped off to look like a boy while mom flaunts her long locks
I hope you all have your informations right before slandering a dead woman and her children. Because these comments are kinda disgusting to read. Where do you have the information that she cut Cece’s hair as a punishment? I’d like to see if it’s true.
And I agree that she spent waaaay too much time on social media (although I know it was her job), and yes she should definitely have treated her girls better/not talked to them the way she did and make them feel more involved. But having said that, it’s hard to 100% judge people from a few videos. To me those girls looked well taken care of and no parent is perfect. Take it from someone who grew up with an alcoholic father that didn’t take care of, abused and neglected his children in every kind of way you can imagine.
@@Sakurajuju3501 well said I agree
At least she wasn't chopping Ceces hair "every month" apparently with her eyes closed. She had her own hair done perfectly each day...during one of her many quiet times while the girls were locked up like flowers in the attic...
Happy to come across your channel. I truly thought I was the only one that saw these things. I was horrified to hear that Shannan got the girls up, dressed and off to 9 hours of "school" then Chris picked them up, played with, fed them dinner, baths and in bed by 7 PM. They locked them in their rooms with loud noise machines. Shannan treated Chris and the girls terribly and even got posses when she had to watch them for 5 hours all alone...gasp while in N.C. She seems like an over spending attention who're to me. I don't know what happened but I'm definitely checking out your other videos on them. Thanks!!
@@angieholt736 is there a reason why she couldn't be alone with the girls?
@@angieholt736 what video was this
Those kids spent 12 hours a day in their bed/rooms. They were put to bed @ 6:30. While the rest of the neighborhood is out walking dogs, riding bikes, playing etc. Blackout curtains, sound machines and the nightly medicating them so they weren't aware the rest of the world didn't live like that and she didn't have to deal with them. Absolute abuse and insanity
I do think they look quite unwell and before I started researching this I assumed it was from their many "illnesses". I never watched the live streams and my knowledge came from the Netflix documentary. Further investigation has change my perspective on this. Something was very wrong and I truly believe CW did not kill the girls.
@@themodernmystic426 Sound machines?
When my kids were this age , I use to bake sugar cookies and let my kids decorate them while I baked the next batch. They had fun and felt they were helping. That being said the way the girls reacted when corrected reminded me of my own upbringing. I grew up with a Narcissistic mother. You were constantly walking on egg shells. As a child if I did anything she deemed was wrong , I could feel myself whelp with emotion. My lips trembled like I saw on Bella's face. The look of " She's going to scream at us" on CeCe's face. Meanwhile Chris is playing the role of camera man and is too afraid to rock the boat, so he doesn't say a word, just like my dad. My dad just wanted peace and never to upset my mom because when you did, it was hell on Earth for the next few days.
I'm sure they were not rhis age
Did your dad murder your mom?!
@Jaden’s GiGi.
That's a ridiculous question and I think you know that.
What point were you trying to force?
Yes indeed. I grew up with a narcissistic mother too.
You're telling my story, the story of a lot of people here, I think. My father always gave me money behind my mother's back to salve his conscience. As I got older, I realized that in a way he was just buying himself peace, sacrificing me to my mother and compensating me with money. I found that very odd.
However, later, when I was older, I was able to talk to him about it and he was/is very sorry for everything. My mom still thinks she's the best mom/wife in the world and that we're just ungrateful.
It seems Bella always got the worst of it.
treated like she wasn’t even there in this video, of course until she started to have a breakdown and then she gets all the attn telling her pipe down, as if she shouldn’t have been sad about being treated like complete shit. those two numbskulls had zero clue how to parent. just awful.
Bella breaks my heart. Sham'wow abused those poor girls, you can see it on Bella's face.
But Celeste too was so disappointed. They both suffered.
absolutely without a doubt. I've never cried so hard over a true crime case as I have this one.
well that ended in a mess just them crying instead of being happy and proud of what they made at the end says it all for me
She didn't let them make anything
This isn’t the only video where SW drives her children to hysterics, then she can play Mother of the Year to her audience and coddle and kiss them because they need her oh so much. ‘See how hard my life is?’ But in this video, Bella actually pushes away those comforting arms and motherly bosom. She had been led through this tired act way too often and she knew her mother wasn’t sincere; mother was patronizing. Also in this video Bella loses it and breaks down around 12:15, seemingly out of nowhere. That household was fraught with tension.
@@CH-qy5sn C’mon the moment she mentioned Thrive you knew dam well who and what the video was for …
Shanann feels humiliated bc in her mind, Bella has ruined her perfect movie. The answer is to now humiliate Bella at 16:25 by telling CeCe to show off her pigtails. Bella is self conscious about her lack of her hair. In one video, Bella says No twice, clearly communicating that she does not want to sing Holly Jolly Christmas. In the most heartbreaking moment, Shannan exploits Bella’s insecurity about her hair w a bribe, saying if you do it, I’ll get you some hair clips. At the end of this video, Shanann punishes Bella for having a breakdown by making the comment about CeCe’s pigtails, which she knows will upset Bella. That’s covert child abuse.
These poor kids...it breaks my heart poor Bella was always so sad and defeated
yes, it's so plain to see and all the Shan worshippers call her "spoiled". They actually believe that. I can't believe they do. It makes me worried about their own children.
I can imagine what was going on after that camera was turned off… no more fake smiles, no more “warm” hugs.. those poor girls
Upstairs dark rooms
@@sandrabreedlove3661
That is exactly what I thought ! Locked into their dark bedrooms again ! It makes one want to scream!
I bet Scam'nann was having nutgate tier meltdowns every night
Annoys me soooo bad when she says “alright then, no chocolates for you” poor Bella
As someone with a chronic illness with no cure, like Shannan claimed to also have, while I watch this I find myself getting so irritated, bordering on angry. I wish I could have baked more cookies with my children when they were this age. I had maybe a couple instances of a good enough day to share this kind of thing with my kids. I was both in too much pain and too deeply exhausted to stand up or even sit up long enough to have the chance she had to do something special with her kids. When she had the opportunity, her face is stuck in a damn camera and her “audience” are her priority. Also, I am angered by how she uses a non-existent illness to sell her Thrive shit but can do everything BUT have the patience to spend time with her kids. When you have a legitimate illness that you see treatment for (in her case, Thrive), you are in too much pain, and too exhausted to “have it all”, even on the surface. Your house is a mess, you are a mess, you apologize for rhe state of things around you because you simply cannot do it all. Parents who have a chronic illness will sacrifice a clean house to spend your better days with your children. She did NOT have an illness that caused her significant issues and lets say that Thrive did cure or well-control chronic illnesses, wouldn’t everyone of us be prescribed that for our own? Wouldn’t every doctor be prescribing Thrive to droves of people? Wouldn’t drug companies be making billions by making their own version of Thrive?! She was toxic. She couldn’t deal with her kids long enough to bake cookies AND she embellished a minor health issue to push an expensive shake onto people desperate for something to make their lives bearable. I’d eat dog shit if it would take away the pain and fatigue I feel 24/7 and do more with my kids but it does not exist. That she ruined the short time she had with her kids by focusing on selling that snake oil makes me furious. No, CW shouldn’t have killed her and those beautiful girls, that’s not questioned. But that woman was no angel and because she was murdered didn’t transform her i to one after death either. I really feel so much pity for those little girls. They had a horrific death and they weren’t treasured while they were alive either, they were just used to sell crap. It’s so, so sad.
Couldn’t agree more… 😢
Me too! I would have given anything to make cookies with my son. I used to crawl on the kitchen floor to make him dinner! This is why people deny you are ill because of her crap! Especially male Drs.
Dumb. Those poor girls thought they were going to be helping rather than just being greeters n props WOW
Another one of Shannon lies to the girls have them excited for nothing that was normal for her
Somewhere a psychology professor is using these videos to educate students about narcissism. Do MLMers really make these sorts of videos for each other? For what reason? Repeatedly SW sets up situations on camera where she forces her children to cry, and then she can pretend to comfort them. And what went on when the cameras were off? This tense, debt-ridden household was clearly headed for disaster.
They were due in family court shortly after the tragedy, where allegations of abuse are dealt with. Chris was in the process of getting out, this would have been great for the girls. Most basic mental health care worker would have seen that it was the leaving of her partner/enabler (plus everything else crashing down around her -- that morning she tried to buy hair care products but her credit card(s) was full.) that is most likely to trigger a violent narcissistic rage...
By the way, thank you!
@@thought-provokingvideos5464 The thing is, if she did kill the children, he could have just called the authorities. Even if he killed her out of anger. It would have been understood. There’s so much that does make sense, then it doesn’t, then it does…..Chris initially did say that she killed the children. But how could she have done that between 2:00 am and the time he left at 6 am? He was in the house with her. He wouldn’t have let her do that. Unless…she waited for him to sleep and then slipped them something and told him? But then why would he change his story later and say he suffocated them at the oil site? Just stuff is not adding up.
All of her “fun events” upset the kids
Shanann (Whose real name is Shannon... she even lied about her name) had no patience with these girls. Everything that happened in that house was the SHANANN SHOW. She never cared if the girls were having fun. It was all about Shanann!! Those poor kids were nothing more than a prop for this controlling woman. Chris can't even make a decision as small as if Cece can have a spoon... The downfall of this family was Shanann. Chris was pushed and pushed till he snapped. Yes, he should spend the rest of his life in prison for killing the girls but I think the killing of Shanann was caused by years of emotional abuse and of him being degraded. He didn't have an identity anymore. He was Shanann's puppet and prop...
There was absolutely zero point in this live at all! She has two children under the age of 5 wanting to get involved and all she cared about were the viewers and the children saying hi to the camera. Absolutely nuts! You have got to be joking if you seriously think it’ll be an easy breezy relaxing baking session with two children under 5?! Where she does everything, and explains nothing, this was just all a mess. was very uncomfortable to watch to say the least
My exact thoughts!
You never see toys in their rooms either. When my son was that age there were toys all over the floors!! My house was clean, but messy. I let my son play in my spice rack when I cooked. He looked forward to it every day. I don’t understand people who live their lives on live streams. Who the hell watched her every time she went live?? These people are all nuts. Who wants to watch another family baking together? I’d feel weird watching that. I mean, I kinda do right now.
Awesome video. I am loving these psychology videos analyzing her. I am glad I’m not the only one who saw how problematic she was
She was self-evidently an emotionally abusive parent. The true history of this case will never be It's obvious that there has been a massive cover-up by the authorities so you have to ask yourself why....
@@bevbeans3166 that's exactly what I want to know. Is there any way that we can petition to have this case reexamined? I just can't seem to let it go!!
@@bevbeans3166 IMO it could be a murd3r su!side? Just assessing every angle. Sm0ther Revenge is common in abusive mothers who are being divorced and set to lose everything. Her Thrive facade was up...
I love making cookies with my kids. They make a mess of course but the smiles and the laughs is what makes the cookies good. This broke my heart.
yeah love cooking with mine in general good relashionship bonding
Agreed thats the whole point
@@kimmcguire1557 lol true
I don’t find too much weirdness here. Maybe shanann was just in a hurry or something. Was it set up as a learning activity for the kids or was she really trying to get cookies made.
@@esta1ful I’ve just seen too many videos where Bella will state she’s hungry and Shanann would eat in front of her and tease her with food. Bribe her to say things to her ‘audience’. Honestly it all became way too hard to watch. There was some definite issues there.
It would be easy to not see what's really going on here, But once you analysed it so well, It's so clear and hard to watch to the end. Poor kids.
This channel is biased and against Shannan. It’s not to say that she was perfect but deleting any comments that doesn’t go with this channel’s narrative just proves they are looking for ways to blame the victim.
@@alexrose8299 the only comments that get deleted are abusive ones. Yours hasn't been because you are polite even though you don't agree with the viewpoint of the channel creator
@@raquellambropoulos279 the channel creator doesn't believe CW killed his daughters so you're barking up the wrong tree
@@alexrose8299 No - only comments where those of us that believe something different than the mainstream narrative of what happened are yelled at that we condone what happened to Shanann and the girls or that we are justifying it or victim-blaming. Those comments are emotional drivel that do not contribute to the larger debate at all or the peaceful sharing of opinions. It's literally just people that most likely know very little if anything about this case flipping out and saying we support the murder of children and women because we don't subscribe to the belief that Chris is the one that killed Bella and Celeste. It's not far fetched to anyone that would take the time and actually hear the arguments from both sides and weigh them against each other. Or prove me wrong.
@@alexrose8299 This channel doesn't condone child abuse which SW was clearly uploading.
This is sickening. Shanann treated her children like stage props. She spent the entire time interacting with the camera while either ignoring her children or thwarting their natural desire to "help mommy". The grand finale is after she's finished & the frustrated children are actually having a meltdown Shanann declares that she's going to spend the rest of the day running around shopping.
I think you're 100% correct; she had a personality disorder. She shows so many disturbing character traits that I don't see how it could be otherwise. I'm not a psychologist but the vast amount of video & other evidence you've gathered makes her personality disorder so obvious that it doesn't take a psychologist to see it. It's not borderline. It's obvious. *Thank You for making & sharing your excellent videos.*
@@laguerita289 A woman who could treat her children with the cruelty recorded in these videos does *not* have a "beautiful" spirit. I pray the innocent children are at peace but I feel much less sorry for their mother.
@@irinamariatracy7300 Apparently, you replied without reading my entire comment(s) where I described baking with my own three children.
Shame on you for making excuses for *child abuse* . That cruel $h*t show of Shannan using her children as props for her video should never have happened. She wasn't baking *with* them; she was using them to make a PR video. Those poor girls weren't enjoying themselves & ended up in a crying meltdown because of their mother's narcissistic behavior.
Judging from your tone & your shouting [all caps] it's obvious which one of us should get a life.
@@laguerita289 "Our" hearts?? Are you two or more people? Speak for yourself because you don't speak for me. Watching these videos of Shannan mistreating her children made me sick. I feel for the poor children but if there's a just God, I don't think Shannan is resting in peace. She mistreated her children & ruined the family financially. I think she has a lot to answer for.
@@laguerita289 There's so much idiocy in your comment that I'm going to have to tackle it, point by point.
a)Are you trying to tell me that Shannan's *ghost* has been speaking to her mother? If you believe that, then you're credulous, indeed & I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.
b)"People like you are the problem." .... What problem is that? Please explain. (But don't tell me that Shannan's ghost is telling you I'm a problem. Please stick to facts.)
c) "Let this woman & children Rest in Peace Jesus." ???
My goodness, *you just told me* that "Shannan is resting well" so what on earth are you talking about? In any case, do you actually believe that commenting on a UA-cam video is going to disturb those children in heaven? Or their mother.... wherever *she* is?
d) I've *already* watched the video .... So why are you telling me not to watch it? In fact, why are you telling me to do *anything* ? Do you think you can make random people on UA-cam do whatever you command? Lol
e) Finally, my name isn't "Jesus" .... Or are you taking the Lord's name in vain, in the same sentence that you're talking about "Resting in Peace" ??
@@laguerita289 Shannan is mistreating her children *in this video* . Using your children as props for a PR video while neglecting & frustrating them to the point that they have an emotional meltdown is *abuse* .
Emotional abuse is as cruel as physical abuse.
You've admitted that Shannan had a personality disorder. Well, clearly she was in the process of creating personality disorders in her daughters.
You brilliantly observe and analyse bad parenting, this is so distressing to watch, the emotional neglect .... I’d like the creators of Instagram to see what a monster they’ve created in the ‘monetisation’ of social media and the narcissistic craving for likes. Mother seems more concerned with projecting an mage..
Watch the social dilemma
Yes she does, this is so heartbreaking to watch, as the girls look so interested and ready to just get stuck in, especially CeCe with her little bowl and spoon, God love her!. When she said CECE (meaning stop cece) that little darling was so ready to be given an instruction to mix, add this, or be asked to put something in her bowl and she got nothing!@! This woman was so self obsessed, it was a crime how she bought them girls up. When Bella looks forlorn at the end it breaks my heart to watch that. There is no mothering from saint Shannan AT ALL! All dhe can do is bark all orders when they do get to measure some flour in (chris encourages the girls all the way through but seems very scared to tell Scaman that she is not including them enough, the wet lettuce that he is) Also dont get me started on the say hi, say hi, say hi, say hi, like the thrive robot, she became....so God damn annoying. All shiners must think this is ok, it is not OK!!! When she said," I am glad I thrive" what so she can annoy and ignore her children. As she thinks they were the problem, not her. Ah well well both CeCe and Bella are showing the shiner lot how ok it was,they should have been able to mix the mix themselves, roll out the cookie dough and cut out cookies then show pop pop, nana and mimi and papa their spoils later, but no just get offered a small bowl of facking chocolate chips, she says " I dont know why I chose to go live".....errrrr neither to I, but I strongly suspect it was to make HER look good to all the weirdo STRIVERS. RIP with the Angel's you sweet, sweet girls xxx
@@verityking6965 I agree with you. Bella did not want chocolate chips or marshmellows or yet another sugar laden sweet. She wanted to stir the cookie dough and participate. Poor Bella was so frustrated and confused
@@orangecat6870 Right...her little hands fluttering over her cheeks in frustration...just heartbreaking 💔
@@KaraLynnJack I know..poor child
How could people, her friends or just media followers, who ever saw videos like this cookie making say she was "ammmaaazing mom"??? She was god-awful mom! Terrible!
🎯
This video was all about Shannan being a super mom, not about the kids enjoying something. Bella always looks so sad. Her whole live is a Thrive commercial.
she always tried too hard.. it's pathetic. I don't care if she got murdered. I'd always stay away from people like her
I wish somebody told her to stop this good family drama and actually look after those poor kids .
She had serious personality dysfunctions and maybe other issues ... Can't just fix that, but I know what you mean ... Children deserve so much more quality attention and less toxic "attention"
She DIDN’T KNOW HOW!!! That’s the point!
But she’s thriving! No time for that
I can’t believe no one ever called her out for these livestreams. There’s one with the protein bar and Bella that really shook me up. She kept teasing the poor child with it, saying how yummy it was and never giving Bella a bite. Of course it ended with Bella in tears and shannan gaslighting her.
She did have a few people mention on her FB lives, she called them 'Haters'.... More like they were doing their duty of care to stand up for those innocent kids when nobody else did.
The kids were way to young for this. Do age appropriate activities for Pete's sake. Those children were behaving like normal kids not wild.
Actually in the video I point out that it's quite do-able at those ages, but this was done so selfishly there was no way it could go well. Shanann was inappropriate with all the activities she did with her girls.
I tried this activity with my boys when they were a bit older but their child size table so the could have the stuff near them. Ok, so I had flour an sugar on the floor, but that is what vacuum cleaners are for. The kids had fun but we changed over to home made play doe after that. Nice to sink your little hands into and make animals out of it. Then let it dry and paint it, use glitter (vacuum cleaner again). Also make ashtrays and hand prints and give as gifts.
She would over exaggerate or flat out lie about her children ALOT! For the only few hours a day that they were awake, they were called "monster" or "Wild, messy monsters, then showed Bella and Celeste just sitting and staring at her like most of us are doing while watching her "thrive" promotions
@@patriciapearl2529 I had one, we made a cake with a lightbulb. I had so much fun with my grandma!
@Dolores Behrman I agree. So disconnected from the children's needs and desires....infuriating
Shannan is an absolute nightmare to behold. Controlling , self serving and totally oblivious to Bella and Ce Ce. I saw one small clip of her Mother Sandra apparently 'teaching' little Bella to make 'pigs in blankets' she was similarly controlling, and couldn't just let the sweet child have a go without sticking her own hands in. What a toxic pair . Shannon and Sandra.
Yep, I think scam'nann inherited her narcissism from her mother
I really appreciate your message at the end about fighting the narcissist within. I watched this interaction and know that I was guilty of some of this behavior when my kids were little. I wonder if I would have spotted it if I had a chance to watch it back on video. If only we could go back in time. Your commentary is eye opening. Thank you so much.
Omg Patricia. Im 44 with an 18 yo daughter and 14 yo son. I feel like you. I wish I could've been a better mom to them when they were little =(
@@texastea5686 Hugs! Its never too late, though. I think the realization and acceptance is important. Best of luck to you!
No parent is perfect all the time. I’m sure that if you had recorded all your actions then, you would have found more natural, warm and thoughtful interactions that you don’t recall! SW was foolish enough not only to record all her ugly behavior, but to post at all online! [Did she really think her Facebook friends wanted to watch every moment of SW’s scintillating life?] Again, I can’t believe how often SW snaps at these poor kids. “It’s CRAZINESS here!”
@@annmeyer2854 Thank you so much... that was a really wonderful thing to say! I'm going to believe that it's true. And so true about SW and her FB, yikes.
Hello! Omg your comment almost made me cry 😢 I have a 8 year old son and I think I was like that at times when he was younger. Don’t get me wrong I love him more than anything! But I have to recognize that I have the tendency to stress easily, maybe I need to chill a little more, but never too late like you said!
Ifyou don’t mind me asking you, did your kids were seriously affected by this behavior?
This video is terrible. Shanann was a horrible horrible mother and wife. Those poor kids...they break my heart, especially little Bella.
Shanann and is a ridiculous excuse for a mother. If she thought she was a good mother in ANY way shape or form, she was SADLY mistaken. SADLY!!!!
I don't think she really cared
It’s interesting Bella is the one who looks most like Chris and she has a very sweet sensitive soul but if she doesn’t do everything just right ( just like how the furniture has to be ) then she’s scolded . It’s really quite tragic
She gave them chocolate chips in the morning just to shut them up....!!!! That a very bad recipe for cookies, my goodness that much sugar its not good. Why put them on the stream and said WE are making cookies, when she was the the only one doing stuff, barely makes the little girls participate, why this torture
Also when there dressed in football all day nope upstairs
lol no shit the girls are upset. shannann could have done a live video of her making perfect cookies by herself and let the girls go play so that they'd actually have something to do. instead they're told to just watch and make duck faces at the camera with their completely inappropriate lipstick.
Exactly... My mom used to make a place in the kitchen to teach us to make cookies and make a mess, and teach us to clean up. Why couldn't shannan do that? Her poor baby 🍼 girls were so eager to learn 🤗.... But NO... SHE COULDN'T HAVE HAVE that... She had to have ALL the ATTENTION..
@@raquellambropoulos279 did you read the pinned comment?
SW was a sociopath at so many levels. That woman was sick
I just seen this video the other day and was irritated by it. I remember when I was a little girl my mom use to let me bake with her and I loved it! I stirred made a mess but it was great memories. She did it for me. Not to make a fake mlm video for her audience. She is using her kids for props basically for her videos. She is so much about image it is sick. I’m so glad you post these videos! People need to see how she really was. Keep up the good work with these videos!
Ramona Carroll Your obviously on the wrong channel. Plus this channel creator said we are allowed to analyze the problematic behavior and just because they are deceased doesn’t mean we can’t.
@@ivantheterriblepart3 Right this minute her parenting skills are being praised on the other channel about this video. I had to comment, "should have let Bella stir the flour. How do you not see it people!!!!
Personally I think Chis seemed a loving parent and Shannon was basically mean.
@Steve Turowski no he took them to the field first both of them were alive at that particular time. After that he one by one choked bella and cece and threw them into the oil tank he has confessed it by himself. Also camera has shown bella and cece were alive when he was putting the dead body of Shannan in the car coz when he was putting the stuff in the truck there was a shadow that approached him and that was definitely bella and then he put her in the car as well..
@@patriciapearl2529 there were scratch marks on his neck idk what kind of research you did. Also Chris has admitted she was not fighting back she was looking into him that he'll leave her and let her go.. but she went wrong coz he killed her. That kind of a trust she had also she was 7 month pregnant and he was sitting on the baby.
Georgia Floyd so loving that he killed his unborn child instead of calling the cops on his wife? You guys are crazy...she definitely had some issues but he killed them all thus his confession you weirdos
Steve Turowski hm interesting why would he go back on it
rkaur14 are you kidding me? What planet do you live on. ? There is so much pressure. Police can get people t confess to anything ...it’s been going on forever. Add to the facts that Chris seems to have a learning disability, it is easily manipulated
This is so heartbreaking I think she made that home hell on earth for all of them. Everyone just sat by and watched that was close to them and no one thought there was anything wrong with this behavior? I just don't get it.
You know I have been thinking about this.I got into this case awhile back and Im shocked I didnt notice it before.She never hugs or kisses her kids.She also doesnt console either one of them.Its pretty strange.
Oh my! The children are absolutely Beautiful! My heart hurts for them!
Chris continuously says “Good Job,” something kids need to hear, while Shanann NEVER compliments the girls in this video or any others. This is not about quality time w her children. It’s about putting on yet another show to get her fix - likes and acceptance from her online audience. You have to keep kids engaged in an activity like this, even allowing them to play with (and ruin) some of the ingredients that’ll end up in the trash during cleanup time. You can’t prepare, measure, and keep your kids engaged all while trying to entertain and PRETEND for FB. I feel bad for Shanann bc something terrible happened during her childhood causing her to have so many toxic behaviors.
Her kids seem like they aren’t developed emotionally & that’s 100% on mom. It’s no wonder they were never happy. I haven’t seen a single video of them not whining and sulking, because their mom was a self absorbed POS more concerned with her social media than nurturing and teaching.
I wouldn't call it "whining and sulking", I'd call it "begging and sad af".
2.5k a month on childcare was a poor substitute but if she kept them home they’d be sedated and in nap time anyway …
She raised her babies on baby wise..abuse straight abuse
The little girls couldnt wait to help mk cookies! They never did, but tried..then told "no" alot & to say hi to the stupid camera. They did not like the camera always on.
Thank you for making these videos observing the children in these videos. As a child development major I appreciate these so much in terms of looking at this case. It’s really heartbreaking the way these poor children are treated in these live-streams. They’re constantly ignored of their needs.. their cries make my heart feel so heavy 🥺
I even doubt that there was flour on the floor. She would have shown it if there was. If she had the audacity to upload multiple photo's of her little angels sleeping with blankets and pillows over their faces when they allegedly had asthma and she pinched their noses on FB until they cried she sure would have shown flour on the floor as another way to devalue/degrade her kids like she did incessantly and claim that she's a "great mommm".
Thank you so much for these analyses. They help me understand my own childhood.
I lived with a vile narcissist and what Chris was doing is excatly what I did so the narc wouldn't explode, I constantly had to pacify the situation with my then little boy, he's now 15. It was absolute soul destroying living in that house, thank the Lord it's now no more. I can't believe how much she had to portray herself and her children's life into that camera, those poor girls to me seemed in the way of a perfect existence she was trying to show her viewers, but it wasn't perfect at all, it was full on controlling!! And what gets me, why did Bella have such short hair for a little girl🤔
@CBK Recruiter 🥰Thank you ...
@@cmont4064 There is a photo on this channel of Bella's already short hair being chopped
Short hair?
I thought it was short because it just hadn't grown in yet...which, I thought was odd too considering Bellas age. I wondered if it was due to lack of nutrition.
@@dizzledazzle3941 Her hair was cut by her mother.
Growing up I remember I always wanted to help my mom to bake, decorate or just participate and she always pushed me away saying I couldn’t do nothing right.... I have trouble now doing things because I always feel that I’ll mess up, I’m very insecure.... poor girls they had a difficult life ahead
Yeah I got some of that too... Still learning how to do things ... I guess they were raised by grumps.. I hope you can grow in love for yourself :)
Bless you, that is what happens to a lot of people. I agree with you that those girls would of grown up very insecure and the world would of been a hard place for them to navigate, just like their Mother whom had the same treatment herself,by the looks of things. I truly hope for you that you can understand that the problem was never with you and your Mother was solely to blame. Take each situation and challenge yourself to change your negative mindset, by doing this you will be able to help yourself gradually undo what is there in your mind. Once you know it can be done it will be done. Xxxx😘 much love xxx
As an Asian myself, I know many Asian parents are like that; they don’t like their kids to mess up stuff. I can totally feel Bella’s sadness...
So hard to watch and so heartbreaking 💔 😢 God Bless those sweet little girls 🙏🙏
At 5:19 , Chris says "Good job, CeCe" because he is getting annoyed with Shannan not giving them any positive feedback
Not so much annoyed as actually caring about the girls. Life with Shanann must have been sheer panic (knowing they will fall apart from all her stupidity and trying to make it half-way decent for them)
@@thought-provokingvideos5464 yes that's what I meant. He saw how it was affecting the girls
I couldn't even watch all this...seeing those babies SO WELL BEHAVED and being so patient and getting nothing in return but disappointment..it hurts to see this...Rest in peace sweet precious angels...you deserved the whole world..I pray you are not missing out on anything now ..safely in the arms of God🥰
Its so refreshing to see so many comments from people calling out SW behaviour with her girls & paying attention, rather than taking what they heard from news reports & just going with that. This was rare to see at the beginning of this case. People like me just being attacked for the same things being noticed in these videos. People on here are discussing the case rather than attacking each other....Thank you
It’s like all these people Chris ceecee Bella were just appendages to her existence. Very sad …
Those children were suffering from neglect due to social media savvy self absorbed mum 🙄🙄
They both weren't feeling well in this one. Do not be surprised if children with a cold, cough, and if they are over a cookie dough bowl, they will cough over & into it also. Not a day for them to feel up to participating. Very sad.
right but that didn't fit with all of Shanann's glorious plans!
I used pity her, but the more I know the I pity the girls and Chris. He was a great Dad and expressed over and over he didn't want to lose he girls. It is hard for me to reconcile his confession.
@Sissy Motz Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Doesn't mean it right.
@@cecelialenore5576 no I don’t. She already said she didn’t want the baby she was carrying. Women do crazy things when their pregnant. And if you already suffer mental issues it does happen.
Are you forgetting that he not only killed her, but the kids as well??
Is sad I only found this channel a few days ago, I thought I was the only one to think this way, excellent content with FACTS! 👍💯
What is that for a cookie? They poured sugar, than more brown sugar and flour... ??? Anyways... These videos are so painful to watch. But also very informative and eye-opening. Thanks!
This is all for show. I don't think she actually finished making the cookies.
So Chris also had to stand and watch but not take part
I can tell by one look at those kids that they aren't happy. The strained smiles they always seem to have. And why does Bella have shirt hair? I don't know any young girl that would allow her hair to be chopped off. But you never know...
Her hair could just not have grown much yet. One of my daughters had really short hair for a while when she was really little like that.
lice? gum in her hair? idk
Bella’s hair was cut short by her mother. She told her teacher that she dreamed of long hair. The photos of her at school show a bunch of little girls with long hair. They all have braids and ponytails
And then I read somewhere when Bella misbehaved shannan would whisper in her ear " do you want your hair cut again, Bella?" Fing sick woman
The kids looked sad :(
At the beginning they were excited then they knew were this was going again another lier
She was off the chart nuts and a complete control freak all about the camera and who knows what she did to them off camera! Just a lying fraud!
I'm a single dad and this video and her actions are horrible...ignoring her little ones like that...I always and I mean ALWAYS let my kids in on the action when they wanted to help do anything with me, never forced them to do anything, when they were done they were done and free to go play or do what they wanted. When we would bake cookies they always had a small batch of their own to play with and make shapes, and on easter mixing colors for eggs however they wanted. The best way they learn is hands on and they feel part of doing something. Dads can do it too..not just moms. My kids always help me do any project with me if they want to, I love telling people and showing off the parts my kids worked on.
Now I know why Chris’s family didn’t like Shanann
IMAGINE SEEING YOUR GRANDCHILDREN TREATED LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME?
They were jealous of her that is why they didn’t like her .
Vicki Hazelwood I’m pretty sure they were not jealous of a self centered vindictive woman
@Steve Turowski i'm glad someone had the balls to bring up the eyebrows.
@@vickihazelwood4003 Vicki, if your 25 year old future daughter in law lived in a 500, 000.00 house, wouldn't you be suspicious as to how she aquired it. Also, if your future daughter in law told your son to drive 3 hours back home to pick up costumes and drive them back to the birthday party, would you not wander what was up with this woman
Two narcissist parents make a recipe for disaster. She treated these babies like props for her live streams. Smh
I'm very tense after watching this.
And sick to my stomach...
Me to❤
How many people have videos of themselves telling their kids what to say over and over like puppets? These were commercials. Her kids were exploited as props. You never see them happily playing with toys while she is making things with morsels. Cece sounds terribly congested, doesn't seem to want to be sitting up there at all...so sad. Bit they say she was the best mom they had ever seen...???
God knows I need work, and some days I try harder than others, Jesus helps me through those days. That being said, messes like that can get me anxious at times. But I know myself well enough to know that I wouldn't have asked my little ones to help if I couldn't handle it. Make the cookies yourself, and then have them pick their favorite one to eat in front of your audience. Asking them to be there to be scolded and reprimanded every time they reach for something to help is mean. It makes me sad because you can tell with the girls behaviors that that happened often. And if you do want them to help, give them each a bowl with some flour in it and have them mix it with a spoon, then have them add it in when the time is right. It really shouldn't be complicated.
For anyone reading this, it's ok to not be perfect.
See when she comforts Bella she is stiill looking in the camera !
You're so right.. It's funny you bring that up because for the first time I noticed something like that in video I'm editing -- she keeps her eyes but locked on the camera (audience) while she reaches tight-lipped for the baby monitor (that she shuts off) on which Cece could be heard "waking up".. This is the narcissism that sees the 'value' of the audience but not of the dependent. During the comforting it hints at insincerity and superficiality, also that maddening 'oh these kids' high-brow look..
@@thought-provokingvideos5464 I believed the narrative , now I'm not so sure , there is def something wrong with SW.Thank you for allowing free speech a rare thing these days !
Yes agree❤
Excellent analysis of this hard to watch video! I appreciate you breaking it down for us.
What I get from both Chris and the girls is a response to narc behavior called fawning, appeasing the dominant person so as to gain approval/stay out of trouble. Would CW have been truthful in his first confession, yet later take the blame for all the deaths because he believed in honoring her memory? just my thoughts..
This has crossed my
Mind innumerable times.