ABSOLUTE INTENSITY // DEATHSPELL OMEGA - Chaining The Katechon // Composer Reaction & Analysis

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  • @willy-C99
    @willy-C99 12 днів тому +6

    Watching your dissapointment after each section gets more atonal is hilarious lmao, i love your content man, been watching since the beginning.

  • @cowboyw520
    @cowboyw520 Місяць тому +12

    This is a song that makes more and more sense through multiple listens and you really forget how uncomfortable it is for random listeners. And I like how different phrases of lyrics are repeated throughout the song in no particular order, just to fill in the space, just shows you that all the chaos is calculated and serves a purpose.

  • @neck_acrobatics
    @neck_acrobatics Місяць тому +22

    This song is for DsO veterans, very dense.

  • @smackheadsgyro
    @smackheadsgyro Місяць тому +7

    Ok so I have a lot of thoughts
    First. They've never performed live. However if you look on UA-cam 'deathspell omega rehearsal' you will find a recently posted video of them performing a song. It's the only footage of them that exists.
    around 15:20 was hilarious. I was playing a game while listening, but I tabbed out at this point just to see your reaction, and you had the exact reaction I expected. Laughed so hard. Also your description 'it feels like the walls are dripping' is incredible. The perfect description for that section. That fact that you say this proves that, despite what you say, you certainly 'get' something. You may hate it but you seem to get it.
    But also in another sense you seem to not get it at all. I was perplexed by how you describe this song as pure dissonant noise from start to end. Because to me, this song has many moments I would describe with the words peaceful, tranquil, serene, calm. I was excited to hear your feelings because I perceive parts of this song to be very digestible and friendly. It was that moment I realized how truly skewed my perspective is. It makes me feel like I'm literally listening to different music than you. The sounds I hear are not the ones you hear. And you're an experienced listener of metal at this point, with extensive knowledge of composition. I can't even imagine how this song sounds to a normal person. Sounds like such a pretentious thing but I never really realized it until now.
    I like that despite how much you hate this you still pay respects to it and understand how intentional it all is. But I know you are like this anyway it's nothing new. Im mostly just surprised how it seems you get an entirely different experience to me out of this. I have like every note from this song memorized in my head. I can hear every riff so distinctly and they all sound so unique to me. I don't get how you describe it as all sounding the same. This song has SO much compositional diversity. Lol

    • @gillaliglaou2840
      @gillaliglaou2840 Місяць тому +5

      I also was very hyped for this reaction because of how I can easily tell every single thing put into this song, but I guess I forgot the multiple listens it took me to achieve this level of familiarity. And I totally agree on the "peaceful" sections, it think the song has a lot of them.

    • @sVieira151
      @sVieira151 Місяць тому +2

      The difference is you have every note memorised as you said, whereas Bryan has only listened to it once. So unless he had a perfect memory then of course his experience listening to it won't be the same as yours!
      I definitely didn't hear it as just noise, but I also have experience listening to them before so I knew what to expect and can separate things out a bit.
      DsO are definitely a band that grows with repeated listen because of how incredibly dense it all is, imo.

  • @lainlifestyle5790
    @lainlifestyle5790 Місяць тому +6

    BROOOOOOOOOOO this is the ONE deathspell song ! i cant wait to see your reaction

  • @esscue
    @esscue Місяць тому +4

    Cool analysis.
    It's funny how you're able to describe the appeal of their music accurately despite your lack of enjoyment. Whereas I, someone who deeply enjoys this piece, haven't bothered (or perhaps I lack the specific vocabulary) to really pinpoint what I like about it, specifically and concretely. Though thanks to your analysis I have an idea or two about what makes DsO special.

  • @AA-ou2ye
    @AA-ou2ye Місяць тому +3

    Yeah as artists they did really explore the opportunites to pushing the limits. It's not a easy thing to do as artist. They succeeded.

  • @МартинСтефанов-в1л
    @МартинСтефанов-в1л Місяць тому +11

    About the lyrics - I'm not going to pretend that I'm aware of everything that they are talking about or that they are referring to, but these are some of the things that are known about the lyrics (plus some thoughts of mine) (I think I'm going to have to write everything down in two separate comments due to character limit):
    1. Some introductory info before the main course: "Chaining the Katechon" was originally released as DSO's half of a split with the band S.V.E.S.T. entitled "Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum". The work of the two bands can be understood as a variation on a same theme, independent yet complementary. "Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum" is Latin for "The truth of the Devil endureth forever". This is a modification of a line from Psalm 117 (at least it is Psalm 117 in most English versions). The original line is "veritas domini manet in aeternum" which is rendered in the King James Version of the Bible as "the truth of the Lord endureth forever".
    2. The word "katechon". This term comes from Greek and appears in 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 ("And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way") in an eschatological context: Christians must not behave as if the Day of the Lord would happen tomorrow, since the son of perdition must be revealed before. The son of perdition in question is the Antichrist, who is mentioned plenty of times in 1 and 2 John. "He" in the above-mentioned verses is that same Antichrist. It should be noted that St. John supposed that the doctrine concerning the coming of Antichrist was already known to his readers. He urged against the heretics of his time that those who denied the mystery of the Incarnation were faint images of the future great Antichrist. Many people believe that the above-mentioned doctrine had become known in the Church through the writings of St. Paul.
    The Pauline doctrine is this (taken directly from the Catholic encyclopedia's page about the Antichrist): ""the day of the Lord" will be preceded by "a revolt", and the revelation of the "man of sin." The latter will sit in the temple of God, showing himself as if he were God; he will work signs and lying wonders by the power of Satan; he will seduce those who received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved; but the Lord Jesus shall kill him with the spirit of His mouth, and destroy him with the brightness of His coming. As to the time, "the mystery of iniquity already worketh; only that he who now holdeth, do hold, until he be taken out of the way." Briefly, the "day of the Lord" will be preceded by the "man of sin" known in the Johannine Epistles as Antichrist; the "man of sin" is preceded by "a revolt," or a great apostasy; this apostasy is the outcome of the "mystery of iniquity" which already "worketh", and which, according to St. John, shows itself here and there by faint types of Antichrist. The Apostle gives three stages in the evolution of evil: the leaven of iniquity, the great apostasy, and the man of sin. But he adds a clause calculated to determine the time of the main event more accurately; he describes something first as a thing (τὸ κατέχον, "that which withholds"), then as a person (ὁ κατέχων, "the one who withholds"), preventing the occurrence of the main event: "Only he who now holdeth, do hold, until he be taken out of the way.""
    Essentially, the common interpretation of the term in Christian theology is that the katechon is something/someone that prevents the Antichrist from being revealed/fully manifested, and therefore must be removed before the End of Days. Said in other words, the revelation of the Antichrist is conditional upon the removal of that "something/someone that restrains him". The nature and the identity of the katechon is not explicitly mentioned by the author of Second Thessalonians, which is why the passage's interpretation has been subject to dialogue and debate amongst Christian scholars. Having this in mind, we could conclude that "chaining the katechon" is another way of saying "restraining the restrainer". Basically, "chaining the katechon" is supposed to allow the coming of the Antichrist, which I think is a claim, supported by some of the lyrics. Some of them seem to accept or even encourage death: "The task to be achieved, human vocation is to become intensely mortal..." or "...that death is no channel anymore to rejoin the clay of a fractioned God". They also mention the coming of Christ (for which the Antichrist is responsible): "...the advent of that which never was, the coming of a man from the grave". I'm not sure of the exact purpose or the end goal behind it all , but it doesn't seem to be a joyous coming of a messiah in the end, especially because/in spite of the repeating "Hosanna" in the end.

    • @МартинСтефанов-в1л
      @МартинСтефанов-в1л Місяць тому +8

      3. The temple that imprisons the katechon. I think it might be the same monument they wrote about a few years earlier. What am I talking about? Back in 2004 DSO released their first avant-garde opus, named "Si monvmentvm reqvires, circvmspice", which is Latin for "If you will seek a monument (of his), look around you". The cover artwork for this album is particularly interesting, as it has a strong connection to a line from one of the songs from the album. The line is "The heart of a lost angel is in the earth". This is a quote from a poem/play by Elizabeth Barrett Browning, titled "A Drama of Exile". The poem tells the story of Adam and Eve being exiled from the Garden of Eden, and Lucifer's role in it. Lucifer speaks the line in a dialogue with the angel Gabriel on the topic of who holds dominion over the Earth, God or Lucifer:
      "And peradventure in the after years,
      When thoughtful men shall bend their spacious brows
      Upon the storm and strife seen everywhere
      To ruffle their smooth manhood and break up
      With lurid lights of intermittent hope
      Their human fear and wrong,-they may discern
      The heart of a lost angel in the earth."
      This quote has a thematic relationship to Dante’s Inferno. I'm referring to when Dante and Virgil are standing over the the fifth pouch of the eight circle. According to Dante, the pit the Pilgrim climbs down to reach the center of Hell is literally the hole that Satan made when he fell to earth. The extra earth formed Mount Purgatory on the other side of the Earth. Satan and his metaphysical constitution is literally at the center of the Earth. Satan is the lost angel as he was cast down from the Heavens in his attempt to obtain Godhead in Isaiah 14:13-14. Dante uses this idea to create a physical place Satan created after his impact with the earth. The Big Bang was Lucifer falling from heaven, and the entire Universe, including humanity, are the broken parts of Lucifer. Evolution is the process of Lucifer putting himself back together as an angel.
      Anyways, back to the temple, considering everything that DSO outlined in "Si Monvmentvm...", it wouldn't be far-fetched to think that this monument, this temple is the Earth itself. This world more or less is the realm of Satan, his grave, his place of imprisonment. "The heart of a lost angel is in the earth", remember. This ties with the magnification of sin. Man is of the dust, of the Devil, corruption can't beget uncorruption. So if you seek a monument (a "grave" is also a possible interpretation of the original quote), a proof that the Devil exists and is present in the world, then look around you, that's all it takes. The monument is here, it's us. It's almost as if there is very little distinction between man and Devil(and God, too, a viewpoint they explored in 2007's "Fas"). At least this is what I think DSO's philosophy partially boils down to.
      4. Some known references in the lyrics (taken directly from DSO's fans' subreddit page):
      The lyrics, "The act of a free man/Connected to the balance of the world/Projects itself into the infinite" follows a line of thinking evident in the quote, "Every man who begets a free act projects his personality into the infinite", attributed to Léon Bloy.
      The lyrics "And your tongue of light Caressed by the silent leprosy Of your palate" is a quote from Paul Celan's Reverseing the Breath or Renverse du souffle.
      Passages from the lyrics also seem to echo Paul Celan's poem Tenebrae. Lyrics from "Chaining the Katechon":
      "We went to the through, Lord.
      We went bend and convulsed.
      We saw blood, Lord. It was glittering.
      You dispensed it and we drank it.
      We saw your image.
      The gap of our eyes and mouths is void.
      We went bent and convulsed.
      It broke us and dissolved us."
      Paul Celan's Tenebrae:
      "Wind-awry we went there,
      went there to bend
      over hollow and ditch.
      To be watered we went there, Lord.
      It was blood, it was
      what you shed, Lord.
      It gleamed.
      It cast your image into our eyes, Lord.
      Our eyes and our mouths are open and empty, Lord.
      We have drunk, Lord.
      The blood and the image that was in the blood, Lord."
      I'm going to stop here. The thing is, though, I've probably just scratched the surface, the DSO lyrical and conceptual rabbit hole goes really deep. Still, this is perhaps a decent starting point. This is one of the great things about them - the lyrics constitute half the fun. The music itself is a moster on its own, but it is always a challenge to search for the works of literature and the precise spots within them that they make all these references to. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk.

    • @babydaggers
      @babydaggers Місяць тому +1

      @@МартинСтефанов-в1лabsolutely magnificent UA-cam comments

    • @heyimgoingtoplaysomegames
      @heyimgoingtoplaysomegames 10 днів тому +1

      @@МартинСтефанов-в1лYou ever looked into Ammon Hillman?
      I really appreciate your in depth breakdown, this is all incredibly well thought out and presented.
      I’ve been reading a lot of Gnostic texts lately, and the thing that kept popping into my head as I read what you wrote was, “whoever discovers the world has discovered a carcass”.

    • @МартинСтефанов-в1л
      @МартинСтефанов-в1л 8 днів тому +1

      ​@heyimgoingtoplaysomegames Interesting that you mention him because I've actually wanted to look more intently into what he has to say for a bit now, so your comment has served me as a reminder to do so. Thanks for that!

    • @heyimgoingtoplaysomegames
      @heyimgoingtoplaysomegames 8 днів тому +1

      @@МартинСтефанов-в1л Absolutely!! It was quite a shock the first time I fully digested what he was presenting, but new and bold ideas should be that way!

  • @StJ-dt1xn
    @StJ-dt1xn 4 дні тому +1

    I feel like the song almost made you cry on the second half 😂

  • @matress-4-2323
    @matress-4-2323 Місяць тому +2

    in my opinion this is the greatest individual song ever made and it's one of my personal favorites

  • @seabearpig
    @seabearpig Місяць тому +5

    These mfers keep getting you to listen to the most dense and abrasive Deathspell Omega songs. Abscission makes sense but Onward Where Most with Ravin I May Meet and this song are not good songs to listen to if youre trying to understand what they're trying to do with their music.
    Something off The Furnaces of Palingenesia is probably best to start with. I doubt you'll ever love their music but at least Furnaces is riffy and sometimes even straight up catchy, which is saying a lot for this band.

  • @Frizz22
    @Frizz22 Місяць тому +5

    Just FYI, the photo in the thumbnail with the hooded guys is from a different group, Icelandic black metal band Svartidauði. Funnily enough they do quite sound like DsO in parts

    • @CriticalReactions
      @CriticalReactions  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks! I've updated the thumbnail to just the album art

  • @billybobthekidiswack
    @billybobthekidiswack Місяць тому +7

    Their lastest album The long defeat is much more accessible and leans away from their usual avant-garde approach and lean more towards post-metal. Although its hated by many of their core fans i would say it that album has plenty of great riffs, more theatrical vocals, and some of their best and most cohesive song writing.
    Hasjarl is a fan of penderecki's works so i wonder if hes trying to make the band follow in his footsteps in since that penderecki was like the face of Avant-garde music and then ditched that style to make Neo-Romantic music.

  • @phene-449
    @phene-449 Місяць тому +2

    hasjarl is one of the underrated greats

  • @SpeedOfThought1111
    @SpeedOfThought1111 Місяць тому +3

    My first time hearing this band/song, and damn I'm impressed. This is like the death metal equivalent of Meshugah's I (which is never performed live).

  • @ivandraginov134
    @ivandraginov134 Місяць тому +4

    those facial expressions while listening to the song make me laugh so hard 🤣

  • @aphelionvoid4491
    @aphelionvoid4491 Місяць тому +2

    DSO, especially their long tracks like this, feels like a less deranged but more dense and technical version of DHG (Dodheimsgard). While still technical and highly progressive, DHG has long winded atmospheric and chill sections to contrast with its bombastic black metal sections filled with blastbeats to give listener a chance to catch their breath and introspect.

  • @descantinginsalubrious
    @descantinginsalubrious Місяць тому +4

    Deathspell Omega = NOT accessible. Gotta be committed.

  • @smackheadsgyro
    @smackheadsgyro Місяць тому +5

    This is my favourite song of all time by a wide margin, only rivalled by the bands other songs.

  • @Sp3cu
    @Sp3cu Місяць тому +3

    This is definitely a very challenging song, not for everyone. I appreciate your honesty.
    BUT. There is a sinlgle one song from DsO which is not noisy-dissonant-sonic attack, and without vocals, but is actually full of emotion.
    "Apokatastasis Panton" from the album "Paracletus" - Really, check it out, it will blow your mind what these guys are capable of

  • @TheLivirus
    @TheLivirus Місяць тому +4

    So good! Tasteful as hell.

  • @gillaliglaou2840
    @gillaliglaou2840 Місяць тому +6

    just like other deathspell songs, you also didn't get this one. I had some hope you'll like it but it's easy to expect people to have the same familiarity with the song straight away since it's definitely my favorite song of all time, but hey, at least you tried to do a solid video eventhough you barely got a thing out of the song. The only hope for you to enjoy something from this band now is to have Kenose 1 requested I guess.

  • @Sp3cu
    @Sp3cu Місяць тому +1

    Oh man, one of my all time favs!

  • @esscue
    @esscue Місяць тому +3

    40:36 Fun fact, the band has never performed live.

  • @Swejin
    @Swejin Місяць тому +2

    Bro you gotta react to the Kénôse ep. Easily my favorite black metal ep. Probably up in the top 5 of metal in general. They ride the perfect mix of the swirling wall of sound (I like to call it the swarm of bees) and their more groovy melodic side. My favorite period of theirs is mid to late 2000’s. This being included of course. Great job man.

  • @internalfire11
    @internalfire11 Місяць тому +1

    Probably my favorite EP ever, that ending riff is in top 3 twisted dark riffs I've heard. But i have to be in a special mind condition to listen to it, even though i like this type of music. So yeah, it was purposely done to sound like this :)

  • @TorryXD
    @TorryXD Місяць тому +3

    This one is hard to digest, if you want this band in what i think is paracletus quality but digestible its furnaces of palingenesia

    • @sunbIind
      @sunbIind Місяць тому +3

      I'd say Drought, it gives me almost post-metal vibes.

    • @justsomejusstsome8994
      @justsomejusstsome8994 Місяць тому

      ​@@sunbIind Yeah, Drought is definitely their most accessible imo.

  • @ni_n__ho.oh__n_in
    @ni_n__ho.oh__n_in Місяць тому +1

    Dissonance is sooooo left field. First time listening to DSO, been meaning to try them out for a long time. Kinda reminds me of Ulcerate mashed with Enslaved.

  • @Kvasus_
    @Kvasus_ Місяць тому

    this face from the thumbnail must be on every dso reaction

  • @fach8489
    @fach8489 28 днів тому +1

    Deathspell Omega is a band far beyond Black Metal.
    Please listen "Wings Of Predation" you won't regret.
    Cheers

  • @profanepropane
    @profanepropane Місяць тому +2

    Oh man counterpoint? There's a niche sub-subgenre for that in melodeath and black metal. *psst check out the first at the gates albums*. Also I'd recommend DSO's third album as it's a more transitional yet grounded album of theirs. It is just fukkin riffs with melodies that makes even an ogre weep

  • @smackheadsgyro
    @smackheadsgyro Місяць тому +1

    Also, thumbnail is not them. There are no photos of deathspell omega.

  • @luisruiz3638
    @luisruiz3638 Місяць тому +2

    I clicked as fast as I could react.

  • @matress-4-2323
    @matress-4-2323 Місяць тому

    you would probably enjoy some songs on furnaces of palingenesia more. ad arma! ad arma! is in my opinion their simplest song on that album.

  • @keister1169
    @keister1169 16 днів тому +2

    Peak DsO

  • @fatihbkts3941
    @fatihbkts3941 Місяць тому +2

    Probably best song of 2000s for all genre

    • @gillaliglaou2840
      @gillaliglaou2840 Місяць тому +1

      can't think of anything better from the 2010s nor 2020s tbh.

  • @pouryajhfts1298
    @pouryajhfts1298 Місяць тому

    Awesome man❤
    Keep it going
    Do a reaction of "Panzerfaust"🤘

  • @hazardousjazzgasm129
    @hazardousjazzgasm129 27 днів тому

    I don't know why people keep recommending the most complex DsO songs to this channel. It's like your fans want you to hate this band. If you ever react to them again, I hope you do something under 5 minutes, and with a little more consonance.

  • @ambassadortourettes753
    @ambassadortourettes753 Місяць тому +2

    I think this song would have benefitted from about 13 more seconds of blast beats... What a shame they were so close to the perfect and proper amount for my senses of closure....

    • @CriticalReactions
      @CriticalReactions  Місяць тому +1

      It's been a while since I've seen your brand of comedy in the comments. Hope everything is going well for ya.

  • @SkateAnnoy-b1s
    @SkateAnnoy-b1s Місяць тому +2

    not only does this band have nsbm ties, the singer also has a weird obsession with minors (if you know what i mean)
    you criticized burzum for stuff like this, might as well be critical of DsO as well, right?

    • @CriticalReactions
      @CriticalReactions  Місяць тому

      For sure. Thanks for bringing this stuff to my attention

    • @bmfan
      @bmfan Місяць тому +7

      DsO as a band are extremely anti-authoritarian, and anti-fascist by virtue of their love of Georges Bataille. Mikko is only a session vocalist, he is not in the band, but certainly Mikko is deeply problematic.

    • @phene-449
      @phene-449 Місяць тому

      @@bmfan hasjarl is heavily involved with noevdia and is the owner of ealp which has associations with clandestine blaze. let's be honest, they're probably not great people. it is black metal after all. that's not to say that you can't enjoy or appreciate the music for what it is. it's not something that bothers me personally.

    • @billybobthekidiswack
      @billybobthekidiswack Місяць тому +1

      @@SkateAnnoy-b1s All of the members in the band are anonymous. Mikko aspa being the vocalist is based on internet speculation. All we really know is that Hasjarl was one of the founding members of DsO and is still likely still in the band.

    • @gillaliglaou2840
      @gillaliglaou2840 Місяць тому +1

      this band never dove into any of these topics in any of their albums and all the allegations you are presenting are based on a session vocalist who is slowly having less presence in the band (check out their latest album, it has like 3-4 different vocalists). The burzum criticism was there because the guy is infamous for the stuff he does and he likes to push his twisted beliefs into the music, and also ran a youtube channel in which he rambled about all of his stupid views ,whereas for deathspell omega the music itself has no leanings to anything problematic. so, why criticise a song about "chaining the katechon", based on the themes of the session vocalist's horrendous obscure noisegrind UNRELATED projects?