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UNPOPULAR 4TH GEN KPOP OPINIONS
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- hi everyone! today I am discussing some opinions on the 4th gen of kpop~
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HAHAHAHAHAH NOT ME MAKING A WHOLE ASS OPINION ABOUT HOW PEOPLE KEEP CONFUSING CONCEPTS AND THEN SAYING IT WRONG MYSELF.......... OBVIOUSLY 4:20 IS SUPPOSED TO BE TEEN CRUSH....................
some of mine 4th gen opinions
1) only a few 4th gen groups are unique and stand out
2) Somi is loosing a lot of relevancy her yearly songs are making her loose fans
3) Loona won't see a boost of popularity until bbc stop with the favoritism and until they find a good sound
4) I wish these groups would debut with an ep and not just a single it will grab more of an audience if they can hear more songs to get to know the group
5) I'm scared of disbandment for Cherry Bullet & Cignature
Cignature has lost 2 or 3 members and haven't had a comeback. Cherry Bullet members have joined a new Mnet survival show and haven't had a comeback.
ahhh I agree sm with number 4!!! that's why Idles debut really stood out for me
also you're right about Somi. blame YG's misogyny 🙄
and I think Cherry Bullet will be fine. Cignature really needs a comeback though, the added members seem really useless currently
@@danamaybee Cignature lost members and then added more?? Yeah that’s a HORRIBLE sign, just pay attention to about any group that didn’t get comebacks because they didn’t get a lot of success. I agree with all these opinions as well
About the loona one..... i have to sorta agree
Meanwhile Cignature's Boyfriend and Dear Diary EP on the side:
ua-cam.com/video/jidDhKzfzJA/v-deo.html
@@danamaybee Chloe and Dohee are amazing though and fit right into the group.
The whole thing with idols being too young, I agree, but it’s not really like this is a new thing either. SHINee’s Taemin (2008), F(X) Krystal (2009) and Hyuna (2007) (when she first debuted with Wonder girls) were all 14 at debut (as was NCT Jisung (2016),but he’s a more recent one). Miss A Suzy (2010), BTS Jungkook (2013), BAP Zelo (2012) and IU (2008) were all 15
Even BoA (2000) debuted as a soloist from both Korea and Japan when she was 13
idk if i'd call girl crush female empowerment cause there are many ways to express female empowerment that isn't fishnets and black based clothes.
same, I feel like we, as women, shouldn't feel empowered by wearing a suit or exposing a bit of skin I feel like it should be doing what you want to do and being confident in that.
you're so right!!! in my description I tried to base it off of the general vibe that the concept has and what it is associated with. I also 100% think female empowerment can be implemented in all concepts 💗
The difference between æspa and Loona is that æspa (being from SM) has the budget to pull off their concept reallly really well visually. Everything from M/V, stage performances, outfits, etc. I’m not sure about what LOONA’s concept is but it is defneitely not what æspa and SM are trying to do with their AI counterparts. It’s interesting to hear your take on this though !
Loonaverse is all about interpretation that's why there isn't right or wrong theory it's all up to you but with aespa there is a specific storyline that's why there are some made up words in their lore. Both lores really good tho
Loona used to have the biggest budget out of any kpop group (compare their $9 million predebut/debut with 30+ solo/subunit MVs filmed all over the world). They still have the most expensive debut of all time. Their company is attached to a super wealthy Korean company called Ilkwang Group. Unfortunately, a couple years ago Ilkwang got into legal trouble for fraud and it trickled down to Blockberry, which cut the spending for Loona. That being said, they still have a super high budget compared to a lot of groups, especially those not under the big 3/HYBE. Not sure if you’ve seen a lot of Loona’s 40+ MVs, but they’re usually all super high quality with crazy visuals, and ALL of them are filmed by Digipedi, one of the most sought after video direction companies in SK.
Also, Loona doesn’t have a concept- that is their concept. They have a different sound/genre for almost every comeback, most exemplified by their 12 solos (all different genres) and subunits (each one a different concept). The last 3 comebacks have been kinda girlcrush- hopefully they switch it up next time.
i definitely agree with number 5. that's literally exactly what i thought abt asap and after school. i basically was thinking, "its a cute song but not like the typical cute we've seen in kpop" which is kind of what u said. i really like how they're putting a new twist on the cute concept and i feel like people are appreciating a cuter concept more instead of joining the bandwagon hate on cute songs in past years.
ikr!!! it seems like the massive girl crush era is coming to its end and we're seeing more variety in kpop again which I love
If you want a good 4th gen soloist, I recommend Yukika!! She’s one of my 4 ults and her music has a fantastic city pop sound
ooo I will check her out immediately! brb
I think I've heard Neon before! I also listened to Insomnia, I really love both
@@danamaybee no problem!! I’m always happy to spread the Yukika Agenda (TM) hshsjskjsjsks
anyways dana thank you for giving us somi
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and for the soloist thing, hopefully with izone disbanding will help, especially with eunbi announcing shes working on an album
G Dragon debuted at 8 years old, nothing is wrong with idols debuting young. Their age is fine....Fans are the problem
Just because it was overlooked in the past doesn't mean that it should be tolerated and encouraged in the future. And while fans have a hand on the experiences of underaged idols, it cannot be denied that if idols are of the proper age then they would be able to handle the pressure and nuances of the industry with the appropriate mindset and physique
About YGNGG- 100% true and right
I really want them to debut THIS year. Actually, Big 3 debuted 2nd and 3rd gens year by year. And now it is like- ITZY 2019, aespa 2020, YGNGG- 2021 (?). Plus, if YG will debut then in 2022, cmon- 2022 will be a WAR for rookies… Jyp is going to debut new gg, maybe Hube will+ Girls Planet 999….
couldnt tell if you were being ironic in the first one but 4th gen is objectively underperforming in korea compared to every other gen😭 it's BAD
as a collective I'm sure that's true in Korea yeah! but sales and achievements aren't everything. it's also about impact, how releases were liked and how they're remembered. specifically internationally (can't really say much about Korea ofc)
I give more context on this in this video!: ua-cam.com/video/czuS49ElXvI/v-deo.html
I think it has more to do with the 3rd gen being past its peak than the 4th gen itself. Red Velvet was absent, Twice didn't do well that year, Blackpink did have hits but it was not D4/KTL level, and so on. meanwhile more 4th gen groups are debuting and having many comebacks, therefore leaving a bigger mark
@@danamaybee honestly 4th gen has had no impact so far either but if you mean they were the most present that's true since 3rd gen is coming to a close
I feel like doing something regarding space isn't always the same. In this case aespa and loona. aespa is doing a more avatar AI type of thing while loona is doing moons and planets if that makes any sense. once a group has space in it, we disregard the ACTUAL concept and bring up how everyone is trying to be like loona or create a similar concept which is very annoying. I will say that aespa's lore feels kinda forced and I fear that it will effect their discography however I could be wrong!!
I get what you mean! I'm not implying Loona did it first therefore did it better (as another comment said) and I don't think the actual stories are similar either. I really mean the idea, so indeed the space concept, and having lore. they both have a story and lore yet Loona gets praised and Aespa gets torn to shreds, while the principle is the same. I wonder what's up with that
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The last one I agree with 100% because some idols are so young it makes me uncomfortable. I wish it was a 16+ rule
bye i agree with all of these
I just don't like the way 4th gen is full of girl crush concept.now listening to girl crush concept songs it sounds all the same.ofc in my opinion.
first
1.agree
2.disagree
-i love all of the songs, it’s personal preference but even on an objective way their bsides are all are above average
3.??? hahaha OH okay
-well i do think that kwangya has always been a thing in the sm universe, the start of nct was the start of kwangya and aespa was the epitome
4.agree
5.kind of agree
-there are only 2 groups who really bring true cute songs back and one who consistently does that. Stayc had one cute song but weeekly has been cute since debut i’d say!
6.agree
-and it’s not needed ngl. They have good songs and thats it, which is okay
7.i dont know
-there aren’t even any solidified members
8.agree
-we dont really have any. I dont like Alexa’s music that much and she never struck me as an amazing soloist.
9.disagree
-it were only a few songs. After lion whiche as a bside morely they came back with OMG and then dumdi dumdi which were two different styles. And then hwaa which was very traditional
Sm have been mentioning kwangya since 2009 so nct don't start it
@@dekad3219 oh yeah i know i misworded myself i tried to say that the kwangya universe really got the spark attention with Nct and that aespa is now the forefront of it
Liked your video !! 💝 some nice points
No no cuz the 10th one is so true mire(tri.be) and jian(lightsum) are my age like hello u just turned 15😩
I agree for the most part about Loona’s b-sides. Their b-sides are always the best of the best. Their solo, subunit and full group b-sides are some of the best music I’ve ever heard in my life. This includes both in kpop and all other music in general. Seriously, their discography is one of the greatest pieces of art. That being said, I definitely heard a change in “&” the album. I enjoyed most of the songs, and I loved one or two. But the songs as a whole lacked that Loona flair- that aspect that subverts your expectations and makes the song super interesting. They lacked the complexity and flavor they usually have. In fact, they were kinda predictable- like any group could have released them- this used to not be the case. That being said, I do think “PTT” is one of their more solid title tracks, and I think it finally will deliver them a bit more attention in the Korean mainstream.
that's how I feel exactly!
meeee first !
Agree with no.2 loonas bside I just don't really like them as much anymore
can y’all stop saying aespa is trying to copy everyone and discrediting them whenever you get the chance? loona was definitely not the first group to do this kind of concept. aespa is its own group. you are just mad cause they have it all, skills, visuals and success
watch the video luv xx
@@danamaybee I watched it and it made no sense, you proceeded on listing things you think aespa copied from loona just to say “aespa doesn’t copy loona” pick a side ig? y’all think SM would debut a group copying a much smaller one? stop living in your dreams
hello dana it is your biggest fan
hey bestie xx
istg if yg new girl group gets like no hate for being ''blackpink sister group'' im gonna the way ONLY txt gets previlage for being under bighit and got fame from bts its not like i want people to hate them but its lowkey unfair
Ya... you are here again....lol...you're moa right ..even after TXT got hate you want other group to suffer same fate...haven't you felt how bad it feels...to get such hate...well what cn i expect from TOXIC MOA.... If your faves get hate...then other should also get...wow..nice mentality
@@jyshree1652 I agree, I wouldn't wish for that to happen to anyone, the hate txt got for just being bighit's new group was ridiculous. And I know that it's just gonna be worse if it was a gg. Just after gfriend disbandment, I saw a few comments under a tiktok post saying they would hate the new gg that's gonna debut, saying they're the reason for gfriend's end. they've honestly gone mad
@@kingning7423 exactly...and the fact that this MOA support such haterd makes me wanna punch them
And you call yourself a moa???!? 😀 LMFAO okayyy what a great toxic trait for someone like you
woo!ah! is definitely Teen Crush.
They are more like sassy rather than cute.
yes I agree!!! I love their song bad girl
I started listening to Kpop since the 2nd generation and all I want to say is that the 4th generation is disappointing. Yes, there are *some* groups that are impressive and have some good songs and stuff but man… it doesn’t look/sound like kpop anymore. It just sounds like American pop without that kpop essence🙁 so sad. And also many new fans nowadays are very aggressive, close minded , “uncultured” and overall just toxic. not the fandom I used to remember..
IM NOT FIRST 😐
fake fan 😣 /j
The youngest kpop group atm I Think is Cookie.
Also Busters/Hi Cutie have really young memebers.
I haven't heard of them before but I just googled them and this really irks me :/ I truly don't understand it
@@danamaybee well I don't Really understand companies debuting young idols. Busters aren't that popular, but people got to know them a bit more when the former member Chaeyeon was Allegedly Slapped On A Kids Show, But we don't know for sure, since as the slapping happened a person walked in front of it and we only hear a slapping sound so we don't know for sure if it was a slap or no
What I notice about some 4th gen groups are popular international but their songs don't even Chart in Korea.
I think maybe international fans are already more open to the generational swift than domestic fans are!