I was able to use the preview build to put together a short historical video on the massive defenses of Constantinople. Hope to bring you more documentary content in the future
The wall didn't fell, the empire did. By the time of the siege, Constantinople had a population less than 50,000 and the Turks sent about 50,000-80,000 to attack the city. If the empire still had a few million people (or tens of million like Ming China), the Turks wouldn't be able to breach the wall as there will be enough defenders to man the wall.
yeah but the walls were too thick for the cannon balls to penetrate. In the end they didn´t get over the walls, but someone of the defenders simply left open a small gate during a huge assault on the otherside of the city. when they were inside there was no stopping them anymore.
I extremely appreciate the fact that you merge together serious history and gaming, I especially enjoyed you First Punic War series. Keep up the great work!
***** It was renowned as a fishing village filled by drunks and alcoholics apparently. But Constantine came in and turned the small village upside down and inside out into a glorious city.I think that it is more of an exaggeration than truth because we always see exaggerations, lies and propaganda from past historians who lived a long time ago.
In my opinion is truly sadly that the firts who conquered the city were the crusaders of Occident, who the Empire protect for a long period of time with the massive war machine of the caliphate, who proves to subyugate the city in two massive sieges. The story of ERE is the most tragic and sadly story of a civilitzation, respect them and her legacy.
+Rubén Guerrero Agreed. Not only that, but they seemed to have a terrible run in terms of luck. Whenever they are doing well, a plague strikes. Or an earthquake. Or conspirators betray the emperor (Manzikert). Or the Europeans (1204).
The venetians were anything but allies to the ERE/Byzantine Empire. They worked tirelessly against each other in successive trade wars and political maneuvers for many years. The venetians 100% manipulated that entire situation to make the Crusaders openly assault Constantinople as they feared doing it themselves.
nebo iznad krajolika. maybe you thinking ototoman defead them and its all finish. but ottoman is protec their culture , and tradetions. ottoman chanced slowly after conquest costantin .they turn back to anatolians turks ,see them like trouble warriors. game of byzans (gameof thrones in turkish)begin in costantin. i thing ottoman is some kind of muslim byzans.
Aww...how many ILLEGAL relatives do you have ? Or maybe YOURSELF ? Perhaps you'd like to be ILLEGAL in a Muslim nation, and have your hands cut off, or WORSE ?
And then people go watch GoT and other fantasy series when it´s clear reality is vastly superior to fiction. Just study the era of the roman republic and empire.
Pretty much this. I've always been enthralled with fantasy and the imaginative nature of it but there is just something about the fact that these things happened or could have happened in reality that just makes it so much better than fantasy. Dragons and Undead are pretty boring once you've read about all the amazing things our own history has to offer. GoT seems pretty childish in comparison. Though quite often Mr. Martin himself talks about how quite a few of his most popular story arcs are directly ripped from history itself
TheGreekSpawn And there was no western or eastern empire just a western and eastern emperor...for the people of that time there were no two empires but ONE state ruled from two seats. Just like if for example we suddenly decide to have a second prime minister in Thesaloniki. That wont change that we are one greece, one country.
from the couple battles I played it seems the AI will go straight for the gates so that is the biggest concern you will be facing. Units still seem to have the ability to burn down gates so it may actually be possible to get through those portions fairly quickly if they are not properly defended
These History vids are great, I hope we see more in the future. Constantinople is the city I would have loved to have seen in its prime, more than Rome or Alexandria etc.
To add a detail, even Massive Ottoman canons couldn't do a great damage to the walls... It was a simple lucky moment that gave the Ottomans the moment of Victory. Wall Commander was shot, and presumed dead, and wide-spread panic gave way for Jannisarries to grasp the advantage, since the walls were defended by Citizens, but Jannisarries were Elite Soldiers, trained from a young age, for these kinds of situations.
C1h4d bu bilgi türk bir tarihçi tarafından verilmiştir. Körü körüne birşeylere inanmaktansa, araştırıp doğrusunu kabul etmeyi tercih ederim. Ve şansın, yada eski müslümanların tabiriyle "Allah'ın takdiri"nin savaşlar üzerinde rolü çok büyüktür. Yine belirttiğim gibi, bu anı değerlendirende, dönemin tek profesyonel askeri birliği olan yeniçerilerdir. Eğer tam olarak okuyabilseydiniz, üstünlüğün Osmanlı ordusunun profesyonelliğinde olduğunu vurguladığımı fark ederdiniz. Ve eğer topların, her ne kadar muazzam yapıtlar olsada, surlar üzerinde büyük bir teshiri olmadığını belirtmenin bir hakaret olduğunu düşünmüyorum. Ama bir topun, bugün hala ayakta olan surlar'ın tamamını yıktığına inanıyorsanız, tercih sizin.
araştırdığın kaynağa göre değişir işler, sen biraz farklı yerlerden araştırmışsın anlaşılan eski müslüman da ne demekse bu arada, çok dindar olmayanlar bile bilir ve inanır ki Allah'ın yardımı olmadan tabii ki zordu Bizans'ı almak, o kadar teknolojik ve askeri üstünlüğe rağmen. benim demek istediğim yani öyle bir demişsin ki sanki sadece şansa bala aldık, o kadar faktörün yanında topların yaptığı hasara gelince, büyük hasar veremiyorlardı demişsin, abi topun çapı ne kadar bir kere, nasıl yapmıyordu ama ben demedim ki koca duvarı havaya uçuruyordu, toplar büyükse de surlar da büyüktü, ve uzun bir süre surdaki hasarları tamir edebilmişlerdi (o konuda yüzyılların tecrübesi vardı adamlarda) şu anki füzeler bile koca duvarı havaya uçuramazdı, anca yüksek patlayıcı tesiri olan bombalar bir kısmını uçurabilirdi heralde.
Şahi Topunun çapı 91 cm, hatta şu an başka bir yerde daha kullanıldıklarını buldum, Çanakkale savaşı sırasında kullanılmışlar. Şans, tabi ki faktörde olsa, ben yazımda yeniçerilerin uzmanlığının ön planda olduğunu vurguladım, ki Roma'dan beri görülmemiş bir sistem kullanılması sebebiyle. Uzun uzun yazıp açıklamayı gerekli görmedim tabi ki. Topların kuşatmada ki kullanımına gelirsek, Şahi topu, kuşatmanın 3.haftasında çatlamıştır, ve en etkin şekilde kullanılamamıştır. Bunun sebebi Surlarla olan mesafesi ve yeniden doldurma süresi. (Yanlış hatırlamıyorsam surlardan 1 kilometre uzaktan atışlar yapılmaya başlanmış, ve doldurma ve soğutma süresi 3 saat civarı) Toplar, özellikle topların kendi ağırlığından ötürü, ve sonrasında savunmaların etkinliği yüzünden, surlara çok yaklaştırmak mümkün olmamıştır. Sizinde dediğiniz gibi Surlar çok büyüktü. Zaten kuşatmadan sonra, Şahi topları bir daha saldırıda kullanılmamış, Osmanlı nispeten daha küçük topları tercih etmiştir. Savunma sırasında, surlarda topların atış odağı olan 2 büyük gedik açılmış, fakat kale komutanı vurulana kadar, bu gedikler etkin bir şekilde savunulmuştur. Burada Gustiniani'nin vurulması, panik yaratmış, bunun sonucunda da Yeniçeriler şehre girebilmiştir. Tabi bunu sürdürürsek eğer, saldıran ve savunan morallerini de incelememiz gerekir, daha çok konuşuruz bunu. Ez cümle : Gustiniani'nin vurulması gerçekten de kuşatmada bir dönüm noktasıdır, ve şanslı bir andır, bunu değerlendiren de Yeniçerilerdir.
Yes, they were elite but practically all of them were European, not Turkmenistan region. They were forcibly taken from their Christian families at the tender age of 5. Christian Greek families had to pay higher taxes but when they could not afford to pay, they had to submit a son to the Sultan. Many Christian European kingdoms became vassals to the Sultan. When Western Europe found out about this practice, the coined the term, "Savage Turk".
You've got to love those walls. Stunning. What amazing feats of defence. You look at those multiple layers of defence and one can see how Constantinople was able to stand against all comers for almost a Millennia (I don't count the Crusaders - those back stabbing betrayers cheated). A thousand years. That's as far apart as the Battle of Hastings and today! Mind blowing! You can see why it eventually took massive cannons to finally breach the walls. Does anyone else find it curious that the greatest defences built by the Roman Empire came at the very end of their "classic" history - so late that most people would not even think them properly classically "Roman" at all? And what a fantastic video. Thank you, job very well done indeed. :)
They were Romans. Byzantine Empire was the continuation of the Roman Empire. Thats why they used the double-headed eagle. One looking West and one looking East.
The walls can withstand barbarian hordes Οχι-και-τοσο-γλυκουλης Χρηστος . It just couldn't withstand the infighting within the empire or the gunpowder powered cannon brought by the Ottomans
Chuck.Raney Raney name one nation wich doesnt have any violence ? the religion of islam isnt violent and dont come with some koran verses i know them and i know what they mean and islam isnt violent
Οχι-και-τοσο-γλυκουλης Χρηστος They can't stay in their "own" countries because the OTHER people there, those OTHER Muslims, have created all kinds of violence under the guise of Islam. That is why it is accepted culture by the Muslims to go into other countries and hire their selves out as fighters. Those mujaheddin are PAID to fight. It's a traditional occupation. You ever wonder how they form militias so quickly at the drop of a hat?
For those of you that are unaware, when Rome fell to Germanic tribes, Constantinople remained as the capital of the Roman Empire. It made numerous attempts to liberate former territories in the west but could not retain them in the end. Though it's culture was Greek, it continued to be the capital of the Roman Empire until the Ottoman conquest. Rome had long been an empire, not a city state, and the empire was more Greek speaking than Latin. The neologism "Byzantine Empire" was coined only in 1557 by a German historian, Hieronymus Wolf, in his work Corpus Historiæ Byzantinæ. Indeed, the turks themselves called much of their conquered territories Roumelia, land of the Romans.
It is truly incredible to think that a pre medieval wall was able to hold out attackers for a millenial. Not only that but as it is a Roman wall it is also artistically beautiful to look at and made with carefull planning. I also read somewhere that the moat could be filled with water whenever needed
Agias It wasn't a ruin, it was a prosperous trading city. Many of its buildings were pretty modern too, the city having been extensively rebuilt by Septimius Severus in 196 AD (admittedly mostly because in taking it, his armies had destroyed large swathes of it).
Of all the things I wish I could go back in time and see, Constantinople during its glory days would be near the top. Even though it never really surpassed Rome in terms of size, it's beautiful architecture and culture actually makes me want to see it more. I can only imagine how breathtaking the city would have been to people like the Varangians/Norse warriors and traders who were used to Wattle and Daub or rough timber houses and castles with a ditch and timber walls for defence to come to Constantinople and see 3 walls, each thicker and stronger then any wall they'd ever seen before at home. Then they walk into the city to see silk and spices the likes of which even kings at home could barely afford and mosaics the likes of which didnt exist in their home country. The Theodosia walls were why a viking army once sailed from Russia/Ukraine and turned around rather then even try to take lay siege or extract danegeld (they often would simply picket outside a city and demand money to leave with the threat of a siege as leverage).
Greetings from 2020. This video was super helpful. I write (bad) fantasy stories, and one problem I've come across is figuring out what the walls of an ancient city might look like. It's surprisingly hard to find this information when you want it. This video gave me every answer I needed.
Bonjour. Could I know what software you color in your maps? I want to know how to bring up the color has a specific location on a map, like here for example by : 0:22 (excuse me, I use google translation)
Keep making this kind of videos! Most people stil think that Turks are invading Europe and that world is flat not round. That's why whe need to keep making this kind of educatieve videos.
Awesome! Love your videos dude! Was wondering if you fancied doing a video on Hadrian's wall. I recently only just found out that the Roman's build another wall to keep the picts out - the Antonine Wall to the north. Pretty cool stuff!
I don't seem to remember any attack made by the Crusaders in 1097? In-fact they were allowed to enter the city to speak to the Byzantine Emperor, since the Crusaders and Byzantines were supposed to be working together! And also the Sacking of Constantinople in 1204 was only possible because of betrayal caused by a Byzantine prince being unable to pay the Crusaders!
as far as I know, in 1453 , the ottomans had an engineer who build the biggest cannon ever on the spot, as it could not have been dragged a long way. At that time the walls where already just a rememberance of what they used to be. The folk in the city also did not rush to defend it, but venetian and genoan help managed to stop the naval assault. The ottomans had their cannon destroyed by concentrated , accurate fire from smaller cannons on the walls and resorted to building fortresses around the city to prevent provision or help to get in (or out). This is just a suplimentary piece of information for those interested. Otherwise, great video man
the man that was key to defending Constantinople in its final stand is Giovanni Giustiniani. There is also a fictional (but still pretty accurate book) picturing the fall of the city
where you read that? as far as i know the Byzantines had cannons but they stop using them when they realize that the walls cant stand the recoil. Also the ottaman grand cannons could breach the cities walls as least in a huge scale because it took too long to reload and fire and in the meanwhile the defenders repaired the walls as much as possible
Huh? In 1097 crusaders were INVITED in the city, there was no siege. It was the first crusade, and the result of it was the siege and recapture of Nicaea by the byzantines, with the crusade continuing their march towards Jerusalem. The only crusade to attack Constantinople was in 1204.
The larger the walls could weaken the defence instead. You need to garrison more troops to fill the entire walls and towers. The enemy could also demoralize or disintegrate socio-politically and even culturally through continuous propaganda. In fact, in later years, the capital suffered from massive population decline
Excellent video. This past semester, I wrote a twelve page historiography paper for the Fall of Constantinople, and I read a book that mentioned people putting the name of which person and/or family renovated a particular tower. Those walls were impressive.
I think they should have filled the gap between the walls with spikes like Caesar did at the Battle of Alesia. Might have stopped Crusader cavalry in 1204.
"Kostantiniyye (Arabic القسطنطينية, al-Qusṭanṭiniyah, Ottoman Turkish قسطنطينيه Kostantiniyye) is the name by which the city came to be known in the Islamic world. It is an Arabic calqued form of Constantinople, with an Arabic ending meaning 'place of' instead of the Greek element -polis. After the Ottoman conquest of 1453, it was used as the most formal official name in Ottoman Turkish, and remained in use throughout most of the time up to the fall of the empire in 1923. " "Thus, Kostantiniyye was used on coinage up to the late 17th and then again in the 19th century." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Istanbul#Kostantiniyye
the city was called istanbul at the times of the byzantines as well. the name means "to the city", istanpolis; something like that. the name of the city changed due to administrative matters in 1920s.
Then the ottomans came and passed into history, as a mere monarchy, BUT Rome shaped the world from west to the east, in this world even the ottomans who conquered the last Roman holdings were forced to adapt.
Hey THFE Productions, I love your videos so much. It's just incredibly beautiful to watch with the Rome 2 engine, and you seem to have done your reading very thoroughly which is even better. Very emotional as well for history lovers. BTW, have you heard of the book 'The Grand Strategy of the Byzantine Empire' by Edward Luttwak? If you're into Byzantium, you're going to love the sheer detail and tons of briliant insights. Thanks, looking forward to watching more!!
It would survived longer but not that long, i mean if most of the most powerful European kingdoms decided to fully help Byzantium in 1453 and to protect her like if it was First Rome, yes then it could have recovered as long as recaptured lands were given back to the Byzantines so they could have income to pay their troops (their troops at this point was mainly mercenaries)
Just today I began reading Marcus Aurelius' Meditations and there's a reference early on to the "blues" and "greens", which I now get thanks to your video. Keep on doing the good work
Wow! such a amazing video! I love to learn something new and the way you are able to present the information is astonishing. Please keep videos like these coming! thank you!
You know, it seems a majority of these battles were in part decided by natural intervention. An earthquake nearly brought down this stronghold. Amazing.
your documentaries are the BEST thing ever..i watched many documentaries on TV, many historical YT channel...but these are probably the most interesting ones i ever seen :)!
They weren't Swedish - they were actually from a small area on the west of what is now Russia. (I just learned this recently.) I also learned that Vikings weren't nec. from Sweden, Denmark etc. Anyone was free to join a Viking expedition.
Fantastically made video! Definitely worth watching as not only you put the effort in, you have shared a great amount of detail to us which you put the effort of researching, and it was worth listening. I have to say this video gave me more knowledge on the city then I previously known. Although I knew it, I know so much more thanks to you. A well made video worth watching! Thanks for the facts as well! Looking forward to this game, will love to play as the ERE :D
Before 330 AD, the city was called Byzantium and had been part of the Roman empire since the end of the first century AD. The city was founded as a Greek colony almost 7 centuries BCE. It was called Constantinople after the death of the Emperor Constantine. When the Ottomans conquered it in 1453, it was eventually named Istanbul (though not formally until 1930).
Man I never get tired of hearing about Constantinople. Those walls. Dat hagia sophia. Dem blues and greens. I reeeaaally like these historical videos brah. 10/10 would watch again
love your historical videos this and punic wars.i love history and read a small amount of books but this helps me gain more knowledge in things i like so much.
Thank you, I will be able to use the explanations here to write a chapter in my epic novel, where Constantinople falls temporarily to the power of the Venetian and Norman crusaders in 1204. I needed a good depiction of how the walls looked and how the Crusaders had attacked them, and your video gives me important info.
_Dudul_ the word for 'willy' in Middle Persian, was actually a short and garbled form of _Theodosius_, Byzantine emperor who was supposedly adopted by Izdegerdes.
Great video. I'm sure we'll be able to cheese it in the actual game though but whatever. *Nit pick: You should've just said "Source material" for your sources. Primary sources are original (historical) material, as opposed to secondary sources, which you used.
It wasn't the cannons that did the job, but gate of the defences that was closed too slowly during the siege right after troops from the city went out to do skirmishes to the invading forces.
I was able to use the preview build to put together a short historical video on the massive defenses of Constantinople. Hope to bring you more documentary content in the future
Amazing video.
So awesome to see a youtuber who shares my complete love of Constantinople and its history!!!
Impressive video. I hope you can do more of these. That would be amazing!
Excelent¡¡¡
i don't normally comment but i LOVED THIS please please please do more
The wall didn't fell, the empire did. By the time of the siege, Constantinople had a population less than 50,000 and the Turks sent about 50,000-80,000 to attack the city. If the empire still had a few million people (or tens of million like Ming China), the Turks wouldn't be able to breach the wall as there will be enough defenders to man the wall.
Yeah the Ottomans breached the wall with bombards. Not the whole thing, but a breach is a breach. Took them ages though.
yeah but the walls were too thick for the cannon balls to penetrate. In the end they didn´t get over the walls, but someone of the defenders simply left open a small gate during a huge assault on the otherside of the city. when they were inside there was no stopping them anymore.
Jakraful
They were breaching the walls, but they were being repaired faster than they could be destroyed.
El Psy true
but years of venetian, genoese amd turkish aggressions did not helped either
Peizxcv also the Turks were said to be about 160.000, not 80.000
I extremely appreciate the fact that you merge together serious history and gaming, I especially enjoyed you First Punic War series.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks, I also have another series of scripts in the works for more extensive looks at both the Roman military and also a battle of the late empire
I'll be looking forward for it:)
Catalonic plains?
THFE Productions cant wait to hear it
THFE Productions *rubs hands*
All I need are twenty good men.
Is*
Get an life.
And climbing spikes.
all i need is 10 good men and i’ll impregnate the bitch
I've seen this hentai before...
wasn't the city found by greeks who named it "byzantion" and later Constantine renamed it Constantinople ?
Yes but the city was greatly expanded under Constantine I
tbone martinez i am not saying that it wasn't ,what i am saying is that the city was founded by greeks.
Yes, it was.
correct, the emperor Constantine founded his new city on top of Byzantium
***** It was renowned as a fishing village filled by drunks and alcoholics apparently. But Constantine came in and turned the small village upside down and inside out into a glorious city.I think that it is more of an exaggeration than truth because we always see exaggerations, lies and propaganda from past historians who lived a long time ago.
Wonderful Video! :)
appreciate it man! I have two more series in the works which will help set the stage for the upcoming release of Attila
HOLY CRAP LION! YAY!
In my opinion is truly sadly that the firts who conquered the city were the crusaders of Occident, who the Empire protect for a long period of time with the massive war machine of the caliphate, who proves to subyugate the city in two massive sieges. The story of ERE is the most tragic and sadly story of a civilitzation, respect them and her legacy.
+Rubén Guerrero Agreed. Not only that, but they seemed to have a terrible run in terms of luck. Whenever they are doing well, a plague strikes. Or an earthquake. Or conspirators betray the emperor (Manzikert). Or the Europeans (1204).
Richardsen or bad emperors
The crusaders were broke and needed money, it wasn't their fault.
toofer well.....if it wasn't for the venetians to say: "look, our allies, let's sack their city"
The venetians were anything but allies to the ERE/Byzantine Empire. They worked tirelessly against each other in successive trade wars and political maneuvers for many years.
The venetians 100% manipulated that entire situation to make the Crusaders openly assault Constantinople as they feared doing it themselves.
And because of the A.I.'s ability on offense, it never will be conquered by it unless you autoresolve.
It can be -> they will torch it and mass flood the city. So if you don't have enough units defending the city..
Evelien H I get like 5 melee unites and 5 missile unites in constaninople
Shard Obsidia, just use a smarter AI mod
Great video man!
appreciate it!
Lol a popular youtuber's comment without a bazillion replies, nice. Yeah awesome video.
Orange Aeronaut I know right?
Orange Aeronaut then again it is 3 years ago he was still pretty small
History right here
Great job, but could you have at least used metric in parenthesis for us viewers not in the US?
or you could get off your lazy ass and convert it easily.
@@Alexander_MD Or the US could use some common sense and except the fact that the imperial system is bs
@@Julian-vl7vn "hold on, this whole operation was your idea"
FUCKING EARTHQUAKES, WRONG TIME, WRONG PLACE!!!!
this vid made me shed a tear
especially the ending...
good narration
meh. I've been there. It's still a great capital of finance, culture, learning, art etc. Constantinople aint dead yo.
nebo iznad krajolika. maybe you thinking ototoman defead them and its all finish. but ottoman is protec their culture , and tradetions. ottoman chanced slowly after conquest costantin .they turn back to anatolians turks ,see them like trouble warriors. game of byzans (gameof thrones in turkish)begin in costantin. i thing ottoman is some kind of muslim byzans.
ganesh raja Yeah right
batulefou its worse than dead its not roman
My favorite part is the last emperor making a final stand against his invaders Justinian would've ran
Trump would be proud...
João Pedro Costa Ferreira the wall just got ten feet higher
Aww...how many ILLEGAL relatives do you have ? Or maybe YOURSELF ? Perhaps you'd like to be ILLEGAL in a Muslim nation, and have your hands cut off, or WORSE ?
Immigrants fly into the U.S.
Walls can't stop planes
Mary A unless they are built even higher then plane altitude
he's so proud he even has a trump tower in istanbul... look it up if you don't believe me
And then people go watch GoT and other fantasy series when it´s clear reality is vastly superior to fiction. Just study the era of the roman republic and empire.
whats wrong with doing both? (:
Milan Francis Nothing, but people being ignorant about history makes me sad.
Max Payne Yeah. Especially the roman era is so interesting!
Raymond Benjamins Indeed.
Pretty much this. I've always been enthralled with fantasy and the imaginative nature of it but there is just something about the fact that these things happened or could have happened in reality that just makes it so much better than fantasy. Dragons and Undead are pretty boring once you've read about all the amazing things our own history has to offer. GoT seems pretty childish in comparison. Though quite often Mr. Martin himself talks about how quite a few of his most popular story arcs are directly ripped from history itself
You keep saying Eastern and Western Empire. Before the Holy Schism, only Byzantine Empire was considered a Roman Empire.
WRONG GO LEARN HISTORY!
PanoStressed More than true...you go learn history.
TheGreekSpawn And there was no western or eastern empire just a western and eastern emperor...for the people of that time there were no two empires but ONE state ruled from two seats. Just like if for example we suddenly decide to have a second prime minister in Thesaloniki. That wont change that we are one greece, one country.
BasileiosMacedon CCNB
TheGreekSpawn which holy schism do you mean the "great one of 1054? Or one of the previous ones?
oh this will be hard to conquer
from the couple battles I played it seems the AI will go straight for the gates so that is the biggest concern you will be facing. Units still seem to have the ability to burn down gates so it may actually be possible to get through those portions fairly quickly if they are not properly defended
THFE Productions lucky you you can play a pre-relase
Yeah especially if the game doesn't work at all. huehue.
petar tomašević Tell me about it im going for the 4th time to try on the city on hard dif. :|
Use Stalinium! Prove that Ruskies are stronk!!!
These History vids are great, I hope we see more in the future. Constantinople is the city I would have loved to have seen in its prime, more than Rome or Alexandria etc.
Did the Turks throw torches at the door as well?
The Turks were spiting at the door xD
?? Okay??
Tiffian Ruler rome 2 joke ?
Your videos are 10 times better than a documentary on TV.
Only if you limit TV to History Channel.
To add a detail, even Massive Ottoman canons couldn't do a great damage to the walls... It was a simple lucky moment that gave the Ottomans the moment of Victory. Wall Commander was shot, and presumed dead, and wide-spread panic gave way for Jannisarries to grasp the advantage, since the walls were defended by Citizens, but Jannisarries were Elite Soldiers, trained from a young age, for these kinds of situations.
tabi şansa bala aldık şehri, ne garip insanlar var ya, gayrimüslimler bile kabul eder de sen böyle saçmalarsın işte
C1h4d bu bilgi türk bir tarihçi tarafından verilmiştir. Körü körüne birşeylere inanmaktansa, araştırıp doğrusunu kabul etmeyi tercih ederim. Ve şansın, yada eski müslümanların tabiriyle "Allah'ın takdiri"nin savaşlar üzerinde rolü çok büyüktür. Yine belirttiğim gibi, bu anı değerlendirende, dönemin tek profesyonel askeri birliği olan yeniçerilerdir. Eğer tam olarak okuyabilseydiniz, üstünlüğün Osmanlı ordusunun profesyonelliğinde olduğunu vurguladığımı fark ederdiniz. Ve eğer topların, her ne kadar muazzam yapıtlar olsada, surlar üzerinde büyük bir teshiri olmadığını belirtmenin bir hakaret olduğunu düşünmüyorum. Ama bir topun, bugün hala ayakta olan surlar'ın tamamını yıktığına inanıyorsanız, tercih sizin.
araştırdığın kaynağa göre değişir işler, sen biraz farklı yerlerden araştırmışsın anlaşılan
eski müslüman da ne demekse bu arada, çok dindar olmayanlar bile bilir ve inanır ki Allah'ın yardımı olmadan tabii ki zordu Bizans'ı almak, o kadar teknolojik ve askeri üstünlüğe rağmen.
benim demek istediğim yani öyle bir demişsin ki sanki sadece şansa bala aldık, o kadar faktörün yanında
topların yaptığı hasara gelince, büyük hasar veremiyorlardı demişsin, abi topun çapı ne kadar bir kere, nasıl yapmıyordu
ama ben demedim ki koca duvarı havaya uçuruyordu, toplar büyükse de surlar da büyüktü, ve uzun bir süre surdaki hasarları tamir edebilmişlerdi (o konuda yüzyılların tecrübesi vardı adamlarda)
şu anki füzeler bile koca duvarı havaya uçuramazdı, anca yüksek patlayıcı tesiri olan bombalar bir kısmını uçurabilirdi heralde.
Şahi Topunun çapı 91 cm, hatta şu an başka bir yerde daha kullanıldıklarını buldum, Çanakkale savaşı sırasında kullanılmışlar.
Şans, tabi ki faktörde olsa, ben yazımda yeniçerilerin uzmanlığının ön planda olduğunu vurguladım, ki Roma'dan beri görülmemiş bir sistem kullanılması sebebiyle. Uzun uzun yazıp açıklamayı gerekli görmedim tabi ki.
Topların kuşatmada ki kullanımına gelirsek, Şahi topu, kuşatmanın 3.haftasında çatlamıştır, ve en etkin şekilde kullanılamamıştır. Bunun sebebi Surlarla olan mesafesi ve yeniden doldurma süresi. (Yanlış hatırlamıyorsam surlardan 1 kilometre uzaktan atışlar yapılmaya başlanmış, ve doldurma ve soğutma süresi 3 saat civarı) Toplar, özellikle topların kendi ağırlığından ötürü, ve sonrasında savunmaların etkinliği yüzünden, surlara çok yaklaştırmak mümkün olmamıştır.
Sizinde dediğiniz gibi Surlar çok büyüktü. Zaten kuşatmadan sonra, Şahi topları bir daha saldırıda kullanılmamış, Osmanlı nispeten daha küçük topları tercih etmiştir.
Savunma sırasında, surlarda topların atış odağı olan 2 büyük gedik açılmış, fakat kale komutanı vurulana kadar, bu gedikler etkin bir şekilde savunulmuştur. Burada Gustiniani'nin vurulması, panik yaratmış, bunun sonucunda da Yeniçeriler şehre girebilmiştir.
Tabi bunu sürdürürsek eğer, saldıran ve savunan morallerini de incelememiz gerekir, daha çok konuşuruz bunu.
Ez cümle : Gustiniani'nin vurulması gerçekten de kuşatmada bir dönüm noktasıdır, ve şanslı bir andır, bunu değerlendiren de Yeniçerilerdir.
Yes, they were elite but practically all of them were European, not Turkmenistan region. They were forcibly taken from their Christian families at the tender age of 5. Christian Greek families had to pay higher taxes but when they could not afford to pay, they had to submit a son to the Sultan. Many Christian European kingdoms became vassals to the Sultan. When Western Europe found out about this practice, the coined the term, "Savage Turk".
You've got to love those walls. Stunning. What amazing feats of defence. You look at those multiple layers of defence and one can see how Constantinople was able to stand against all comers for almost a Millennia (I don't count the Crusaders - those back stabbing betrayers cheated). A thousand years. That's as far apart as the Battle of Hastings and today! Mind blowing! You can see why it eventually took massive cannons to finally breach the walls.
Does anyone else find it curious that the greatest defences built by the Roman Empire came at the very end of their "classic" history - so late that most people would not even think them properly classically "Roman" at all?
And what a fantastic video. Thank you, job very well done indeed. :)
They were Romans. Byzantine Empire was the continuation of the Roman Empire. Thats why they used the double-headed eagle. One looking West and one looking East.
Can't touch this...
Theodosian wall.
Nah you can... if your a defender
Yes but can it withstand like 30 guys throwing torches at the gates?
Even the greatest walls can't keep out endless hordes of barbarians I guess...
The walls can withstand barbarian hordes Οχι-και-τοσο-γλυκουλης Χρηστος . It just couldn't withstand the infighting within the empire or the gunpowder powered cannon brought by the Ottomans
Οχι-και-τοσο-γλυκουλης Χρηστος do some research about isal all you say is simply wrong
is it? Name one Muslim Nation not having some kind of violence daily? Religious violence I mean.
Chuck.Raney Raney name one nation wich doesnt have any violence ? the religion of islam isnt violent and dont come with some koran verses i know them and i know what they mean and islam isnt violent
Οχι-και-τοσο-γλυκουλης Χρηστος They can't stay in their "own" countries because the OTHER people there, those OTHER Muslims, have created all kinds of violence under the guise of Islam.
That is why it is accepted culture by the Muslims to go into other countries and hire their selves out as fighters.
Those mujaheddin are PAID to fight. It's a traditional occupation. You ever wonder how they form militias so quickly at the drop of a hat?
For those of you that are unaware, when Rome fell to Germanic tribes, Constantinople remained as the capital of the Roman Empire. It made numerous attempts to liberate former territories in the west but could not retain them in the end. Though it's culture was Greek, it continued to be the capital of the Roman Empire until the Ottoman conquest. Rome had long been an empire, not a city state, and the empire was more Greek speaking than Latin. The neologism "Byzantine Empire" was coined only in 1557 by a German historian, Hieronymus Wolf, in his work Corpus Historiæ Byzantinæ. Indeed, the turks themselves called much of their conquered territories Roumelia, land of the Romans.
I love the walls of constantinople, its my most favourite thing about history. it just show how advanced our ancestor was, a thousands of years ago
its not your ancestors, they was greeks, so gtfo ang go back to your cave
It is truly incredible to think that a pre medieval wall was able to hold out attackers for a millenial. Not only that but as it is a Roman wall it is also artistically beautiful to look at and made with carefull planning. I also read somewhere that the moat could be filled with water whenever needed
Constantinople was founded as Byzantium in 658 BC, almost a thousand years before Constantine 'refounded' it.
It was called Byzantion back then, then emperor constantine came and made it what it is.
Regardless, he didn't _found_ it, because it was already a pretty decent city.
Matthew Marden It was a ruin by the times of Constantine. Don't over think it.
Agias It wasn't a ruin, it was a prosperous trading city. Many of its buildings were pretty modern too, the city having been extensively rebuilt by Septimius Severus in 196 AD (admittedly mostly because in taking it, his armies had destroyed large swathes of it).
Matthew Marden It was alright, but Constantine made it into what it is. It's like comparing Londinium to London. It's not quite the same.
and there's me thinking it was founded in about 600bc as "Byzantium"
i am dissapointed why these walls are not considered among the wonders on earth
Of all the things I wish I could go back in time and see, Constantinople during its glory days would be near the top. Even though it never really surpassed Rome in terms of size, it's beautiful architecture and culture actually makes me want to see it more. I can only imagine how breathtaking the city would have been to people like the Varangians/Norse warriors and traders who were used to Wattle and Daub or rough timber houses and castles with a ditch and timber walls for defence to come to Constantinople and see 3 walls, each thicker and stronger then any wall they'd ever seen before at home. Then they walk into the city to see silk and spices the likes of which even kings at home could barely afford and mosaics the likes of which didnt exist in their home country. The Theodosia walls were why a viking army once sailed from Russia/Ukraine and turned around rather then even try to take lay siege or extract danegeld (they often would simply picket outside a city and demand money to leave with the threat of a siege as leverage).
Well done!!!!
I refuse to call it Istanbul. Its Constantine's city.
Propably the greatest decision The eastern Romans ever did. They would never have lasted till the 1400’s without the Theodosian wall
The reason the Eastern Empire lasted a thousand years longer then the West can be traced directly to the great leadership of Anthemius
Great video. Would you ever consider doing a documentary on pyrrhus and the pyrrhic wars.
outstanding work ! greetings from greece !
Wow! Great video!
These are the types of videos that you do best with. I've been waiting for some more historical videos and this was well done.
yup, should have more in the works as well
Greetings from 2020. This video was super helpful. I write (bad) fantasy stories, and one problem I've come across is figuring out what the walls of an ancient city might look like. It's surprisingly hard to find this information when you want it. This video gave me every answer I needed.
there is a reason why this city remained unconquered for 1000 years
Bonjour.
Could I know what software you color in your maps? I want to know how to bring up the color has a specific location on a map, like here for example by : 0:22
(excuse me, I use google translation)
Oasis De Citations ᴴᴰ I just use photoshop to add in some graphical details like that color
THFE Productions *Thank you ;)*
Keep making this kind of videos! Most people stil think that Turks are invading Europe and that world is flat not round. That's why whe need to keep making this kind of educatieve videos.
And you dare call yourself Roman?
Don't listen to these retards Lucius. Anyone who unironically says "white genocide" has an IQ in the single digits
Awesome! Love your videos dude! Was wondering if you fancied doing a video on Hadrian's wall. I recently only just found out that the Roman's build another wall to keep the picts out - the Antonine Wall to the north. Pretty cool stuff!
TL;DR It a Bitch to attack
can you do these with the persian war like battle of the marathon or Thermopylae or salamis that would be cool
I don't seem to remember any attack made by the Crusaders in 1097? In-fact they were allowed to enter the city to speak to the Byzantine Emperor, since the Crusaders and Byzantines were supposed to be working together!
And also the Sacking of Constantinople in 1204 was only possible because of betrayal caused by a Byzantine prince being unable to pay the Crusaders!
as far as I know, in 1453 , the ottomans had an engineer who build the biggest cannon ever on the spot, as it could not have been dragged a long way. At that time the walls where already just a rememberance of what they used to be. The folk in the city also did not rush to defend it, but venetian and genoan help managed to stop the naval assault. The ottomans had their cannon destroyed by concentrated , accurate fire from smaller cannons on the walls and resorted to building fortresses around the city to prevent provision or help to get in (or out). This is just a suplimentary piece of information for those interested. Otherwise, great video man
the man that was key to defending Constantinople in its final stand is Giovanni Giustiniani. There is also a fictional (but still pretty accurate book) picturing the fall of the city
where you read that? as far as i know the Byzantines had cannons but they stop using them when they realize that the walls cant stand the recoil. Also the ottaman grand cannons could breach the cities walls as least in a huge scale because it took too long to reload and fire and in the meanwhile the defenders repaired the walls as much as possible
Didn.t quite understand everything. They destroyed the great cannon that i know.
Did they destroy it? I've read that the giant cannon exploded from overuse
Thanks THFE, Its always good learn more about romans, otomans and byzantines :)
Unconquered for 1000 years wow 😳
Nova Roma 330 AD
Konstantinoupolis 337 AD
Konstantiniyye 1,453 AD
Istanbul 1,930 AD
We almost conquered it, but our khan died somehow at the night before the attack ....
Theodosis 2:No one can destroy these walls
Memed 2:Fire the Bazilika balls
Huh? In 1097 crusaders were INVITED in the city, there was no siege. It was the first crusade, and the result of it was the siege and recapture of Nicaea by the byzantines, with the crusade continuing their march towards Jerusalem. The only crusade to attack Constantinople was in 1204.
The larger the walls could weaken the defence instead. You need to garrison more troops to fill the entire walls and towers.
The enemy could also demoralize or disintegrate socio-politically and even culturally through continuous propaganda. In fact, in later years, the capital suffered from massive population decline
Excellent video. This past semester, I wrote a twelve page historiography paper for the Fall of Constantinople, and I read a book that mentioned people putting the name of which person and/or family renovated a particular tower. Those walls were impressive.
I rely on this six year old video whenever I need to educate myself about the walls. No one has done it better.
I think they should have filled the gap between the walls with spikes like Caesar did at the Battle of Alesia. Might have stopped Crusader cavalry in 1204.
and now became istanbul...wow..
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It didn't offically become Istanbul until the fall of the Ottoman Empire in the 20th century.
really? source pls?
"Kostantiniyye (Arabic القسطنطينية, al-Qusṭanṭiniyah, Ottoman Turkish قسطنطينيه Kostantiniyye) is the name by which the city came to be known in the Islamic world. It is an Arabic calqued form of Constantinople, with an Arabic ending meaning 'place of' instead of the Greek element -polis. After the Ottoman conquest of 1453, it was used as the most formal official name in Ottoman Turkish, and remained in use throughout most of the time up to the fall of the empire in 1923. "
"Thus, Kostantiniyye was used on coinage up to the late 17th and then again in the 19th century."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Istanbul#Kostantiniyye
the city was called istanbul at the times of the byzantines as well. the name means "to the city", istanpolis; something like that. the name of the city changed due to administrative matters in 1920s.
Even if the Turks call it Istanbul it will always be Constantinople in my eyes
Very well done!
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In the fourth crusade the crusaders were let in by the byzantines, they didn't invade by the sea
yes and then they pillaged and sacked the city, from which the citiy never recovered and was easy to take by the Ottomans
They invaded it 2 times, the 2nd where they invaded it once they didn't receive enough payment.
A very noble cause indeed.
Royal Radish Nope. The Venetians had tall masted ships that had ladders that were lowered onto the lightly defended sea walls.
Learn your history bud
Still a tragedy that Constantinople was lost to the ottomans. Maybe we should make Istanbul Constantinople again.......
total war put this video on their facebook site that's so cool congrats
Yeah I have to thank Will and Craig for helping me out with that : )
LONG LIVE TO THE THOUSAND YEARS EMPIRE
Then the ottomans came and passed into history, as a mere monarchy, BUT Rome shaped the world from west to the east, in this world even the ottomans who conquered the last Roman holdings were forced to adapt.
amazing video brother greetings from Greece!
Hey THFE Productions, I love your videos so much. It's just incredibly beautiful to watch with the Rome 2 engine, and you seem to have done your reading very thoroughly which is even better. Very emotional as well for history lovers. BTW, have you heard of the book 'The Grand Strategy of the Byzantine Empire' by Edward Luttwak? If you're into Byzantium, you're going to love the sheer detail and tons of briliant insights. Thanks, looking forward to watching more!!
If the gate wasn't left open, it could have survived to this very day!
It would survived longer but not that long, i mean if most of the most powerful European kingdoms decided to fully help Byzantium in 1453 and to protect her like if it was First Rome, yes then it could have recovered as long as recaptured lands were given back to the Byzantines so they could have income to pay their troops (their troops at this point was mainly mercenaries)
I would have liked it a lot if you had incorporated some pictures of the walls today but except for that really cool video :)
Excellent presentation. Not hard to where Tolkien got his inspiration for Minis Tirith.
Russians didn't exist in the 800s, u mean the Ukrainian Rus, Russians only 1st existed in the 1000s
The wall towers used to have flat battlement roofs, not triangular tiled roofs.
Damn, and to think I knew nothing about these walls minutes ago. Thanks man, can't wait to see more!
"Our *Byzantine walls* can't repel firepower of that magnitude!"
Just today I began reading Marcus Aurelius' Meditations and there's a reference early on to the "blues" and "greens", which I now get thanks to your video. Keep on doing the good work
I watched the sunset while on top of one of the towers that are still standing today
This is awesome, brilliant work man! I love your unique content.
Wow! such a amazing video! I love to learn something new and the way you are able to present the information is astonishing. Please keep videos like these coming! thank you!
many total war youtubers and for many i mean almost all dont know a crap about history , but fortunately you know it so thank you for the great video
You know, it seems a majority of these battles were in part decided by natural intervention. An earthquake nearly brought down this stronghold. Amazing.
your documentaries are the BEST thing ever..i watched many documentaries on TV, many historical YT channel...but these are probably the most interesting ones i ever seen :)!
Russians never attacked Constantiople. Kievan Rus, which were Swedish Vikings living in Eastern Europe did.
They weren't Swedish - they were actually from a small area on the west of what is now Russia. (I just learned this recently.) I also learned that Vikings weren't nec. from Sweden, Denmark etc. Anyone was free to join a Viking expedition.
Excellent video. Thank you.
The Siege of 626 was by the Avars - the Persians were essentially stranded across the Bosphorus watching. Apart from that, superb video!
and I get crabby when I have to dig a flower bed
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Fantastically made video! Definitely worth watching as not only you put the effort in, you have shared a great amount of detail to us which you put the effort of researching, and it was worth listening. I have to say this video gave me more knowledge on the city then I previously known. Although I knew it, I know so much more thanks to you.
A well made video worth watching! Thanks for the facts as well!
Looking forward to this game, will love to play as the ERE :D
Before 330 AD, the city was called Byzantium and had been part of the Roman empire since the end of the first century AD. The city was founded as a Greek colony almost 7 centuries BCE. It was called Constantinople after the death of the Emperor Constantine. When the Ottomans conquered it in 1453, it was eventually named Istanbul (though not formally until 1930).
Man I never get tired of hearing about Constantinople. Those walls. Dat hagia sophia. Dem blues and greens. I reeeaaally like these historical videos brah. 10/10 would watch again
love your historical videos this and punic wars.i love history and read a small amount of books but this helps me gain more knowledge in things i like so much.
Thank you, I will be able to use the explanations here to write a chapter in my epic novel, where Constantinople falls temporarily to the power of the Venetian and Norman crusaders in 1204. I needed a good depiction of how the walls looked and how the Crusaders had attacked them, and your video gives me important info.
Well, I sure hope you wont get Writer's block like I do when I try to write my stories. :)
Kaylasa JaguarStar Is this supposed to be irony remarking about the fourth crusade?
Stellar music choice! I don't know where you found this stuff, but it's GOLD!
OTTOMAN EMPIRE ! - Biz geçtik o duvardan
why don't you use metric measurements?
To band someone forgot to close a gate :(
Awsome video i learned a lot hope you can make more of this
Excellent informational video. Thanks for posting!
_Dudul_ the word for 'willy' in Middle Persian, was actually a short and garbled form of _Theodosius_, Byzantine emperor who was supposedly adopted by Izdegerdes.
Great video. I'm sure we'll be able to cheese it in the actual game though but whatever.
*Nit pick: You should've just said "Source material" for your sources. Primary sources are original (historical) material, as opposed to secondary sources, which you used.
I checked the video quality and it was 360 but it looks like 1080p minimum if not better Good Job
Better than anything i've seen on History channel recently.
It wasn't the cannons that did the job, but gate of the defences that was closed too slowly during the siege right after troops from the city went out to do skirmishes to the invading forces.