Thank you, I just ordered the 4 ways and the spinner, hope to install them this weekend. I only knew of the ultimarc's servo sticks which are much bulkier and of course UK shipping.
I saw on a video that you can connect the gamer pro control deck to a ALU 1.1 version. Now that I see that you were able to add the button hole spinner, I will be able to replace the original control deck with the gamer pro and not miss my spinner.
wow this is perfect for a soft modded simpsons cab... I already added the 12 in 1 interface board to it so I can use the existing trackball in mame and in the stock game. So adding these will make it perfect. I ordered a spinner. but the restrictor gates are unavailable right now :( But that's not too big a deal for me, but after watching you demo it, I do want it :) lol, That's pretty awesome how that works....
How did you install it? How are the GRS TOS Switchable 4-to-8-way Restrictor Gate and GRS USB Button Hole Spinner powered? How do you supply power to them? I have the Legends Gamer Mini hooked to my TV and not in a Arcade AtGames Cabinet so I don't want to have to plug it in to the Core Puck or a 12 volt AC Adapter to power it. I don't want to have the power cable to tie me down, I prefer to go wireless since this is the ages of wireless controllers.
At 3:32 text pops up about 1UP Arcade cabinets and PCs it says something about not having to do any drilling, what exactly does this mean and where can I find more info on this? I ask because this can also be done with AtGames Systems by using a second 2 in 1 button either from this GRS TOS Switchable 4-to-8-way Restrictor Gate kit or from another manufacture of some kind of 2 in 1 button.
Yes, no drilling is required of you already have enough available buttons that you can swap out. If you don't want to swap any of your buttons out then you can drill a hole and add it.
Thanks for the video. I am ordering the gamer pro over legend ultimate for space reasons and really lament not having the spinners. Can I build the GRS spinner in it's own small box with the 2 buttons and use that by plugging into the Core USB?
The GRS spinner needs to be connected via USB to the Core in order for it to work. Also, only the GRS V1 spinner will work. The V2 spinners are too sensitive. They are no longer sold so you may have to hunt them down. It's my understanding that all Amazon stock is now V2. And, V2 is only sold through thunderstickstudio.com. V2 will work on the lowest setting but is still overly sensitive. It's not the fault of the GRS product. It's just the way it works on the AtGames products.
Question for you: I'm looking to do this same mod to my Legends Gamer Pro and I just want to make sure I understand how you wired this for power and connectivity with the USB hub. If I plug the spinner, restrictor control board, and the stick itself into a non-powered hub and then plug the hub into the core unit itself, it will draw enough power to run the restrictor gates and also connect the stick and the spinner to the core? Seems like that's what you're saying, I just want to make sure before I pull the trigger!
I added a sabrent non-powered hub inside the gamer prol. I have a cable coming out of the USB port on the back of the control panel fed inside the deck to the hub that I connected the spinner and the restrictor gate board to. Then that hub is connected to the core with a detachable USB cable. I have seen some issues where you may need to have a powered hub connected to your core. I have no trouble plugging the cable directly into the core that came with my gamer pro but for some reason it does not work without a powered hub connected to my mini gamer core. I don't know if there is some variation in the cores but it does seem that the core that came with my mini gamer is putting out less power via the USB port. But if you do use a powered hub on any core it will definitely work.
@@GlenBaisley I'm still a little fuzzy about why the interior Sabrent USB hub is connected to the built-in USB port on the back of the Gamer Pro. It sounds like: Everything is connected to/powered by the puck through the connection between the puck and the USB hub. The hub serves as conduit that allows the Spinner to communicate with the Puck (Spinner USB to USB hub, then USB hub to Puck USB); the hub serves as a conduit that allows Gamer Pro's 2 joysticks, trackball, and 20 buttons to communicate with the Puck (Gamer Pro built-in USB connection in the back to USB hub, then USB hub to Puck USB); and finally, the hub serves as a conduit for powering the Gate Switch (Gate Switch PCB USB to USB hub, then USB hub to Puck USB). Is this correct?
Hello Sir I’m curious do you think this could fit and work on an 8bitdo arcade stick? I really want to build an arcade cabinet for my Nintendo switch using 2 of those controllers
I have installed everything following your recommendations - thanks for posting this video! However, I'm have issues with the spinner being recognized. As you describe, the spinner is connected to the USB hub I have installed inside the control box. The Hub is connect to the Mini USB jackon the puck (the USB hub I is powered, just to be "safe"). However, I can't determine where/how to configure the Spinner for games. You show it being recognized as a trackball in the diagnostic software - where is this app found? I can't seem to locate the diagnostic in the various setup apps included with the Gamer Pro. The controller doesn't seem to automatically recognize the spinner, and I don't see it when I go into button mapping. It's as if nothing as been added. But otherwise, everything works as it should - the buttons, joysticks, trackball, and the flash drive I added.
There is nothing to map. You can go into Settings and choose Health Check and then the Trackball Test to confirm it is working. When you rotate the spinner you should see the red dot move left and right. When you roll the trackball the dot will move all over the screen. It sounds like something might not be wired correctly. You want to make sure that the USB port on the back of the Gamer Pro has a cable feeding back into the control deck to the USB hub. I used the USB cable that the Core came with. The gate changer's Arduino board and GRS spinner will also plug into the hub inside the control deck. Then the hub's USB cable feeds out the back of the control deck through the same hole that the other USB cable feeds into. I then connected a female-to-male USB cable to the hub's USB cable coming out of the back which connects to a powered or passive hub on the other end. That hub is plugged into the Core.
@@GlenBaisley Thanks. Everything is working - maybe the "Health Check" did something or maybe a cable was simply loose. So now the hurdle is sensitivity... while some of the five in-game settings (Very Low to Very High) work for some of the games, the lowest setting is still too sensitive for other games. I guess I'll have to live with it. It is a great piece of hardware, though!
I could not get the Core that comes with it to work with a spinner. I believe the firmware that is in the Gamer Mini Core does not support a trackball therefore you can't use a spinner with it. I don't have the ALU Mini but I'm assuming it's the same issue with that as well. I will be testing it with a Core Max once I get one.
Thanks for the video. What’s the secret sauce to getting one button controlling two sticks? I see no need to control them separately on my gamer either.
@@GlenBaisley so player one joystick 3 pin wire to board a. 5 pin wire board a to button. Player two joystick 3 pin wire to board b. No 5 pin wire used. That’s it? Then I somehow program the board how to use that one button to swap both gates?
@@GlenBaisley my bad. I had the 3 pin wire backwards on stick 2. Damn my failing eyesight. Thanks. Works great now. Just need to find a way to calibrate it now.
The push pull spinner will work on Legends products only if you can find version 1 which is no longer available on the GRS or Amazon websites. Also, the push and pull feature will not work on Legends products. Only the spinner feature will. So you would only want version one if you also plan on using it with a PC or Raspberry Pie.
Just wondering if the recent reports I've read about the GRS spinner being overly sensitive are accurate? Can anyone confirm this as I'm about to pull the trigger on buying one for my Legends Gamer Pro.
Is there anyway to get just the 2 in 1 Push Button or is there another brand of button that is the same size as the Button Hole on the Legends Series systems and where do you get the adapter wires that allow you to hook up just the button to the wires that attach to the wire that the original buttons attached to? I don't want buy a second Servo Motor just to get a second 2 in1 Button I'll use as the Home/Player 1 start buttons. If I don't have to I don't want to be cutting holes in my Gamer Mini so I'll put the first 2 in 1 button that controls the Servo Motor where the Home button is and use a second 2 in 1 button as the Home Button and Player 1 button so I can keep the rewind Button easy to hit during game play.
@@dallase1 Not sure about replacing home and player 1 as the wiring is different. The button and wiring are not sold separately either. I have never seen this type of button used elsewhere.
Do you know if the Legends Pro stand alone stick's trackball can be upgraded with the GRS Trackball? Can u do a video on it if you upgrade? I heard the GRS Trackball is amazing compared to stock.
At present, it's just for Arcade1Up. The trackball is also smaller than the one used in the Legends products. I think there might be another in the works but not sure. Definitely recommend following the GRS channel for product updates.
It's a very popular item. I would just keep it on your wishlist and jump on it as soon as they become available. Also, follow GRS on Facebook for product announcements. facebook.com/groups/783135818505992
Very Cool! :) I built a smaller bartop sized arcade cabinet so there's not so much vertical space. Do you think there's anyway to hack/alter the design for such a situation?
The push pull spinner is not supported right now with the AtGames firmware. Keep in mind that with my mod the spinner is plugging into one of the USB ports on the Legends Ultimate or the Core using a USB hub.
If the Spinner shows up as a track ball and you said "because the spinner shows up as a track ball you're unable to add a second one " does that mean it disables the track ball when the spinner is hooked up because the Legends Ultimate and Legends Gamer only support one track ball?
It does not disable the trackball. Both will work. You can't add 2 spinners though. Only one is supported. It will function on the same input as the trackball. You can see that at 4:10 in my video.
Yes, the spinner just connects with USB to a USB Hub on your Core or to a USB port on the Legends Ultimate. This will not work with the push pull spinner as the firmware on the AtGames devices does not support it.
It will work on all standard joysticks like Suzo Happ, for example, or clones. It won't work on specialty sticks like the GRS Tron stick but there will be a special version coming out for that this year through GRS.
@@ABCD-iz3bl It won't work for two players because the Gamer Pro wasn't designed to have spinners so it's not supported in the firmware. It just happens to work because it will see it as the trackball.
Glen, how do I get the legends gamer pro to recognize the GRS spinner? There is a USB port on the back which I plugged it into and it can’t seem to find it in the settings. Do I have to open the unit and unplug the trackball?
Hi, I purchased this product and it AWESOME! Have it on two joysticks and its a game changer. I would like to get the software to work so it selects 4 or 8 way based on game. I am using batocera. Do you know anyone who got it to work on batocera or where I can go to get steps. Thanks.
I have not done it personally. I have only ever seen it done with Launchbox, because to the best of knowledge, it has to be set up per MAME ROM so you need to enable a script upon launch of the game and Launchbox is easier to work with. I'll inquire with Glen from GRS to see if he can point me in the right direction. It's been on my list of things to look into for a while.
Depends on where it's shipped to but I paid around $75 for a set. That was a while back so I'm not sure if prices have changed. Worth every penny! I know he is super busy with orders and a one man band so be patient if you don't hear back from him right away and just keep trying.
It looks like it just changes the angle of the 4-way restrictor and not offer a true 8-way restrictor. Am I missing something? In other words, when you switch to the 8-way, it looks like it limits the movement up, down, left, and right.
It is switching between a four-way gate and an eight-way square gate. Eight way is more commonly used in Japanese arcades, particularly with fighting games, but you will get eight-way movement.
No it doesn't. Dont confuse an 8 way restrictor with an octogonal gate. Both allow to trigger left/right up/down and all diagonals. Octogonal can be benefitial within games that require fast circular movements of the joystick as the octogonal shape prevents the edges of the square where the movement could accidentialy get caught by the square shapes edges. But as explained before, both, square and octogonal allow for triggering of all 8 directions (while diamond for 4-way guides the joystick shaft reliably between up/down/left/right while preventing diagonals).
Your missing something. When you use a Japanese square gate diagonally it limits diagonals. When used regularly you can do diagonals just fine in fact even easier which is why shoryukens etc are easier to pull off
I sent a email to Stefan Burgers 4-to-8 way Restrictor Gate and have not heard anything. He must be overwhelmed with sales orders. But think he could respond with a email.
There's really not much to show. You just slip the gates over the sticks, plug them into the arduino board along with the button and power supply and you are ready to go. That's why I show shots of the inside once installed. If I did the install in real-time the video would have been way too long. The hardest part was getting off my existing gates to pop on the new ones and drilling the hole to mount the button.
The problem with this is it requires physical modification to the device requiring special tools that most people don't have and most people don't have the skill to cut holes in their device and run power cables. Also this product is expensive. Why not just provide a link to where one can buy Square Restrictor Gates so they can buy them and save money since a little piece of plastic is way cheaper than some thing with a motor in it that requires a much more complicated process to install? I've seen some Restrictor Gates that can switch between 4 way and 8 way by rotating a plastic center piece.You don't provide a link to how to install the Switchable 4-to-8-way Restrictor Gate and GRS USB Button Hole Spinner.
It's not very expensive at all. A single unit is only $35, almost half the cost of a Mag-Stik-Plus that requires you to replace your joystick and doesn't have a very good throw distance. The GRS device can support up to 4 sticks and work with virtually any stick out there. I am not handy at all and never did a mod before this. Most people have a drill laying around and the bit is like $25. It's actually a pretty easy installation. Being able to switch between 4 and 8 way on the fly is way more convenient and easy than swapping out plastic gates every time you want to change your control type. This is not for everyone but for those want the best experience, it's totally worth it. Instructions for hole size and installation for the GRS products come with the products so I didn't show that here. I only provided an overview of the wiring for my particular mod in the video description.
I just installed the 4 to 8 way gate on my ALU today. It's perfect and needed for some old classics.
This is exactly what I wanted to do with my control deck. Thank you very much. I ordered the parts using your link.
Thank you, I just ordered the 4 ways and the spinner, hope to install them this weekend. I only knew of the ultimarc's servo sticks which are much bulkier and of course UK shipping.
Thanks for the review and feedback in the comments. I contacted Stefan and have one on the way!!!
That's pretty good. Mine is just Legends Gamer Pro TableTop Arcade when I order from eBay.
I just bought and installed these. They're awesome.
Fantastic product! There is a "Tron" gate restrictor for the flight stick. That will also be compatible with the upcoming Ikari Warriors stick.
Awesome review. I will have to get one of the gate changer very soon
I saw on a video that you can connect the gamer pro control deck to a ALU 1.1 version. Now that I see that you were able to add the button hole spinner, I will be able to replace the original control deck with the gamer pro and not miss my spinner.
You won't be able to have 2 spinners for both players 1 and 2 but yes, this still will give you a spinner.
wow this is perfect for a soft modded simpsons cab... I already added the 12 in 1 interface board to it so I can use the existing trackball in mame and in the stock game. So adding these will make it perfect. I ordered a spinner. but the restrictor gates are unavailable right now :( But that's not too big a deal for me, but after watching you demo it, I do want it :) lol, That's pretty awesome how that works....
That thing is amazing. Very cool.
How did you install it? How are the GRS TOS Switchable 4-to-8-way Restrictor Gate and GRS USB Button Hole Spinner powered? How do you supply power to them? I have the Legends Gamer Mini hooked to my TV and not in a Arcade AtGames Cabinet so I don't want to have to plug it in to the Core Puck or a 12 volt AC Adapter to power it. I don't want to have the power cable to tie me down, I prefer to go wireless since this is the ages of wireless controllers.
The answers are in my video and in the video description. That will work with the gamer mini as well.
At 3:32 text pops up about 1UP Arcade cabinets and PCs it says something about not having to do any drilling, what exactly does this mean and where can I find more info on this? I ask because this can also be done with AtGames Systems by using a second 2 in 1 button either from this GRS TOS Switchable 4-to-8-way Restrictor Gate kit or from another manufacture of some kind of 2 in 1 button.
Yes, no drilling is required of you already have enough available buttons that you can swap out. If you don't want to swap any of your buttons out then you can drill a hole and add it.
Great review! Love it!
Thanks for the video. I am ordering the gamer pro over legend ultimate for space reasons and really lament not having the spinners. Can I build the GRS spinner in it's own small box with the 2 buttons and use that by plugging into the Core USB?
The GRS spinner needs to be connected via USB to the Core in order for it to work. Also, only the GRS V1 spinner will work. The V2 spinners are too sensitive. They are no longer sold so you may have to hunt them down. It's my understanding that all Amazon stock is now V2. And, V2 is only sold through thunderstickstudio.com. V2 will work on the lowest setting but is still overly sensitive. It's not the fault of the GRS product. It's just the way it works on the AtGames products.
Thank you for posting this video. Do you know if the pins on the board that are built into the Legends Gamer are still disabled?
As far as I am aware they still are disabled but I'm not entirely sure.
Question for you: I'm looking to do this same mod to my Legends Gamer Pro and I just want to make sure I understand how you wired this for power and connectivity with the USB hub. If I plug the spinner, restrictor control board, and the stick itself into a non-powered hub and then plug the hub into the core unit itself, it will draw enough power to run the restrictor gates and also connect the stick and the spinner to the core? Seems like that's what you're saying, I just want to make sure before I pull the trigger!
I added a sabrent non-powered hub inside the gamer prol. I have a cable coming out of the USB port on the back of the control panel fed inside the deck to the hub that I connected the spinner and the restrictor gate board to. Then that hub is connected to the core with a detachable USB cable. I have seen some issues where you may need to have a powered hub connected to your core. I have no trouble plugging the cable directly into the core that came with my gamer pro but for some reason it does not work without a powered hub connected to my mini gamer core. I don't know if there is some variation in the cores but it does seem that the core that came with my mini gamer is putting out less power via the USB port. But if you do use a powered hub on any core it will definitely work.
@@GlenBaisley Perfect, that's all I needed to know!
@@GlenBaisley I'm still a little fuzzy about why the interior Sabrent USB hub is connected to the built-in USB port on the back of the Gamer Pro. It sounds like: Everything is connected to/powered by the puck through the connection between the puck and the USB hub. The hub serves as conduit that allows the Spinner to communicate with the Puck (Spinner USB to USB hub, then USB hub to Puck USB); the hub serves as a conduit that allows Gamer Pro's 2 joysticks, trackball, and 20 buttons to communicate with the Puck (Gamer Pro built-in USB connection in the back to USB hub, then USB hub to Puck USB); and finally, the hub serves as a conduit for powering the Gate Switch (Gate Switch PCB USB to USB hub, then USB hub to Puck USB). Is this correct?
@@privacyplease8057 That's correct.
@@GlenBaisley Thanks!
Hello Sir I’m curious do you think this could fit and work on an 8bitdo arcade stick? I really want to build an arcade cabinet for my Nintendo switch using 2 of those controllers
I'm not sure. I have never used one.
I have installed everything following your recommendations - thanks for posting this video! However, I'm have issues with the spinner being recognized. As you describe, the spinner is connected to the USB hub I have installed inside the control box. The Hub is connect to the Mini USB jackon the puck (the USB hub I is powered, just to be "safe"). However, I can't determine where/how to configure the Spinner for games. You show it being recognized as a trackball in the diagnostic software - where is this app found? I can't seem to locate the diagnostic in the various setup apps included with the Gamer Pro. The controller doesn't seem to automatically recognize the spinner, and I don't see it when I go into button mapping. It's as if nothing as been added. But otherwise, everything works as it should - the buttons, joysticks, trackball, and the flash drive I added.
There is nothing to map. You can go into Settings and choose Health Check and then the Trackball Test to confirm it is working. When you rotate the spinner you should see the red dot move left and right. When you roll the trackball the dot will move all over the screen. It sounds like something might not be wired correctly. You want to make sure that the USB port on the back of the Gamer Pro has a cable feeding back into the control deck to the USB hub. I used the USB cable that the Core came with. The gate changer's Arduino board and GRS spinner will also plug into the hub inside the control deck. Then the hub's USB cable feeds out the back of the control deck through the same hole that the other USB cable feeds into. I then connected a female-to-male USB cable to the hub's USB cable coming out of the back which connects to a powered or passive hub on the other end. That hub is plugged into the Core.
@@GlenBaisley Thanks. Everything is working - maybe the "Health Check" did something or maybe a cable was simply loose. So now the hurdle is sensitivity... while some of the five in-game settings (Very Low to Very High) work for some of the games, the lowest setting is still too sensitive for other games. I guess I'll have to live with it. It is a great piece of hardware, though!
I assume you can add a GRS USB Button Hole Spinner to a Legends Gamer Mini since it's the Gamer Pro that is 1 player only and has no Trackball?
I could not get the Core that comes with it to work with a spinner. I believe the firmware that is in the Gamer Mini Core does not support a trackball therefore you can't use a spinner with it. I don't have the ALU Mini but I'm assuming it's the same issue with that as well. I will be testing it with a Core Max once I get one.
Thanks for the video. What’s the secret sauce to getting one button controlling two sticks? I see no need to control them separately on my gamer either.
The Arduino board can control up to 4 sticks with one button.
@@GlenBaisley so player one joystick 3 pin wire to board a. 5 pin wire board a to button. Player two joystick 3 pin wire to board b. No 5 pin wire used. That’s it? Then I somehow program the board how to use that one button to swap both gates?
@@BraddyP There is no programming involved. You just plug the connectors for each gate switcher into the Arduino board and it works.
@@GlenBaisley my bad. I had the 3 pin wire backwards on stick 2. Damn my failing eyesight. Thanks. Works great now. Just need to find a way to calibrate it now.
@@BraddyP You can calibrate it using their software. thunderjoystick.com/products/GRS-TOS/tos428config_setup.zip
Nice video and job 👍☺️
nice but i was wondering if getting the Push Pull Spinner would be better and would it be able to work as well? Re: Tron game.
The push pull spinner will work on Legends products only if you can find version 1 which is no longer available on the GRS or Amazon websites. Also, the push and pull feature will not work on Legends products. Only the spinner feature will. So you would only want version one if you also plan on using it with a PC or Raspberry Pie.
@@GlenBaisley Great Thank You for the info, i saw someone use this on an arcade 1up cab and was wondering if it would work with the legends.
@@clumaster The only thing it's currently used for on Arcade 1Up is the Tron cabinet.
Just wondering if the recent reports I've read about the GRS spinner being overly sensitive are accurate? Can anyone confirm this as I'm about to pull the trigger on buying one for my Legends Gamer Pro.
Is there anyway to get just the 2 in 1 Push Button or is there another brand of button that is the same size as the Button Hole on the Legends Series systems and where do you get the adapter wires that allow you to hook up just the button to the wires that attach to the wire that the original buttons attached to? I don't want buy a second Servo Motor just to get a second 2 in1 Button I'll use as the Home/Player 1 start buttons. If I don't have to I don't want to be cutting holes in my Gamer Mini so I'll put the first 2 in 1 button that controls the Servo Motor where the Home button is and use a second 2 in 1 button as the Home Button and Player 1 button so I can keep the rewind Button easy to hit during game play.
The button and wires come with the gate changer.
But that's for the Servo Motor and not the connectors on the original buttons like player one and Rewind and the home / Menu buttons.
@@dallase1 Not sure about replacing home and player 1 as the wiring is different. The button and wiring are not sold separately either. I have never seen this type of button used elsewhere.
Do you know if the Legends Pro stand alone stick's trackball can be upgraded with the GRS Trackball? Can u do a video on it if you upgrade? I heard the GRS Trackball is amazing compared to stock.
At present, it's just for Arcade1Up. The trackball is also smaller than the one used in the Legends products. I think there might be another in the works but not sure. Definitely recommend following the GRS channel for product updates.
This looks great, how would i order one of the all in one kits? They are unavailable on Amazon via the link. Thank You
It's a very popular item. I would just keep it on your wishlist and jump on it as soon as they become available. Also, follow GRS on Facebook for product announcements. facebook.com/groups/783135818505992
Very Cool! :)
I built a smaller bartop sized arcade cabinet so there's not so much vertical space.
Do you think there's anyway to hack/alter the design for such a situation?
You could probably add the button to the back but I don't think there is much you can do with the gate changers.
Can you get this with light up bat tops and 6 pound springs?
Also, what about adding a spinner with a push/pull for tron disc? Can it be done?
The push pull spinner is not supported right now with the AtGames firmware. Keep in mind that with my mod the spinner is plugging into one of the USB ports on the Legends Ultimate or the Core using a USB hub.
If the Spinner shows up as a track ball and you said "because the spinner shows up as a track ball you're unable to add a second one " does that mean it disables the track ball when the spinner is hooked up because the Legends Ultimate and Legends Gamer only support one track ball?
It does not disable the trackball. Both will work. You can't add 2 spinners though. Only one is supported. It will function on the same input as the trackball. You can see that at 4:10 in my video.
does the spinner connect to the hub with no other mod. Do I just make the hole, mount and run the usb to hub?
Yes, the spinner just connects with USB to a USB Hub on your Core or to a USB port on the Legends Ultimate. This will not work with the push pull spinner as the firmware on the AtGames devices does not support it.
I've reached out to Stefan but never heard back. Is he still taking orders? I wanted to order 2 sets....
Best to reach him via Facebook Messenger.
Yeah, I did try to reach him via FB messenger... no response.
Will this work on all joystick? Also the spinner I want to add to my tmnt arcade 1up . Is that possible also ? Thank you
It will work on all standard joysticks like Suzo Happ, for example, or clones. It won't work on specialty sticks like the GRS Tron stick but there will be a special version coming out for that this year through GRS.
Where do I purchase this for my AtGames legend ultimate.
Contact Stefan Burger on Facebook Instant Messenger or stefan.burger@gmx.com to place an order.
So does having the spinner now render the trackball useless or reads as an additional one?
It uses the exact same input as the trackball so you can use one or the other.
There should be a way to use both, considering the Legends Gamer Pro Ultimate gets it done.
@@ABCD-iz3bl It won't work for two players because the Gamer Pro wasn't designed to have spinners so it's not supported in the firmware. It just happens to work because it will see it as the trackball.
Glen, how do I get the legends gamer pro to recognize the GRS spinner? There is a USB port on the back which I plugged it into and it can’t seem to find it in the settings. Do I have to open the unit and unplug the trackball?
Hi, I purchased this product and it AWESOME! Have it on two joysticks and its a game changer. I would like to get the software to work so it selects 4 or 8 way based on game. I am using batocera. Do you know anyone who got it to work on batocera or where I can go to get steps. Thanks.
I have not done it personally. I have only ever seen it done with Launchbox, because to the best of knowledge, it has to be set up per MAME ROM so you need to enable a script upon launch of the game and Launchbox is easier to work with. I'll inquire with Glen from GRS to see if he can point me in the right direction. It's been on my list of things to look into for a while.
@@GlenBaisley Ok thanks. Any help is apprciated.
How much is the gate changer? I don't want to bother Stefan with a simple question like this.
Depends on where it's shipped to but I paid around $75 for a set. That was a while back so I'm not sure if prices have changed. Worth every penny! I know he is super busy with orders and a one man band so be patient if you don't hear back from him right away and just keep trying.
It looks like it just changes the angle of the 4-way restrictor and not offer a true 8-way restrictor. Am I missing something? In other words, when you switch to the 8-way, it looks like it limits the movement up, down, left, and right.
It is switching between a four-way gate and an eight-way square gate. Eight way is more commonly used in Japanese arcades, particularly with fighting games, but you will get eight-way movement.
No it doesn't. Dont confuse an 8 way restrictor with an octogonal gate. Both allow to trigger left/right up/down and all diagonals. Octogonal can be benefitial within games that require fast circular movements of the joystick as the octogonal shape prevents the edges of the square where the movement could accidentialy get caught by the square shapes edges. But as explained before, both, square and octogonal allow for triggering of all 8 directions (while diamond for 4-way guides the joystick shaft reliably between up/down/left/right while preventing diagonals).
Your missing something. When you use a Japanese square gate diagonally it limits diagonals. When used regularly you can do diagonals just fine in fact even easier which is why shoryukens etc are easier to pull off
How do I buy one? (4-to-8-way) Thanks so much!
Stefan's contact info is in the description.
I sent a email to Stefan Burgers 4-to-8 way Restrictor Gate and have not heard anything. He must be overwhelmed with sales orders. But think he could respond with a email.
He is usually pretty busy. You may want to try to reach out to him through Messenger on Facebook as well.
BRAINS!
Why no install video for the review. I mean shouldn't the install be part of the review ?
There's really not much to show. You just slip the gates over the sticks, plug them into the arduino board along with the button and power supply and you are ready to go. That's why I show shots of the inside once installed. If I did the install in real-time the video would have been way too long. The hardest part was getting off my existing gates to pop on the new ones and drilling the hole to mount the button.
The problem with this is it requires physical modification to the device requiring special tools that most people don't have and most people don't have the skill to cut holes in their device and run power cables. Also this product is expensive. Why not just provide a link to where one can buy Square Restrictor Gates so they can buy them and save money since a little piece of plastic is way cheaper than some thing with a motor in it that requires a much more complicated process to install? I've seen some Restrictor Gates that can switch between 4 way and 8 way by rotating a plastic center piece.You don't provide a link to how to install the Switchable 4-to-8-way Restrictor Gate and GRS USB Button Hole Spinner.
It's not very expensive at all. A single unit is only $35, almost half the cost of a Mag-Stik-Plus that requires you to replace your joystick and doesn't have a very good throw distance. The GRS device can support up to 4 sticks and work with virtually any stick out there. I am not handy at all and never did a mod before this. Most people have a drill laying around and the bit is like $25. It's actually a pretty easy installation. Being able to switch between 4 and 8 way on the fly is way more convenient and easy than swapping out plastic gates every time you want to change your control type. This is not for everyone but for those want the best experience, it's totally worth it. Instructions for hole size and installation for the GRS products come with the products so I didn't show that here. I only provided an overview of the wiring for my particular mod in the video description.