Why Black Ops 2 Zombies was PERFECT.
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Someone tell Lex to watch Tim Hansen’s “new” wonder weapon list, he’s going to have a heart attack when he hears the crimes committed…..
It's statistical wonder weapon list that's why cold war weapons are so high
I never realized the diversity of bo2. He’s so spot on. Each map besides origins featured a singular new perk, buildable, wonder weapon, and almost all had exclusive weapons. Just look at this list of innovative things each map brought.
Tranzit- Shield, bank, fridge, buildables, jet gun, tombstone, multiple Easter eggs, the bus, perma perks, isolated playing locations (first map minus Area 51 in moon to have more than 1 unique isolated playable locations)
Die Rise- Sliq, who’s who, perk bottle drop, trample steam, AN-94&SVU (shared with buried)
Mob- Afterlife, electric cherry, blundergat, no main power switch, retriever (and soul collection for weapons… ton of stuff does this after mob) AK, Uzi, Tommy gun, death machine
Buried- New buildables, chalk, Leroy, Vultures, time bomb, paralyzer, Mk 2, Remington new model, LSAT (shared with nuketown)
Origins- Generators, changing weather, Staffs and upgrade quests, Maxis drone, Dig sites, wonder fizz, zombie blood, challenges, ksg, scorpion, scar, mg08
Each map has a ton of truly innovative stuff. And these innovations altered how to play the game. Its like each map was it’s own unique game. Not dissing bo3 because it was close to perfection but no map really changed the way you play the game. The only big innovation in bo3 is boss fights. Otherwise each bo3 map pulled from previous innovations made in bo2. Let’s look at Shadows… Shadows beast is like afterlife, the tram is like the origins tank, the power is like mob, unlocking Pap is like origins, the wonder weapon is a buildable that resembles some staff steps (digging/harvesting, killing a boss, etc.) Civil protector is like maxis drone. There’s nothing new besides widows wine in Shadows! DE follows the same fate minus of course boss fights. ZNS, GK, and especially Rev all offer nothing that changed the way zombies was played. It just perfected what was already tested and trialed in bo2. We need that game changing innovation again. And do NOT add shit to the hud.
Edit: f it, the robots in origins are worth mentioning. They absolutely changed how you played and GK used that same idea.
mg08 and Remington are the same as the lsat and python respectively
You were one of the first UA-camrs I watched when I was a wee lad. Now that I'm 19 I'm coming back to your content and it's truly amazing. No one besides Mr. T lex can capture my attention for over a decade. You and Pat are legends. Thank you Dad
....you're still a wee lad tbh
8:46 😅town is my most played map there’s no way in hell no other map on bo2 can take place of it bc of how much I’ve played it on release. I remember vividly going to round 20 an getting excited about it bc on bo1 I couldn’t get passed round 10 lmao 🤣
I never thought that SOE was too hard, it gave me similar feelings that I used to get from playing Origins. Can’t beat that.
" The bo2 zombies launch would been a failure if town didn't exist " - Lex . preach this man 🙏 He speaks truth.
It's not that Shadows is a hard map, it's just too complex for its own good. Zetsubou has the same problem. If you take a break, and you don't have rote memorization of the map, you have to look up a million walkthroughs again and again. Compared to MOTD, Origins, DE, Moon, Gorod, those maps are much more straightforward to remember everything and replay all the time. Shadows & Zetsubou doesn't hold that same healthy balance for me. Maybe for pro players like you who have dedicated your life to those two maps, but the average player can't get used to Shadows & Zetsubou difficulty compared to other big Zombies maps.
wdym you're the below average player
@@tire_iron488 I didn't mean what I said as an insult, I just know Lex is a veteran Zombies player who put a lot of time into Shadows from day 1, like many other youtubers. The average players are those who get used to the map, but don't want to remember every little mechanic and detail. The fine line between casual and experienced.
@@zondrabarth4508 then learn it, and become the better player, there's nothing holding you back man.
@@tire_iron488 It's just so much simpler to jump into Origins to get all the staves & do the easter egg proper than it is with Shadows where its a hassle to access pack a punch. Or Zetsubou taking over an hour to acquire and upgrade the KT-4.
@@zondrabarth4508 no both of those processes are very easy.
bro I was 16 when I made this video, I'm 18 now that's wild. cheers
Bro was 6 when bo2 come out lol
My mans got parakeets 😭 thought I was buggin for a sec
I’d argue BO4 was actually quite casual friendly when it comes to base mechanics. It was just the Easter eggs that were complicated.
But getting PaP on most the maps was just like pressing a few buttons.
Or you could play custom mutations and just automatically unlock PaP if you wanted to.
2 words for bo4. Super. Sprinters.
@@apless13Yeah, I stayed away from CoD since Black Ops 2 and when I played Black Ops 4 zombies I just thought, "What the hell is this shit? This isn't zombies."
@andrewhernandez2987 yeah Bo4 wasn't a zombies gamemode it was a Puzzle and Easter Egg mode that happened to have zombies in the way while you're trying to solve the puzzles and quests
@@fatnakedjimmyneutronis it weird I’ve been having a lot fun going back and playing bo4 😂
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He has bus depot as easy and town as hard? I personally think they're both simple but town has more space and PaP, so its easier than bus depot, which only has the box and very little space. Just my opinion, I'm not sure if anyone else agrees.
Also no perks :)
LOOK AT FREKLESTONS NEW SUB 20 ON SHADOWS
My friends and I used to try to do the Easter egg on all the maps and it would take us multiple tries to get it. We would get on for days in a row and run a really long game and then die and then get on the next day until we finally got it and it was an awesome feeling.
Now, I play the map one time and beat the easy handholdy Easter egg and never touch it again
Mour/Legion were the only difficult ones for me for Cold War, being someone who's never played B02 in its prime coming really late. I miss the gameplays style of it and maps having dynamic difficulty
Just the core feel of the gamemechanics was perfect. How zombues cluster in a small pack when you train em. The speed of how they hit you. form more advanced people also strafing.
And it atill has games with randoms tonthis day which I love
22:40 die rise had the jumping jack technically were a new type of nova crawler
Love you lex
I never thought I would out nerd lex but the SVU is on buried as well 21:19
bo3 gives something to do, but with maps like zetsubo I'm already bored after doing everything. I feel more inclined to high round a bo2 or bo1 map, but bo2 feels like the right middle ground for how long it should take to high round without it being bo3 easy.
B02 with double pack, the 3 hits system and health cap 👍
Lol, Lex clearly does not understand the chart at all, but still agrees somehow 😂
Simple but yet complex!
Bo1 had two fantastic maps on disc plus an extra mode that nobody even ask for but it ended up being a cool concept. That should be the standard, with very little variation. Bo2 had a rough launch for zombies but they made up for it after awhile, atleast they were suffering from being too ambitious rather then not doing enough or completely going the opposite direction the community wanted.
I hated BO3 at first because i was 10 and sucked at it😭
I agree everyone will remember town
PC zombies community I need some assistance. How can i get rid of aim acceleration? I use a ps4 controller plugged right into the PC. I want to comfortably play from my couch and not always just sit at a desk
14:17 lex was spittin spittin
Couldn't agree more on the spacing aspect of BO2
The creators of Vae Victis should create separate survival maps for each section of the whole map!
It wasn't too much and it wasn't too little, perfect balance
bo2 will forever be the GOAT
Bo3 has its strenghts but when I just wanna run around with pack and core perks I love nuketown or town or even the bigger maps I can play pretty chill if I want to
I feel like lex is the sweet spot 😮
Aren't reactions restricted to the second channel?
I don't think allot of people think of cold war in the way I do. I see cold war as the game that is there to teach you how to get better at zombies. Yes it's easy. That's what I love about cold war. I've been playing zombies since bo2. Town was by far my favorite map because I could just have senseless fun and cold war gives me the same vibes. I've always been a casual zombies player. Hated playing solo and had never completed an actual main ee. But cold war helped change that for me. It was able to give me the comfortability that the other cod games never could. Thanks to cold war nudging me in the right direction of how to do easter eggs and how to make it fun. You never see zombies UA-camrs going on bo3 (and definitely not bo4) to just have mindless fun. They're always doing Easter eggs or some stupid challenge. But with cold war and bo2 I can just hop on with some friends and have mindless fun. But cold war taught me how to do easter eggs and how to be confident in the process. Bo3 will always be my favorite zombies because of the memories I made on it. I was there for the launch of it. I remember when De came out and hopping on with my buddy who was a hardcore zombies player. Bo2 will always be the best to me. Awesome maps, amazing crews (love victis even though I only like buried) and being able to have a great time without doing the ee. But cold war I will forever love for showing me more ways to have fun in the older games. It helped me be confident enough to go for high rounds. To do the Easter eggs. To do those stupid challenges you never thought you'd do. I've always loved seeing the zombie UA-camrs never be casual about there content. I've always hated how the casual player always goes under the radar in the community. Cold war is an amazing game. But it's because it's a great way to introduce players to the mode. Especially the younger generation just like waw was for others. I don't really know how to end this rant so adios
i still find nuketown easier than mob or origina but tbh thats because i dont wanna watch guides for these two maps.
Don’t forget the razorback only on zests
2:37 I was actually not like that. Shadows was the map to get me hooked on zombies. I had played bo2 and bo1 zombies before but they never really got my hooked further than something that was fun to play with friends. Soe though had a lot of intruige going on for it. I know not everyone felt the same as me, I even know that my friends at that time would always want to restart the game whenever we did not get the box spawn some place where you could access without the beast mode. I mean we were 12 years old but even 12 year old me could figure out the pack a punch without a tutorial so I would say that if people found shadows too complex then that is just a skill issue cuz how are you gonna let 12 year old me be smarter lmao
Need more IW zombies
Yup, those were really fun
Wild sentence
Zombies in spaceland 🔛🔝
@@DoomedFranother band wagon boy
@@riioas5543 na
Honestly, I don’t think pack-a-punch quests was too hard to get on BO3/4.
It takes maybe a few games to learn it, and you don’t need a guide for any of them.
Most of the maps it’s literally as simple as clicking a few buttons.
Yeah
thats the problem when people rate it as tedious or complicated, if they cant get everything every single detail in 1 single game it's too complicated when you can learn it by yourself in max 3 games
@@gamerdeol2694 exactly. People kind of judge it too quickly, but the whole point of zombies is that you’re supposed to take some games to learn it.
@@Xpertfusion Like i get it, there's people that just wanna hop on for an hour to shoot the ray gun but like why can't we have a mix of both worlds, where both groups of people have something to look forward to. I've always looked at the mode as an adventure/survival mode, not as a generic zombie shooter just like any other game in the market.
@@gamerdeol2694 exactly. The adventure aspect has been lost during this Warzone era. Haven’t really felt it since BO4 unfortunately.
Bro glazing bo2 is crazy
Since when did bo3 not have range? To me de and gk are pretty casual, with shadows and Zet being the more complex maps
Gorod is anything but casual
@@Thegamer10113 GK you can literally fire up and play without a guide. Maybe not the entire Easter egg but the round to round gameplay is to me
Bo2 my fav zombies rn
I think the only thing bo2 has over bo3 is how hard high rounds where, hitting round 50 on bo2 is a more satisfying achievement then on any newer zombies. Not saying bo2 is the best zombies but I felt as if as long as the person knew how to get the wonder weapon of any map on bo3 they were able to hit round 50 with a basic understanding of the game and gums, where as you have bo2 you get the wonder weapon and skill has to be used in the later rounds like knowing where to train zombies, using traps to no run out of ammo etc.
I think lex is reading the chart wrong
I did all the bo4 Easter eggs this year it was a lot more fun . I was to pissed off at cod for messing the storyline up so badly.
Shadows of Evil just made playing with randoms the worst experience possible.
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Still waiting for lex to react to the presidential zomboys
If tranzit and die rise weren’t shit I’d agree with this assessment but it really feels like this game has like 3 maybe 4 maps. Also mob should have had stam, phd, and mule with an EE to get more perks
BO2 was perfect honestly but damn I kinda prefer the 3 hit system in zombies tbh
Should be 3 hit for rounds 1-10 then 2 hit beyond and old swing speed
@@Austin_Bourque_should stick with 2
That's actually such a good idea @@Austin_Bourque_
@@Thegamer10113 but 2 hit breeds the “I don’t have jug” downs
I want to be scared playing zombies
Town for sure saved zombies
dub
Probably the last cod I will play before I retire plz Blacks Ops Gulf War have good zombies.
When they changed it to the 3 hit system in bo3 it became too easy.
I’ve never understood why wonder weapon upgrades/PAP unlock didn’t have easy to digest objective graphics, I love the idea of upgrading stuff but I don’t want to have to watch a video on UA-cam each time I play
I think BO2 and BO3 are peak zombies, I don't think this is much of a hot take but just the way they felt is unmatched to me, maybe BO3 could be considered harder to get used to, but my all time favourite maps are Mob, Buried Shadows, GK and (sue me for this one) Tranzit, now hear me out, Idon'tlike Denizens and the fog could be lessened yes but the player mechanics are cool to me: Turbines for temporary power, streetlights that are teleporters, pack was.... interesting but not complicated. BO1 and 4 are also games I like (4 may be a hot take)
everyone crawling back to Jimmy Zelinski is hilarious
17:35 talking about Cold War…. They made the Easter eggs simpler because there was a lack of effort from the majority players
The problem with that is zombies was a mode that made a comunity buy the game that otherwise was would not buy cod. If they cut that group out all they do is make a large group stop buying the game and make the game mode a side show for mp/ warzone players. At that point zombies makes 0 extra money and the mode will stop being made all together.
@@TheLEE16884 I agree they need good Easter eggs to complete. I am open to them experimenting with hardcore and new people in community. I like how ww2 had a normal Easter egg and a hardcore… I didn’t do the hardcore… it was a bit much for 1 game… but with black ops series… I would be compelled to complete every Easter egg quest (except outbreak…I only kinda want to do that Easter egg)
Modern warfare 3 is going to be one I catch on sale though. It wasn’t my style from what I saw
@@elizaleski9618 exactly lol yea ive been a BIG advocate for just making a casual / clasic mode. Casual is like cold war 2.0 and clasic give you the characters no create a class and a decent easter egg . In my opinion of they did that they would win over a majority of both comunitys and make the most money.
@@TheLEE16884 interesting… they could do something like that maybe like on multiplayer maps, make it like the old zombies games
People blaming Fortnite for Live Service games makes sense, but I think the root of that problem started in COD Advanced Warfare with all three different variants of the guns.
bo2 is great but i hate windmill zombies. just seems like the game is punishing you for knifing
Bo3 has it worse
reason number 1: Transit is the best zombies map ever made
Zombies is medium in my opinion depending on the maps
I will say this (and I'm likely to stir the pot) but Treyarch's true strength was zombies no matter what platform you were on. I can't say the same for the other modes due to not having an Xbox or PC (due to mods fixing the game) at the time.
no amount of time will wipe away the DOGSHIT that was tranzit, die rise, and nuketown. with that said, buried is pretty good and origins/motd are the GOATS
I love bo2
i agree that the mimics manglers and disciples need to DISAPPEAR for good. Or at least for a while.
Na Origins is definitely easier to play than MOB but is still the most complex out of the two because of all the upgrade process. I think Mob is middle-right and Origins is top-middle
Bo3 they double swipe so fast i agree bo2 zombie mechanics was the best that lil pause before being hit
It doesn’t matter that they swing fast…. bo3 health is the highest out of any other game you can take so many hits so I see 0 point in your comment.
@@riioas5543 bitch i dont see a Point in yo comment get off my dick
@@riioas5543 you so bored replying to everyone comment nobody asked for you opinions on
@@rod6below no one asked for your pathetic opinion either lmao it goes both ways. I mean fr no one can possibly complain about that when bo3 is the easiest zombies by a long shot….
@@riioas5543 Cold War zombies is the easiest??? With tiers and upgraded perks field upgrade’s equipment
all cod zombies are not complicated to me its so simple and you learn everything basically in a couple hours. except some ees bo4 def was not friendly with that
BO2 is the best cod of all time for a reason i think its the best zombies and bo3 is just right there next to it
With modern zombies in CoD, I got so bored with it, I would rather play TranZit!!!
Modern Zombies: 🥱💤
Classic Zombies: 🤩👏
IX, Classified, Anceint Evil, and Voyage are all simple maps for base gameplay. Casuals love origins but then complain about great maps like Dead of the Night and Ancient Evil. It’s so strange to me.
Imo, I hated BO4 bc of the general systems; the hud, the ui everything sucked ass in my eyes, but that's just me. I wish I wouldve played Ancient Evil and Dead of the Night tho; they look amazing
Dead of the night great? What kind of drugs are you on and where can I get some?
@@ldabos6442 I’m not trying to be rude or anything I just genuinely recommend giving it a try. I used to hate it until I accepted it as a different take on zombies and now it’s probably my favorite game to play. I reccomend learning all the maps and testing the wonder weapons. Weapons like the tundra gun, Winters Howl, and some of the ray guns on alpha have been buffed since the game launched and do good damage past the health cap. The Easter eggs are hard to learn but fun to replay in my opinion.
I might play it if I see the game on sale@@jackpot2223
FINALLY someone says how easy BO3 really is
I fully agree that modern zombies is too easy you can clearly tell how they started in bo4 I think that’s what cause the downfall
Black ops 3 is literally perfect it had everything anyone yeah gobble gum made it easy but it had difficulty during the beginning it was so hard back then but we overcome that challenges and gorod brought back challenge back but even harder plus who can forget that Vanoss Easter egg video when everyone went down in the boss fight and Vanoss and wildcat had the biggest clutch fail of all time so chaotic so overwhelming of all time because everyone had to get better then
Cope sorta
The community during its peak was awesome but compared to bo3 and bo4 it doesnt compare at all. The victis maps were all mid - granted i would still love to play a remastered version of them but lets not pretend they are something they are not. MoTD was pretty good and origins was great for its time but these days feels like a chore to play. Also the mechanics and HUD feel super clunky compared to newer titles
IW zombies was the definition of perfect. 4 fantastic maps + beast from beyond, perk reworks that everyone agrees were necessary, interesting easter eggs, a super easter egg that actually had a decent ending, an actual new game + for completing said easter egg, plenty of unlockables and that minigame mode that lets you practice the boss fights prior to attempting the easter egg
It’s good
But you dislike most of the bo2 maps?
People need to make a distinction between CHALLENGING and lengthy/TEDIOUS. A lot of Easter Egg/pack a punch steps are tedious, not challenging. Zombies has not been "challenging" for some time.😊
Bo1 Goat
I might be the only one on this earth who likes transit.......I think it's fun but as a kid the denizens scared the shit out of me...
Y’all gotta let zombies go it’s fucking over, some things are just left in the past, it came out in 2013 they haven’t made something good since 2015 with bo3, that’s 9 years!!!! we’re fucked boys let it go. Sorry lex still love your vids
mrtlexify the zombies search engine providing us with another link to a zombies video
lex pls watch The Horror Of Black Ops 2 Zombies by Drrpy
zombies got way too easy....... its a survival mode if you start with the best weapons in the game/you can take multiple hits without going down/movement speed is too fast=makes training too easy and so many more casual friendly things....... it just ruins the vibe of the mode when it feels like you are a god just playing with the zombies from the start till you decide to end the game bc you are immortal in new zombies and getting to round 100 means nothing at this point
Bo2 was way better than bo3 too easy with all the gobble gums & 3 hit down etc
Bo2 wasn’t perfect. Bo1 was… and bo3 was better than bo2 if you take a mass pool vote. I love call of duty players. Does no one remember how bad people roasted half the maps in bo2 zombies when it was in its prime? People thought bo2 was mid but a great base line for moving zombies forward.
the mechanics are way too clunky
Unpop opinion I love nuketown zombies
I always found it as the perfect warm up map for high rounds on other maps. Because of it's small areas and the chance of not getting jug until 20
After paying more money to play anything that’s not transhit
Bruh
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I’ll never understand how “casual” players find bo3 zombies hard. But then say how mob and origins from bo2 are peak. You know damm well they didn’t figure out the staffs or the plane on there own. We all looked up guides. 😂😂 Soe is so easy, i was terrible at zombies when it came out but instead of giving up i kept playing, learned and got better. Zombies is going downhill because of these “casual” players 🤷♂️
first
BO2 is not perfect
Simple answer: It isn't
BO2 zombies isn't balanced. It's bad, very bad. The only 3 good maps are Mob and Origins and fcking Nuketown, don't even argue. Die Rise, Buried, Tranzit are smoking pile of trash. I hate how "youtubers" overcomplicate and overanalyze whole Zombies franchasie, to squeeze as much as they can out of it, while in reality it's isn't that deep.
The newer zombies is way too easy. The old zombies, people had to run back the map 4-5 times because they would die.
2:45 difficult? no, painfully tedious like all BO3 maps? definitely.
Exactly bubs
@elijahiguessNot everyone wants to do Easter eggs bro. I'm just wanting to kill zombies not have to fight Cthulhu every two seconds.
Sorta agree shadows of evil was the first map me and my friends really started to get into and we thought it was stupid even when we were 11
@elijahiguess some people just want to hop on and kill zombies why does it bother you that people have different opinions
@@andrewhernandez2987skill issue
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