I have a 4090, it's incredible, I upgraded from a 1070 so it was a big jump, my first test was the heavy Retime and Scaling -> Optical Flow -> Speed Warp it used to render at 0.5 fps now manages 10 fps which is a massive jump by 20x
I'd love to see a follow up to that with the RTX 4070. I'm curious how it performs in Resolve because it's at least much more reasonably priced than 4080/4090 and also smaller/lower power which makes for easier upgrade path (no need for a new PSU or new case or ....)
One issue with the 4070 is the memory bandwidth is lower at 192-bit versus the 256-bit on the 4080 and even 3070ti. You might get more vram but that bandwidth could be a limiting factor
Having since bought one and also tested some others, it seems the bandwidth to/from the system is much more critical for Resolve (it's not all that optimized and ends up copying lots of data in/out of system, at least in my use cases). And in that domain the 4070 has the full x16 pcie. Only the 4060 Ti and lower have a reduced lane count at x8. And you can see that on Puget bench. Going from 4080 to 4070, you loose 9% score. Going from 4070 to 4060 you loose 32%.
I’m using a Quadro RTX 5000 for 3 years now and it still does the job. But I’m tending to get the 4090 or maybe wait for the 5090 next year. Can’t wait to see some comparison when the 5000 series finally comes out. I appreciate your videos and tutorials by the way. Keep up the good work! 👍🏼
I use an RTX2070 and I very recently was given a Studio key for my birthday and wow the difference in render speed and the smoothness of Resolve while using it. It’s well worth the $500 AUD At 4K render time is now about a minute that use to take 30-40 mins.
@@PeterTeehan the free version forms use the neural engine. But yes access to GPU rendering isn’t available as such in the free version. You can still render what you want it just takes longer.
When I was looking at building a system for editing I was looking at Davinci Resolve and found they were using Nvidia's architecture. I went with the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070. I'm so glad I did. My system runs great.
Cost, power requirements, case space, slot availability, cooling ....... there's a lot to consider apart from outright speed. Time,of course, is money, so if you can meet the criteria and want/need to do more quickly go for it. As mentioned elsewhere here do have a look at the Puget Systems papers on GPU usage.
i have a 5900x and a 3080 ftw3, i want to start working in davinci with 4k footage, my setup is enough isnt it? do i need to get a 3090? will i even see a difference?
@@delanescott7872 You might see some difference, but generally editing is done with lower resolution proxies anyways, so the OCF (Original Camera Footage) being 4K wouldn't matter.
It's just a shame that they haven't got 422 decoding for H264/5 -- *that* would make a huge difference for those who don't have a recent Intel CPU with that feature built into the iGPU. (sorry Ryzen users, if you edit a lot of 10-bit H264/5 source material then Intel is the best CPU choice right now).
Casey, your video comparison was straightforward. I like the real-time AI improvements you did. I'm looking at upgrading from an RTX 3060 Visions. I do a lot with tracing and tracking in my color nodes and on the Fusion page. I enjoy your tutorials and humor.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate this video! so many reviews just work with games which is important but I am perfectly happy in games with my current 1080ti and I want to know on production workload like resolve! Thank you!
its disappointing that even with the 4080, you still dont get real time playback for much of these. I get it, people use proxies, but I want to get to a point where it can just power through without it.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor - 3.59 GHz | 16.0 GB RAM. I use Resolve for editing my gameplay for World of Warcraft: Dragonflight. Watching your videos has basically taught me how to use resolve from a basic level. Since I'm still learning how to edit these components work fine for now. Only wish is that rendering wouldn't take so long. A video once ready for delivery averages about 35 minutes.
This is a great review, showing real-time results, I hope to be able to update my GPU one day, I'm still running a RX480 and it works but slow, also need to upgrade CPU -I7-6700k, I think my specs just barely make Resolve, lol.
Does the amount of VRAM in the 3070, 4080 and 4090 have any impact in performance between the cards? I had a 1080 with 8GB, and Davinci quickly started bitching about too little memory for some tasks. I now have a 3070, but am still looking to upgrade to something with more VRAM. I'm secretly hoping for the release of a 3070 Ti 16GB or a 4060 with 16GB.
Can the video card 4080 be used to color correct/grade footage? Can we use a blackmagic intensity 4k hdmi declink card at the same time and use the 4080 editing? I sthat common 2 have a card for your display and another for ediitng?
4080's start at $1200. That's more than half the Davinci users have in their old machines. besides one needs another $295+ tax for studio to get any benefit from their GPU. But still Casey Great to know what's available for the well healed & Pros among us. Love your work Bro.
Just got my hands on an RTX 3090 with 24GB memory GDDR6X and coming from a GTX 1080, which was decent, in DR Studio version, I gotta say, this makes a night and day difference. Very happy with the 3090, going to stick with it for a while.
Same here, do you think it is worth getting a 4070 to because of less power consumption and slightly better performance? Or is it better to stick with the 24gb vram
@@Norain1992 I think tjat the 34GB ram on the 3090 is much more important when running Davinci Resolve because of the way rhe program uses GPU ram to operate. The more the better. That's my take on this subject that is why I got my hands on the 3090 instead of the 4070 with less ram
@@chrisbeemedia4038 thanks for the helpful reply. :) I think the same. I was upgrading from a 8GB VRAM GTX 1080 to a 10GB VRAM 3080 and it is still not enough for 4K editing with speed warp, magic mask and so on. I should have gone directly for the 12GB VRAM instead... I think the 24GB VRAM on the RTX 3090 will be future proof. :) We know Blackmagic is known for great updates and surprises 😋
Hmmmm, i am using an rtx 3080 now and things go prety fast with the smoothnes of operations. Of course i never used fusion or those crazy effects, so i don't resly know the whole context. Thanks for showing up the differences between h264 and h265. I searched online about that before and they were only saying that there is no difference, when it actualy is a big difference. Thank you sir, i will be watching more davinci resolve content from you, to learn even more.
Last year I bought the 4070ti super, I picked this GPU because/ Pc build as it was the best price to performance ratio. I was hoping to get into streaming but found out it was not for me. The very basic editing that I do is done in 1920x1080 and the streaming is always downscaled from 4k to that format as my internet max upload is only 16Mbits and I don't use anything over HD/1k as the video editors all want a subscription to edit 2k,4k or higher. What I can tell you is that scrubbing video, editing and exporting is blazing fast compared to the past systems that I built. The 4070ti super and higher have 2 AV1 encoders on the GPU, so for streaming it will do one live real time stream @120fps or 2 real time streams @60fps. Pretty incredible when AV1 encoders just 20 years were over 20 grand and now 2 of them ship on the mid to high end graphics cards. BTW when I was running the numbers between the 4070ti super, 4080 super and the 4090, the 4080 super was only 16% faster for another 500 bucks, the 4090 was only 50% faster for another 1200 bucks (in Canadian) over the 4070ti super, so to me it was not worth it being so close to the launch of the 5090 just 12 months away. Same reason I went with the 14700kf as the 14900kf was only 1% faster but was 300 bucks more and the 14900KS was only 2-3% faster for over 400 bucks more, over the 14700kf. Cool video and being a sponsored editor must be awesome. 20 years ago, I was given the opportunity to be sponsored, I was approached by a gentleman, and he asked me if I wanted to fly a Prototype machine. At that time, I flew Radio controlled Extreme 3D Helicopters. My hobby job was to build the machine, find anything wrong with the manufacturing of the kit and try to break and or find any weakness in the design without hitting the ground. The Heli had over a 2 grand sponsored protype battery pack, sponsored 1000-dollar prototype electric motor that was about 4"x1.5" that made over 8hp @60,000RPM and a protype DC 60volt 3 phase 200amp electronic speed controller that was also sponsored/ worth over a grand as well.
Love the 4090!!! Rendering FX in (4) 4K clips at once, playback is amazingly 24fps. The Win10 task mgr only "3D" shows activity (80-100%). Only 6.2 of 24 GB is in use. Video encode/decode are not in use. Is that right?
Do not go AMD route, as Resolve is optimized for Nvidia architecture. You will see when the benchrmarks become available. So sad, as Nvidia is not such good people, and are blatantly ripping us of with crazy height prices.
@@ErikWerlin I too am interested in the new cards from AMD. They are sure to be far superior to my 3060ti, but I will have to wait and see. Traditionally, Nvidia has always ruled the roost regarding video editing, but this time around I think they will at last be able to at least match Nvidia's offerings as AMD have recently directed more and more resources to optimising their drivers.
Dear Casey, when i try to export .h265 with alpha channel it tells me "no appropiate codec" on my mac m1. It used to work few months ago. I am selling spokesperson videos with transparency. Now i have to export to bigger files. Any idea...? Thankyou for your passion.
What Monitor are you using and what effect do you think Monitors have on the Performance on the different codecs. Now for a stupid question (Yes there stupid questions) how do I fit that 4080/90 in my Laptop? Gre job Casey.
I am using a intel core i7 8700k and a gtx 1060 for heavy use of blender and davinci resolve (also fusion page). And yeah... I reach the limit of my PC every day. But I am just a student and I don't have that much money to buy a new PC or a new GPU. But I am definitely into looking for a new PC in the future.
Hi Casey, awesome video! Thank you for the comparisons. I'm still using 2 x Asus 1080ti's together and when rendering or any sort of processing, I see the 2 gpu's being utilized at 100%. Editing R5C's 8K Raw footage but sometimes have to cache to run smoothly. Was previously using H.265 for exporting but lately it is not allowing me to do so. I was wondering if 2 x 4090's will make it breeze through even more? Or possibly 2 x 3090's (currently 2nd hand market looks good). Thanks!
Hi Casey, I m curious to know if an RTX 3060 which i have performs better, if i buy another 3060 and put them together, so they together should have a better perfprmance and mor RAM logically and should be better than a 4080? of course the heating is a problem and they need more power. Greetz Zla...
I'm still rocking sli 780ti's,still work up to 4k but over that they struggle, and forget even looking at noise reduction. PC will be getting rebuilt by the end of the year, it'll get a 13th gen Intel CPU and probibly a 4090
1st jan 2024 here- i got the studio version. i need to upgrade my gtx 1060 :-D i did a quick search- it tell me that 4070 ti is better than 4080 for resolve. i am tempted. is the 4060 ti much worst if you are a video activist with no money? thank you for any answers
Nobody is saying that the new 4000 series of Nvidia cards aren't powerful. The problem is the huge price hike from last generation. This card costs $1200. Which is 2.5x more than the 3070. Is the price difference really worth it for most people?
I recently built a new system around a 3080 Ti paired with an AMD Ryzen 9 and 64 GB of RAM. Gonna be trying it out with some simple BRAW at 4K, but looking forward to seeing how it compares to my older i7 9700K paired with a 2060 Super.
Hi Casey, love your videos , big fan ❤️!!! I do have a question, not related to this video but related to Davinci Resolve. Can I add music and text on a 360 video and render like a 360 video on Davinci? I've tried many times the result it's like a 180 video with black back . I have free version of Davinci. Thank you!!
I use AV1 for delivering clients footage which they'll ultimately put onto UA-cam, Vimeo, or Instagram Reels. Its a codec that's amazing on storage and uploading/downloading
What gpu will edit 4k footage smoothly for me ? Here’s my set up I’m guessing a 4080 super ? Intel Core i7-14700K - Core i7 14th Gen 20-Core (8P+12E) LGA 1700 G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200 MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI LGA 1700 Intel Z790 SATA 6Gb/s DDR4 ATX Motherboard (55) 1tb Samsung ssd 1 tb 980 pro ssd
In my Dell XPS I have Gen12 i9, 16gb and NVidia 3060 with 8gb. Resolve 18 tells me I need 32gb Ram to use fusion, so I've stuck with resolve 17..... But maybe I should jump?
Do you really need fusion? It's good and almost essential for professional use, but for people like me the whole DaVinci/Premier Pro system is far far too complicated and time consuming. Personally I use PowerDirector and I find it's great and does everything that I need and does it fast as well.
@@limitlesswave it all depends on the task. I make videos for ecologists, we are all volunteers but the resources we need must be accurate. Fusion enables me to track insects across footage and label them accordingly. I don't do anything beyond the free version, but, as a scientist I can't walk past an opportunity to learn a skill.
What about laptops? AMD or Intel CPU along with RTX Graphics card, which CPU is better? I know right now Intel Gen 13 & 14 are having stability problems so maybe AMD? I'm considering this one... Lenovo Legion Pro 7 Ultimate Gaming Laptop, 16" WQXGA 240Hz, AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX, GeForce RTX 4090 (16GB GDDR6), 64GB DDR5 RAM, 4TB SSD, Wi-Fi 6, Windows 11 Home. I'm not interested in the gaming aspect, only with how it might work with Davinci Resolve Studio. You can get basically the same but with an Intel CPU, just not sure that's a good idea right now. Thoughts? Thanks, mfk
Thanks, this is all good solid stuff. I am currently using a GTX1660 card and do a lot of Face Refinement in Resolve. The analysis takes a while - if I remember to switch off all color page effects before analysing, it runs at about two-thirds of real-time speed (with BRAW 4k footage). CPU usage is typically running at 30% (i9 11900K), GPU at 90% or more. I'm curious how much faster this would be with a 4080 in place - my guess is quite a lot. Has anyone done much FR work with a 4080?
Looks like an upgrade would do you much good. Used RTX 3060 12Gb are not too expensive right now. If you sell your 1660, it would be a great cheap upgrade for you.
No 3rd party card, I use an M1 MacMini I was actually considering getting an external card for my previous mac but since that one died and I had to get a new one I just don't think I need it anymore
What do you think about 8gb invidia GeForce rtx 2070super for video editing and working in da Vinci? I want to buy a pc for editing with this specs: Nvidia GeForce rtx 2070 super I9, 8 cor Ram 32 Storage 3T What do you think?
I thought considering upgrading my 3060 Ti to a 4080 when it would come out, but the fact that NVIDIA moved the price from $700 to $1200 from one generation to the other means that will not happen. I hope the competition gets better and pricing will somehow improve.
I also hope the best for AMD. But unfortunately AMD sucks in Blender & Resolve. As much as I would like that AMD is better than Nvidia..... it will not be the case this year. Mabe in Gaming performance, but definitely not in creative work.
I don't really game, but I heard that upcoming AMD cards will be at NVIDIA level in terms of rasterization, but not in ray tracing. As for the performance in productivity applications, I suppose there's also the issue that software companies, such as Blackmagic, use NVIDIA as standard and optimize the software accordingly. The same would apply to Intel CPUs or Wacom tablets. But, you are right, of course, AMD is not yet an alternative for productivity workflows. I can only hope it's possible to revert the normalization of such price increases from one generation to the other. It seems the 4080s are not selling as much as the previous generations, so let's see how the market evolves.
@@lcanau I am also really looking forward to see what AMD has to offer. I am in the situation right now, that I need to upgrade in the next 1-2 years because I am limiting my creativity and my PC almost every day.
I'm just looking for a graphics card period. lol I've never needed a graphics card until I got Resolve back in Februrary and of course I had to get into Resolve during the graphics card fiasco where it was literally impossible to get anything even close to MSRP. I've actually given up on trying to use Resolve anymore with my Intel integrated graphics because it's just too painful. Now that graphics cards are kind of lowering back to MSRP, I'll probably just go with a 3060TI. While the 4080 looks amazing and doesn't seem to have the problems of the 4090 (like the power cable melting) I don't think I can justify $1200 on a graphics card right now.
What is the cheapest 4K, Windows 11 card you've known of? My Dell 3910 runs DaVinci Resolve 18, so even a cheap card would be an improvement. I'm on a fixed income, and video editing is just a hobby. Thanks
The stupid thing about the RTX 40-series is that the encode and decode still do not support 4:2:2 acceleration. Which means that if you play back 422 10-bit HEVC or AVC footage from Sony or Canon cameras, it will play a lot slower than 4:2:0 or 4:4:4. So if you want to preserve all of the color resolution, converting to optimised 4:4:4 HEVC might boost play back significantly compared to using the original 4:2:2 files, while still saving you a lot of space. Either that or you need an Intel iGPU to play back 422-files smoothly. Though, the iGPU doesn’t support AV1 footage. Intel Arc GPUs does support all of these codec variants, but their general compute performance might not be worth it as a replacement for NVIDIA. Though, it should in theory be possible to run an Intel Arc GPU as a companion-card for media acceleration, if Intel is able to fix their drivers.
You should have used "PugetBench for DaVinci Resolve". This makes it easier to compare the results with each other. I still have a GTX980 **Try not to cry**
I had no end of problems with my RTX 3070 and hated my time with it, not least the dreaded GPU Memory Full. I could kiss goodbye to the thought of anything bigger than 1080. However my RTX 3090 cut through everything like butter with its 24Gb of vRAM. May I please ask how your RTX 4090 compares with your RTX 3090 please?
An RTX2060 12GB, not considering a 6GB, is about all I can justify for now, coming from a GTX750 Ti. It's a long time between short duration video projects for me anyway.
@@charlieross-BRM The 2060 12gb is a good choice as well. Just like the 3060ti, there's nothing cheaper that will perform better. Both are the best option at their price.
HUGE CAVEAT: I have 4080 but I'm NOT ABLE TO EXPORT AV1 using Davinci FREE edition; I believe that feature only works on the PAID version of the software!!
I would have rather seen the tracking test on a 3080 vs 4080 instead of a 3070 vs 4080. 80's cards generally offer more benefits in specialty areas than 70's cards so I think this was a bit of an unfair comparison.
Nice video, but this is sort of comparing incomparable. This is kinda comparing 3060 with 3080 There will be more-less similar difference in speed. 4080 should be compared with 3080 to be able to see the real jump in performances between generations.
I'm stuck with a 2060 here after a recent upgrade, because that's all I can afford. You don't know how lucky you are to get them so cheap over in the US and other places, while here in Australia it's ~$2500. 🙄
please tell me your joking? no one in the world should upgrade from a 3090. your gpu does everything the 40series do at half the price...save your money
I'm living with a GTX980 Ti I bought second hand during the scalp-apocalypse. I'm surprised how well it works given it's 4 generations old. Editing mostly 1080. But keen to replace it when money becomes available.
Loving the 4090 in Davinci Resolve myself. Crunches through encoding and super scaling.
I have a 4090, it's incredible, I upgraded from a 1070 so it was a big jump, my first test was the heavy Retime and Scaling -> Optical Flow -> Speed Warp it used to render at 0.5 fps now manages 10 fps which is a massive jump by 20x
Thanks for this Casey. It was hard to find info on the 40 series' performance wrt Resolve. I appreciate seeing some actual testing.
I haven't got the money or space for that giant thing 😂 Getting a PC with 3060, it'll just have to do.
I'd love to see a follow up to that with the RTX 4070. I'm curious how it performs in Resolve because it's at least much more reasonably priced than 4080/4090 and also smaller/lower power which makes for easier upgrade path (no need for a new PSU or new case or ....)
One issue with the 4070 is the memory bandwidth is lower at 192-bit versus the 256-bit on the 4080 and even 3070ti. You might get more vram but that bandwidth could be a limiting factor
It isn't limiting. Puget systems show the 4070 doing extremely well for it's $550 price
Having since bought one and also tested some others, it seems the bandwidth to/from the system is much more critical for Resolve (it's not all that optimized and ends up copying lots of data in/out of system, at least in my use cases).
And in that domain the 4070 has the full x16 pcie. Only the 4060 Ti and lower have a reduced lane count at x8.
And you can see that on Puget bench. Going from 4080 to 4070, you loose 9% score. Going from 4070 to 4060 you loose 32%.
I’m using a Quadro RTX 5000 for 3 years now and it still does the job. But I’m tending to get the 4090 or maybe wait for the 5090 next year. Can’t wait to see some comparison when the 5000 series finally comes out.
I appreciate your videos and tutorials by the way. Keep up the good work! 👍🏼
I use an RTX2070 and I very recently was given a Studio key for my birthday and wow the difference in render speed and the smoothness of Resolve while using it. It’s well worth the $500 AUD
At 4K render time is now about a minute that use to take 30-40 mins.
Rendering speeds are gated behind the studio license?
@@PeterTeehan the free version forms use the neural engine. But yes access to GPU rendering isn’t available as such in the free version. You can still render what you want it just takes longer.
When I was looking at building a system for editing I was looking at Davinci Resolve and found they were using Nvidia's architecture. I went with the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070. I'm so glad I did. My system runs great.
Cost, power requirements, case space, slot availability, cooling ....... there's a lot to consider apart from outright speed. Time,of course, is money, so if you can meet the criteria and want/need to do more quickly go for it. As mentioned elsewhere here do have a look at the Puget Systems papers on GPU usage.
Thanks for this! First time I saw a Resolve review on GPUs that actually test it on real-world use.
Glad to see some real world performance examples from you, Casey!
Rocking an RTX 3090 and Ryzen 9 5900X myself - a solid combo as a colorist.
i have a 5900x and a 3080 ftw3, i want to start working in davinci with 4k footage, my setup is enough isnt it? do i need to get a 3090? will i even see a difference?
@@delanescott7872 You might see some difference, but generally editing is done with lower resolution proxies anyways, so the OCF (Original Camera Footage) being 4K wouldn't matter.
@@KaurH so still use proxies is what im getting from you?
@@delanescott7872 For editing, yep. Just can't risk playback lagging.
It's just a shame that they haven't got 422 decoding for H264/5 -- *that* would make a huge difference for those who don't have a recent Intel CPU with that feature built into the iGPU. (sorry Ryzen users, if you edit a lot of 10-bit H264/5 source material then Intel is the best CPU choice right now).
Are you going to do full review on the Apple M4 mini and how it compares to your video editing rig
Casey, your video comparison was straightforward. I like the real-time AI improvements you did. I'm looking at upgrading from an RTX 3060 Visions. I do a lot with tracing and tracking in my color nodes and on the Fusion page. I enjoy your tutorials and humor.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate this video! so many reviews just work with games which is important but I am perfectly happy in games with my current 1080ti and I want to know on production workload like resolve! Thank you!
Congrats on the hookup with Nvidia. Hope you get to keep em
I'd love to see Numbers for the upcoming AMD cards. Hopefully, you'll somehow get a hand on those too.
its disappointing that even with the 4080, you still dont get real time playback for much of these. I get it, people use proxies, but I want to get to a point where it can just power through without it.
Exactly
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor - 3.59 GHz | 16.0 GB RAM. I use Resolve for editing my gameplay for World of Warcraft: Dragonflight. Watching your videos has basically taught me how to use resolve from a basic level. Since I'm still learning how to edit these components work fine for now. Only wish is that rendering wouldn't take so long. A video once ready for delivery averages about 35 minutes.
Excellent video as always Casey. I am rocking a 3080ti paired with an AMD Ryzen 5950x and 64gb ddr4 3600 ram. Everything works pretty smoothly.
This is a great review, showing real-time results, I hope to be able to update my GPU one day, I'm still running a RX480 and it works but slow, also need to upgrade CPU -I7-6700k, I think my specs just barely make Resolve, lol.
Good to see this kind of speed for the money! Thx for the review Casey
Does the amount of VRAM in the 3070, 4080 and 4090 have any impact in performance between the cards?
I had a 1080 with 8GB, and Davinci quickly started bitching about too little memory for some tasks. I now have a 3070, but am still looking to upgrade to something with more VRAM. I'm secretly hoping for the release of a 3070 Ti 16GB or a 4060 with 16GB.
Switched from 3070 to 4080 last week. render times are cut into half. and the big thing about 4080 is 16 GB VRAM. no more gpu full errors!
One year later any issues? My Radeon RX 7900xtx makes it impossible to do any work on the color page.
thanks which one you using AMD or Intel and which version
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
@@CaseyFaris thanks 👍👍
Can the video card 4080 be used to color correct/grade footage? Can we use a blackmagic intensity 4k hdmi declink card at the same time and use the 4080 editing? I sthat common 2 have a card for your display and another for ediitng?
Yup you can use both. Not sure how common it is. I just have one card. :)
I have a 3060i and it seems to work great, but I also don’t do much tracking in my vids. Crazy how fast the 4080/90 is
Do you have any idea of the specific improvements / new-features in the 4000-series that would make the Magic Mask tracking so much faster ?
Intuitive and good video, crisp like we want
4080's start at $1200. That's more than half the Davinci users have in their old machines. besides one needs another $295+ tax for studio to get any benefit from their GPU. But still Casey Great to know what's available for the well healed & Pros among us. Love your work Bro.
Only Blackmagic offers u free version yet u still found a way to downplay their offerings
What processor are you using, and how much RAM do you have?
How well does it work on M1 Studio?
Just got my hands on an RTX 3090 with 24GB memory GDDR6X and coming from a GTX 1080, which was decent, in DR Studio version, I gotta say, this makes a night and day difference. Very happy with the 3090, going to stick with it for a while.
Same here, do you think it is worth getting a 4070 to because of less power consumption and slightly better performance? Or is it better to stick with the 24gb vram
@@Norain1992 I think tjat the 34GB ram on the 3090 is much more important when running Davinci Resolve because of the way rhe program uses GPU ram to operate. The more the better. That's my take on this subject that is why I got my hands on the 3090 instead of the 4070 with less ram
@@chrisbeemedia4038 thanks for the helpful reply. :)
I think the same. I was upgrading from a 8GB VRAM GTX 1080 to a 10GB VRAM 3080 and it is still not enough for 4K editing with speed warp, magic mask and so on. I should have gone directly for the 12GB VRAM instead... I think the 24GB VRAM on the RTX 3090 will be future proof. :)
We know Blackmagic is known for great updates and surprises 😋
Hmmmm, i am using an rtx 3080 now and things go prety fast with the smoothnes of operations. Of course i never used fusion or those crazy effects, so i don't resly know the whole context.
Thanks for showing up the differences between h264 and h265. I searched online about that before and they were only saying that there is no difference, when it actualy is a big difference.
Thank you sir, i will be watching more davinci resolve content from you, to learn even more.
Great info 💯 btw by 6k raw you mean 6k Braw from bmpcc 6k ?
Last year I bought the 4070ti super, I picked this GPU because/ Pc build as it was the best price to performance ratio. I was hoping to get into streaming but found out it was not for me. The very basic editing that I do is done in 1920x1080 and the streaming is always downscaled from 4k to that format as my internet max upload is only 16Mbits and I don't use anything over HD/1k as the video editors all want a subscription to edit 2k,4k or higher. What I can tell you is that scrubbing video, editing and exporting is blazing fast compared to the past systems that I built. The 4070ti super and higher have 2 AV1 encoders on the GPU, so for streaming it will do one live real time stream @120fps or 2 real time streams @60fps. Pretty incredible when AV1 encoders just 20 years were over 20 grand and now 2 of them ship on the mid to high end graphics cards. BTW when I was running the numbers between the 4070ti super, 4080 super and the 4090, the 4080 super was only 16% faster for another 500 bucks, the 4090 was only 50% faster for another 1200 bucks (in Canadian) over the 4070ti super, so to me it was not worth it being so close to the launch of the 5090 just 12 months away. Same reason I went with the 14700kf as the 14900kf was only 1% faster but was 300 bucks more and the 14900KS was only 2-3% faster for over 400 bucks more, over the 14700kf. Cool video and being a sponsored editor must be awesome. 20 years ago, I was given the opportunity to be sponsored, I was approached by a gentleman, and he asked me if I wanted to fly a Prototype machine. At that time, I flew Radio controlled Extreme 3D Helicopters. My hobby job was to build the machine, find anything wrong with the manufacturing of the kit and try to break and or find any weakness in the design without hitting the ground. The Heli had over a 2 grand sponsored protype battery pack, sponsored 1000-dollar prototype electric motor that was about 4"x1.5" that made over 8hp @60,000RPM and a protype DC 60volt 3 phase 200amp electronic speed controller that was also sponsored/ worth over a grand as well.
Love the 4090!!! Rendering FX in (4) 4K clips at once, playback is amazingly 24fps. The Win10 task mgr only "3D" shows activity (80-100%). Only 6.2 of 24 GB is in use. Video encode/decode are not in use. Is that right?
How did you get into editing Casey? What was the first Computer you used?
Do you think the AMD RX7900XTX will work well in resolve or is Nvidia the better choice? Im trying to decide between the 7900xtx and a 3080/3080ti.
Do not go AMD route, as Resolve is optimized for Nvidia architecture. You will see when the benchrmarks become available. So sad, as Nvidia is not such good people, and are blatantly ripping us of with crazy height prices.
@@dmalovic Thanks for the info. I think I might go with a 3080ti or 3090 if I can find a good eal then.
@@ErikWerlin I too am interested in the new cards from AMD. They are sure to be far superior to my 3060ti, but I will have to wait and see. Traditionally, Nvidia has always ruled the roost regarding video editing, but this time around I think they will at last be able to at least match Nvidia's offerings as AMD have recently directed more and more resources to optimising their drivers.
Dear Casey, when i try to export .h265 with alpha channel it tells me "no appropiate codec" on my mac m1. It used to work few months ago. I am selling spokesperson videos with transparency. Now i have to export to bigger files. Any idea...? Thankyou for your passion.
What Monitor are you using and what effect do you think Monitors have on the Performance on the different codecs. Now for a stupid question (Yes there stupid questions) how do I fit that 4080/90 in my Laptop? Gre job Casey.
I am using a intel core i7 8700k and a gtx 1060 for heavy use of blender and davinci resolve (also fusion page). And yeah... I reach the limit of my PC every day. But I am just a student and I don't have that much money to buy a new PC or a new GPU. But I am definitely into looking for a new PC in the future.
Can't afford the upgrade to 4090 at this time.
In your opinion, how would two 2080 ti ftw3 gpus, stack up against one 4090 in Resolve 17 Studio?
Great real world usecase demonstration :) What would you say is the minimum and middle of the road spec advice for cpu for davinci use?
what motherboard do you need
Hi Casey, awesome video! Thank you for the comparisons. I'm still using 2 x Asus 1080ti's together and when rendering or any sort of processing, I see the 2 gpu's being utilized at 100%. Editing R5C's 8K Raw footage but sometimes have to cache to run smoothly. Was previously using H.265 for exporting but lately it is not allowing me to do so. I was wondering if 2 x 4090's will make it breeze through even more? Or possibly 2 x 3090's (currently 2nd hand market looks good). Thanks!
lol just make sure you have a fire extinguisher nearby! lol don’t want it to burn down when it starts melting
If you go with the 4090, what CPU do you recommend to go with it? Ryzen 9 or I9 13900KS or Threadripper ?
are you using the studio or gaming drivers?
Did you try the RX 7900 XTX? A comparison would be useful.
Hi Casey, I m curious to know if an RTX 3060 which i have performs better, if i buy another 3060 and put them together, so they together should have a better perfprmance and mor RAM logically and should be better than a 4080? of course the heating is a problem and they need more power.
Greetz Zla...
Would be interesting to see the difference between the 3090 and the new generation cards.
I'm still rocking sli 780ti's,still work up to 4k but over that they struggle, and forget even looking at noise reduction. PC will be getting rebuilt by the end of the year, it'll get a 13th gen Intel CPU and probibly a 4090
Great Video as always. What CPU and how much ram you used during these tests?
1st jan 2024 here- i got the studio version. i need to upgrade my gtx 1060 :-D i did a quick search- it tell me that 4070 ti is better than 4080 for resolve. i am tempted. is the 4060 ti much worst if you are a video activist with no money? thank you for any answers
Nobody is saying that the new 4000 series of Nvidia cards aren't powerful. The problem is the huge price hike from last generation. This card costs $1200. Which is 2.5x more than the 3070. Is the price difference really worth it for most people?
I recently built a new system around a 3080 Ti paired with an AMD Ryzen 9 and 64 GB of RAM. Gonna be trying it out with some simple BRAW at 4K, but looking forward to seeing how it compares to my older i7 9700K paired with a 2060 Super.
how do you like it? Im looking at a similar build
Hi Casey, love your videos , big fan ❤️!!!
I do have a question, not related to this video but related to Davinci Resolve. Can I add music and text on a 360 video and render like a 360 video on Davinci? I've tried many times the result it's like a 180 video with black back . I have free version of Davinci.
Thank you!!
Question: What is AV1 good for at the moment? Does anyone accept it for delivery?
I use AV1 for delivering clients footage which they'll ultimately put onto UA-cam, Vimeo, or Instagram Reels. Its a codec that's amazing on storage and uploading/downloading
which power supply u used
Mine is the 1060 6 gb and I’m looking to upgrade so thanks for this!
What gpu will edit 4k footage smoothly for me ? Here’s my set up I’m guessing a 4080 super ?
Intel Core i7-14700K - Core i7 14th Gen 20-Core (8P+12E) LGA 1700
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200
MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI LGA 1700 Intel Z790 SATA 6Gb/s DDR4 ATX Motherboard
(55)
1tb Samsung ssd
1 tb 980 pro ssd
your pc is very powerful,i m using rtx4070 ,11700kf,32GB RAM ,H510 MB
& you can edit 4K with zero issue
In my Dell XPS I have Gen12 i9, 16gb and NVidia 3060 with 8gb. Resolve 18 tells me I need 32gb Ram to use fusion, so I've stuck with resolve 17..... But maybe I should jump?
Do you really need fusion? It's good and almost essential for professional use, but for people like me the whole DaVinci/Premier Pro system is far far too complicated and time consuming. Personally I use PowerDirector and I find it's great and does everything that I need and does it fast as well.
@@limitlesswave it all depends on the task. I make videos for ecologists, we are all volunteers but the resources we need must be accurate. Fusion enables me to track insects across footage and label them accordingly. I don't do anything beyond the free version, but, as a scientist I can't walk past an opportunity to learn a skill.
What about laptops? AMD or Intel CPU along with RTX Graphics card, which CPU is better? I know right now Intel Gen 13 & 14 are having stability problems so maybe AMD? I'm considering this one... Lenovo Legion Pro 7 Ultimate Gaming Laptop, 16" WQXGA 240Hz, AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX, GeForce RTX 4090 (16GB GDDR6), 64GB DDR5 RAM, 4TB SSD, Wi-Fi 6, Windows 11 Home. I'm not interested in the gaming aspect, only with how it might work with Davinci Resolve Studio.
You can get basically the same but with an Intel CPU, just not sure that's a good idea right now. Thoughts?
Thanks,
mfk
RTX 3060 12gb, Ryzen 9 7950X and 64gb of ram in Davinci Resolve Studio. Works just fine 👍
Good to hear that. What kinda of footage do you work on?
@@M4TR1X video from my phone, my Canon 90D and 700D.
Thanks, this is all good solid stuff. I am currently using a GTX1660 card and do a lot of Face Refinement in Resolve. The analysis takes a while - if I remember to switch off all color page effects before analysing, it runs at about two-thirds of real-time speed (with BRAW 4k footage). CPU usage is typically running at 30% (i9 11900K), GPU at 90% or more. I'm curious how much faster this would be with a 4080 in place - my guess is quite a lot. Has anyone done much FR work with a 4080?
Looks like an upgrade would do you much good. Used RTX 3060 12Gb are not too expensive right now. If you sell your 1660, it would be a great cheap upgrade for you.
No 3rd party card, I use an M1 MacMini
I was actually considering getting an external card for my previous mac but since that one died and I had to get a new one I just don't think I need it anymore
The 4080 is a BEAST for DaVinci Resolve!! Makes workflow so much better. SMOOTHER FPS than the 30 SERIES 😁
What do you think about 8gb invidia GeForce rtx 2070super for video editing and working in da Vinci?
I want to buy a pc for editing with this specs:
Nvidia GeForce rtx 2070 super
I9, 8 cor
Ram 32
Storage 3T
What do you think?
Should be a pretty good box I'd think.
I thought considering upgrading my 3060 Ti to a 4080 when it would come out, but the fact that NVIDIA moved the price from $700 to $1200 from one generation to the other means that will not happen. I hope the competition gets better and pricing will somehow improve.
I also hope the best for AMD. But unfortunately AMD sucks in Blender & Resolve. As much as I would like that AMD is better than Nvidia..... it will not be the case this year. Mabe in Gaming performance, but definitely not in creative work.
I don't really game, but I heard that upcoming AMD cards will be at NVIDIA level in terms of rasterization, but not in ray tracing. As for the performance in productivity applications, I suppose there's also the issue that software companies, such as Blackmagic, use NVIDIA as standard and optimize the software accordingly. The same would apply to Intel CPUs or Wacom tablets. But, you are right, of course, AMD is not yet an alternative for productivity workflows. I can only hope it's possible to revert the normalization of such price increases from one generation to the other. It seems the 4080s are not selling as much as the previous generations, so let's see how the market evolves.
@@lcanau I am also really looking forward to see what AMD has to offer. I am in the situation right now, that I need to upgrade in the next 1-2 years because I am limiting my creativity and my PC almost every day.
I'm just looking for a graphics card period. lol I've never needed a graphics card until I got Resolve back in Februrary and of course I had to get into Resolve during the graphics card fiasco where it was literally impossible to get anything even close to MSRP. I've actually given up on trying to use Resolve anymore with my Intel integrated graphics because it's just too painful. Now that graphics cards are kind of lowering back to MSRP, I'll probably just go with a 3060TI. While the 4080 looks amazing and doesn't seem to have the problems of the 4090 (like the power cable melting) I don't think I can justify $1200 on a graphics card right now.
3080ti laptop gpu lel. enough for now. might add an egpu in the future.
btw, has youtube support uploads for av1 yet? id like to try it out.
Performance is one thing, but the price for these are horrendous.
I use an RTX 2070 ti at home and two separate workstations at the office. One has an RTX 4090 and the other an RTX A6000.
I'd love to see the latest AMD GPU in this comparison
Yeah, I think we are all hoping to just throw away our NVidia cards and don't look back.
Previous generations were faster in resolve than Nvidia. So the new ones should be too
What is the cheapest 4K, Windows 11 card you've known of? My Dell 3910 runs DaVinci Resolve 18, so even a cheap card would be an improvement. I'm on a fixed income, and video editing is just a hobby.
Thanks
Wow i need a 4080 right now
The stupid thing about the RTX 40-series is that the encode and decode still do not support 4:2:2 acceleration. Which means that if you play back 422 10-bit HEVC or AVC footage from Sony or Canon cameras, it will play a lot slower than 4:2:0 or 4:4:4. So if you want to preserve all of the color resolution, converting to optimised 4:4:4 HEVC might boost play back significantly compared to using the original 4:2:2 files, while still saving you a lot of space. Either that or you need an Intel iGPU to play back 422-files smoothly. Though, the iGPU doesn’t support AV1 footage. Intel Arc GPUs does support all of these codec variants, but their general compute performance might not be worth it as a replacement for NVIDIA. Though, it should in theory be possible to run an Intel Arc GPU as a companion-card for media acceleration, if Intel is able to fix their drivers.
Make me want to get a PC. I use the mac studio pro ultra. This is definitely faster and all I use is the magic mask in davinci.
You should have used "PugetBench for DaVinci Resolve". This makes it easier to compare the results with each other.
I still have a GTX980 **Try not to cry**
GTX750 Ti 2GB here - so cry me a river :) LOL.
@@charlieross-BRM Me GT 1030 🤣
Anyone have an opinion on the Mac Mini?
I had no end of problems with my RTX 3070 and hated my time with it, not least the dreaded GPU Memory Full. I could kiss goodbye to the thought of anything bigger than 1080.
However my RTX 3090 cut through everything like butter with its 24Gb of vRAM. May I please ask how your RTX 4090 compares with your RTX 3090 please?
I had the same issue with my 1080, and now with my 3070. It's a pain in the arse.
@@PipBoykin Replace your 3070 with a 3090 and you will not have a single issue GPU wise. And the 4090 looks even better.
@@frankinblackpool I would love to, but a 3090 is way out of my price bracket.
Hmmm... I just upgraded from RXT2060 Super to RTX3060ti. Hope that is an improvement.
The 3060ti is probably the best budget card for content creators right now. I think that's a solid upgrade.
An RTX2060 12GB, not considering a 6GB, is about all I can justify for now, coming from a GTX750 Ti. It's a long time between short duration video projects for me anyway.
@@charlieross-BRM
The 2060 12gb is a good choice as well. Just like the 3060ti, there's nothing cheaper that will perform better. Both are the best option at their price.
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 5.5GHZ
RTX 4070 12GB / AMD Radeon Graphics (Motherboard GPU)
32GB 4800MHZ DDR5 Ram
2,5 TB M.2 SSD
Windwos 11 Pro
Any tips to make my systeem faster and better for DRS 18.5
HUGE CAVEAT: I have 4080 but I'm NOT ABLE TO EXPORT AV1 using Davinci FREE edition; I believe that feature only works on the PAID version of the software!!
I would have rather seen the tracking test on a 3080 vs 4080 instead of a 3070 vs 4080. 80's cards generally offer more benefits in specialty areas than 70's cards so I think this was a bit of an unfair comparison.
but what about VRAM how much VRAM it has
Read some crazy stuff about the 4090 frying at the connection point. Anybody else hear/read about that?
1250€ 4080 vs €1650 4090. Which one would you pick? Worth it €400 more?
Nice video, but this is sort of comparing incomparable. This is kinda comparing 3060 with 3080 There will be more-less similar difference in speed. 4080 should be compared with 3080 to be able to see the real jump in performances between generations.
That's fair. It's what I got tho.
@@CaseyFaris I'm not criticising, I just want to tell that comparison is not quite relevant to show real difference between generations
2000 dollars. What would be a good video editing? Ones I see are either over that or have "things" missing I think should be on the computer.
Which one is better 4080 or 4090 for Davinci Resolve?
4090 by just a bit
@@CaseyFarisOkay. Thanks. 👍🏼
4090 with the wrx80 motheboard and a threadripper 16 core processor
I'm stuck with a 2060 here after a recent upgrade, because that's all I can afford.
You don't know how lucky you are to get them so cheap over in the US and other places, while here in Australia it's ~$2500. 🙄
Not too bad. 6gb vram though
Should I upgrade from my 3090?
please tell me your joking? no one in the world should upgrade from a 3090. your gpu does everything the 40series do at half the price...save your money
@@delanescott7872 lol kk
DaVinci noob here. I run Ryzen 5800x and RTX 2070 Super. Everything is smooth... but then again, I'm a noob, not pushing anything.
Be sure you have a fire extinguisher handy before you plug in that 4090.
I'm living with a GTX980 Ti I bought second hand during the scalp-apocalypse. I'm surprised how well it works given it's 4 generations old. Editing mostly 1080. But keen to replace it when money becomes available.
You realize there's the Quadro line right?
Q's far more expensive
Good for 3D design and long duration rendering (I use it at office)
For gaming and video editing, can't beat the value of G