@@bimapriambada1098Nah, if that's true then you should've pronounced GG (good game) as GiGi, not JiJi, but they all say JiJi anyway even though it's not pronounced Jood Jame XD Edit : My first language is not English tho, so I dunno, English is just weird.
I activate the Field Spell card San Francisco, and use its effect to Special Summon "Gentrification" face up in defense position; ending my turn. Your move, Internet.
Whenever this debate comes up it always end the same: A - Creator said jif. B - Creator is wrong. A - Wow, asshole. B - It's graphics not jraphics. A - Okay then you'd better say jfeg not jpeg or say lahser and not lazer. B - ...
Chill, Shadow. The kicker is that all of those examples are pronounced the same way you should by sounding it out as a word, matching the closest existing word if one is available. At BEST you could make the argument that it would be "Juh-peg". So when taking the FULL context of all letters and arrangements, you're left with a few words that are 2/3's matches. So on one hand you have: gib, gid, gig, and git. While on the other you have.... gin? That's pretty much it. Everything else is mostly just antiquated/niche spellings of OTHER words.
Here we go again. Also I am a heretic who advocates using both version because they are legitimate for different reasons. One is due to the word's creator. While it is an acronym, it is also a word and he dictated how it should be said. While the other is due to the popular slang of sort, the way that people have chosen to say that word. For example, if say a large part of a population said Gin with a hard G and it sounded like Gheen, while you can argue to them that the proper way to say Gin us like how you would say Djinn, the fact that it is how a significant enough portion of their population says that word gives it credence due to that fact alone, even uf it is incorrect, since enough people who say it that way expect it to be said in this particular way. And to people saying that the majority if people say GIF with the hard G and not the soft G, that really depends on your locale. Some place truly do typically use the soft g like when you say Gin. If anything, I have more of a bone with English using the French word for Vegetables, which is Legumes, to describe beans as Legumes, which to the French is Legumineuse. But then again, English has always been a Frankenstein of multiple languages and borrowed words.
Even BeeJoe, whose thing is replacing g’s with j’s in the spelling of words knows how to properly pronounce gif. Smh at Kaela making things up to explain why she pronounces it wrong.
Google : "The official pronunciation from the creator of the format, Steve Wilhite, is "JIF" with a soft "G." However, many people use the hard "G" pronunciation, especially in technical and popular contexts. In short, both pronunciations are widely accepted, but "JIF" is the original, while "GIF" with a hard "G" is often used informally."
@@TheTrikai The creator doesn't have a say, everyone was pronouncing it with a hard "G" for decades. The computer graphics field would never pronounce "JIF", because "JIF" is already an image format (it's the file format used by JPEG images) that people always pronounced as "JIF". Steve was just angry that PNG killed GIF, thanks to how patent-encumbered the GIF format was.
@@dkosmariAs someone who grew up with the early Internet, the lossless compression and alpha transparency of PNG *still* feel like wizard magic to me.
Let me ask my gipsy giraffe if it wants some ginger in its gin. English pronunciation's general lack of rules means both pronunciations are correct. And before you go and tell me "the g doesn't stand for jraphics", don't forget to look up scuba and laser.
@@TheRealJohnux That’s because it doesn’t have a homophonic (Homoalphabetic? Homosyllabic?) alternative which stands for something else waiting in line. Not to mention J and G both stand for the difference in sound while P needs an ‘H’ for the ‘F’ sound. It’s ok.
@ Homophony would be having a singular sound represented by two different spellings. The same goes for the other two except one specifies the sound as a syllable and the other specifies that the spellings are using a single letter: they all mean the same thing but refer to categorizing the representation differently. The point of putting them all there is to demonstrate that however you slice it, the P does not have the same problem as G and J. It all checks out and makes sense lol. Your point doesn’t hold up, that’s why you cant actually refute mine.
I know that JIF is the right one but I refuse to say it like that(just doesnt feels right), and as an Indonesian there is no something like Soft G.. So yea GIF is the way for me
I want my name to be pronounced properly; I think everyone wants their name to be pronounced properly or the names of their children or creations/inventions. Taking the time to learn and pronounce somebody's name or creation is a form of respect. The inventor of GIF wants it to be pronounced as "jif", so that's how I pronounce it. He wants it that way, so to show my gratitude and respect to his creation, that is how I will pronounce it until he changes his mind. I'm with Kaela; her reason is a simple as it gets. I myself don't really correct other people, but I do get "corrected" a lot and it annoys me to death. So I just say "animated image" or, to annoy them back, I say "gjif" 😅
No, people originally called it Gif, this was for years, then the creator came out and said to pronounce if Jif. But it doesn't make sense. Don't call those people stupid when they were first AND right.
@Despotic_Waffle No, actually, lol. The creator pronounced it Jif, so it's Jif. Idiots can't say it's not pronounced that way. they were wrong, still are wrong, and they look stupid for it.
@ which is a lie. Creator said it’s Jif, so it’s Jif, end of story. If a bunch of illiterates and stupid people try and say otherwise, all they are doing is showing themselves for the fools they are.
You're saying it's pronounced as "Jif?" Are you also saying that Gawr Gura is actually "Jawr Jura?" Perhaps we should ask for the Abyssjard twins for their input, or maybe consult Cecilia "Immerjreen."
Here's my take on why it's actually JIF: 1. In english, G followed by I is pronounced like J (by the way, this is a heritage from french) 2. GIF being an acronym for Graphic Interchange Format doesn't mean it should be pronounced G. The correct way to pronounce an acronym is by pronouncing the letters separately (so it would be "jay-ie-eff"). But as most people us GIF as a "normal word", then they should pronounce it JIF. 3. Foreign pronounciations do not count, it's an english word/acronym. TLDR: pronounce it either G.I.F or JIF, but not GIF.
I used to pronounce it as a gif but after I notice that people get triggered when they heard someone pronounce it as jif, I go out of my way to pronounce it jif everytime
I'm pretty sure the creator of the file format said it was pronounced Jif. For any other programmers out there, I also occasionally say jithub, sometimes as ji-thub instead of jit-hub.
Kaela and Beejoe had a civil war
The war ended shockingly fast once they came to the conclusion that the first letter stands for Jraphics 😂
Just when world war pineapple on pizza ended. We start world war jif vs gif
Facts are it is pronounced jif but screw that, gif sounds better so I'm calling it gif also pineapple on pizza is justice.
The real answer is Greg
Don't forget about the coffee vs tea war
the war will never end
@@AdamFJH
Counterpoint, gif sounds stupid and weak. Its also one letter away from gilf and youre one syllable from exposing yourself.
Kaela and her princess brat
the "jestlighting" tho
Previously in Afa Singapore Hololive meet 2024 this question came up. I was laughing at the debate hahaha! Kronii & Kaela were debating along with us!
... and I was on the mic lol
@ryansuryautomo5782 Hey nice to see you!
@@ryansuryautomo5782 "the creator is wrong" was such a savage response lol
@@limzhixing2658based response. I was part of the audience too.
@@limzhixing2658 Well the creator of Uno said no stacking but we stack'em cards like its nothing lol
" It's pronounced GIF. You're a beta male, Sonic "
It's GIF
So it's Jenondorf, but it's GIF, huh Biboo?
And dont forget about Gapanese
“It’s the G from giraffe!”
“It’s the G from gift!”
Me: “… the G is silent”
??? If
"The D is silent, hillbilly" -Django
We've had debates over coffee and tea, which being superior. If pineapple belongs on pizza. Now Jif vs Gif, the debate as old as time
Its a good thing Kronii's right there
ITS GIF, I am indonesian I don't pronounce G as J so it's GIF 🤣
As a Malaysian, I can verify his claim.
And G stands for Graphic not Jraphic so that's the correct pronunciation.
NO ITS JIF
@@bimapriambada1098Nah, if that's true then you should've pronounced GG (good game) as GiGi, not JiJi, but they all say JiJi anyway even though it's not pronounced Jood Jame XD
Edit : My first language is not English tho, so I dunno, English is just weird.
@@Jthe5thgaming yes i heard most Indonesian read GG with GeGe, just like how we pronounce the letter G, not Ji & Jiji
1:19 ok biboo.Janondorf. 😂😂
Gigi would feel awkward in this debate 😂
Imo, both is good and people should just use what they are comfortable, both side will understand anyway ❤
Me who's pronouncing it as G.I.F. : *Profusely Sweating*
I'm here with you, my dude
1:26 And jood jame... Jawr Jura... Jeorge.... Jiji Murin... Jiraffe...
beebs the jaslighter is the last person I would have expected this from
Wow, Bijou, you amazing. And Kaela, you disappoint me.
Love me some Jazz Lighting.
Meanwhile Gigi : hehe
All i know is that I don't give someone a birthday jift
I propose that anyone who insists it's jif be forced to use jift instead of gift and make themselves look stupid for the rest of their lives.
I seriously choked/spitting on my tea just now...
@@a_kuma Then I guess when you drink gin or look at a giraffe you'll also have to change your pronunciation. That's only fair.
@@a_kuma Doesn't matter in the end, English doesn't follow its own rules. Words one letter away can be pronounced completely different
Aside from GIF debate, it's kinda funny that some of them didn't know what Jankenpon is even though they worked for Japanese Companies.
If you call Jif peanut butter, Gif, then we're gonna have issues. XD.
mother and daughter with family cat and exhausted aunt
I activate the Field Spell card San Francisco, and use its effect to Special Summon "Gentrification" face up in defense position; ending my turn. Your move, Internet.
Get the jet, Beejoe.
The old battle!
It's GIF.
The thumbnail is a banger
At least she didn't said "Flogging"
Internet debating the gif since stone age
It's gonna take 1000 Years to settle the debate.
It's Jeff now
Biboo right on this one
GIF ela!
Queue the sonic meme.
It's JIF.
Wow there's Kaela, Biboo, Raora and Sam Dander
Remember when someone say jerudo. The rock said it last year lol
M'name is Jeff.
Wow my oshi and I have so much in common
MY NAME JIF
Whenever this debate comes up it always end the same:
A - Creator said jif.
B - Creator is wrong.
A - Wow, asshole.
B - It's graphics not jraphics.
A - Okay then you'd better say jfeg not jpeg or say lahser and not lazer.
B - ...
if it was spoken "jfeg" then the acronym would be written jpheg surely? and you spelt laser the American way, which is wrong
That silence at the end indicates they've realised what kind of cretin they're talking to.
Chill, Shadow. The kicker is that all of those examples are pronounced the same way you should by sounding it out as a word, matching the closest existing word if one is available. At BEST you could make the argument that it would be "Juh-peg". So when taking the FULL context of all letters and arrangements, you're left with a few words that are 2/3's matches. So on one hand you have: gib, gid, gig, and git. While on the other you have.... gin? That's pretty much it. Everything else is mostly just antiquated/niche spellings of OTHER words.
@@Godoflegos Gif, Gin, Gib(I'm taking it as Gib as in gibbing as in turning to giblets, an FPS term) it seems 50/50 to me idk
@certafan you can’t use gif to justify the pronunciation of gif.
Beegoe
Jif...same as Jiraffe🐎
Jeep
Wow, Kaela harem
Jeep 👌
subtile-chan dead
This debate wouldn't have happened if english wasn't such an unlawfully spelled language.
AFASG Panel debate again 😂🎉🎉🎉
Tbh It's GIF
This is are a good team actualy tam gandr and raora 😂😂
its like buuk and duur
It's pronounced phuquemijjers!
Jaihu?
Said girl who say horse as jorse.
😅
Sorry Kae, I'm with Beejoe this one
It pronounce "Greg"
The creator is wrong. Gif like gif(t)
Here we go again. Also I am a heretic who advocates using both version because they are legitimate for different reasons.
One is due to the word's creator. While it is an acronym, it is also a word and he dictated how it should be said. While the other is due to the popular slang of sort, the way that people have chosen to say that word.
For example, if say a large part of a population said Gin with a hard G and it sounded like Gheen, while you can argue to them that the proper way to say Gin us like how you would say Djinn, the fact that it is how a significant enough portion of their population says that word gives it credence due to that fact alone, even uf it is incorrect, since enough people who say it that way expect it to be said in this particular way.
And to people saying that the majority if people say GIF with the hard G and not the soft G, that really depends on your locale. Some place truly do typically use the soft g like when you say Gin.
If anything, I have more of a bone with English using the French word for Vegetables, which is Legumes, to describe beans as Legumes, which to the French is Legumineuse. But then again, English has always been a Frankenstein of multiple languages and borrowed words.
It's actually yiff 😎
🤝
You know at least one person is going to google it because of this comment. You monster.
@@DokiDokiAviaryClub They're welcome 🤣
Oh It's PewDiePie all over again
You're pronouncing it wrong too, Raora. There are Hoshiyomi outside my r--
It’s pronounced “Greg”.
Even BeeJoe, whose thing is replacing g’s with j’s in the spelling of words knows how to properly pronounce gif. Smh at Kaela making things up to explain why she pronounces it wrong.
Google :
"The official pronunciation from the creator of the format, Steve Wilhite, is "JIF" with a soft "G." However, many people use the hard "G" pronunciation, especially in technical and popular contexts.
In short, both pronunciations are widely accepted, but "JIF" is the original, while "GIF" with a hard "G" is often used informally."
@@TheTrikai The creator doesn't have a say, everyone was pronouncing it with a hard "G" for decades. The computer graphics field would never pronounce "JIF", because "JIF" is already an image format (it's the file format used by JPEG images) that people always pronounced as "JIF". Steve was just angry that PNG killed GIF, thanks to how patent-encumbered the GIF format was.
@@TheTrikai Stop trying to make giffy happen. It's NOT going to happen.
@@Dogan_TM Personally, I don't even care. I just copied and pasted the Google search result.
@@dkosmariAs someone who grew up with the early Internet, the lossless compression and alpha transparency of PNG *still* feel like wizard magic to me.
I can forgive a lot of things, but this is over the line, Kaela.
No matter what anyone says, it's gif. It'll ALWAYS be gif even if the creator intended it to be jif.
Let me ask my gipsy giraffe if it wants some ginger in its gin. English pronunciation's general lack of rules means both pronunciations are correct. And before you go and tell me "the g doesn't stand for jraphics", don't forget to look up scuba and laser.
@@LaChouetteOrtho Giraffics
Kouseki "jannondorf" Bijou doesn't really have a good record on pronounciations. Sorry Biboo
Jif is a peanut butter brand. That's it.
Never forget: there is actually a JPEG Interchange Format. Gif is pronounced Gif.
The P in JPEG stands for photographic, but I bet you don't say J( ph)eg.
@@TheRealJohnux That’s because it doesn’t have a homophonic (Homoalphabetic? Homosyllabic?) alternative which stands for something else waiting in line.
Not to mention J and G both stand for the difference in sound while P needs an ‘H’ for the ‘F’ sound. It’s ok.
@@pixelpastiche You're just making up rules which you don't even know the proper words for lol. Sad.
@ Homophony would be having a singular sound represented by two different spellings. The same goes for the other two except one specifies the sound as a syllable and the other specifies that the spellings are using a single letter: they all mean the same thing but refer to categorizing the representation differently. The point of putting them all there is to demonstrate that however you slice it, the P does not have the same problem as G and J.
It all checks out and makes sense lol. Your point doesn’t hold up, that’s why you cant actually refute mine.
I know that JIF is the right one but I refuse to say it like that(just doesnt feels right), and as an Indonesian there is no something like Soft G..
So yea GIF is the way for me
I know factually it's jif because the creator of the format said so. BUT I don't like it and continue calling it gif.
So "God" is basically "Jod" right Kaela? 😂😂😂
BASED KAELA
I want my name to be pronounced properly; I think everyone wants their name to be pronounced properly or the names of their children or creations/inventions. Taking the time to learn and pronounce somebody's name or creation is a form of respect. The inventor of GIF wants it to be pronounced as "jif", so that's how I pronounce it. He wants it that way, so to show my gratitude and respect to his creation, that is how I will pronounce it until he changes his mind. I'm with Kaela; her reason is a simple as it gets. I myself don't really correct other people, but I do get "corrected" a lot and it annoys me to death. So I just say "animated image" or, to annoy them back, I say "gjif" 😅
I'm more surprised there's not a newer or at least different format being used.
Kaela incredibly based
Jif is the correct way to say it. A bunch of dumb people decided they didn’t like the proper version, and tried to change it.
No, people originally called it Gif, this was for years, then the creator came out and said to pronounce if Jif. But it doesn't make sense. Don't call those people stupid when they were first AND right.
@Despotic_Waffle No, actually, lol. The creator pronounced it Jif, so it's Jif. Idiots can't say it's not pronounced that way.
they were wrong, still are wrong, and they look stupid for it.
@ which is a lie. Creator said it’s Jif, so it’s Jif, end of story. If a bunch of illiterates and stupid people try and say otherwise, all they are doing is showing themselves for the fools they are.
You're saying it's pronounced as "Jif?"
Are you also saying that Gawr Gura is actually "Jawr Jura?" Perhaps we should ask for the Abyssjard twins for their input, or maybe consult Cecilia "Immerjreen."
GeeGee.
Kaela I love you, I think you're superb and very cash money, but its pronounced GIF. 😊
Its Pronounced "GIF", Like The Peanut Butter, The Creator said so.
“The creator of it said it’s this” Has no judge on how English works…
I don’t pronounce gift as jift…
To be fair english works in weird ways
Well English is a weird language, especially at pronunciations
Giraffe?
Giraffe, Georgia
Here's my take on why it's actually JIF:
1. In english, G followed by I is pronounced like J (by the way, this is a heritage from french)
2. GIF being an acronym for Graphic Interchange Format doesn't mean it should be pronounced G. The correct way to pronounce an acronym is by pronouncing the letters separately (so it would be "jay-ie-eff"). But as most people us GIF as a "normal word", then they should pronounce it JIF.
3. Foreign pronounciations do not count, it's an english word/acronym.
TLDR: pronounce it either G.I.F or JIF, but not GIF.
I used to pronounce it as a gif but after I notice that people get triggered when they heard someone pronounce it as jif, I go out of my way to pronounce it jif everytime
you sound fun
That triggered me. You better change back to gif now.
I'm pretty sure the creator of the file format said it was pronounced Jif.
For any other programmers out there, I also occasionally say jithub, sometimes as ji-thub instead of jit-hub.