Rank 300 vs Rank 1 (96% Winrate) TopSpin 2K25 Player vs Player Gameplay | World Tour

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 7 січ 2025

КОМЕНТАРІ • 95

  • @MoreAyReef
    @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому +6

    What do you think of the handcam?
    Useful or useless? Helpful or distracting? Too big or too small or just right? Should I move it to the top right or keep it where it is? Any thoughts would be great!
    Next vid I have the cam in the top-right, we'll see how that goes.
    Thanks for watching!

    • @francescobuonaiuto9062
      @francescobuonaiuto9062 6 місяців тому +1

      Top right is better but i prefer no cam honestly

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому +1

      @@francescobuonaiuto9062 Thanks for your input!

    • @JoaoB23
      @JoaoB23 6 місяців тому

      No cam to be honest... its some fast that i personally don't take nothing out of it. But nice try

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому +2

      @@JoaoB23 Thanks, makes sense! I’ve made my next vid already which does have the hand cam in the top right. I’m thinking it won’t necessarily be a bad thing to keep since nothing happens in the top anyways and worst case scenario, it has a neutral effect for the viewer. But we shall see!

    • @DrunkGaz
      @DrunkGaz 5 місяців тому

      Great tennis played there, pity he always serves out wide it’s a bit of a loser tactic.

  • @ItsWeskerTime
    @ItsWeskerTime Місяць тому

    Thank you for posting Tennis content. This is my first video of your channel and I enjoyed it. Loved the commentary (i dont expect it every video). I recently got the game and I have a lot of learning to do but wanted to see a real match. Ill get online soon. I come from fighting games so the 1 v 1 interest me. Have a great day!

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much, I appreciate it! I try to do commentary as much as I can. Have a great day also!

  • @Jaydee71172
    @Jaydee71172 6 місяців тому +22

    Wide serving is such a loser tactic. It’s been the problem with any online tennis games. The moment someone walks to the corner I lose all respect for them.

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому +3

      The devs of the game are first to blame for the state of the game for sure, but players who all play the same way deserve some of the blame as well. I agree that those who use control shots will be tough to beat regardless, but a large majority of players power shot most of the time. Hence why a lot of the top players have 95+ power.
      I may make a video about the state of the game because even writing about it just irks me because how has it been over 2 months and the same main issues are still prevalent. It is crazy to think haha.

    • @justdroppingby7383
      @justdroppingby7383 6 місяців тому +1

      So a real life tennis tactic in a tennis game upsets you

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому +1

      @@justdroppingby7383 it’s not a real life tactic though since they’re working on patching it.
      No one moves to the corner in a singles match irl because you just get crushed with a down the line serve.
      Also, a less than 100 mph wide serving slice first serve is definitely not a real life tactic. Flat serving out wide is, but no one aims for the singles line on the side irl. At most it’s the corner of the service box. In the game, they aim for the side which is unrealistic to do consistently.

    • @arenni13
      @arenni13 6 місяців тому

      I use control shots quite a lot, most of them perfect and even worked through coaches to get shot counter. You simply can not do anything against these power meta characters regardless. Serena and Sharapova in the 2k tour for example just blast winners off a perfect control shot even with a too late or too early shot whilst on the run with zero stamina. Its ridiculous.😂
      Unlike topspin 4, there is no reward for skilled players using tactics, control shots, defensive and excellent shot choice. Game is flawed and unbalanced in terms of power and precision stats combined. Topspin 4 had none of these problems and the serve was perfect. Why change it too this ridiculous set up.
      My fix, cap the power level and precision when power is max'd at perhaps 85, if so precision can only be 70 +/- 5. If you contiuously use power shots you make more mistakes partuicuarly if no investment in reflexes.
      Precision should also be capped at 80 forehand and backhand if you make them equal, +5 perhaps if you want one wing stronger than the other eg. 85 forehand 75 backhand is max combination. If you chose to have this then your max power is capped accordingly.
      My reasoning is Agassi, his precision is ridiculous (in the game) as players exploit them by hitting ridiculous angles that do not exist in tennis and if they were hit the would be blasted away by even mediocre players. But in this game, even with heavy power, you cant hit past those shots with power. You need to get into a side to side short angle / drop shot battle which is exhausting and ridiculously boring and unrealistic.
      The stats across many levels are too high, particularly when the reach 85+ but particularly 90s.
      Its only opinion and sure its complicated in terms of development and numbers etc but they got the game this far, just fix the skills and attribute numbers.
      Then theres the added fact of players boosting and cheating.
      I get its a game but its so damn annoying! 😂😂

    • @Jaydee71172
      @Jaydee71172 6 місяців тому +1

      @@arenni13 I also think power shots should cost stamina and stamina drop should cause a more dramatic effect on shot quality.

  • @guckermann
    @guckermann 2 місяці тому +1

    Hey, nice game man! Do you play mainly controlled or powershots? And more topspin or flat ones?

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you! I usually do flat control shots. I only really do topspin shots if I am trying to recover back to the middle of the court

  • @franbonmati3572
    @franbonmati3572 Місяць тому

    ok cthx! But you are talking about exhibition matches, right? Isn’t there organized tournament that people enter?

  • @TennisWannabe
    @TennisWannabe 3 місяці тому

    Hey man, such a cool video. Thanks so much. I wanted to know with the advanced serve, I see you prep the direction very quickly and VERY easily....once you put it in either corner, is there a way to lock it in that position or are you constantly holding the correct pressure to keep it in that position? If any of this makes sense haha. I play on a PS5. the direction button for the serve is SO sensitive.

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you! Good question. No, you can't lock it into place. I'm just holding it at that position.
      Yeah, it took me a while to get used to it, but after enough practice, it should get better!

    • @TennisWannabe
      @TennisWannabe 3 місяці тому

      @@MoreAyReef I dont know if its because its a PS5... feels impossible to control... it is so sensitive haha. I hope it gets easier... its actually so sensitive I find it is impossible to keep it in one position.

  • @hford386348
    @hford386348 5 місяців тому

    Hello,when you respect your player, the fittings still remain ,is there a way to delete the fittings?

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  5 місяців тому

      I'm not sure. Maybe you can delete the fittings first and then reset the stats?

  • @franbonmati3572
    @franbonmati3572 Місяць тому

    How’s the online mode these days? Enough users and quick pairings? Thanks

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  Місяць тому

      It’s pretty good! Yeah, I usually don’t have to wait too long, maybe like 15-20 seconds max. But it also depends on when you’re looking for a game. I usually can’t find a game first try at nighttime in the USA. Anytime before that it’s quick

    • @franbonmati3572
      @franbonmati3572 Місяць тому

      @@MoreAyReef ok cthx! But you are talking about exhibition matches, right? Isn’t there organized tournament that people enter?

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  Місяць тому

      @@franbonmati3572 I’m talking about world tour which is online “ranked”. People enter other tournaments but that’s from third parties

  • @senordiegofc
    @senordiegofc 6 місяців тому

    How do people hit the ball so hard, is there an input I’m missing? Even when just playing with the authentic players, I do a flat power shot (holding A) with perfect timing and it is never as hard as some people hit?

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому

      @@senordiegofc This may be a stupid question but do you hold A fully until the red circle shows up? That means full power. If it still doesn’t feel fast, it may just be that the power attribute of the player you’re using isn’t high like some of these created pros that have 95+

  • @infamouskram
    @infamouskram 2 місяці тому +1

    U getting perfect timing on pretty much every shot is beyond me

  • @tamerkutlu8200
    @tamerkutlu8200 4 місяці тому

    How does the target sign appear when serving ??

    • @matyuuu
      @matyuuu 4 місяці тому

      Serve with stick

  • @Jaydee71172
    @Jaydee71172 6 місяців тому +5

    Respect man, for trying to play fairly in a game full of people using unfair tactics. 👍

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! I try, haha. Don't get me wrong, I used to play that way just to win games easily, but I soon realized it is just not fun to play that way over and over. Also, it's not fun to watch and I want my games to be somewhat entertaining, even if I lose.

    • @Jaydee71172
      @Jaydee71172 6 місяців тому

      @@MoreAyReef Hey I understand. You gotta do what you gotta do. Wish they could come up with something within the game to combat it. Keep up the good work.

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому +1

      @@Jaydee71172 100%. Hopefully they will fix it soon!

  • @stuartrobertson5062
    @stuartrobertson5062 6 місяців тому

    This was really fun to watch, I have never played a Tennis sim game is 2k25 the only option?

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому +1

      @@stuartrobertson5062 Thank you!! This game isn’t the only option, but it’s definitely by far the best option on console. On pc, there is one called Full Ace Simulator which I think is a little better in terms of a real life tennis simulation, but graphics lack a bit and content wise is not great either. Also, you need a mod to make the game really shine. But yeah, these two are the best imo.

    • @stuartrobertson5062
      @stuartrobertson5062 6 місяців тому

      @@MoreAyReef Thanks I'll check it out.

  • @duff0120
    @duff0120 Місяць тому

    do u think tiebreak is as good as top spin?

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  Місяць тому

      @@duff0120 Good question. I think it’s better as a simulator but topspin is the more fun game

  • @LUUWILL
    @LUUWILL 6 місяців тому

    how does ur player have attributes over 70? when i switch coaches i lose my attributes over 70 please help

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому +1

      You'll need to max out your new coach and use fittings in order to get your attributes over 70 again.

    • @LUUWILL
      @LUUWILL 5 місяців тому

      @@MoreAyReef But how does the fittings get your attributes over 90 in many skill columns ??

    • @LUUWILL
      @LUUWILL 5 місяців тому

      @@MoreAyReef When i change coaches i lose my 93 power

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  5 місяців тому

      @@LUUWILL Some fittings are better than others. Just play around with them and see.
      You lose your power since your new coach isn’t upgraded. You’ll have to see what attributes the coaches actually increase and then do the tasks associated with them

  • @zFrostbiiTez
    @zFrostbiiTez 6 місяців тому

    Good first set 4:1 up in the tiebreak, maybe choked a bit but he also played well. Good match against this player, i played this player before and lost similar.

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому

      Thanks, yeah he did play well which made it tougher.

  • @FrontDoorPLZ
    @FrontDoorPLZ 6 місяців тому

    how do you use wide serve reef?

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому +1

      If you’re on Xbox, hold X and aim towards the side of the service box! If not on Xbox, then whatever the slice serve button is. This only works on the deuce court side (if you’re right handed) and ad court side (if you’re left handed)

    • @FrontDoorPLZ
      @FrontDoorPLZ 6 місяців тому

      @@MoreAyReef appreciate u man been trying to figure this out lol

  • @karunkanth2607
    @karunkanth2607 5 місяців тому

    Bro! What is the internet speed you use? I use 500mbps and I am getting so much lag. I play from India. Any suggestions? Please bro

    • @mohanr437
      @mohanr437 2 місяці тому

      Beo tamil ah bro

  • @gamingartist1376
    @gamingartist1376 4 місяці тому

    Crazy match but was entertaining good stuff this game ligit hard online to many meta try hards kills the fun.

  • @dwnxx4974
    @dwnxx4974 6 місяців тому

    You really need to walk back back more when they’re wide serving. You’ll always get it when they hit it on the other side. They’ll adapt and try to screw you over by dropping it short but in my experience you run faster running up the net than across the court so you’ll awaits hit that shot too.

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому

      Walk back more like stand further back? I'm afraid I'll be getting to the ball later when it is further off the court which is why I don't do that. Or does it give me more time to recover after I return it? I'll try it out!

  • @Lesfrereschimistes
    @Lesfrereschimistes 6 місяців тому

    This french guy is too strong ! Well beaten

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks. Yeah, he is good. Although a bit of a cheeser lol

    • @Lesfrereschimistes
      @Lesfrereschimistes 6 місяців тому

      @@MoreAyReef what do you mean by cheeser ?

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому

      @@Lesfrereschimistes Just using easy tactics to win, that aren't really tennis moves. But it's all good! A lot of what he does takes skill like those angled control shots.

    • @Lesfrereschimistes
      @Lesfrereschimistes 6 місяців тому

      @@MoreAyReef hmmm i don't think so, it's not an easy tactic to find all time the same area in his service, in addition, it could be used by favoring well-abused angles if he went to the corner.
      I agree that it doesn't look like real tennis, but you shouldn't minimize the level of your opponent, he is very strong. It’s more the quality of your service returns that you need to work on!

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому +1

      @@Lesfrereschimistes I'm not minimizing his skill because he is number 1 for a reason. But that wide serve is an easy 1-2 combo tactic. That is why everyone does it. They are working on fixing it for a reason.
      Returning those serves is easier said than done!

  • @HankHell41
    @HankHell41 5 місяців тому

    This level of play is just insane

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  5 місяців тому

      @@HankHell41 Yeah, he was crazy

  • @FrontDoorPLZ
    @FrontDoorPLZ 6 місяців тому

    i struggle with every top player because i can't do anything on their serve

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому

      Returning is definitely the toughest part of the game

  • @falzixhd6874
    @falzixhd6874 5 місяців тому +1

    To be honest a 96% winrate feels more like cheating than a matter of skills, if you want to get many subs and succeed I highly recommend to share ur dirty tricks and cheats and perhaps show a controller recording, not a camera at 14fps. Never heard an esport in my life with a player with 96% winrate without naughty tricks.

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  4 місяці тому +1

      @@falzixhd6874 Are you talking about me or the other person? He has the 96% win rate, not me

  • @Julz--93
    @Julz--93 6 місяців тому

    Also lost to this guy. He smoked me. I spoke to one of the top players and he said speed doesn’t do anything for side to side movement across the baseline, it’s only for vertical movements. I’ve dropped my speed rating and haven’t noticed a difference. Could save yourself some points

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому

      Thanks! I’ve made a new build where I have dropped speed into the 70s and increased reflexes to 88. Let’s see if that helps out.

    • @Julz--93
      @Julz--93 6 місяців тому

      @@MoreAyReef Cool. Yeah the guy was ranked 20 something and his speed was only 42! Could even drop further but see how you go.

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому

      @@Julz--93 42 is crazy!! Yeah, that makes sense though. There have been so many times where I thought I hit a winner and they somehow catch up to it even with like 50-60 speed

    • @TkrzTT
      @TkrzTT 6 місяців тому

      @@MoreAyReef Can you share that build with me plz

  • @JogaBonitoCFTV
    @JogaBonitoCFTV 5 місяців тому

    Developers have ruined this game through power shots only mattering, but the community in any competitive games are the worst. This is why i only play single player games.

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  5 місяців тому +1

      @@JogaBonitoCFTV hopefully the patch tomorrow will be good!

    • @JogaBonitoCFTV
      @JogaBonitoCFTV 5 місяців тому

      @@MoreAyReef I wouldn't hold your breath. All sports games are awful, I'll have to see how the patch is tomorrow.

  • @glens1800
    @glens1800 5 місяців тому

    Them wide serves need a nerf

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  5 місяців тому

      They just got nerfed!

  • @arenni13
    @arenni13 6 місяців тому

    I genuinely believe these top ranked players, at least some of them are bots, or boosters. Some of the shots and movement are literally impossible and too have perfect shots 100% of the time whilst running with no stamina and max power is impossible.
    Also if you pay close attention to some of the top ranked stats, they simply do not add up. For example recently the no.1 ranked player on the 2k tour settings showed break points converted 4%, held serve 24%, highest rank player defeated 3000 approx. They had almost 50 50 win loss record and were ahead by almost 1000 ranking points. These all seem highly suspicious and unlikely.
    The game is undoubtedly cheating us and people have hacked into it or purchased augmentation packs.
    Well played though, you are very good. Its unfortunate we cant just pick who we want too match up against as there is cheats in this game spoiling it.
    Most recently I have had some success against these meta players and fake out wide serve power robots by using Sampras and mixing baseline play up with serve and volley but its mindboringly dumb and frustrating the point the game is no longer fun. ❤

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! Yeah, I do think there are cheaters in the game. I’ve seen players who have very low attributes in all categories, yet hit like 130 mph serves. It’s wild.

  • @karunkanth2607
    @karunkanth2607 6 місяців тому

    Tough Luck bro. Well played. I love topspin. Started playing 2k25. Plz support me also @Laziedadgaming

    • @MoreAyReef
      @MoreAyReef  6 місяців тому

      Thanks! Yeah, it is a fun game