Harlan Ellison's Watching 54
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Harlan shows up at the Buzz set to plug I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream, and makes a shockingly prescient prediction and some that are not so much.
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Harlan Ellison: the ORIGINAL Clueless Gamer. Bless this man for never playing his own video game - and giving good reasons not to.
TheStockwell he basic a proto type forever thing
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The orginal anti sjw guys
He rant about remake and reboot in 90
And fight pc culture in the 90s
RIP Harlan Ellison.
I remember watching "Sci-fi Buzz" back in the day. Harlan was awesome on there.
Marvel went bankrupt a year after Harlan made this prediction.
so? he didn't predict that would enter bankruptcy. he predicted they (along with dc) wouldn't be around, which of course they are.
At the time there was a real chance that Marvel would have been liquidated and its characters sold off piecemeal. Two corporate raiders, Ron Perelman and Carl Icahn, drove the company into the ground fighting over it. So it was a plausible prediction.
Mike Jerrick was Harlan Ellison's very special pal.
I think if he gave some more modern games a shot, such as Silent Hill 2, he might change his mind when it comes to games "not teaching anything". Regardless of the disagreements I have with him concerning video games, Harlan Ellison is still the man.
I'm a huge Harlan fan and usually agree with him, but when talking about videogames and the internet, he comes off as an out of touch old man. It's also ironic he's not self aware enough to realize, the way he talks about videogames, is the same way his parent's generation talked about comics.
@@StudioChojin You know who else didn't like video games? Ray Bradbury. These guys were prolific writers; they wrote, they lived. When I need to create, I avoid video games. They're terrible for concentration. And I say this as someone who enjoys video games immensely. Comic books, though a shorter format, are still about reading and ideas. I'm not saying video games cannot have artistry to them, but don't kid yourself either that most of them aren't mindless forms of entertainment.
@Bluemoon In The Daylight That doesn’t surprise me, Bradbury was from the same generation as Harlan. Just because you play video games, that doesn’t preclude you from having an active life. _when I need to create I avoid videogames_ No duh. No one is saying you should actively be playing video-games as you’re writing, and out of curiosity, what have you written? I’m not challenging you, you’re the one bringing it up, where can i find your work? I find a huge source of inspiration from video games, you can see it in my UA-cam videos as well as my artwork. Which is easily found on UA-cam, google, deviant art, and my Twitter/Instagram.
Are there mindless video games? Yes. But there are also games like a Shadow of Colossus or The Last Of Us which tell compelling narratives and engage the audience in ways that aren’t possible in other mediums. Just as there are mindless comic books, but there are also books like Watchmen and Maus. You are only doing yourself a disservice if you are going to adopt an arbitrary elitist attitude to medium, that judging from your statement, you seem to know nothing about.
@@StudioChojin, I didn't say video games cannot be art, but there sure is a glut of mindless shooters and the like. I've been a fervent enthusiast of games since arcades and Atari 2600, and I'm always on the watch for growth and depth in the genre yet I find too much of it lacking. For every SotC, there's several FPSs, not that there's anything inherently wrong with that subgenre, but it does fill much of the field. I tend to find much more interest in indie games, though too much of it relies on crutches like retro/nostalgia and/or obvious meta-commentary.
Meanwhile, I've encountered so many more interesting indie comic books that manage to fully utilise visual and written narration. Subjects like rape, gender, coming-of-age and more handled in a more artful nature than the often exploitative ways in some video games.
As I get older I've found games along with television worsen my attention span and muddle my thoughts due to the drip-feed like nature of instant gratification. I don't have this issue when reading, even comic books as they still require a focus to detail that isn't always present in many games. Again, I'm not saying all games, though a good chunk of them tend to fall on a face-value level of understanding and lack depth.
As for writing, I'm currently working on a few novels, and hope to get published in the near future. I find playing little to no games helps me to concentrate and solve the many issues that occur in fiction. To use those problem solving abilities on a video game would be to spread me thin. It's the same when I draw. I need to focus and strengthen my attention span.
@@StudioChojin, one other thing I found was that it helped to avoid video games from influencing my writing. I found it caused me to focus far too much on visual descriptions and action. A lot of video games can also get very ham fisted and clunky.
If you gain something from video games, more power to you. But in my experience it tends to weaken my overall writing abilities.
Glad Harlan lived long enough to finally see the Saints win the Super Bowl!
I never saw these when they first aired (over the years, my only interests in the Sy-Fy Channel were the daily reruns of "The Outer Limits," and the NYE "Twilight Zone" Marathon), so its a treat to see all of these commentaries by one of my favorite writers.
I gather that these segments were part of some larger "magazine" series, and the affable other guy was the host?
Yes it was a SF news show called Sci-Fi Buzz back in the 90s. Back when Sci-Fi channel wasn’t crap.
he was right that marvel lending superheroes to other comic/movie companies almost bankrupted them two or maybe three times. Can't blame him for not predicting Iron Man in 2008, no one could've. props tbh smart dude
Iron Man being unknown helped them basically use him as a blank canvas. It also helped that the dark knight allowed them to make him “marvels batman”
@@plaidchuck yeah, sure.
Funny prediction about Brad Pitt considering he didnt win an acting oscar until 2020. Like a lot of the 90s matinee idols he started getting more critical appreciation when he got more picky about scripts.
Will Harlan Ellison go to his grave never having played "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream"?
zarkoff45 Prolly.
Well, him passing away answered your question
Well marvel has been absorbed by Disney, so you got that.
no he didn't. "in 5 or 6 years...dc and marvel will not be around as we know them today." even you admit that at least half his prediction is wrong (dc didn't get bought by anyone.) and i'd say that a marvel comic reader couldn't tell from reading the comics that marvel had new ownership. so marvel comics are around pretty much exactly as he knew them back then.
Dude, what in the actual fuck are you talking about. I was just saying that marvel was absorbed by Disney, nothing about Dc. Stop trying to oneup people on the internet.
Irv Pinsky
I apologize, but you are slightly misinformed. DC was bought off by Warner Bros.(now Time-Warner) in the 1970s. Now the landmark DC publishing HQ in NYC is in the process of phasing out as they're moving publishing operations to Hollywood. Ellison was slightly inaccurate, but he was absolutely right about DC phasing out into a corporate collective.
DC was owned by warner when ellison filmed this rant. and i'm only responding to what ellison said or predicted. and his prediction was demonstrably wrong.
Irv Pinsky Sir, you said in your text one month ago "(dc didn't get bought by anyone.)" I clarified the misinformation. Now you claimed that " DC was owned by warner when ellison filmed this rant." Does this mean you that you're contradicting, or does this mean you forgot to say you've acknowledged your mistake from the previous statement, but believe Ellison is still wrong about Marvel being bought out? I understand his predictions were inaccurate, but Ellison is no psychic, he was just making a worst case scenario in the state of things. They weren't meant to be accurate, just speculative.
Jerrick went on to a career doing the news at Fox/ News Corp. Mainly Fox 29 in Philly, and also on Fox & Friends (so I heard, I only see that show when they say stupid crap that late night shows play). I'm sure Harlan would have some great comments on Mike all these years later. Which makes Harlan's first ever commentary on Sci-Fi Buzz that much better. He burned Rush Limbaugh in that.
Anyone know what Harlan says at 4:52 that was apparently muted? Seems like he might have said something defamatory and it was censored to avoid any legal problems. Otherwise I can't understand what he said that warranted censoring.
Gnome Chomsky - I think he might have dropped an F bomb
he seemed to start doing a jewish accent lmfao
Then again can see harlan ellison sue fallout
You never catch the dragon.
Anybody know what characters were leased to Image?
Marvel isn't the quality publisher that they use to be. But then again neither is DC.
Marvel and DC Comics are still around in 2014!
David Fullam Yeah, no one back in the mid-1990s really could have seen that coming. Good point.
For Marvel, yes. For DC? ... nopey-dopey.
Why couldn't Kirk and McCoy take Joan Collins back to their own time?
Because it was a story with a message, not just a story to make people feel good.
They did, after they saved the whales -- oh wait, that's that other story.
Harlan don't you find it hypocritical that you know nothing about computers and want nothing to do with them. But yet you write a book about a giant computer as a cartoon mastermind without any reasonable motivative or logical reasoning.
How about he helped make an actual computer game based on that very story? :-D I love how he's aware of that too, and still hates the idea of computer games.
How is it hypocritical to write something he doesn't like as the villain in a story?
Valgaav19 Hating computer games does not disqualify you from making them.
I said it was hypocritical because he's writing the computer as a cartoony villain. When he strides to be better & intelligent then the computer users he takes jabs at. I'm saying he made the computer an unrealistic villain with human emotions which is completely ridiculous. It's the same thing with HAL 9000, a computer would NOT do that!
Oh okay- so you know how all computers equipped with an AI will and will not behave. Well, problem solved.
Boy was he wrong about marvel lol
Marvel as it was then indeed went bankrupt. Thats why so many film rights for the characters still weren’t resolved until the late 2000s and why they started with Iron Man. You can still see it in how Spidermans rights are still technically owned by Sony.
...then PIXAR went WOKE. 🙄
Lol coco and incredibles 2 that pulled in over a billion is wole? You numbnuts call anything related to disney woke
@@plaidchuckclose to enough to Ellison‘s talking, welcome back Harlan Ellison.
How are comic books superior to video games. Same time waste
Is reading literature a waste of time?