How's it gonna hold up at the race track, when he lines up next to a skyline? Poorly his mates are gonna give him shert right out the wazzoo all year. You need to tell him about the race track package, before he start blowing his ball bags and is left somewhere down the track with egg on his face..
How do you know this is a total legit shop with lots of experience? Swimsuit centerfold in the corner. :) Every shop I ever worked it had one hanging on the wall somewhere. Sometimes calendar girls.
J53113 hell ya man the piece of mind know your ej will be bullet all the time plus most 800+ are horrible to drive when not on boost I can't wait to see the finished car
The block is literally gold, you're telling me that has nothing to do with why they picked it? There are plenty of other closed deck options out there that would have been on the same reliability level at less than half the cost. This just doesn't make any sense.
@@jack073 lmfao if the block was made of gold it would be pathetically weak, it's billet aluminum and anodized in that colour as that's the colour the billet blocks come as. the blocks are safe for up to 1000hp
Shout out to IAG for my short block build...going with a 35r and shooting for 600hp on 93 pump gas with all supporting mods...just something to get me around town
Excellent video but was hoping you'd name all the turbos and discuss them individually so I can have a better understanding of the others apart from the tdo4... So I still not sure what's the name of 3rd and the 4th turbo on the table..
Great video! Looking at updating my turbocharger from a TD04L 13T, to a VF31. Reason for Vf31 is that I can get one in great condition off. Friend. Problem is, I cant find any real info on a Vf31. Is it an upgrade from a TD04l? Thanks :)
I am going with the verticooler and building my WRX for pure bottom and mids. high end power is overrated unless you are always on a track. When I built my G35 I went for top end performance and mid to high rpm was great, but nothing below 3500. which is generally the DD operation range.
Everyone saying that this setup isn't running enough power to justify a billet block..I have a friend who runs that same Garrett turbo in his STI and it made 480 on the dyno.. thats still a TON of power but yet, still comfortable to daily drive. Sure its a little tame for how far you could push this engine but it won't be slow by any means, and rotated kit can always come later if you feel like making a monster of a car.
Most are shooting for 7 - 800whp on the my15 sti, this billet block build should start there, and progress to destruction mode, where we could all learn to make better decisions on how to improve our daily commute in every ?or any destination that we choose, track, work, school what ever. You can turn it down in public and dad can turn it up at the race track, knowing he and his best mate gave it a good go yeh or nah
Hola buenas me gustaria actulizar los turbo de fabrica de mi b4 3g tiene vf27y vf26 por cual turbos se podrían actualizar siempre montando 2 turbos ojala pueda alludar un fiel seguidor de chile gracias
I have a tdo4 turbo and planning on doing a upgrade and want to know which is the best turbo to choose and why, I've already change my stock top mount intercooler to the Sti intercooler.
Hello my friend !!! quick question, you specialise in Subaru I got an 2006 Forester Cross Sports 2.0 T AT do you know possibly which turbo is in my car and if what turbo I can replace it with ????
Greco Conduris regaurdless of if its legal or not, i doubt a cop would pick it. i cant even see my turbo easily without removing the intercooler. then they all look much the same at a glance.
Ben Vos Hi Ben, whilst I agree with this particular build and Perhaps WRXs in general a cop may not pick it up. Having said that about 10 years ago a mate of mine had a shop build a GTi-R for him. You name it, it had it. Large aftermarket turbo, Jun stroker, FMIC, power FC, injectors, PPG box etc. I have no idea what it cost, but must of been close to 50k with car, parts, labour and tuning. On something like it's 2nd outing got pulled over by the cops, EPA and put off the road. Now that's a bad story as it is, but it gets worse. He pays to get it put back to standard, gets it back on the road, then pays for all the mods to be put back on. Couple weeks later pinged again. It nearly broke him. He landed just getting rid of it after that. So whilst he might be extremely unlucky. It worry me my hard earned could be just thrown away like that.
john smith haha Little John your preaching to the wrong choir. Whilst I am a car enthusiast, I have a sports car and an old muscle car, I am also a bike enthusiast. I rode sports bikes for a long time and now I have a Harley. So I have to disagree with you that they are POS. I love riding my bike. Even more than driving my cars. I'm not sure if you ride, but there is something next level about riding bikes that cars can't even come close to matching. And only riders know it.
Are you the guys that actually held information hostage pertaining to oil passage blockage and restriction i.e. factory oil screens causing issues and failure of turbos and more? Before it became common knowledge I swear I resourced this subject for 40 hours over the course of 2 years. Finally bought a brand new ihi genuine subaru turbo in box. Installed it and spun the bearing immediately. 1400 dollars. I'd that was you guys who put out a video years ago going into detail listing the symptoms but at the end of the video making a statement to the effect of we know why this happens but we're keeping that bit of information as our own trade secret. So bring your car to us or better luck next life.. hopefully that was another shop.
Hey I’m looking for a good vf turbo that has good low end torque curve while also having good top end power. I need one good for 350 hp. Any suggestions? I was thinking about a vf39 but I may need to go bigger to support 350hp??
Hi Brett question for you. I have a 06 WRX and I am waiting on a part for it that causes my plugs to foul up fast and was wondering if I can use NGK BKR7E plugs because the original ones are quite pricey and I don't want to use them ACH time they foul up
hey mrt I have a quick question I finally did he forged internals build and now that it's starting to get a little bit cold here in Texas I smell Rall gas on the driver side with the car running I check the fuel lines I do not see any fuel leaking out what could it be
What flange is run on the vf38 from the ej20x? bought a jdm ej20x to replace the blown and sold engine from a 2008wrx and i need a downpipe option any information is appreciated.
Mick David yeah I thought they went smaller 97-2000 that's why the older ones are worth more. Bigger in the bigeye to make up for weight and to go with improved heads.
If compression is good fix all your leaks first. Replace all your fluids and do your timing belt, water pump, idlers/tensioner, and spark plugs.Sounds like you need to reseal your turbo, look up some how tos for that or replace your turbo with a used wrx one (or another cheap option). Make sure and check the turbo inlet hose, they crack and fail on 2002 subarus let alone one that's 10 years older. If your fluids are new, you're getting good spark, and there aren't any leaks in your turbo system your car should be doing pretty well.
chris winter no, he didn't, but it looks like a Garrett GT30xx series, most likely a GT3076R. That's actually a great all around turbo, and it's about as big as you can go in the stock location without having to go to a rotated setup.
@@d-a-e because its a block with a hp potential of over 1000 being kept at stock power levels. Unless its a progressive procedure then getting a billet block is utterly useless. just get a semi closed deck machined in, and machine some sleeves if you need to
Inverted V12 Powerhouse I think that is the problem. Just cause it is rated for such hp levels doesn’t mean you need to take it all the way there. If I have the funds, I will do the same for maximum reliability. Semi closed decks are crap especially if you decide to have fun with the car sometimes and try to see what the thing can do...and there should be no reason not to push the thing to redline we all buy cars like these because they are super fun to drive but at the expense of reliability
@@d-a-e semi closed are not crap... They prevent blown HGs. Im not saying he should psuh the block to 1500hp but that leaving it at 305 is an utter waste of money.
300kW? isn't a billet block absurd massive overkill for that? What can a billet block do for a 300kW setup that a standard built Subaru block can't? I watched the first few vids, so I know the general differences. Is a Subaru block really questionable at only 300kW? I don't mean this to come across as me hating, just trying to follow the logic here.
these cars are just money pits, if you modify one thing the next becomes a weak point, i got my engine rebuilt with forged internals for my forester XT capable of 300kwatw, but i was more about reliability than all out power + then my gearbox is now the weak point thats 6-7 gs to upgrade, then a larger turbo, injectors, flex fuel, headers, up pipe ect it doesnt end, no thanks i got better places to spend my money atm like re-investing so i can buy real cars like a Mercedes or a BMW ect, at the end of the day its still a subaru and i think maturity is telling me i need a euro car soon!!
Mate i watch to the end and listened a closed deck would have got the same results that billet crack case would be for massiveeeeee power, its not economical to me, it would have cost some $$$$
$15000 wooooow fuckn holy shitballs, that would be the cost of a really good full forged closed deck ported and polished heads, without the ancillaries and plenty of power to have fun!!! plus MRT is expensive as fuck, at the end of the day you really need to realise its a car and you will never get your money back, there's smarter ways of creating a strong powerfull engine with the right components and using the money in other areas as you mentioned previously!
Why buy a $10,000 block if you're not going to push HP numbers at even half what it's rated? Complete waste of money, imo, love the knowledge and info in the video though.
Drink every time he says turbo.
Man, this guy knows his shit.
Respect.
Don't forget the TD05-16G on the 96 , you told me to get one from memory Brett I run it on my Liberty RS , still in the shed now 🐌👌🏼
this is the only guy i can watch he explains so well and hes aussie
thanks:)
please share our videos
MRT Performance how would you rate the vf37 twinscroll turbo and what sort of boost could it take without putting big strain on it?
The best Subaru/turbo channel on youtube.
That's gonna be an awesome build for a car that can be comfortably driven on the road everyday and be extremely reliable
That's exactly the goal for the project.
How's it gonna hold up at the race track, when he lines up next to a skyline? Poorly his mates are gonna give him shert right out the wazzoo all year. You need to tell him about the race track package, before he start blowing his ball bags and is left somewhere down the track with egg on his face..
do you talk about build prices at all? super interested.
How do you know this is a total legit shop with lots of experience? Swimsuit centerfold in the corner. :)
Every shop I ever worked it had one hanging on the wall somewhere. Sometimes calendar girls.
Wow! I wish I knew as much as u did about subarus and cars in general. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Brett you can flip the throttle body so the loom is on the other side and it makes heaps more room for the GTX turbos
I totally agree with this customer. screw everyone's opinion
J53113 hell ya man the piece of mind know your ej will be bullet all the time plus most 800+ are horrible to drive when not on boost I can't wait to see the finished car
The block is literally gold, you're telling me that has nothing to do with why they picked it? There are plenty of other closed deck options out there that would have been on the same reliability level at less than half the cost. This just doesn't make any sense.
@@jack073 lmfao if the block was made of gold it would be pathetically weak, it's billet aluminum and anodized in that colour as that's the colour the billet blocks come as. the blocks are safe for up to 1000hp
Shout out to IAG for my short block build...going with a 35r and shooting for 600hp on 93 pump gas with all supporting mods...just something to get me around town
Nice man my Stage 2 Tuff should be finished being built this week!
a built subbie pushing 350 whp and still have everyday drive ability and reliability, I wish I lived in Australia to have my car built like that!!
You can buy a new sti for the same price and make payments on it instead of spending $10,000 on your block alone lol.
@@fredramsey8965 but then you have $10,000 into an STi with less than 230whp... feels like a loss.
Excellent video but was hoping you'd name all the turbos and discuss them individually so I can have a better understanding of the others apart from the tdo4... So I still not sure what's the name of 3rd and the 4th turbo on the table..
This build is coming along very nicely! I can't wait to see this come together!
Good vid Brett. I must say your customer must have plenty of dosh to build a billet motor and not use it's potential!
Always been a huge fan of the ej series motors everything is bolt on
can't wait to see how this turns out!
Love u vids man. So informative. Cheers from the usa.
Once again excellent video. Keep them coming!
he knows what he is talking about. very informative. thnx
thanks
Great video! Looking at updating my turbocharger from a TD04L 13T, to a VF31. Reason for Vf31 is that I can get one in great condition off. Friend. Problem is, I cant find any real info on a Vf31. Is it an upgrade from a TD04l? Thanks :)
Very interesting and enjoyable videos, keep it up!
I am going with the verticooler and building my WRX for pure bottom and mids. high end power is overrated unless you are always on a track. When I built my G35 I went for top end performance and mid to high rpm was great, but nothing below 3500. which is generally the DD operation range.
Absolutely true. Not is all final power. The torque and good spool is better than monster hp numbers.
hey Brett thanks for the video going to keep follow and pick your brain about my 93 Rs Liberty in the future ;-D cheers
Everyone saying that this setup isn't running enough power to justify a billet block..I have a friend who runs that same Garrett turbo in his STI and it made 480 on the dyno.. thats still a TON of power but yet, still comfortable to daily drive. Sure its a little tame for how far you could push this engine but it won't be slow by any means, and rotated kit can always come later if you feel like making a monster of a car.
Most are shooting for 7 - 800whp on the my15 sti, this billet block build should start there, and progress to destruction mode, where we could all learn to make better decisions on how to improve our daily commute in every ?or any destination that we choose, track, work, school what ever. You can turn it down in public and dad can turn it up at the race track, knowing he and his best mate gave it a good go yeh or nah
Please make a video about how to size a turbo to your build
Hola buenas me gustaria actulizar los turbo de fabrica de mi b4 3g tiene vf27y vf26 por cual turbos se podrían actualizar siempre montando 2 turbos ojala pueda alludar un fiel seguidor de chile gracias
you will build one for me oneday love the vids!
Any chance you guys have a shop in the states?
Apart from the rotated inlet of the 09 what else was an improvement with it?
I have a tdo4 turbo and planning on doing a upgrade and want to know which is the best turbo to choose and why, I've already change my stock top mount intercooler to the Sti intercooler.
Hello my friend !!!
quick question, you specialise in Subaru
I got an 2006 Forester Cross Sports 2.0 T AT do you know possibly which turbo is in my car and if what turbo I can replace it with ????
Id love to have that motor in a STI minus the top mount intercooler. Why not go all out for the car you love and can afford to own.
There never enough money Slice
What is that biggest turbo he was talking about. I missed it he said the model of it or not
Hi Brett, if it was about bottom end torque, wouldn't a twin scroll better?
Also are these mods legal?
Greco Conduris regaurdless of if its legal or not, i doubt a cop would pick it. i cant even see my turbo easily without removing the intercooler. then they all look much the same at a glance.
Ben Vos Hi Ben, whilst I agree with this particular build and Perhaps WRXs in general a cop may not pick it up. Having said that about 10 years ago a mate of mine had a shop build a GTi-R for him. You name it, it had it. Large aftermarket turbo, Jun stroker, FMIC, power FC, injectors, PPG box etc. I have no idea what it cost, but must of been close to 50k with car, parts, labour and tuning. On something like it's 2nd outing got pulled over by the cops, EPA and put off the road. Now that's a bad story as it is, but it gets worse. He pays to get it put back to standard, gets it back on the road, then pays for all the mods to be put back on. Couple weeks later pinged again. It nearly broke him. He landed just getting rid of it after that. So whilst he might be extremely unlucky. It worry me my hard earned could be just thrown away like that.
Greco Conduris wow, that is shit for luck.
i was nearly stickered a few weeks ago for my window tint.
lucky the cop had a change of heart.
Ben Vos that's nice of him
john smith haha Little John your preaching to the wrong choir. Whilst I am a car enthusiast, I have a sports car and an old muscle car, I am also a bike enthusiast. I rode sports bikes for a long time and now I have a Harley. So I have to disagree with you that they are POS. I love riding my bike. Even more than driving my cars. I'm not sure if you ride, but there is something next level about riding bikes that cars can't even come close to matching. And only riders know it.
The TMIC will help them in a road circuit to get in and out of corners.
Are you the guys that actually held information hostage pertaining to oil passage blockage and restriction i.e. factory oil screens causing issues and failure of turbos and more? Before it became common knowledge I swear I resourced this subject for 40 hours over the course of 2 years. Finally bought a brand new ihi genuine subaru turbo in box. Installed it and spun the bearing immediately. 1400 dollars. I'd that was you guys who put out a video years ago going into detail listing the symptoms but at the end of the video making a statement to the effect of we know why this happens but we're keeping that bit of information as our own trade secret. So bring your car to us or better luck next life.. hopefully that was another shop.
Cause I subscribed during this video. But if that was you guys then I'll un subscribe. Dirty
i am running catless dp and cobb uppipe with stock turbo 2013 wrx
What do you use the retaining compound for? loctite 641. Do you use it to seal in oil gallery plugs?
Hey I’m looking for a good vf turbo that has good low end torque curve while also having good top end power. I need one good for 350 hp. Any suggestions? I was thinking about a vf39 but I may need to go bigger to support 350hp??
Hi Brett question for you. I have a 06 WRX and I am waiting on a part for it that causes my plugs to foul up fast and was wondering if I can use NGK BKR7E plugs because the original ones are quite pricey and I don't want to use them ACH time they foul up
I wonder how much you can get out of the stock td04. I would love to know
a lot of useful info, thanks
What Garrett was the last turbo?
hey mrt I have a quick question I finally did he forged internals build and now that it's starting to get a little bit cold here in Texas I smell Rall gas on the driver side with the car running I check the fuel lines I do not see any fuel leaking out what could it be
Whats the turbo second to last?
wrxs had td05 until like 1998 they went with td04
What vf turbo would you recommend for my 2007 wrx with an ej255?
You forgot about the td05 they used
What existing Subaru turbo would you recommend for a ez30 build. Not looking for insane power just want a turbo 6 cylinder with good low end power
sorry, turbo options vary heaps, best we not suggest here.
What flange is run on the vf38 from the ej20x? bought a jdm ej20x to replace the blown and sold engine from a 2008wrx
and i need a downpipe option any information is appreciated.
What one would be the easiest upgrade for my 05 Legacy GT 2.5?
I thought the 94-95 Wrx turbo was a td05 then they changed to a tdo4
Mick David yeah I thought they went smaller 97-2000 that's why the older ones are worth more. Bigger in the bigeye to make up for weight and to go with improved heads.
Yhanks
No video part numbers on the titles?
Any tips you could give to revive my 1992 subaru legacy turbo? Turbo leaks bad
If compression is good fix all your leaks first. Replace all your fluids and do your timing belt, water pump, idlers/tensioner, and spark plugs.Sounds like you need to reseal your turbo, look up some how tos for that or replace your turbo with a used wrx one (or another cheap option). Make sure and check the turbo inlet hose, they crack and fail on 2002 subarus let alone one that's 10 years older. If your fluids are new, you're getting good spark, and there aren't any leaks in your turbo system your car should be doing pretty well.
With that block you could've almost went with compound turbos
whats size is the turbo ? gtx3582R ?
no love for EA82T's and their RHB5's? ;)
Does this customer really need the billet block, or just have deep pockets?
Legal makes for easy life with performance.....I presume that's the goal, but with reliable, on tap grunt.....
What turbo is that? I don't believe he ever says in the video
chris winter no, he didn't, but it looks like a Garrett GT30xx series, most likely a GT3076R. That's actually a great all around turbo, and it's about as big as you can go in the stock location without having to go to a rotated setup.
chris winter looks like a Turbo Dynamics turbine housing they used as a base...
i know right; most annoying part doesn't say what size the Garret turbos are
wow so someone is dropping over 15k in a billet block and says he wants it to be close to factory........ face palm
GOlD BlocK
Godlike27 nothing wrong about that...why invest in an expensive upgrade just to run it down to the ground and destroy it?
@@d-a-e because its a block with a hp potential of over 1000 being kept at stock power levels. Unless its a progressive procedure then getting a billet block is utterly useless. just get a semi closed deck machined in, and machine some sleeves if you need to
Inverted V12 Powerhouse I think that is the problem. Just cause it is rated for such hp levels doesn’t mean you need to take it all the way there. If I have the funds, I will do the same for maximum reliability. Semi closed decks are crap especially if you decide to have fun with the car sometimes and try to see what the thing can do...and there should be no reason not to push the thing to redline we all buy cars like these because they are super fun to drive but at the expense of reliability
@@d-a-e semi closed are not crap... They prevent blown HGs. Im not saying he should psuh the block to 1500hp but that leaving it at 305 is an utter waste of money.
Why the billet high HP case for low HP street driving? Kinda seams like a waist of money for his needs.
You never once mentioned what type of turbos were being used for the last 2... Just said this turbo and that turbo...
I don't know about you, but if I don't spend that much money I would like to drive it everyday
:) saludos desde chile
300kW? isn't a billet block absurd massive overkill for that? What can a billet block do for a 300kW setup that a standard built Subaru block can't? I watched the first few vids, so I know the general differences. Is a Subaru block really questionable at only 300kW? I don't mean this to come across as me hating, just trying to follow the logic here.
check the TORQUE, (its not power that kills subaru engines)
May Also might want to work it forward in future
Billet blocks are also easier to work on when we add sleeves. And good for high performance since its built with extreme accuracy
why would he spend all that money on a bloody billet crank case and not modify to the full extent, should have just close decked the thing!!
these cars are just money pits, if you modify one thing the next becomes a weak point, i got my engine rebuilt with forged internals for my forester XT capable of 300kwatw, but i was more about reliability than all out power + then my gearbox is now the weak point thats 6-7 gs to upgrade, then a larger turbo, injectors, flex fuel, headers, up pipe ect it doesnt end, no thanks i got better places to spend my money atm like re-investing so i can buy real cars like a Mercedes or a BMW ect, at the end of the day its still a subaru and i think maturity is telling me i need a euro car soon!!
The Unknown lmfao a lot of euro cars are at the top of money pit lists !
+the unknown obviously didn't watch the whole video or listen to what brett was saying
Mate i watch to the end and listened a closed deck would have got the same results that billet crack case would be for massiveeeeee power, its not economical to me, it would have cost some $$$$
$15000 wooooow fuckn holy shitballs, that would be the cost of a really good full forged closed deck ported and polished heads, without the ancillaries and plenty of power to have fun!!! plus MRT is expensive as fuck, at the end of the day you really need to realise its a car and you will never get your money back, there's smarter ways of creating a strong powerfull engine with the right components and using the money in other areas as you mentioned previously!
So, how much hp is 1,000 kilowatt's?
Noel Molina, if you want to be really technical 1341.022
1:02 that is a wastegate actuator...... not a boost control solenoid wtf
I see nothing but major boost creep with that baby wastegate! Wastegate is way to small for that compressor.👍
Maybe that's why he needed the billet block. Should hold up to it lol.
Brock Taylor that block won't help he will still get boost creep! 44mm external gate is what's needed.
It could not have been clearer that I was joking....
Brock Taylor 😂👍
@@jimmypapanikolau4117 cock
Why do Australia measure power in kettles? Yes m8 my car has 400 kettles power to the wheels.
Stage X block and you don't rotate the turbo... the customer is an idiot. Stage 3 tuff or stage 4 would have been just fine.
Why buy a $10,000 block if you're not going to push HP numbers at even half what it's rated? Complete waste of money, imo, love the knowledge and info in the video though.
twin scroll would of been way better for street car
why would you buy a billet block thats overkill could have saved tonnes with a closed deck block would have been just as good!!
Billet block for a road car? wow, overkill imo
s.o.s. my wrx ayuda
This is confusing
vf11 lol
What a waste of a billet block...
Hey Guy's, are you still up and running?