Just a tip from a old cook. when your planning on grinding meat, the night before leave out some bread to get hard preferably french bread. When your done grinding the meat put it aside and run the bread through the grinder, it makes clean up easy. Enjoyed the clip.
We use our Kitchen Aid every few months or so to make up about five to six pounds of basic sausages. It's just the two of us at home now, and we don't need to feed a family anymore. It's never let us down and the sausage is always good. For occasional, small batches we recommend it. The grinder is tucked into a drawer, out of the way and taking up minimal space.
I started out with a Waring Pro grinder. For $ 80 or so it was pretty nice. But the grind rate was slow and always felt like one day it would die in the middle of grinding a brisket. I grind beef for hamburgers, pork for sausage / boudin, and pork for breakfast sausage so i do use it a few times a month. I finally decided to go with a bigger and better grinder and bought a Western Pro I got on sale for $ 400. At 3/4 HP it doesn't even break a sweat. It was well worth it not only for the speed but also knowing that it wasn't going to crap out on me in the middle of a grind. I have one tip for buying a commercial grinder. Go with at least a #12. There is a better assortment of grinding plates for #12 and larger grinders and they usually can be used for other attachments.
I’ve been using that mid range one now for a few years , about 30 deer have gone through it and it was purchased for 80 dollars at a yard sale. This year I will replace it but it takes me about 2 hours total to get through around 30 pounds of whitetail semi frozen . Twice through the number 10 and once through the 7 . It takes patience and I’ve finally run out lol but all the same it was a great learning tool that was cheap. I could still sell it for 80 bucks too I’m sure but I’ll keep it for those weekends when beef goes on sale at Costco . Awesome video , great comparisons . Straight and to the point .
Very nice video. Clear and concise. I remember doing 20 pounds of pork sausage through a hand crank tabletop grinder some 30+ years ago. Damn that was rough.
I think you're spot on with this. Right now I use the kitchenaid brand all metal grinder attachment, and it works well. For years, I worked processing meat, grinding burger, and making sausage. I don't notice too much of a loss of grind quality on the kitchenaid versus one of the large hobart commercial grinders I used previously. The throughput, as you mentioned, is a huge difference though. The throat is usable but it definitely likes to be chopped up finely to get things down better. I do miss the days of the commercial hopper style grinder where you open the top, dump 40lbs of meat in, and it sits right on top of the long auger and feeds itself perfectly. Even so, I don't have any issues with the temps or overheating, or the meat gumming up.
I'd agree with all of that. The KitchenAid attachment has been good for someone who just grinds their own sausages every now and again. It's not great, and can sometimes be a bit of a pain to get meat through, but it gets the job done. Some things I do that seem to help a good deal are to make sure the meat/grinder attachment are left in the freezer for an hour or so before I grind them, and instead of trying to cube the meat, I cut it into longer strips. I found the long strips pull through the auger a lot better than the cubes did, where I felt like I was spending so much time constantly trying to jam the meat through.
My Kitchenaid with the smokehouse chef grinder does a great job. Important to use cold meat. And you were only grinding on speed 2. You’re suppose to grind on 4 which would go twice as fast.
There are a lot of meat grinder attachments available for the Kitchen Aid. Prices range from $25 to $125. How about testing and comparing some of those?
Last time I looked, which has been awhile, there were two. The all plastic one they had for years, and they finally came out with a metal one, which I bought. We don’t grind much ( as I work next to the meat guys at work, so I get what I want ), put the wife loves the metal kitchen aid attachment, and it serves its purpose.
@@luvyesmusici4886 Yes, KitchenAid now sells 2 models, one plastic, one metal. However, for years they only sold a plastic one. I had 2 plastic ones crack at the connection to the mixer. I was also frustrated by the limited number of proprietary grinder plates available. Then, a few companies started selling metal meat grinders compatible with Kitchen Aid mixers. I got one from Chef's Choice for about $100 because I have other Chef's Choice products and I love it. It uses industry standard grinder plates and knives so you can get finer and coarser plates if I want them. Now, there are at least a dozen different grinders that fit KitchenAid mixer on Amazon, mostly metal, from $30 to $150. Some use standard plates (a round cutout), other use more proprietary plates (2 tabs). The current Kitchen Aid metal bodied grinder is on sale now for $75 and includes 3 different plates (instead of 2), a stuffing plate, stuffing tubes, cleaning brush and a pusher. It looks like both KitchenAid grinders (plastic and metal) are larger in diameter than my old plastic ones. This should increase grinding speed compared to the older plastic attachments. The $50 metal grinder tested in the video is "KitoArt" brand not KitchenAid.
What I found out helps out a lot with the kitchen aid grinder is spray everything down with vegetable oil before you grind makes everything move nice and smooth and keeps it piled up after about every 2 pounds and I pull everything apart I spray it again makes everything real easy won’t stick as bad been using a kitchen air for a good amount of time grinding deer so far this season I’ve done over 20 pounds with it
Tip....., keep your grinder knives (and plates) sharp. 400-600 grit wet/dry sandpaper stuck to a piece of glass, keep paper wet (water is fine), maintain even pressure, alternating circular motion for eveness of cut (figure eight works too). Or do what i finally did and buy sharpening discs (from SAUSAGE MAKER) that fit your grinder size. Assemble, turn on, run 5-8 seconds and you're done. *Dull knife/plates cause excess heat which contributes to smearing of fat.
I have a cheap heavy duty..$100 grinder..I just do small batch burger and homemade sausage..It serves me well..My only complaint with it is the auger is a little too small in circumference for the tube. Check for auger fit before you buy one..Good video...
I just needed a grinder that was better than the Kitchen-Aid brand attachment made out of plastic and always cracks at the pin. This one is all metal and I haven't had any problem grinding a couple of lb's of meat at a time.
I would not compare a KitoArt Chinese cheap attachment to the KitchenAid actual attachment. The Kitchen Aid attachment, 4 blades produced no dulling of the fat for the first pass like all grinders after time. It will 100% blend in with each pass after. A Commercial Hobart will do the same thing. Agree with your tier selection. Once a month/week KitchenAid. Once a day. Hobby Grinder. A whole Elk or cow. Hobart. Skip the 400 dollar purchase all together. Become a man and open your own butcher. Seriously 400 for a meat grinder. Not worth it.
Freezing the cubed meat helps the cut quality of the kitchen aid. Also which grind plate you use makes a difference. I don’t think you mentioned which plate you used for the test, if so I missed it.
It was an 8mm plate on the Kitchen Aid and mid tier and 4.5mm on the big grinder. I would have liked to keep everything the same, but only had a 10mm and 4.5mm plate. The smaller grind plate probably contributed to the speed on it too, but I didn't want to go coarser than the other two.
I have a KitchenAid mixer; I am eyeing the Kitoart. The main task of this grinder will be the creation of raw cat food. Will the Ketoart process chicken, rabbit bones?
I started out with a hand grinder. That mfer was work! All day long to do 5 lbs. Got a half horse and now I can do 20 lbs in about half a day including cleanup.
Ok just saying, it drives me nuts when people say ,it's all metal,technically yes, but the kitchenaid is still aluminium which is not dishwasher safe, teints the meat black.when grinding because aluminiun rubs against aluminium.
I didn't have room to put them all in the freezer so I kept them all out. I also put the frozen meat in the Kitchen Aid grinder first so it would have the best shot.
All metal isn't equal. Just because it's "all metal" does not mean it's a quality piece. Regarding the KitchenAid attachments, for under $50, you are going to get either a plastic model, or a diecast aluminum, probably made in China by an aftermarket supplier. Either of these may or may not include plastic gears, which are quieter, but not the most durable. AVOID die cast aluminum. The housing is not dishwasher safe, and it's prone to cracking or breaking. The best models are made with stainless steel, and the manufacturer will proudly advertise this fact. Any grinder attachment that's advertised as "metal" probably has a diecast aluminum housing. I'd actually prefer the abs housing over the diecast, because plastic is less prone to having the ground meat clogging up in the housing. And in my experience, the Kitchen Aid branded models fit better, and generally feel of higher quality. The comments about diecast aluminum vs stainless also apply to the cheaper motorized, stand-alone units.
also, if your grind quality isn't what you think it should be, you may need to resurface the grinder plates and the knife. Rather than try to explain the process in a few words, I'd suggest you look on UA-cam for how-to videos. I only use my grinder infrequently, but I perform maintenance on the plates and knife at least once every year (and more often, if necessary).
@@GrillTopExperience appreciate the response. I was curious if the brand choice may have affected the issue. Definitely an attachment we are interested in.
@@GrillTopExperience LOL I just checked their website and that grinder is identical to the original Cabela's Carnivore from a few years back. I compared their 1 hp to my 1 hp Carnivore and for the most part the major difference is the color, and the pull knob for the storage drawer. Everything else looks exactly the same. Thanks for the reply.
Idk about him but I ended up getting a Ninja Food Processor BN601 model. It chops or grinds meat just fine and can do a lot more for what I need. On sale rn at Kohls and maybe Amazon for $100
If heat in the cutting elements is such an issue, why don't want of them make a basin for an ice bath around the cutting elements? They are metal and could be easily cooled from the outside
That "KitchenAid" attachment isn't KitchenAid. I have the real one and yours isn't. The cut quality on mine is clean, but more important is the chill of the meat. Kitoart isn't KitchenAid. Otherwise great review, I was considering upgrading from my authentic KitchenAid attachment but I really only do 200lb of meat a year spread out and I don't mind putting in some knife work at the beginning.
You'll probably have a hard time finding a grinder that advertises that it can do bones, but some models have reviews from raw dog feeders like you. You'll need a bigger grinder or you'll either be frustrated or burn up the motor.
It's far less expensive. You know exactly what's going into your ground meat. You can choose which cuts to use ( i.e. for ground beef, I use sirloin, brisket, and shortrib). It's a lot of work, and you need to buy a vacuum sealer, but it's 100% worth it.
1. Don't waste time with Kitchenaid. It is a joke. It sucks. Period. Throw it out. 2. Are you catching an express train? Slow down. Pause between paragraphs of speech. Speak naturally. This new fad of speeding up speech to eliminate natural pauses makes it very disagreeable from viewer point of view. Try it sometime. 3. Show don't talk. Show the blades, the HP, the Watts, the weight, the lbs/min, the flaws, are the gears plastic, are the blades long or short, footprint. Nothing. Just blah blah blah. Useless.
@@GrillTopExperience thanks for the info . I’ve been looking for a decent grinder . They get pretty expensive . Lol I’ve been looking at vevor brand and s few others .
Just a tip from a old cook. when your planning on grinding meat, the night before leave out some bread to get hard preferably french bread. When your done grinding the meat put it aside and run the bread through the grinder, it makes clean up easy. Enjoyed the clip.
there is no such thing as an "old" cook..........anthony bourdain
Or produce ends, like onions or carrots.
Or just use ice.
Or just a fist full of the minced meat…
bread is cancer
We use our Kitchen Aid every few months or so to make up about five to six pounds of basic sausages. It's just the two of us at home now, and we don't need to feed a family anymore. It's never let us down and the sausage is always good. For occasional, small batches we recommend it. The grinder is tucked into a drawer, out of the way and taking up minimal space.
I started out with a Waring Pro grinder. For $ 80 or so it was pretty nice. But the grind rate was slow and always felt like one day it would die in the middle of grinding a brisket.
I grind beef for hamburgers, pork for sausage / boudin, and pork for breakfast sausage so i do use it a few times a month. I finally decided to go with a bigger and better grinder and bought a Western Pro I got on sale for $ 400. At 3/4 HP it doesn't even break a sweat. It was well worth it not only for the speed but also knowing that it wasn't going to crap out on me in the middle of a grind.
I have one tip for buying a commercial grinder. Go with at least a #12. There is a better assortment of grinding plates for #12 and larger grinders and they usually can be used for other attachments.
I’ve been using that mid range one now for a few years , about 30 deer have gone through it and it was purchased for 80 dollars at a yard sale. This year I will replace it but it takes me about 2 hours total to get through around 30 pounds of whitetail semi frozen . Twice through the number 10 and once through the 7 . It takes patience and I’ve finally run out lol but all the same it was a great learning tool that was cheap. I could still sell it for 80 bucks too I’m sure but I’ll keep it for those weekends when beef goes on sale at Costco . Awesome video , great comparisons . Straight and to the point .
Very nice video. Clear and concise.
I remember doing 20 pounds of pork sausage through a hand crank tabletop grinder some 30+ years ago. Damn that was rough.
I think you're spot on with this. Right now I use the kitchenaid brand all metal grinder attachment, and it works well. For years, I worked processing meat, grinding burger, and making sausage. I don't notice too much of a loss of grind quality on the kitchenaid versus one of the large hobart commercial grinders I used previously. The throughput, as you mentioned, is a huge difference though. The throat is usable but it definitely likes to be chopped up finely to get things down better. I do miss the days of the commercial hopper style grinder where you open the top, dump 40lbs of meat in, and it sits right on top of the long auger and feeds itself perfectly. Even so, I don't have any issues with the temps or overheating, or the meat gumming up.
Thanks for this comment, I'm just about to purchase the kitchen aid brand all metal grinder lol
I'd agree with all of that. The KitchenAid attachment has been good for someone who just grinds their own sausages every now and again. It's not great, and can sometimes be a bit of a pain to get meat through, but it gets the job done.
Some things I do that seem to help a good deal are to make sure the meat/grinder attachment are left in the freezer for an hour or so before I grind them, and instead of trying to cube the meat, I cut it into longer strips. I found the long strips pull through the auger a lot better than the cubes did, where I felt like I was spending so much time constantly trying to jam the meat through.
My Kitchenaid with the smokehouse chef grinder does a great job. Important to use cold meat. And you were only grinding on speed 2. You’re suppose to grind on 4 which would go twice as fast.
Wouldn't want to do a whole deer with the kitchenaid.... me who has done three through a kitchenaid attachment now and hoping to finally upgrade 😆
Did you push venison bones through?!
There are a lot of meat grinder attachments available for the Kitchen Aid. Prices range from $25 to $125. How about testing and comparing some of those?
Last time I looked, which has been awhile, there were two. The all plastic one they had for years, and they finally came out with a metal one, which I bought. We don’t grind much ( as I work next to the meat guys at work, so I get what I want ), put the wife loves the metal kitchen aid attachment, and it serves its purpose.
@@luvyesmusici4886 Yes, KitchenAid now sells 2 models, one plastic, one metal. However, for years they only sold a plastic one. I had 2 plastic ones crack at the connection to the mixer. I was also frustrated by the limited number of proprietary grinder plates available. Then, a few companies started selling metal meat grinders compatible with Kitchen Aid mixers. I got one from Chef's Choice for about $100 because I have other Chef's Choice products and I love it. It uses industry standard grinder plates and knives so you can get finer and coarser plates if I want them.
Now, there are at least a dozen different grinders that fit KitchenAid mixer on Amazon, mostly metal, from $30 to $150. Some use standard plates (a round cutout), other use more proprietary plates (2 tabs). The current Kitchen Aid metal bodied grinder is on sale now for $75 and includes 3 different plates (instead of 2), a stuffing plate, stuffing tubes, cleaning brush and a pusher. It looks like both KitchenAid grinders (plastic and metal) are larger in diameter than my old plastic ones. This should increase grinding speed compared to the older plastic attachments.
The $50 metal grinder tested in the video is "KitoArt" brand not KitchenAid.
What I found out helps out a lot with the kitchen aid grinder is spray everything down with vegetable oil before you grind makes everything move nice and smooth and keeps it piled up after about every 2 pounds and I pull everything apart I spray it again makes everything real easy won’t stick as bad been using a kitchen air for a good amount of time grinding deer so far this season I’ve done over 20 pounds with it
vegetable oils are toxic and will make u sick
Thanks for laying this out for us.
Tip....., keep your grinder knives (and plates) sharp. 400-600 grit wet/dry sandpaper stuck to a piece of glass, keep paper wet (water is fine), maintain even pressure, alternating circular motion for eveness of cut (figure eight works too).
Or do what i finally did and buy sharpening discs (from SAUSAGE MAKER) that fit your grinder size. Assemble, turn on, run 5-8 seconds and you're done.
*Dull knife/plates cause excess heat which contributes to smearing of fat.
That grinding stone looks awesome. How often do you recommend sharpening them?
I have a cheap heavy duty..$100 grinder..I just do small batch burger and homemade sausage..It serves me well..My only complaint with it is the auger is a little too small in circumference for the tube. Check for auger fit before you buy one..Good video...
Cabela's $400 grinder has a removable ice pack that goes around the auger housing. In my book, that's a game changer above and beyond all the rest.
For small batches a good food processor can do the job but keeping the meat properly chilled becomes very very very important.
I've used that method too. It takes some patience to make sure you don't make it too fine and it has to be cold like you mentioned.
I just needed a grinder that was better than the Kitchen-Aid brand attachment made out of plastic and always cracks at the pin. This one is all metal and I haven't had any problem grinding a couple of lb's of meat at a time.
I would not compare a KitoArt Chinese cheap attachment to the KitchenAid actual attachment. The Kitchen Aid attachment, 4 blades produced no dulling of the fat for the first pass like all grinders after time. It will 100% blend in with each pass after. A Commercial Hobart will do the same thing.
Agree with your tier selection. Once a month/week KitchenAid. Once a day. Hobby Grinder. A whole Elk or cow. Hobart. Skip the 400 dollar purchase all together. Become a man and open your own butcher. Seriously 400 for a meat grinder. Not worth it.
Freezing the cubed meat helps the cut quality of the kitchen aid. Also which grind plate you use makes a difference. I don’t think you mentioned which plate you used for the test, if so I missed it.
It was an 8mm plate on the Kitchen Aid and mid tier and 4.5mm on the big grinder. I would have liked to keep everything the same, but only had a 10mm and 4.5mm plate. The smaller grind plate probably contributed to the speed on it too, but I didn't want to go coarser than the other two.
For the kitchenaid attachment, is that the aluminum or stainless steel version?
Great video and great information
The kitchen aid grinder is supposed to be run at speed 4
I have a KitchenAid mixer; I am eyeing the Kitoart. The main task of this grinder will be the creation of raw cat food. Will the Ketoart process chicken, rabbit bones?
I have a Bauknecht grinder. Can you tell me the value. It’s never been used
I started out with a hand grinder. That mfer was work! All day long to do 5 lbs. Got a half horse and now I can do 20 lbs in about half a day including cleanup.
helped, thanks
do this for manuals
Ok just saying, it drives me nuts when people say ,it's all metal,technically yes, but the kitchenaid is still aluminium which is not dishwasher safe, teints the meat black.when grinding because aluminiun rubs against aluminium.
Do Kitchen Aid not offer a meat grinder themselves? Seems to me that you may not be comparing apples to apples.
The one they make is 50% more expensive. The plastic version in the same price range gets terrible reviews.
Forgot to put the Kitchen Aid in the Freezer before the grind my friend
I didn't have room to put them all in the freezer so I kept them all out. I also put the frozen meat in the Kitchen Aid grinder first so it would have the best shot.
What brand and model is the $400 meat grinder? TIA
I got sucked into the marketing and got one from Meat! It's been a really good unit.
All metal isn't equal. Just because it's "all metal" does not mean it's a quality piece. Regarding the KitchenAid attachments, for under $50, you are going to get either a plastic model, or a diecast aluminum, probably made in China by an aftermarket supplier. Either of these may or may not include plastic gears, which are quieter, but not the most durable.
AVOID die cast aluminum. The housing is not dishwasher safe, and it's prone to cracking or breaking. The best models are made with stainless steel, and the manufacturer will proudly advertise this fact. Any grinder attachment that's advertised as "metal" probably has a diecast aluminum housing. I'd actually prefer the abs housing over the diecast, because plastic is less prone to having the ground meat clogging up in the housing. And in my experience, the Kitchen Aid branded models fit better, and generally feel of higher quality. The comments about diecast aluminum vs stainless also apply to the cheaper motorized, stand-alone units.
also, if your grind quality isn't what you think it should be, you may need to resurface the grinder plates and the knife. Rather than try to explain the process in a few words, I'd suggest you look on UA-cam for how-to videos. I only use my grinder infrequently, but I perform maintenance on the plates and knife at least once every year (and more often, if necessary).
Is the attachment used on the KitchenAid made by KitchenAid or is it a different brand ? Using a non KitchenAid brand definitely affects the quality.
It's a different brand that got better ratings than the plastic model from kitchen aid that's the same price.
@@GrillTopExperience appreciate the response. I was curious if the brand choice may have affected the issue. Definitely an attachment we are interested in.
The bread will also push out the last of the meat.
What mid grinder do you have?
That $100 grinder was a black Friday special at Cabelas.
This is an excellent video. Thank you
Who makes that $400 machine. To me it looks like a Cabela's Carnivore with different sheet metal covering the motor. In fact I'd bet on it.
That one is from Meat! Your maker. As of right now, the Cabela's grinder is less expensive.
@@GrillTopExperience LOL I just checked their website and that grinder is identical to the original Cabela's Carnivore from a few years back. I compared their 1 hp to my 1 hp Carnivore and for the most part the major difference is the color, and the pull knob for the storage drawer. Everything else looks exactly the same. Thanks for the reply.
Great info... I got the kitchenaid but actually never used it. I think mine is plastic..
If you got it . . . use it! That'll help you decide if you want a nicer one some day.
That $400 meat grinder is now $559! Not sure what caused the price to go up almost 40% other than price gouging!
It's listed for $479 and is currently on sale for $408. It's less expensive on their site.
@@GrillTopExperience the link that you have for it has it listed at $559!
@@GrillTopExperience but I see on their website where it’s $407 and change! Thanks and great channel!
What brand is the $400 one?
There are lots of grinders at that price point and quality. I got sucked into the Meat Your Maker brand when they went on sale this summer.
It looks like a "Meat Your Maker" If you're looking for a nice one look at the LEM big bite #12. 5 year warranty and they have very good support.
Link for the mid tier?
There are a lot that could work in this category. I got mine from Cabela's a few years ago. It was on the black Friday deal again this year.
What's the exact model you bought?
Idk about him but I ended up getting a Ninja Food Processor BN601 model. It chops or grinds meat just fine and can do a lot more for what I need. On sale rn at Kohls and maybe Amazon for $100
used my kitchen aid once. never again lol...well maybe...haha
If heat in the cutting elements is such an issue, why don't want of them make a basin for an ice bath around the cutting elements? They are metal and could be easily cooled from the outside
No, your KitchenAid grinders are not going to compare to a dedicated meat grinder no matter your attachment. Comments here seem misinformed.
Plastic gears are designed to protect the user and motor, just FYI. They're not simply money grabs.
That "KitchenAid" attachment isn't KitchenAid. I have the real one and yours isn't. The cut quality on mine is clean, but more important is the chill of the meat. Kitoart isn't KitchenAid. Otherwise great review, I was considering upgrading from my authentic KitchenAid attachment but I really only do 200lb of meat a year spread out and I don't mind putting in some knife work at the beginning.
What about grinding chicken bones?? I'm making raw dog food but I need one that grinds chicken bones without spending a fortune?
You'll probably have a hard time finding a grinder that advertises that it can do bones, but some models have reviews from raw dog feeders like you. You'll need a bigger grinder or you'll either be frustrated or burn up the motor.
@@GrillTopExperience Yes.. Do you have any suggestions?
This isn't a KitchenAid meat grinder, it's some crap.
whats the point of grinding meat is this a western thing?
It's far less expensive. You know exactly what's going into your ground meat. You can choose which cuts to use ( i.e. for ground beef, I use sirloin, brisket, and shortrib). It's a lot of work, and you need to buy a vacuum sealer, but it's 100% worth it.
1. Don't waste time with Kitchenaid. It is a joke. It sucks. Period. Throw it out.
2. Are you catching an express train? Slow down. Pause between paragraphs of speech. Speak naturally. This new fad of speeding up speech to eliminate natural pauses makes it very disagreeable from viewer point of view. Try it sometime.
3. Show don't talk. Show the blades, the HP, the Watts, the weight, the lbs/min, the flaws, are the gears plastic, are the blades long or short, footprint. Nothing. Just blah blah blah. Useless.
The kitchen aod no doupt would have being better of you bougjt the proper one and not a knock off
Doubtful, KitchenAid might still have the name, but quality wise they’re nothing like they were 30-40 years ago. They might as well change their name.
I want to be a meat grinder myaelf?..
What make and model is the $400 one ? You said 3/4 hp . Goes it have reverse and what size grinder head #8 #12 #22 #32 ? Thank you
I got sucked into the Meat Your Maker marketing, but I'm happy with the purchase. It's a #12 and I was surprised it doesn't go in reverse.
@@GrillTopExperience thanks for the info . I’ve been looking for a decent grinder . They get pretty expensive . Lol I’ve been looking at vevor brand and s few others .