love how moky hits 9 multishines in a row in between stocks and charlie doesn't even acknowledge it, probably not knowing how hard it is. Meanwhile I'm watching and shitting my pants at the sight of it
I mean, moist watches melee and knows a bit about it, he literally sponsors moky. I think he is just well aware of how cracked and technical of a player moky is
Would love to see a Melee tournament for various non-smash online influencers. They each get a pro and training time before competing in a charity. It's a proven formula and I think Melee would be sick
I mean, that just sounds like melee pogchamps. Pogchamps is a staple now and I think melee could do a fantastic version of it. I think you have a great idea here!
@@AshROAosu 2 issues I see with that are 1. low level melee can be a bit boring to watch, and 2. the skill floor to be able to just move well can take months to learn so it may not be feasible for this kind of event.
@@evanhyde581 1.) People don't watch pogchamps for the high level chess play. They watch it to see influencers try to beat each other at it. 2.) Similar to point 1, they don't need to be competent. It's supposed to be low level by nature, that's kinda the point
@@evanhyde581 People will get better at the game faster than you give them credit for. And idk low level melee can be kinda hype. The people who win the bracket will probably be kinda decent
i was just thinking that moist had like the 2 top melee players that really care about melee content and is run by 2 huge content creators who care about smash glad to see it all coming together
For real, if you had 2 players of equal skill where one could only use Fox down b and the other could only use Peach down smash I'm not sure I see a world where Fox ever wins lol
I suppose if you really think about the meta of it technically the Fox could try its best to bait down smashes from peach to get openings and focus on aerial shines then ground shines as a follow up once that opening happens. I think frame data wise fox has the advantage just because of that, the fox just has to play very carefully.
LeMoky "Dokie" James just invented shine->shine combos and the world will never be the same. moist critical doesn't know he is the Robert Oppenheimer to moky's atomic bomb here. While you are drunk on peace 𝘉𝘦𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘔𝘰𝘬𝘦 I'm preparing for what happens 𝘈𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘋𝘰𝘬𝘦. I'll see you all in the Nuclear Wasteland, bring your sticks.
8:44 I the way how moky explains “pineappled” lovingly to Charlie reminds me of how I explained it to my gf when we entered a casual doubles bracket at an anime convention
Charlie’s not bad for someone who doesn’t play Melee. If he had more time in the game he’d probably eventually complain about how his hands might hurt after playing for a while.
After the other shenanigans I fully expected it to secretly be Zain playing and sandbagging while Charlie was just faking the whole time, good shit from Charlie
I just finished my college semester. I had to delete slippi and dolphin from my laptop as I was falling behind. I got an A in both my classes (I'm working full time going to school part time, computer science). Just confirmed I passed today. Time to redownload and start grinding!!!! It hurt watching melee content without being able to play.
"Speedrunning losing my sponsor challenge" lmao Nah I really love this though, when I saw Penguinz make a video about the Cody Reverse Popoff I wasn't sure how to feel at first or how it would make our scene look after watching the other shit he's covered, but he was so understanding and in the know about the whole situation. Seeing him re-streaming and sponsoring some of my favourite players during such a turbulent time in Melee financially has been awesome, never thought I'd see this. Respect.
well i used to main fox back in melee, by the time I was 13 I was up smashing everyone into the air with relative ease, literally became a subconscious reflex.
Luigi is probably the worst character you could possibly play for this contest since his slipperiness makes it so getting shined can put him off stage from center.
Would be interesting if you added in grab as well, cause one of the things I've heard people complain about with shine is that shine grab is really busted (if shine hits shield you just get a grab).
This video only convinced me that peach's downsmash is the best move in the game Like imagine if that was lloD. lloD only allowed to use down smash vs moky only allowed to use shine. It wouldn't be close. Charlie would've won several times over if he just knew how to grab the ledge
I'd rather deal with 100 shine spamming foxes than have to fight another Latency Ganondorf spamming fast fall jab. At least shine requires you to use a motion input to be applicable, that's why Captain Falcon's jab is so fucked up. You either fight a frame 1 jab Falcon or a Falcon praying that crouch cancel works so they can hold A like a Luigi that doesn't know how to contest mid-air.
The Luigi games are giving me Project M flashbacks to when I first started out. I feel like every Luigi main gets gimped a million times by Fox before learning to gimp Fox a million times. Without his wavedash he's pretty neutered tho.
can we get more charlie smash vids? i’ve been waiting to see more Moist smash, can yall imagine Kola in one of these vids? gotta love the vibes in this one❤️👌🏽
You can really tell moky is 7’4” in this video, the way cr1tikal is looking up the whole time!
I wanted to like this comment but its at 74 likes too, its a sign
It's because he's above
Yeah dude he's practically a replica Vctor Wembanyama
So cool of Moky to give smaller creators exposure on his platform!
@@vigilantiquewait who is moist
@@vigilantique thats the joke
People still getting baited by this ancient text
@@vigilantique whomegalul???
Moist is way bigger bro
charlie got that 2000's era walmart gamecube demo station setup with the screen 10ft up in the air
Underrated comment 😂
Took me back just now ty 😂
Cr1tikal lookin up at Moky like it’s the Brady Bunch intro
LOL
I hate this thanks lol
love how moky hits 9 multishines in a row in between stocks and charlie doesn't even acknowledge it, probably not knowing how hard it is. Meanwhile I'm watching and shitting my pants at the sight of it
Sometimes when its 2 multishines I just farted but when it was 9 waveshines i also shitted
I mean, moist watches melee and knows a bit about it, he literally sponsors moky. I think he is just well aware of how cracked and technical of a player moky is
Charlie’s game plan and reads really aren’t that bad, he just can’t recover lol
He's also playing someone who can only use a single move
He's good in the head he's just slow in the hands
@@andrewferguson6901 he does commentate from time to time so that makes sense
Coping hard for your cult leader.. sad.
@@zogbogbean2464is this bait or are you braindead or something
Would love to see a Melee tournament for various non-smash online influencers. They each get a pro and training time before competing in a charity. It's a proven formula and I think Melee would be sick
W idea.
I mean, that just sounds like melee pogchamps. Pogchamps is a staple now and I think melee could do a fantastic version of it. I think you have a great idea here!
@@AshROAosu 2 issues I see with that are 1. low level melee can be a bit boring to watch, and 2. the skill floor to be able to just move well can take months to learn so it may not be feasible for this kind of event.
@@evanhyde581 1.) People don't watch pogchamps for the high level chess play. They watch it to see influencers try to beat each other at it. 2.) Similar to point 1, they don't need to be competent. It's supposed to be low level by nature, that's kinda the point
@@evanhyde581 People will get better at the game faster than you give them credit for. And idk low level melee can be kinda hype. The people who win the bracket will probably be kinda decent
zain and ludwig, charlie and moky, melee content getting a boost rn
The moist esports difference
you know Ludwig has always been a melee guy, right
i was just thinking that moist had like the 2 top melee players that really care about melee content and is run by 2 huge content creators who care about smash
glad to see it all coming together
Kinda funny how Peach spamming down smash naturally counters Fox spamming down b
For real, if you had 2 players of equal skill where one could only use Fox down b and the other could only use Peach down smash I'm not sure I see a world where Fox ever wins lol
they found the perfect way to play an even game with a massive skill disparity
I suppose if you really think about the meta of it technically the Fox could try its best to bait down smashes from peach to get openings and focus on aerial shines then ground shines as a follow up once that opening happens. I think frame data wise fox has the advantage just because of that, the fox just has to play very carefully.
Seems like the average Fox Peach matchup to me
💀
Alt title: "Can Charlie win with only Peach downsmash? (yes)"
frasers editing is so clean, very cool to see him editing for moky and zain
LeMoky "Dokie" James just invented shine->shine combos and the world will never be the same. moist critical doesn't know he is the Robert Oppenheimer to moky's atomic bomb here. While you are drunk on peace 𝘉𝘦𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘔𝘰𝘬𝘦 I'm preparing for what happens 𝘈𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘋𝘰𝘬𝘦. I'll see you all in the Nuclear Wasteland, bring your sticks.
Bro thought of this on the spot after watching the vid? That's talent right there
@@nJudas I was forged in the fires of moky twitch chat
12:22 is nasty. good shit moist
this video cured my pink eye
This video cured my erectile dysfunction.
8:31 that turnip recatch low-key super nice from Charlie
He threw a stitch away like 30 seconds before it too 😂😂
8:44 I the way how moky explains “pineappled” lovingly to Charlie reminds me of how I explained it to my gf when we entered a casual doubles bracket at an anime convention
Charlie’s not bad for someone who doesn’t play Melee. If he had more time in the game he’d probably eventually complain about how his hands might hurt after playing for a while.
i loled
I love how there's moments where moky succumbs to muscle memory and drills after shining.
After the other shenanigans I fully expected it to secretly be Zain playing and sandbagging while Charlie was just faking the whole time, good shit from Charlie
2:14 poor choice of words...
8:49 was not expecting to hear the Torna battle theme. Okay Moky Sheeeeesh
For having not played since college, Charlie was surprisingly competent.
I just finished my college semester. I had to delete slippi and dolphin from my laptop as I was falling behind. I got an A in both my classes (I'm working full time going to school part time, computer science). Just confirmed I passed today. Time to redownload and start grinding!!!! It hurt watching melee content without being able to play.
Beating Moky with only my bare hands.
04:62 I love the way Moky said, "Let's get sleazy, baby!"
"Speedrunning losing my sponsor challenge" lmao
Nah I really love this though, when I saw Penguinz make a video about the Cody Reverse Popoff I wasn't sure how to feel at first or how it would make our scene look after watching the other shit he's covered, but he was so understanding and in the know about the whole situation. Seeing him re-streaming and sponsoring some of my favourite players during such a turbulent time in Melee financially has been awesome, never thought I'd see this. Respect.
Just finished, ngl Charlie's Peach was putting in work, no GigaSchwab
Why does Charlie have his display positioned like it's in a GameStop from 1995
grown man cyberbullies his boss in super smash brothers melee for the Nintendo GameCube
imagine trying to fend off the short allegations while looking up at your monitor like that the whole game
this should be called the "give myself arthritis in my hands challenge" lol
Either way, a challenge against ludwig in this format would be sick
as a fox player, failed waveshines against peaches gave me trauma to the point i started doing substitute combos to not get blended
Love this editing on this! Also great seeing the mokester on my recommended
Moky's pay was then docked 20%
I did not expect to see Charlie playing melee today but I am not disappointed lol
THE MOST ENTERTAINING SMASH I'VE SEEN ALL MONTH. including kagaribi
Very entertaining, flashing back to the KDJ scene in the opening of The Smash Bros.
Charlie was such a good sport. Not many people can beat the second-best player in the world and keep their composure.
So crazy that crit played the whole set without even looking at the screen
man fox's shine must be staler than bread that's been left out for a week
i love how im 1 minute in and moky is already talking to him about cody using z jump
the editor has goated taste in music, the music in the middle part of the video sounds like tracker music, amazing
From vvvvvvv
the fact that critical looked like a decent player with only downsmash shows the pure evil that is peach ssbm
Peach still needs to hit her edgeguards which isn't easy. And it was only because moky kept messing up his sdi
@@chullupa oh absolutely i just think it’s funny how immensely powerful peach’s tools are.
@@c0diz yeah but her tools are nothing compared to fox and falco
Lol it looked like Charlie was constantly watching Moky
well i used to main fox back in melee, by the time I was 13 I was up smashing everyone into the air with relative ease, literally became a subconscious reflex.
I'd kill to hear Charlie commentate a melee tournament live.
He didn’t flinch at 9 multishines between stocks I don’t think he could follow a tournament game let alone commentate it
@@meee_5155 Exactly
1:38 plz someone know how name is this song?
Luigi is probably the worst character you could possibly play for this contest since his slipperiness makes it so getting shined can put him off stage from center.
My hands hurt just from looking at these all these waveshines
12:21 He actually did kinda go demon mode.
Critical over here playing like Armada
some random old Michigan state dudes were *this* close to having an armada number
Luigi really was the worst character to pick for this lmaoo
What song is that at 1:40
it's moky's theme song
I too would like to know
@@sincereduck9405 it's used in some Zain videos that fraserlikelaser edited.
Fraser is a sick editor. Loving the videos
What's the song that starts playing around @5:06?
“Positive Force” from the game VVVVVV
"Ohh fox is so overpowered and cringe." TRUE. Say no more, I didn't have to watch the rest of the video. Liked and subscribed
"Zed button" lol
Would be interesting if you added in grab as well, cause one of the things I've heard people complain about with shine is that shine grab is really busted (if shine hits shield you just get a grab).
Moky still lets his emotions play for him lmao
i love how charlie picks the worst character for the challenge first
What is he looking at? Does he have a TV on the ceiling?
Charlie should adjust his monitors it ain't healthy looking up like that lol
Luigi makes so much sense
Wait, so he knows the term SDI, but can’t wavedash?
He watches melee tournaments he just doesn't play the game, knowing terminology doesn't equate to having skills 😮
moistcritikal fighting a mega man boss
Armada had an 8 stocked two really good doubles players with basically just shine before
This video only convinced me that peach's downsmash is the best move in the game
Like imagine if that was lloD. lloD only allowed to use down smash vs moky only allowed to use shine. It wouldn't be close. Charlie would've won several times over if he just knew how to grab the ledge
11:50 did charlie just 2 frame moky?
2 framing is just in Ultimate, the ledge has a smaller radius in Melee
you can only grab ledge while falling
Whats the song at 1:40?
That was actually hype as hell 😂😂😂
Honestly if Charlie wanted to dedicate more time to melee he'd be pretty good, he's got good reads he was usually just a little off with his punishes
would be fun to see a video where you try to kill with every fox move
Moky Moky MOKY
How did the shine at 6:16 miss?
A meeting of the minds
Give Charlie some time to cook and he'll have a pretty decent Peach
I'd rather deal with 100 shine spamming foxes than have to fight another Latency Ganondorf spamming fast fall jab. At least shine requires you to use a motion input to be applicable, that's why Captain Falcon's jab is so fucked up. You either fight a frame 1 jab Falcon or a Falcon praying that crouch cancel works so they can hold A like a Luigi that doesn't know how to contest mid-air.
The Luigi games are giving me Project M flashbacks to when I first started out. I feel like every Luigi main gets gimped a million times by Fox before learning to gimp Fox a million times. Without his wavedash he's pretty neutered tho.
4:24 Shield pushback causing Luigi to tumble off the ledge happens on every platform and it's so depressing to see every time.
Speaking moistly
can we get more charlie smash vids? i’ve been waiting to see more Moist smash, can yall imagine Kola in one of these vids? gotta love the vibes in this one❤️👌🏽
critikal isn’t the only thing moist right now
*I miss Charlie playing smash ultimate on stream*
What is the name of the song in intro moky always uses in his videos? Sounds like a nintendo one
Charles is a THREAT bro, not to be slept on
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
VVVVVV soundtrack goes hard
The vvvvvv tunes go so hard
Criticals muscles never moved once, doubt he's really playing
Does someone from moist edit for u and zain? Production quality is going crazy
I saw some lasers between stocks
"with only shine" *up-bs into him*. that is lose a stock territory at bare minimum. I would like to see no up b/side b at all and kritical has a gcc
fraser editing yay
Charlie and moky vs ludwig and zain would be a great doubles match haha please!!
moist taking a stock is the reason moky cant win a mojor
this is huge
[Paid Chatter] Wow *Moky! This video sure real is a good one to see! Great games and fun time with *Cr1TiKaL! Love everything of you.! [Paid Chatter]
Bruh why didn't he think of a shine counter
Jumping with z is diabolical
If box is legal I don’t see why x jump shouldn’t be
6:44 LOLLOLO