216 - Zaporizhzhia! - WW2 - October 15, 1943

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  • The Allies begin an aerial bombing campaign against the Japanese base at Rabaul. It has big success, though Allied bombing in Europe this week achieves big failure. The Allied advance in Italy is slowing down to a crawl, but in the USSR the advance across the Dnieper continues, specifically at the Zaporozhe bridgehead.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 432

  • @WorldWarTwo
    @WorldWarTwo  Рік тому +60

    Join the TimeGhost Army: www.patreon.com/join/timeghosthistory
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    Malinovsky will once again be relevant later, during the Cuban Missile Crisis to be specific. One of our favorite series we've produced is about that crisis, check it out on the TimeGhost channel: ua-cam.com/video/zEXjoBe5ZdI/v-deo.html

    • @greg_mca
      @greg_mca Рік тому +4

      Hey ho it's me again, kindly asking the team to please update the week by week episode playlist if at all possible

    • @rajeshkanungo6627
      @rajeshkanungo6627 Рік тому

      And when will you get to Stalag 13?

    • @pnutz_2
      @pnutz_2 Рік тому

      hang on, did you release an early version *and* a premiere? the one gianni and myself commented on is still unlisted and only has like 800 views

    • @th3easterbunny
      @th3easterbunny Рік тому

      @@greg_mca c

  • @harmen4436
    @harmen4436 Рік тому +485

    It’s a really sureal feeling hearing cities like Kharkiv, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson on this channel while at the same time hearing about them on the News.

    • @Inoffensive_name
      @Inoffensive_name Рік тому +71

      And in both cases, a defender righteously regaining land from an evil invader!

    • @barrymayson2492
      @barrymayson2492 Рік тому +12

      You would have thought mankind would have learnt by now!

    • @davidpnewton
      @davidpnewton Рік тому

      @@Inoffensive_name no. In the first case it's one evil regime taking land back from another evil regime.
      Ukraine now very much IS liberating people from a dreadful situation however. The geography is the same but the consequences for those "liberated" by the Soviets should never be compared to the current war. A directly equivalent situation today would be Xi's China "liberating" the citizens of Vladivostock from Putin's Russia.

    • @janhaanstra2245
      @janhaanstra2245 Рік тому +30

      History does not repeat itself, but it rhymes...

    • @harmen4436
      @harmen4436 Рік тому +1

      @@Inoffensive_name I hope You are reffering to the Ukrainians who are rightfully pushing back the Russians right?

  • @mascan7905
    @mascan7905 Рік тому +51

    11:27 Indy drops his mic down a sewer pipe but continues anyway.

  • @gunman47
    @gunman47 Рік тому +372

    I believe this was already mentioned this week on the day by day series on Instagram, but I feel this is still worth mentioning here. A footnote this week on October 9 1943 is that the *Jesselton Revolt* is launched by the Kinabalu Guerrillas against the occupying Japanese forces in Jesselton, British North Borneo (now Kota Kinabalu, Sabah as part of modern day Malaysia). The revolt which was led by Albert Kwok, was able to temporarily take Jesselton and other areas such as Tuaran and Kota Belud from the Japanese. However, it would ultimately fail due to limited arms supplies and Japanese reinforcements from Kuching to suppress the revolt, eventually resulting in the surrender and execution of Albert Kwok and several other leaders of the revolt in early 1944.

    • @Zen-sx5io
      @Zen-sx5io Рік тому +1

      It was in a community post, but thank you.

    • @rwagingsloth9528
      @rwagingsloth9528 Рік тому +6

      as someone who doesn't follow on Instagram, i appreciate anyone who shares whatever tidbits they can add. Thank you

    • @Z0mgXenu1
      @Z0mgXenu1 Рік тому +1

      @@rwagingsloth9528 they do the community posts here on yt as well. Check the community tab and you'll see it

  • @cosmedelustrac5842
    @cosmedelustrac5842 Рік тому +163

    Von Mackensen in a World War. What a familiar name in a familiar context.

    • @bearok89
      @bearok89 Рік тому +40

      The old Von Mackensen even outlived the third reich, dude went through 4 or 5 different types of german governments

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 Рік тому +55

      ​@@bearok89 yup, dude died in November of 1945. he started his career with muskets and rode on horse baxk, lived long enough to live in a world with nukes and jet fighters.

    • @lafeelabriel
      @lafeelabriel 18 днів тому

      The Von Mackensen in this case is his son though.

  • @cmakka4758
    @cmakka4758 Рік тому +42

    The USAAF's rapid reversal of doctrine regarding fighter escorts for daylight bombing raids triggered a logistical nightmare. Wing racks, pressurised drop tanks, and tank pressurisation systems suddenly need to be engineered, produced and shipped. The P-47 needs twin 150 gal tanks for Schweinfurt but they aren't available yet. The only large tank available now is the 205 gal designed only for ferrying and unsuitable for high altitude escort. Stretched to its limit with enough tanks, the P-47 could do 10 mins combat over Berlin and return with a razor thin reserve, but in contrast the P-51 could fight there for half an hour and still have more than a half hour reserve for the return trip. Drop tank shortages will continue into 1944 with the P-51s not getting theirs until March.

  • @rottingzombieboy
    @rottingzombieboy Рік тому +85

    I’ve done it! I’ve made it! I’m up to date! 4 months of catching up, nothing but this series…..well between 2 wars as well. But I’m finally here! 😭😭

    • @archstanton6102
      @archstanton6102 Рік тому +4

      Well done

    • @David-fm6go
      @David-fm6go Рік тому +9

      It took me years to catch up on the great war and only did so when it was almost over, as found it in 2016 two years in. I made sure not get behind in WW2.

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa Рік тому

      Welcome, I started back in the middle of B2W

    • @RahellOmer
      @RahellOmer Рік тому +6

      Glad you joined us. Change into PT gear, we're running Curahee in 5 minutes.

    • @AUSRashman
      @AUSRashman Рік тому +2

      @@RahellOmer 3 miles up, 3 miles down!

  • @cenccenc946
    @cenccenc946 Рік тому +32

    "this will be quick and easy", typically comes before the bloodiest battles in history. It is only slightly less notorious than "home by Christmas", that comes before some of the longest wars in history and the terrible commanders that say it.

    • @Oxtocoatl13
      @Oxtocoatl13 Рік тому +6

      Well, as long as they don't specify which Christmas, it's technically true.

  • @philiphied
    @philiphied Рік тому +84

    Hard imaging the psychological affect that 40% casualties from mines would have on your army

    • @FutureChaosTV
      @FutureChaosTV Рік тому +6

      I would be frozen in place and wouldn't be able to move one step forward.

    • @jameskuyper
      @jameskuyper Рік тому +31

      I believe that they meant that 40% of the casualties were from mine, not that 40% of the troops were casualties from mines.

    • @randompillow5146
      @randompillow5146 Рік тому +2

      Up to 40% of the casualties were from mines. They didn’t suffer 40% casualties from mines.

  • @Red_Four
    @Red_Four Рік тому +22

    One of the most important things when planning a military operation, is to never forget that the enemy also gets a vote.

  • @yosemitedam9607
    @yosemitedam9607 Рік тому +8

    I spent some time in Schweinfurt years ago with the US Army. Thebombings there permanently scarred the landscape with craters still visible. Some neighborhoods you could be standing in one or driving through one and not even know it because of the buildings sort of hiding the feature. Some old timers there that lived through it were traumatized by the experience.

  • @belbrighton6479
    @belbrighton6479 Рік тому +79

    The ball bearings campaign being explained is what makes this series so brilliant. Thank you

    • @unlvphysics
      @unlvphysics Рік тому

      Any fictional account of the 8th Air Force has the bombers targeting a ball bearing plant somewhere in it.

    • @williamearl1662
      @williamearl1662 Рік тому +1

      @@unlvphysics Twelve O'clock High, from 1949 with Gregory Peck was about a raid on a ball bearing factory.

    • @gsomers248
      @gsomers248 Рік тому +5

      Sweden and Switzerland were selling ball bearings to Germany? I had no idea, interesting stuff.

  • @gunman47
    @gunman47 Рік тому +114

    A sidenote this week on October 14 1943 is that Oberleutnant Walter Nowotny, commanding officer of Jagdgeschwader 54 (JG 54), will become the first pilot in the world to achieve 250 aerial victories. Most of these victories were flown from the Focke-Wulf Fw 190 fighter plane, while others were from the Messerschmitt Bf 109. His feat would earn him the Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds, Germany’s second highest award. However, he would eventually be killed in a crash while flying the Messerschmitt Me 262 jet fighter during combat with American fighters on November 8 1944.

    • @oasis1282
      @oasis1282 Рік тому +10

      He had a good run.

    • @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
      @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Рік тому +9

      If only the Luftwaffe had done what the RAF and USAAF did. Bring back successful pilots and have them train inexperienced ones. Impart their knowledge and experiences to new pilots instead have that experience lost when that pilot gets shot down. Like what happened to the Luftwaffe, which had a handful of incredibly high aces and the rest being cannonfodder. Better that most of your pilots are average then a few very good and the rest never makes it past their first sorties. Same with German tank crews. There's the tank aces, and there's the newbies who were so bad they often abandoned still working tanks on the battlefield.

    • @greeceuranusputin
      @greeceuranusputin Рік тому +6

      'They' would never admit he just got shot down by a better pilot and/or plane. Good riddance I say.

    • @angelonunez8555
      @angelonunez8555 Рік тому +6

      Nowotny finished with 258 claims, but airwar historians have determined that he was one of the most egregious overclaimers among the topscoring Luftwaffe pilots.
      Nowotny didn't command JG 54, but rather I/JG 54 (which at full strength comprised 40 aircraft). A full jagdgeschwader was usually commanded by either an oberst (colonel) or an oberstleutnant (lieutenant colonel), sometimes by a major. At the time, Nowotny was a hauptmann (captain). The highest rank he attained was major, in September 1944.

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa Рік тому +2

      Aw too bad he crashed

  • @caryblack5985
    @caryblack5985 Рік тому +19

    Unfortunately Indy creates some confusion. The general that Indy is talking about is Sigfrid Henrici. He pronounces it Heinrici which is the name of another and somewhat more important general Gotthard Heinrici who we will meet many times in the future.

  • @lurkingcarrier8736
    @lurkingcarrier8736 Рік тому +6

    >"Zaporizhzhia sabotage"
    >checks channel name
    >sighs in relief

  • @scotttracy9333
    @scotttracy9333 Рік тому +57

    Zaporizizhia was in the middle of a war then, just as it is now.
    Reminds me of a great quote from Crocodile Dundee, humans fighting like two fleas arguing who owns the dog they live on.

    • @PolicyofIllusion
      @PolicyofIllusion Рік тому +6

      @Putler Jugend ⚡⚡ ...Germans and Romanians?

    • @scotttracy9333
      @scotttracy9333 Рік тому

      @Putler Jugend ⚡⚡ Russia is no longer fighting N***s.

  • @bangscutter
    @bangscutter Рік тому +8

    The place of events in 1943 and 2022 today are so uncanny that it's surreal to watch a historical documentary and following current events at the same time.

  • @scotnommensen9576
    @scotnommensen9576 Рік тому +48

    Indy, I love the way you always end the episode by bringing us back to the fact that no matter what happens to either side, people are dieing. The historical story is so interesting, but we must always remember the cost. Thank you for this work.

    • @guillaumedeschamps1087
      @guillaumedeschamps1087 Рік тому +4

      Is the only way to remember history by acknowledging all the losses. I dare say: Yes.
      Thinking of those poor souls, those brave men, those courageous boys, the saints and sinners, the innocents and monsters who never came home is one of the few things that spontaneously bring tears to my eyes.
      How much brighter would the World be if they had still been there?

    • @lylecampbell9036
      @lylecampbell9036 Рік тому

      @@cwcsquared no one likes a grammar nazi

    • @JudsonMatt88
      @JudsonMatt88 Рік тому

      @@guillaumedeschamps1087 I struggle to understand how you put sinners and monsters in the same bracket and thinking how the world might be if they were still here. A much worse world I'd expect. I fully agree with Scot's comment above though.

    • @guillaumedeschamps1087
      @guillaumedeschamps1087 Рік тому

      @@JudsonMatt88 Ah, but would they have been monsters and sinners without the war? Were they born monsters? Or did the circumstances lead their worst impulses to the forefront? Would not a saner world have resulted in saner men?
      I prefer not to judge the men they could have been, that's all. Of course, historically, the men they were are entirely worthy of judgment and condemnation.
      ... Himmler deserved to hang or to rot in jail to see all of his beliefs proven wrong. And I admit I have never managed to try to imagine him as a better man.
      It is indulging in the "What ifs," I will admit.

  • @isaactomangrief9158
    @isaactomangrief9158 Рік тому +87

    Jumping in to add a quick note on Bougainville: it's fascinating. General narratives of the island hopping campaign tend to miss that one out, despite the heavy commitment of American power to the island, to the point that it has been called 'the forgotten battle'. The island is ethnically and geographically part of the chain of islands the West calls the Solomons-incidentally, because of the belief of Christian explorers that they would find the island where Solomon left Israel with his gold in the Pacific-but is today within Papua New Guinea. There was a brutal civil war there in the late 20th century and its resolution is one of the great mediation/peacebuilding successes of the post-Cold War era, some. Look it up, it's great!

    • @bens4241
      @bens4241 Рік тому

      West Papua is still under the colonial rule of indonesia. Repression and genocide of the indigenous people of papua.

    • @the_mowron
      @the_mowron Рік тому +2

      No one who went through Marine Corps basic training would ever forget Bougainville: Key word BIGOT.

    • @darvennej4495
      @darvennej4495 Рік тому +2

      Robert Leckie was there ,a Great Historian and Devout Catholic in tandem

  • @tpaktop2_1na
    @tpaktop2_1na Рік тому +26

    18:05 "This battle will be easy" Just like the phrase I am reading for all wars, "This war will be ended by Christmas" That phrase has been a common thing I have noted since the American Civil war. I guess that being human, we expect reason should be found before the madness continues in fighting. We hope for the best in life, in that conflicts can be concluded quickly. But war does not act that way.

    • @danielmocsny5066
      @danielmocsny5066 Рік тому +5

      If there were no miscalculations there would be no wars.

    • @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
      @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Рік тому +7

      Over confidence is always a killer in war. Usually in war, the further you advance the further you get from your supply bases, your logistical system will be taxed to the limit and there will come a point where you can no longer maintain the advance with the same number of troops, causing you to lose momentum. Conversely your enemy will get ever closer to their supply bases, allowing to get better access to supplies and reinforcements. Until a tipping point is reached and disaster befalls the advancing troops. The Soviets learned this the hard way at Kharkov 1943, which was why their advancing tank corps commanders realized they were running out of momentum they used their last impetus to secure a bridgehead over the nearest river and dig in, before the German counterattack happened. Awaiting reinforcements and supplies to catch on. The Allies would learn this the hard way at Arnhem.

    • @ewok40k
      @ewok40k Рік тому +6

      @@danielmocsny5066 losing side always miscalculates " the risk was calculated, but boy, I do suck at math!" , and the winning side often miscalculates too, having to pay much higher price for victory than expected...

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 Рік тому

      They never said which Christmas.

  • @padraigmuldoon4266
    @padraigmuldoon4266 Рік тому +15

    39 - 41 Axis success
    42 - tide turns
    43 - 45 Allied success (Ultimate victory)

  • @MrXenon1994
    @MrXenon1994 Рік тому +23

    October 15, 1943.
    Corporal John Evans of the 7th Armoured Division is shot in the leg by a German sniper as he attempts his own crossing of the Volturno river tonight. From the beaches of Dunkirk to the sand dunes of North Africa, John has been incredibly fortunate to have not been wounded up to this point. This will be the last action he sees for months and he will spend the foreseeable future recovering as the Desert Rats will eventually be pulled off the line and sent back to the United Kingdom.

  • @alexamerling79
    @alexamerling79 Рік тому +18

    A lot of counting eggs before they hatch in this war. I still remember when Hitler said all he had to do was kick in the door and the whole rotten structure would come crashing down.

    • @Ronald98
      @Ronald98 Рік тому +4

      It indeed crashed down but the rotten structure wasn't the Soviet Union...it was his ego.

    • @alexamerling79
      @alexamerling79 Рік тому +1

      @@Ronald98 and the Reich

    • @Ronald98
      @Ronald98 Рік тому +2

      @@alexamerling79 And the German people with him.

    • @derrickthewhite1
      @derrickthewhite1 Рік тому

      Crashing down... right on top of him and half of Europe. He brought a lot of things down. The French Army (which was probably rotten). The geopolitical balance of central europe (which was never stable in the first place). Large chunks of the Red army (which had some major problems, especially in the early war). But all that just made what remained madder and more determined to make the unrotten parts work and win.

  • @rottingzombieboy
    @rottingzombieboy Рік тому +8

    I also really hope Indy mentions the change of mindset for escort pilots.
    It use to be they would chase the enemy pilots away from the bombers, but the next wave would absolutely shred the bombers. Eventually, they changed tactics, stressing pilots to stay with bombers no matter what, and led to a huge drop in bombers lost

    • @danielmocsny5066
      @danielmocsny5066 Рік тому +6

      We're not quite to the point in the timeline where General Doolittle introduces his innovative fighter tactics that will free the escorts to roam far ahead of the bomber streams and attack the Luftwaffe fighters while they are climbing to altitude and forming up to attack the bombers. This will inflict the heavy losses on the Luftwaffe in the first half of 1944 that are a pre-condition for a successful invasion of northern France. The Luftwaffe interceptors are at their most vulnerable during their long climb to altitude - especially the heavily-armed "bomber destroyer" aircraft which have low performance compared to the Allied escort fighters. Because American heavy bombers are themselves rugged and heavily armed with 10-12 0.50 caliber Browning heavy machine guns, the Luftwaffe needs to attack them with its own cannon-armed heavy fighters. For more on this see the book:
      To Command the Sky: The Battle for Air Superiority Over Germany, 1942-1944 by Stephen L. McFarland, Wesley Phillips Newton
      University of Alabama Press | 2006 (reprint) | ISBN 10: 0817353461 | ISBN 13: 9780817353469 | Pages: 375

  • @rddrg18
    @rddrg18 Рік тому +13

    Indy the worst thing I ever had to do was write that letter to the parents, and wives.

    • @danielmocsny5066
      @danielmocsny5066 Рік тому +3

      And I imagine the worst thing they ever had to do was open and read that letter.

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 Рік тому

      I guess it's one of the worst, but at the same time most thankful things you get to do.

  • @alexamerling79
    @alexamerling79 Рік тому +27

    Also looking forward to Sparty covering the Sobibor escape.

    • @Doc_Tar
      @Doc_Tar Рік тому +4

      I've been wondering about Sobibor and figuring the Soviets must be getting close. Now I also am looking forward (with hope for once) to the next War on Humanity episode.

    • @BigScrape
      @BigScrape Рік тому

      @@Doc_Tar how close is the red army to sobibor

    • @cristianvandenbosse8989
      @cristianvandenbosse8989 Рік тому +2

      @@sanchopnancho The film escape from Sobibor on youtube is also pretty good. They portray a lot of Jews not mentioned by name or not present at all in the Russian film like Selma Wijnberg.

    • @cristianvandenbosse8989
      @cristianvandenbosse8989 Рік тому

      @@sanchopnancho No problem!

  • @rabihrac
    @rabihrac Рік тому +15

    Making this series is definitely not a piece of cake... Cheers to your great sustainable effort, Indy, Sparty, Astrid, the crew and the Time Ghost Army !

  • @Go4Corvette
    @Go4Corvette Рік тому +9

    My father was part of the B17 bombing mission of the ball bearing factory 🏭 he flew 52 missions in B17. I have my father's crew and plane photos and all his medals 🏅.

    • @caryblack5985
      @caryblack5985 Рік тому +3

      Wow he was fortunate to survive that many missions.

    • @angelonunez8555
      @angelonunez8555 Рік тому

      He must have volunteered for a 2nd tour.

    • @Go4Corvette
      @Go4Corvette Рік тому +5

      @@angelonunez8555 I asked my Dad about the 25 missions and go home after seeing a movie about B17 crews. He just said, You go home when the job is done! Two of his brothers were in the army and one Elvis was killed by friendly fire while at a meeting with General Patton.

  • @MacD1074
    @MacD1074 Рік тому +1

    Another great episode. Well done.

  • @cosmicderringer1824
    @cosmicderringer1824 Рік тому

    Happy to see you narrating Indy!

  • @Benecki
    @Benecki Рік тому +2

    Great work!

  • @Dustz92
    @Dustz92 Рік тому +22

    Movie recommendation for this week: Escape from Sobibor (1987) by Jack Gold.
    This TV movie tells the story of the mass escape from the Nazi extermination camp at Sobibor on October 14, 1943.
    It's available on youtube (see comment below for link).

    • @Dustz92
      @Dustz92 Рік тому +4

      Full movie: ua-cam.com/video/iVbGUJOJg4g/v-deo.html

    • @alexamerling79
      @alexamerling79 Рік тому +1

      Great movie

  • @lloydzufelt7514
    @lloydzufelt7514 Рік тому +8

    Another fantastic show thanks team

  • @markmierzejewski9534
    @markmierzejewski9534 Рік тому +85

    It’s a weight that can seldom be described by words. To carry your fellow brothers and sisters casket. Each person was / is just like you. I know this from their eulogy and even before that starts I already see who is seated in which row and who I have to give their sons flag to.
    I have done this so much that I can tell you that during the eulogy I can point out to which family member that memory was tied to.
    I promise you that even stone breaks under pressure.
    The only
    Variable in this is the family. Mothers most typically react the most different. Some are in a trans as if this is all a bad dream while others can’t hold composure. Others have thrown themselves on to me crying, squeezing you as if you were their child holding to you just to tell
    You something so simple as I’m sorry or I love you or just their name.
    I have spoken the “ words of comfort “ to over a 150 families in 9 months when the United States was at war with both Iraq and Afghanistan.
    My trauma is from a side of war that is seldom looked at but impacts those you love the most back home.
    I am truly thankful for all the hard work everyone does everything it’s so easily over stated but truly
    The amount of work research love and sacrifices made to bring all sides of this war to life and brought in-depth in such a manor that I am sure will inspire countless others to seek the truth and to never forget.
    Thank you all. 🫡

  • @SoloChinchilla
    @SoloChinchilla Рік тому +8

    Fantastic episode! Thanks to everybody on the team for all of the hard work.

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 Рік тому +9

    Another great episode

  • @guillaumedeschamps1087
    @guillaumedeschamps1087 Рік тому +11

    Another excellent episode!

  • @CommissiarJohn
    @CommissiarJohn Рік тому

    Not sure if it's been done before but i just noticed the subtle music in the background and wanted to say great job with it!

  • @villesaarenketo2506
    @villesaarenketo2506 Рік тому +3

    I believe one effect of the raid against ball bearing factories was that Sturmgeschütz IIIs made after this were equipped with static commander's cupolas.

  • @chestercallahan8856
    @chestercallahan8856 Рік тому +14

    Greatest channel on the tube!

  • @hannahskipper2764
    @hannahskipper2764 Рік тому +9

    Another rough, tough week of advances and retreats in 1943. Thank you, Indy and crew!

  • @marcoestebancarrionc
    @marcoestebancarrionc Рік тому +2

    Indy and the Time Ghost Army's ability to keep you on the edge of your seat even tho you know how it all ends its beyond amazing. When Indy mentions the casualties on the bombing operation on Schweinfurt I literally shuddered and wonder in panic and dread "gods below, how are we going to keep that up?!". . . and then I remembered im not enlisted in the allied armed forces in 1943.

  • @DreamingOfTheHeart
    @DreamingOfTheHeart 4 місяці тому

    The “just like Hannibal” line literally made me choke on my meal. Thank you for that.

  • @williamtomkiel8215
    @williamtomkiel8215 Рік тому +2

    "and this week comes to an end"
    how delightfully captivating for the historic and scholarly immersion of this venture . .
    knowing that we're "only" about 2 -ish years from hearing
    "and this week, the war comes to an end" . . .
    say it ain't so , Joe.

  • @callumwatterson
    @callumwatterson Рік тому +1

    Great video as always team, I also like how the comments are always filled with bonus nugget sidenotes

  • @shawnr771
    @shawnr771 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the lesson.

  • @johnjones_1501
    @johnjones_1501 Рік тому +9

    All this talk about Pieces of Cake, really makes me think you guys should do a "Piece of Cake" Bake Sale to raise money for your channel. Maybe sell cake mix kits in your store, or package them to look like ration packs.

  • @robertristinge4385
    @robertristinge4385 Рік тому +3

    Thank you.

  • @naveenraj2008eee
    @naveenraj2008eee Рік тому +6

    Hi Indy
    Another interesting week.
    Allies are winning but still long way to go.
    Thanks for another awesome episode.

  • @aegontargaryen9322
    @aegontargaryen9322 Рік тому +3

    Absolutely love Indys delivery

  • @reddeaddude2187
    @reddeaddude2187 Рік тому

    While the news he delivers is almost exclusively horrendous, seeing Indy each week makes me happy. These episodes are like comfort food for my soul. Great work team!

  • @obsidianjane4413
    @obsidianjane4413 Рік тому +11

    Indy spoils the Punic Wars...

    • @danielweiss7396
      @danielweiss7396 Рік тому

      Should have put up a spoiler warning ;)

    • @JohnJohn-pe5kr
      @JohnJohn-pe5kr Рік тому +2

      @@danielweiss7396 fact: The Third Punic war is considered longest war in history. Rome and Modern day Carthage didn't sign a treaty until 1985. 2,131 years after Carthage was destroyed.

    • @leeboy26
      @leeboy26 Рік тому +3

      **Throws his copy of Polybius' The Histories onto the fire**

  • @nickthenoodle9206
    @nickthenoodle9206 5 місяців тому

    Usual excellent episode.

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 Рік тому +1

    A wonderful introduced thanks

  •  Рік тому

    Excellent epsiode as always.
    The bit about no easy victories rings esepcially true right now

  • @agactual2
    @agactual2 Рік тому

    I want to see a behind the scenes documentary on how this channel works. I still can't fathom how all of this information is found, organized into a coherent script, filmed, and edited every week.

  • @MrSadisty
    @MrSadisty Рік тому +15

    SPOILERS
    I was looking forward to the Monte Cassino and then I looked up the date of the first assault....
    Holy Duck

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 Рік тому +2

      I was also looking forward to see some action by the Brazilian Expeditionary Force but on further checking it seems I have to wait a bit still.

  • @alansewell7810
    @alansewell7810 Рік тому +18

    Indy's comment: "Tell the mother whose son has died that the battle was a cakewalk" reminded me of an account I read of a Ukrainian mother whose oldest son was killed fighting the Germans. The younger brother wrote: "Thinking about my life I remember my mom, she came from the military office, where to her was presented a paper about the death of David (my middle brother David). Suddenly, I heard a terrible groan, cry, or howl....She took the axe above her head, which I had a chance to withdraw. Yes, at 50 she became an old, very old, woman. Very old, very old, she hunched and her face become wan and drawn in a few minutes. For every mother her son is endlessly dear. The Commander can send millions into the fire (Rzhev) or into the waters of Volga; maybe one out of a hundred will reach Stalingrad. Then he calmly say as Zhukov did, “Women give birth to new”.

  • @garcalej
    @garcalej Рік тому +5

    Not optimistic about Bougainville. That’s a lot of jungle to clear. But it’s one step closer to Rabaul, the linchpin of Japan’s southern defense. If the Allies can force the Japanese out of there, the rest of the northern New Guinea coast will soon follow, which opens the way to the eastern part of the Indonesian archipelago and eventually the Philippines.
    Better yet, it gives the Allies a convenient launch point to start taking the Mariannas, a small island chain to the north, tiny, but airfields there can put some of their larger bombers in striking range of, drumroll please…..Tokyo.

  • @kurtjk01
    @kurtjk01 Рік тому +1

    That opening Hannibal joke gut-busted me hard. Had to pause. My vote, so far, for best joke of the series.

  • @finscreenname
    @finscreenname Рік тому +4

    The B-29 was a failure. Of the 414 B-29 losses in WWII, 147 of them were to flak and Japanese fighters, 267 to engine fires.

    • @matthewmcmacken6716
      @matthewmcmacken6716 Рік тому +3

      Managed to drop 'the bomb', however.

    • @finscreenname
      @finscreenname Рік тому +3

      @@matthewmcmacken6716 We did more damage and killed more people firebombing. For all of its advances and abilities (height it could fly, defenses and what it could carry), LeMay stripped it of all its guns and such and turned it into a low level bomb dump truck. The ones that dropped the bomb were special built just for it. Then the Russians copied it down to the missing rivets and it was out of service in 5 years. For a plane that most say cost more than the development of the Bomb itself it's not a great record.

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 Рік тому +3

      That's more down to the engines isn't it? In any case the R3350 was in post war years still more preferable than the R4320.

    • @matthewmcmacken6716
      @matthewmcmacken6716 Рік тому

      @@finscreenname - Yes I do know this, but it was the deployment of the new weapon that ended the war w/ Japan.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +3

    Great video. And Indy I get what you mean about what you said about the family of the dead soldier not thinking that the battle was a piece of cake. I think a lot of dead soldier's families would not think it was a piece of cake.

    • @basura2001
      @basura2001 Рік тому +1

      There's also that unfortunate phrase 'mopping up' which ofc is just as deadly to a soldier as the fierce battle preceding it.

  • @isrisentoday
    @isrisentoday Рік тому +39

    Fantastic narration as usual by Indy. It is a pity that subscriptions to this channel have stalled significantly. I wonder if that is because of the algorithm gods of UA-cam.

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa Рік тому

      The ww2 community shrinks every year, that's a fact. For a straight doc channel with no memes its actually quite humbling

    • @isrisentoday
      @isrisentoday Рік тому +4

      @@greenkoopa Why do you think that WW2 community shrinks annually? I would presume that you mean WW2 community in general and not just this channel.

    • @WarblesOnALot
      @WarblesOnALot Рік тому

      @@isrisentoday
      G'day,
      The "World War 2 Community" is shrinking every year, because the people who lived through it are nearly all dead.
      Pretty much all the actual Veterans, they who wore a Uniform between 1936 and 1945, are now dead - even Q.E.-II..., and almost everybody who was a child at the time is 80 or over and they were in Nappies when the Pearling of the Harbour was achieved with Air Power, by Surprise (!), for Breakfast on a Sunday.
      The number of Teenagers who can tell a Fairey Battle from a Barracuda, let alone knows why both were useless..., is vanishingly small, today. As is the number who know the difference between an E-Boat and a U-Boat, or a Panzerfaust from a Panzerschrek - let alone the difference between Infantry successfully using Panzerschrek, and Infantry SUFFERING from Panzerschrek...
      The Wannabes who like to thunk that they know Shit from Biscuits or Shoepolish, about WW-2, all because they like to play Computer Games (rather than reading History Books and Memoirs, or listening to Veterans comparing recollections and experiences...) are wallowing in a very shallow pool of reflections derived from edited re-copied versions of Recieved Wisdom.
      And, now, today, the budding War-Junkies and aspirational Glory-Hounds and Medal-Collectors of our time can Doom-Scroll the Newsfeeds to find all the Violent Conflict they might ever wish to fantasise over,
      Edit,
      Sent early by mistake ( Finger Trouble on the Phone).
      But, that's the essence of it.
      The "Boer War Community" is pretty bloody tiny, too though I can recall watching men who served with Breaker Morrant, marching up the Main Street on ANZAC Day, leading the Gallipoli Veterans in about 1966.
      In the Excited Status of Norte ArmedmeriKano, they made such a Religion of worshipping their 1860-'63 Civil Waaauugh(!), in an effort to "maintain the Civil War Community" that right now some 60% of their CitiZenry are currently so convinced that they'll be participating in a Re-Run that they're Prepping and LARP-ing and Role- playing, practising Dress-Ups in Camouflage on the weekends, Cos.-Playing in readiness for the Zombie Apocalypse ("Pucker Lips !").
      They're all far too busy with getting ready to shoot their next-door neighbour, in defence of the last Can of Baked Beans or Packet of Dogfood stashed in their Basement Pantry...; to be bothered worrying about the details of Who did done do What, unto Whom, wherefore when and why, with which Weaponry..., waybackwhen, during the Great Patriotic Waaauugh(!) for Liebensraum to defend the Empire while establishing the Greater Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere (with flat straight rectilinear Boundaries !!!).
      Worrying about the Mysteries of Saint Javelin, and the Church of the Holy Stinger, versus the Creed of the NLAWS..., in 2022 - are all more interesting to the contemporary Warrior-Wannabes than the question of whether the Nebelwerfer is more tactically effective than a Stalin-Organ, at breaking up Tank Concentrations on the Steppes.
      Times change.
      And the
      Thymes -
      They be
      A'
      Changeling....!
      Such is life,
      Have a good one...
      Stay safe !
      ;-p
      Ciao !

    • @professorsolo6484
      @professorsolo6484 Рік тому

      @@isrisentoday he means in general

    • @LARPing_Services_LLC
      @LARPing_Services_LLC Рік тому

      I suspect that the all mighty algorithm began restricting war content in general since a few weeks ago. No way to know for sure of course, as my suspicion is based solely on personal anecdotes.
      I follow a lot of content creators that are covering the Russian invasion of Ukraine and I've heard almost every single one of them complain about UA-cam becoming way more heavy handed with the moderation of their usual content in these recent weeks.

  • @DMS-pq8
    @DMS-pq8 Рік тому +3

    I don't know how anyone could look at the terrain of Italy and think it would be cakewalk

    • @Spiderfisch
      @Spiderfisch Рік тому +3

      Well it comes from the same guy who thought Gallipoli would be a cakewalk

    • @Oxtocoatl13
      @Oxtocoatl13 Рік тому

      @@Spiderfisch I'm sensing a pattern here that makes me wonder how many cakes a certain prime minister has encountered.

  • @iDeathMaximuMII
    @iDeathMaximuMII 8 місяців тому

    I dunno if it would ever happen but one day I'd love to see Indy cover the Punic Wars between Carthage & Rome. His voice can make anything epic sounding or nice to listen to

  • @Idekwtph
    @Idekwtph Рік тому +6

    I’ve made it to the episode on my birthday!

  • @Flurb_Xray
    @Flurb_Xray Рік тому

    Very nice

  • @davlan1782
    @davlan1782 Рік тому

    It is so insane to go from Italy to the East Front and see the difference in fielded divisions on the two fronts. Really adds to the the scale of certain operations undertaken during the war.

  • @toddmoss1689
    @toddmoss1689 Рік тому

    I made the drive from Naples to Cassino. The central mountainous spine of Italy is impressive.

  • @johnwright291
    @johnwright291 Рік тому +3

    Optimism springs eternal Indy. Or something like that.

  • @davidwright7193
    @davidwright7193 Рік тому +6

    The 8th army are on their way to Florence? I am sure they will have a lovely time

  • @TheDJGrandPa
    @TheDJGrandPa Рік тому +5

    I'm amazed about how long the soviets have been able to keep up momentum since Kursk.

  • @Dustz92
    @Dustz92 Рік тому +12

    I'm sure those so called P-51 won't make any difference to German's air defence

    • @Dustz92
      @Dustz92 Рік тому +9

      Neither that plane with funny name B-29 to the Japanese.

    • @CrazyYurie
      @CrazyYurie Рік тому +3

      @@Dustz92 It is a really goofy-looking plane too.

    • @JohnJohn-pe5kr
      @JohnJohn-pe5kr Рік тому +2

      @@CrazyYurie I was surprised when I learned that goofy looking plane killed up to 900 thousand Japanese civilians.

    • @michaelkovacic2608
      @michaelkovacic2608 Рік тому +3

      @@CrazyYurie Really? I always found the B29 to be a very aesthetically pleasing aircraft.

    • @CrazyYurie
      @CrazyYurie Рік тому +1

      @@michaelkovacic2608 I was being silly. :P

  • @pianowhizz
    @pianowhizz Рік тому

    Are there any ‘behind the scenes’ or ‘the making of WWII in realtime’ episodes? I’m particularly interested in the technology you are using - microphones, lighting, post-production etc.

  • @friendhui4320
    @friendhui4320 Рік тому +3

    Teach us Indy.❤

  • @markherzog3435
    @markherzog3435 Рік тому +2

    Allied Forces: great album by Triumph.

  • @Asahamana
    @Asahamana Рік тому

    0.40 great delivery! Got to love such a dry joke 😄

  • @alexandrekuritza5685
    @alexandrekuritza5685 Рік тому +1

    nice speech at the end

  • @gartenstuhl2396
    @gartenstuhl2396 Рік тому +2

    This mission is a piece of cake. Only a 3 day special military operation.

  • @657449
    @657449 Рік тому +2

    The moving battle line on the map run over fathers, brothers, sons, cousins, nephews, neighbors, etc. Ponder on that .

  • @brickproduction1815
    @brickproduction1815 Рік тому

    Hey, quick question! Ball bearings are used for what? Great episode by the way 👏 👌 👍

    • @davidbrown4849
      @davidbrown4849 Рік тому +1

      Tanks, trucks, planes, anything with wheels, machinery etc.

  • @nicholasconder4703
    @nicholasconder4703 Рік тому +4

    I really like how the Americans handled the invasion of Bougainville. Stay tuned, it is quite novel.

  • @newmeadam
    @newmeadam Рік тому +4

    Was there a dip with audio it sounded like there was mid episode

  • @tams805
    @tams805 Рік тому

    Are we getting any more Indy's Tie Barns?

  • @waynegordon2628
    @waynegordon2628 Рік тому +5

    Daylight raids are aborted
    High losses can't be afforded
    Atrocious attrition
    Forces admission
    Bombers can't go unescorted!
    You need balls of steel to turn a wheel...
    What the Reich needs comes alot from the Swedes!
    Another fine episode. GO Astros!!!

  • @C_hoffmanni
    @C_hoffmanni Рік тому +1

    The map work has been insane these last few months

  • @nigeh5326
    @nigeh5326 Рік тому +5

    Love the code names for operations they are so random eg doppel kopf or double head in English 😃

    • @caryblack5985
      @caryblack5985 Рік тому +5

      It is the name of a popular German card game en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelkopf

    • @nigeh5326
      @nigeh5326 Рік тому +1

      @@caryblack5985 Danke 😊

    • @chazzerman286
      @chazzerman286 Рік тому +1

      That's kind of the point. Operation codenames shouldn't have any relation to what the operation entails.

  • @alexkudzin4980
    @alexkudzin4980 Рік тому

    Please cover the 4th armored regiment “Skorpion” of the 2nd polish armored Brigade and their involvement in the Italian campaign, especially at Montecasino, where I think my granddad received his medal of valor
    (He also had north Africa campaign medals)

  • @Canofasahi
    @Canofasahi Рік тому +3

    Eberhard von Mackensen, well, well, well....

  • @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
    @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Рік тому +3

    While it may suck to write the parents of dead soldiers that their loved ones died during an 'easy' attack, that's the price you must pay for being on the offensive. No wars are won being on the defensive. Sometimes you try what thinks is the easiest solution, hoping it will pay off. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

  • @bobmetcalfe9640
    @bobmetcalfe9640 3 місяці тому

    That's typical of these raids on factories - they go in they do a lot of damage, then they don't go back for six months. Meanwhile everything is fixed up and the factories back in production. Follow-up was definitely needed.
    Also - Germany found substitutes for ballbearings, so even if they had run out of them it wouldn't have been quite as bad as you might think.

  • @clarvebiker3175
    @clarvebiker3175 Рік тому

    It was about this time that my grandma's family was evacuated to Poland and later Germany. She turned 98 yesterday. One happy story in all this mess.

    • @clarvebiker3175
      @clarvebiker3175 Рік тому

      The news hits hard these days. Chortitza. I have never seen it but I know it's home.

  • @ivan7453
    @ivan7453 Рік тому

    Hey Indy, with the huge numbers of commissioned officers in the Time Ghost Army, where are all the enlisted persons and NCOs?

  • @philiphied
    @philiphied Рік тому +2

    They thinking they are in the home stretch and they still have Cassino awaiting them.

  • @yes_head
    @yes_head Рік тому +11

    I've been waiting to see when the Italian grind actually began. I guess this is it. The Russian front also seems to be a grind, but holy smokes -- the sheer manpower advantage the Soviets have is jaw dropping. I'm guessing the Germans didn't quite appreciate what they were up against.

    • @tommy-er6hh
      @tommy-er6hh Рік тому +1

      Man power advantage? It is not that the USSR had such a big population, it is that the communists used it effectively, more so than the Nazi empire. And that mobilization was in part due to lend lease, which by 1943 was in full swing. Western food, fuel, weapons, com gear and transport trucks were multiplying how effective the USSR mobilization was.
      Remember - the Nazis had captured the bread basket of the Ukraine, mineral mines and destroyed some USSR oil fields. Lend lease covered those, so USSR could put its effort into fighting.

    • @kevinbyrne4538
      @kevinbyrne4538 Рік тому

      The Soviets were only Untermenschen, and the USSR's army had been so weakened by Stalin's purges that one needed only to kick in the door of the USSR and the whole rotten structure would collapse, right?

  • @alexandrekuritza5685
    @alexandrekuritza5685 Рік тому +1

    I am such a pro at missing the premiere Sadge

  • @casparcoaster1936
    @casparcoaster1936 Рік тому +1

    extraordinary topo map of the islands, somehow added depth to my understanding (maybe joking but not entirely) many thanks!! And do continue to love the maps of the Ukraine... 80 years ago...

  • @rashkavar
    @rashkavar Рік тому

    Interesting that the Koven's strategy at Mishurin Rog was hinging on an understanding of which armies various German units were attached to. I've asked before how much other sides would have known at the time about the armies organizational structures and about their leadership, and here I get an answer of sorts: clearly enough to know how to strike at the point where two German armies met.

  • @overvieweffect9034
    @overvieweffect9034 Рік тому

    it's great that in addition to wah, that you also remind us here that for every movement, every battle here, people are dying and being wounded. not just the young men soldiers, but civilians too

  • @henoch8173
    @henoch8173 Рік тому

    Can you do a what if? Alternative History