I would trim the preload sleeves a bit more. I hear it topping out easily on your rebound compression test. You want to try to have it halfway on the stroke when your on it loaded with gear.
Great video what weight spring did you go with on the front forks? I’m 190 and looking at either the 75,80, or 95 because I ride hard and it’s more for stunt bike riding and drifting
I went with the .90 kg/mm springs and love them. Still plenty of cushion when cruising but they don’t feel spongy at all. I’m about 160 so you could probably go the 95’s
@@goodolboysgarage I appreciate the response back, do you ride where it’s really hot? I see you used sae 20 or did you use a heavy weight because you wanted more stiffness? Also that bike weighs a good bit more than mine. So I think my weight difference will work with the 90s or 95 nicely. I’m leaning towards the 95’s now based off what you told me, thanks brother
@@jaredkish992 I’m in Alberta so it gets around 90F but I chose the heavier weight for the stiffness. Yeah with what you’re planning on doing I’d probably go with that weight too. Enjoy!
Supposed to cut the spacer tubes to have no preload then use the preload adjusters for the preload. Over preloading the the spring defeats the purpose of having custom springs. Could have just saved the money and cut a 4" spacer and preloaded progressives
Lol fun random thing I’ve noticed about us “mc guys” we always get a bad rap… but we damn near all that have a ole lady that’s locked us down more than any locktite strength 😂
What are you running as your rear height bro? I’m running 14” because my riding style. But I love how much your front stiffened up. What did you cut your tube lengths to as well? Sorry for so many questions.. just no one answers about race tech and talk about how great they are lol
You can’t beat the RaceTech gold valve emulators with their spring kit.(if it’s set up right) night & day difference on my FXR with PJ-1, 10 weight fork oil. Those preload adjusters don’t do anything with their maybe 1” adjustability if you are lucky.
@@goodolboysgarage get the Ricor intiminator valves. Easier install than the race tech valves and function the same. I put the valves in with stock springs and the difference was HUGE! Really showed how garbage the OEM setup is. Smoother ride overall and way more dampening. But also shows how mushy the stock springs are since the more dampening power slow how fast brake dive happens and really soak up big bumper better. I’ve now got a set of Race tech springs to install tho.
@@chevyon37s I owned both the Ricor Intiminators and Race Tech springs and valves. They do not work the same or perform the same. The Ricors do reduce break dive a lot, and thats about it. The RT setup is far superior in every way. Reduced break dive, proper rated springs providing a more compliant predictable ride, a very noticeable increased lean angle in the twisties, fully adjustable from a plush ride to firm sport ride...
I'm a bit confused was the first compression demo as stock? , you mentioned you installed the Progressives springs.. but you didn't show sag or compression test for them, and i didnt see or hear any disccussion about the Burly preload adjusters.. I also didnt hear what your impression was for what ever you ended up with. But a tip would be when removing the fork caps, tape the heads with masking tape to prevent marring, and keep a steady down force on the caps esp as you get near the end of the threads, because the fork springs can damage your last one or two lines of thread with the upward force.
My bad, amateur UA-camr here haha. First “test” was with the progressive springs I installed and still wasn’t happy with how much they sagged and rode. Although much better than stock they almost felt like clapped out shocks on a vehicle how it continues to bounce after hitting dips in the road. The racetech heavy duty springs along with the preload adjusters gave my bike a much firmer/responsive ride. I ride decently aggressive so I wanted something a little less sluggish. Good tip too! The preload adjusters also came with a plastic cap to put over them to remove them to prevent any damage. Thanks for the feedback! Definitely going to do things differently for future videos.
Well I'm surprised, did you have the correct pre-load (PVC spacers) set on your Progressive springs? and/or did you try longer spacers? I just installed a set on my Road Star, and even shorted the preload recommended spacer length by a 1/4" and they are tight.. Rider sag and fork dive when pushing the bike is minimal, about 75% less ( much less than even you Race Tech spring demo) But is still hadn't heard your review or impression of the Burley Preload adjusters,, lets us know about them. A couple other tips are to keep tight downward pressure on those caps as you are unthreading or even threading them down.. and when you have those tubes off the bike, always check them for any bends (lay them on a super flat surface, and row them around to observe any possible bends, esp the type of riding you tend to do..
@@ut1004bp yeah I just used they sent with the springs. The preload adjusters are nice. It’s hard to tell without having tried them on the progressives vs the racetechs but it’s nice to have that control. Plus was easier to install than having even longer pvc spacers.
@@goodolboysgarage Yea, one would want to back out the Burley's all the way so you wouldn't have any unnecessary pre-load while you try to push down and thread in that Burly Preload adjuster. Anyway, it doesn't seem they make one for the 2021 49mm touring bikes
I would trim the preload sleeves a bit more. I hear it topping out easily on your rebound compression test. You want to try to have it halfway on the stroke when your on it loaded with gear.
Great video what weight spring did you go with on the front forks? I’m 190 and looking at either the 75,80, or 95 because I ride hard and it’s more for stunt bike riding and drifting
I went with the .90 kg/mm springs and love them. Still plenty of cushion when cruising but they don’t feel spongy at all. I’m about 160 so you could probably go the 95’s
@@goodolboysgarage I appreciate the response back, do you ride where it’s really hot? I see you used sae 20 or did you use a heavy weight because you wanted more stiffness? Also that bike weighs a good bit more than mine. So I think my weight difference will work with the 90s or 95 nicely. I’m leaning towards the 95’s now based off what you told me, thanks brother
@@jaredkish992 I’m in Alberta so it gets around 90F but I chose the heavier weight for the stiffness. Yeah with what you’re planning on doing I’d probably go with that weight too. Enjoy!
@@goodolboysgarage did you use any special fork seal rebuild kit or will James fork seal do the trick for this application?
@@jaredkish992 I think I just used the stock Harley seals. I’m sure those would work too. Maybe look into what the stunt guys are riding.
Supposed to cut the spacer tubes to have no preload then use the preload adjusters for the preload. Over preloading the the spring defeats the purpose of having custom springs. Could have just saved the money and cut a 4" spacer and preloaded progressives
Lol fun random thing I’ve noticed about us “mc guys” we always get a bad rap… but we damn near all that have a ole lady that’s locked us down more than any locktite strength 😂
Whats the size of your pvc spacer ?? The lenght and the tube size ?
I just cut the spacer tube they sent in half. These are stock length 39mm tubes
What are you running as your rear height bro? I’m running 14” because my riding style. But I love how much your front stiffened up. What did you cut your tube lengths to as well? Sorry for so many questions.. just no one answers about race tech and talk about how great they are lol
I can’t remember the size I cut them down to but I’m pretty sure I just cut the piece right in half that they sent.
You can’t beat the RaceTech gold valve emulators with their spring kit.(if it’s set up right) night & day difference on my FXR with PJ-1, 10 weight fork oil. Those preload adjusters don’t do anything with their maybe 1” adjustability if you are lucky.
I did think about doing the emulators but didn’t quite fit in my budget. Maybe in the future though! I’m pretty happy with the current setup
@@goodolboysgarage get the Ricor intiminator valves. Easier install than the race tech valves and function the same. I put the valves in with stock springs and the difference was HUGE! Really showed how garbage the OEM setup is. Smoother ride overall and way more dampening. But also shows how mushy the stock springs are since the more dampening power slow how fast brake dive happens and really soak up big bumper better. I’ve now got a set of Race tech springs to install tho.
@@chevyon37s good info to know! Yeah basically anything is better than stock haha
@@chevyon37s I owned both the Ricor Intiminators and Race Tech springs and valves. They do not work the same or perform the same. The Ricors do reduce break dive a lot, and thats about it. The RT setup is far superior in every way. Reduced break dive, proper rated springs providing a more compliant predictable ride, a very noticeable increased lean angle in the twisties, fully adjustable from a plush ride to firm sport ride...
I'm a bit confused was the first compression demo as stock? , you mentioned you installed the Progressives springs.. but you didn't show sag or compression test for them, and i didnt see or hear any disccussion about the Burly preload adjusters.. I also didnt hear what your impression was for what ever you ended up with. But a tip would be when removing the fork caps, tape the heads with masking tape to prevent marring, and keep a steady down force on the caps esp as you get near the end of the threads, because the fork springs can damage your last one or two lines of thread with the upward force.
My bad, amateur UA-camr here haha. First “test” was with the progressive springs I installed and still wasn’t happy with how much they sagged and rode. Although much better than stock they almost felt like clapped out shocks on a vehicle how it continues to bounce after hitting dips in the road. The racetech heavy duty springs along with the preload adjusters gave my bike a much firmer/responsive ride. I ride decently aggressive so I wanted something a little less sluggish. Good tip too! The preload adjusters also came with a plastic cap to put over them to remove them to prevent any damage. Thanks for the feedback! Definitely going to do things differently for future videos.
Well I'm surprised, did you have the correct pre-load (PVC spacers) set on your Progressive springs? and/or did you try longer spacers? I just installed a set on my Road Star, and even shorted the preload recommended spacer length by a 1/4" and they are tight.. Rider sag and fork dive when pushing the bike is minimal, about 75% less ( much less than even you Race Tech spring demo) But is still hadn't heard your review or impression of the Burley Preload adjusters,, lets us know about them.
A couple other tips are to keep tight downward pressure on those caps as you are unthreading or even threading them down.. and when you have those tubes off the bike, always check them for any bends (lay them on a super flat surface, and row them around to observe any possible bends, esp the type of riding you tend to do..
@@ut1004bp yeah I just used they sent with the springs. The preload adjusters are nice. It’s hard to tell without having tried them on the progressives vs the racetechs but it’s nice to have that control. Plus was easier to install than having even longer pvc spacers.
@@goodolboysgarage Yea, one would want to back out the Burley's all the way so you wouldn't have any unnecessary pre-load while you try to push down and thread in that Burly Preload adjuster. Anyway, it doesn't seem they make one for the 2021 49mm touring bikes
@@goodolboysgarage you were clear about that lol solid video thanks dude!
In my experience, Progressive suspension is straight trash. Worse ride and performance than stock.
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