Eye opening and very frustrating. As a librarian and history buff destroying files makes my blood boil. Andrew has a strong character to go through what he has without being totally bitter. Looking forward to part 2 Shauna.
All this material was paid for by public funds and should be available to historians and interested parties. Disgraceful to hide it. Kudos to Andrew Lownie for persistence and attempting to do the right thing. More archivists should be supporting him. Fascinating history and should be released,
I've been following Andrew's difficulties getting to the truth for a few years with great interest - even making a couple of modest contributions to his Go-Fund-Me. I am so disappointed by the evident suppression of the truth. Who on earth does anyone think they are protecting? I feel tremendously for him and see that you are, brilliant as always, an astute and well informed interviewer. Andrew Lownie's books are very well researched and written and the attempts at suppressing his request for the truth dismaying -- to say the least. Well done Shauna. I look forward to part 2 -- The Mountbattens is quite the read.
I’ve come to the realisation that we all live in a banana republic when it comes to information elites don’t want the plebs to know as this is one of the ways to keep their power. What makes the world go round? Money, power and control. ❤️from Australia 🇦🇺.
Oh wow! I know Andrew's story but he has brought out more detail of how he has been treated, in this interview. I can't help but wonder from where the original order to 'bury' the Mountbatten's archives came from. Sunday night will be a ring side seat for me! Cheers Shauna and Andrew.
If he is digging up scandals about Mountbatten, hell will freeze over before that happens. I reckon KC3 has a lot of knowledge because his Uncle Dickie was his mentor and they spent a great deal of time together.
@@Claire11elliott Perhaps that's why it is so well hidden ; KC might have been whispering to various people that it would be unwise to look into it because of so much dirt on Mountbatten ?
Isn’t it pretty well known that “Uncle Dickie” was a poor Admiral costing many lives. We’ve also had that with American Generals. The war was won, and maybe that’s all the governments would like us to know. Perhaps this stash of letters and documents would have provided the evidence of that leadership.
A reaĺy interesting conversation thank you Shauna and Andrew. There are so many skeletons buried deeply especially those of famous persons, particularly those associated with the Royal family.
I am simply appalled. Totally draconian. This poor man has a target on his back. History is soooo very important. Fancy the archives not being indexed!! Royal archives sound a nightmare. It's extremely scarey that hustorians are not used to archive important material. 😮😮😮. Incredibly interesting and terrifying at the same time...
What a riveting interview. Thank you so much for this and I can’t wait for part 2. How are you able to land these interviews?? They’re amazing and high quality, network worthy AT LEAST the way it used to be back in the day. No wonder the cut and paste, paid for msm are gunning for UA-camrs. Bravo, Shauna!
The same FOI challenges exist in the US at various levels of government, even local. One only becomes aware when there’s pushback to requests for information.
Fabulous interview!! Please have him back again soon!! As an avid reader and historian myself, I am horrified by Andrew's story. It's incredible to think archivial materials are treated so poorly in --of all places--:the UK!!.. It's appalling!!.,
Fabulous interview! Hats off! Andrew Lownie has so much incredible information to share, I could listen for hours. My compliments to Shauna, too, for asking such well thought out questions. Greetings from a 🇬🇧 tuning in from Germany. x
Wow! That is some insane stuff. I feel awful Andrew and what he's gone through. Obviously, someone doesn't want the truth out there. It's extremely disturbing. Can't wait for part 2. Great interview Shauna
Just ordered Andrew’s books The Mountbattens and The Traitor King. Thankfully they were both on Audible. Andrew’s tenacity is to be admired. You have to wonder what else they’ve keeping secret and who makes those decisions. The Butler??
This was such an interesting video. Thanks so much, Mr. Lownie is such an wonderful writer. I've really enjoyed reading The Traidor King and The Mounbattens. Thanks Shauna for another wonderful interview.❤
Tha k you Shauna, excellent, interesting interview w/Andrew Lowrie. It uncovers so many important aspects of FOi and how history can be "sanitised". As tax payers, we dont care about this enough.
Shauna you're a great interviewer!! ❤ It was upsetting hear that Mr Lownie didn't get any support in his fight to have fair access to historical material....vile that no one has his back and some briefed against him like the newspapers. Great interview though, very interesting stuff in this interview ❤
This interview is fascinating. Another UA-camr who I listen to, has also reviewed, Traitor King, and The Mountbatten's. It's good to get different perspectives on the same material. They were both fascinating, the thing I didn't know. So hopefully, UA-camrs reviewing these books, to a new audience, will do a service to what the Author has gone through.
Lawyers really are unconscionable. I have limited experience but it's all about the $$ They appear to have no morals, no scruples, motivated only by influencing judges and winning cases.
Whilst listening, it came to me that this 'history' is too soon to be released. I have long thought that a person's life should not be dissected until at least three generations have passed because of the distress it may cause. To people of my generation (immediately post war), Mountbatten and his influence within the royal family was all too real. You have King Charles still alive who venerated him as a mentor when he was young, along with his siblings who would have known 'Uncle Dickie'. Too son to go 'digging'. Let sleeping dogs lie for a while, but bring it into the open in its historical context eventually.
I would have agreed with you sometime ago, but as we are living longer. My mother passed away 19 years ago but I won’t be able to find the record where she was evacuated to until 2035. I may not be here to see that. Charles knows what material is out there regarding all his family as much of it is in royal archives. The royals may not behave as badly as their ancestors. Charles in his role as king brings him into contact with people such as Blair, Gates Schwab and many who the public think should have no influence over our country. I too am post war generation and am now learning how my ancestors died in ww1. All my life that had an effect on my grandmother and we were unaware.
Haven't received notification of your You Tube screenings for months! Are you being censored indirectw.? Your show is balance and not controversial in any way.
Dear Shauna, kindly give or let the guest give a full story behind the topic you are discussing, many a times we are not so well versed in everything. (My curiosity piqued at the mention of Edwina and Nehru🫢) I will do a little research of my own, but don’t you think you are doing the interview for your audience as well, and not just for yourself. You may have researched well about the guest’s story of coming across all the papers he came across, but we may not.
When you hear someone as intelligent, sensible and knowledgeable as Andrew describe all this it’s really quite chilling and you wonder exactly what else has been censored, manipulated and hidden from us. Terrific interview, I really had no idea just how difficult it had gotten for him.
I am an amateur historian and I can confirm how many historians are either jealous guys or cowards due to their fear being "blocked" or sanctioned by the authorities. So, I am full of respect for Andrew and I wish him all the best. Thank you, Shauna, it is a great interview. Greetings from Austria.
How heartbreaking for Andrew. This was an interview and a half. Good one Shauna and yes do have this man back. So much knowledge and so interesting. It is wicked to think so much history has been lost. Lies and scandles abound. ❤
@@thevintageread Now I'm even more thrilled! Bring it on! THANK YOU, Amazing Shauna! And thank you, Andrew, you are a brave man indeed! I need to make time to read his Mountbatten book ASAP...
Absolutely fascinating insight into British bureaucracy, Shauna and Andrew. I so admire Andrew for pushing on with his case despite the many roadblocks placed in his way and the less than satisfactory outcome for both himself and British justice.
Unfortunately, even the Bible has been fiddled with. I had to study the original Aramaic and Hebrew used as Greek translators didn't always have the *exact* word so some put in what 'they thought' was the closest to the original, but this caused passages to read entirely different from what was originally written. One example is the exile of Noah's son for "uncovering his father's nakedness" which makes it seem as if he was exiled only because he saw his (drunken) father unclothed. The original text relates an entirely different scenario, for which exile is totally reasonable given the circumstances. Another example is the changing of wine skins to bottles (Luke 5:37-38. Putting fresh wine that needs to ferment into an old wineskin will cause it to burst due to its brittleness. Substituting bottle here makes zero sense...but small changes have occurred over time. I have witnessed this myself. This is not to say that the Bible shouldn't be read. It should, but in order to truly understand it, one must study it.
@@booperpotpie9634Hebrew is notoriously difficult to translate, even modern day Hebrew, it's almost a language unto itself. You have to almost live the language and feel it, if that makes sense. Well done you for studying the originals.
Thank you, Shauna. You have raised the bar and set a high standard for interviewing, which is so refreshing. I found it all very interesting tonight and look forward to the next one on Sunday.
Very interesting. No offense, but this stinks to the high heavens. By the way, if this man is vexatious, what do they call Prince Harry s legal actions.
What a great interview! I love Andrew Lownie and have so much more respect for him after listening today. I knew of his struggles with bureaucracy but had no idea the financial toll it has been for him. So sad with all he has been through that he doesn't have more backing from outsiders...he is a literary hero in my book! I can't wait for you to have him on again and continue his amazing story....Thank you Shauna!♥️
Very interesting conversation!! I read Traitor King and learned quite bit. This man is invaluable in seeing history verified and recorded both today and tomorrow. Can’t wait to see him back!!!
This man's struggles with the archives are amazing and are very common. Open records are a constant battle and too many people do not fight for them tooth and tong like they should. I have been in a struggle like that in my town years ago. We never got all we wanted, but our objectives were ultimately achieved. Wow! The UK is in the same moribund condition as the USA. Honor and commitment to good governance are essentially gone. Democracies are failing because too many citizens are lazy and only vote for personally beneficial candidates who buy them off with taxpayer funds whether the nation can afford it or not. Also allowing unions for government workers. That has resulted in mediocrity and waste because the workers can't be fired.
So looking forward to part 2, I am appalled at the treatment of Andrew. Just goes to show all government is crooked and the rights of the people means nothing. It’s shameful and scary for all of us.
As an older woman who is sorting through the 'stuff' of her life, I am destroying lots of letters, etc. Not being royal, and only a descendant of family from Britain and other countries in the British Isles, my 'stuff' is stuff. Honestly, if people (my family) thought they had the right to know what I wrote, I wouldn't write anything at all. Personal correspondence is just that, personal. I doubt if the royal family, being human, really wants all their wash hung out there, and I don't blame them at all. I imagine that rulers of all kinds have been destroying their memories since cuneiform, and perhaps even paintings on cave walls. I do agree that public records are public records and should be respected and preserved, for better or for worse. But private correspondence is private - IMHO. Or should we all be like Prince Harry? Shudder.
In this case the Mountbatten family openly sold the personal letters and diaries to pay for the roof. The fundraising was done on the basis they would be open to the public.
@@andrewlownie2033 That's so interesting...sounds like the Mountbatten family never considered an author of your caliber showing any interest in those personal letters and diaries. Wow!
We need the truth about lots of things pertaining to Harry. Not least his alleged history of physical abuse of females of a certain type during sexual encounters. His behaviours as a child and teenager. His time in Afghanistan what is the truth about that? His two invisible children and their very questionable births. His marital status at the present time and whether he is living alone since almost two years. None of these would interest us or be called into question if he lived a quiet life of dignity and obscurity but he keeps thrusting himself into the public eye, often spouting spiteful lies about his family and demands he be addressed as Prince, Duke and his children (??) in America be given British Royal titles!!! 😩😤🙄
Great interview Shauna Thankyou Andrew Lounie was such an interesting and knowledgeable man. Its so unfair and truly wrong that he had to even have this legal fight. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
OUTRAGEOUS! 😮 I absolutely admire your persistence and tenacity Andrew. I'm horrified but not shocked about your treatment as we see this seems to becoming the new norm.😢 SHAUNA - please consider getting blackbeltbarrister on your show TOGETHER with Andrew. It would be very helpful to Andrew and the viewers to talk about this. If BLACKBELT BARRISTER doesn't have time then his Barrister friend Alan Robertshaw - Art of Law - may be willing to come to a round table discussion....actually I bet Alan would be very willing to be a guest♡ So sorry Andrew! You absolutely do not deserve to be messed around on such a ridiculous scale😢 Much love and respect to you both ♡❤ X
@@andrewlownie2033 Dear Andrew - suggest to Shauna a round table with a barrister, such as the two I mentioned above, or if Shauna is fully booked then SCANDAL MONGERS could do a debate about these shenanigans 😢 It's unbelievable - and worth bringing to light your multiple struggles on a larger forum. Chin up Andrew! I'm sure your book sales will surge - you are a lovely person so fans will support you! ❤ X
I'm not sure I understand how anyone could possibly have purchased the Broadlands Archive without already knowing that it would contain references to the RF, given their relationship with Lord Mountbatten....?
Truly brilliant, insightful and most disturbing. I have read some of Mr Lounies books and am a huge fan and remain in awe of his perseverance, saddened by the losses he has incurred and can only hope he manages to plough ahead through the quagmire of deceit and destruction in search of the truth. I am not too surprised to hear history has been 'modified ' but i am so shocked as to how much past and present interference is continuing to protect public figures.
Well done Andrew on persistence and courage to unveil the truth contained in historical archives! This is the era of enlightenment ,to uncover secrets and promote awareness. I will be buying the book on the Mountbattens after the excellent interview with Shauna😊
Fascinating and well done Shauna for allowing Andrew to explain it. You are a natural born interviewer. Infact, a lot of you tubers are interviewing recently and they are all far better than any proffesional. Cant wait for your next chat with Andrew.
Watching while waiting for my grandson coming out of school-given myself an hour where I’m not going to be distracted or bothered Crack on you two- make my day😂😂😂
Andrew received no procedural fairness & whilst his solicitors ostensibly breached no Practice Rules, they definitely breached their ethical & moral duty towards their client, Andrew. If it wasn't for the dismal fact that this whole case was before a 'kangaroo court', I would bring an action against the solicitors for breach of duty of care (as per equitable principles of law). Because the solicitors acted unconscionsbly in allowing their client to proceed to incur costs in a legal action they could have predicted with reasonable certainty would ultimately fail!! If the case wasn't inflammatory- going against the establishment- I'm certain another law firm would take on t appeal (to try recover costs) on a pro bono basis. *** such a shame & real evidence of censorship ***
@@Lemon_N555 The problem was having started with one law firm I couldn't swop horses half way. They gave me charity rates but still over £300 an hour and my opponents deliberately pushed up my costs with their tactics including deploying a mysterious Ministerial Direction that was then dropped. We had always stressed we were looking for our costs given their 'unreasonable behaviour' but even a High Court action for contempt against Southampton by ICO - first time in history - doesn't seem to have counted. I mistakenly thought that without seeing it through then I wouldn't be awarded costs . I also felt a responsibility to see the action through to ensure he material was made public. I did look into a complaint but short of stealing clients money the Solicitor Regulation Authority will do nothing. I had hoped the original lawyers would do an appeal pro bono but the solicitor said his partners wouldn't allow it and the barrister she couldn't afford it. By then I had been completely cleaned out and had to give up.
@@andrewlownie2033 The injustice you suffered makes me even more determined to support you in purchasing more of your books, Mr. Lownie. Keep up the good fight!
The RF is not above the law. But then, they are. Andrew, Harry, Mountbatten, Edward, all doing nefarious deeds in the dark. This does not bode well for their continued existence. I admire Andrew Lownie for his lone battle and his tenacity in the face of obstruction. I’m enjoying reading about Dickie atm. He is a wonderful historian.
Andrew Lownie should be celebrated! He's sacrificed so much to get the truth out. Most of us are so tired of being gaslighted. We know some Royals (if not most) don't have squeaky clean pasts.
I found this interview conflicting. I understand the Public interest however even mentioning Wallace Simpson having affairs seems very personal to me and should be no one else’s business. This is just one of many examples of when Historians cross the line. Much of what they reveal is gossip and innuendo that could affect ancestors living today. A lot of information can’t be verified so easily as it can be today with the advent of social media. Andrew eludes to that when talking, mentioning “stories at the time” in other words gossip. It’s a very fine line writing about deceased people who can have no redress. To say people destroy some of their correspondence or private letters inferring they are hiding something can be as simple as their desire to keep their very personal feelings and private life, private, as most of us do. It’s not sinister it’s just for privacy. I do understand,as with the Duke of Windsor it was in the Public interest to tell the story of the abdication and his public life after however what happened privately in his marriage is really of no consequence to the public.
I am not sure what you mean by crossing the line. The point is the Mountbatten material was freely sold for £ millions to be open. Taxpayers money was used so the collection cold be studied. If you read my book you will see that Mountbatten wanted a warts and all biography.
@@andrewlownie2033 I understand that. I was talking more generally. I just think sometimes Historians write about extremely private details of someone’s life based on “stories at the time”. Many stories are written in the Public interest however is it in the public interest to delve into extremely personal,intimate details including private letters. As I said I am conflicted. I enjoy reading the books however sometimes the personal details and letters feels very intrusive
@@Catlover2091 I agree. Everything I read now by ''historians'' "shows" that ''all'' their subjects were spies, gay, bisexual and everyone had affairs.
Shauna, ❤️ your interview…BRAVO!!! You had the most interesting podcast to date, ( in my opinion). I absolutely adore Andrew, especially his & Phil’s ‘The Scandal Mongers Podcast’. I’ve been following him since I first stumbled onto ‘The Steve Bartlett Podcast.’ There is an absolute sweet, kind & extremely polite nature in his demeanor…and I’m also amused that 99% of the time he wears blue😀😀. What a wardrobe🫣😀. Keep up the fantastic work both of you.
I like the Monarchy but have known they make use of ways and means to protect their reputation/ members and to manipulate to improve their PR. Like with Charles and rehabilitating Camilla’s image years ago- to lead to her being accepted in marriage and as Queen. I prefer this kind of democracy over a republic, having a front row seat in Canada to all the carrying on in the United States. This fine fellow has tried so hard and it’s cost him a lot, but he has my complete respect and gratefulness for trying to get to the truth of what we are entitled to see. I am very sorry he has not had more support especially from other professionals. And I wish he had a benefactor. Maybe not enough people know what he has been trying to achieve. I didn’t. Let’s hope some wealthy person finds it important as well. Maybe we need to create a go-fund-me and all of us give just a few dollars and it can add up to help Andrew. He shouldn’t have to bear the cost of this alone.
Oh gosh Shauna. Loved this interview. Please do more like this. Absolutely fascinating. But now my brain is doing cartwheels regarding everything I ever thought of the Royal Family🥹
Andrew was obviously being deterred from fighting for access. It stinks. I really feel for him. I'll be buying his book and I hope he makes some money back.
This was such a great interview. I caught a bit of an interview he was doing a few months back but nowhere near the coverage of this. Can’t believe he’s been treated so badly & lost so much in the process.
Agreed! Censorship is covering up the truth and there'll be no transparency whilst there is a "big brother" deciding on what's relevant or not. It used to be a strange world we're living in, now it's a scary world. He needs to set up a "Go Fund Me" to cover ongoing costs and make history known! Thank you for a brilliant, informative interview 💗
Shauna, this was a very informative interview. I’m really looking forward to hearing more from Mr. Lownie. I volunteer as an archivist at my local symphony orchestra. Although the materials I deal with are of a completely different nature, there are sensitive letters and documents in our files. I am appalled at the idea that any document would be destroyed.
I've been enjoying The Traitor King and Mr Lownie's use of sources and footnotes on every page is impressive. I had been thinking he must be an admirably pedantic researcher but I just didn't realise the battle he has been fighting to get access to documents. I do understand to a degree the sealing of information but these are quite dated files he's interested in afterall.
Great interview Shauna! Very interesting yet disturbing. I am a retired information manager and worked with Qld government and had a high opinionof Britain's National Archives and am astounded at the lack of common practices such as digitisation of records and adequate categorisation! I wonder if KCIII had any influence regarding the redaction and destruction of archives relating to his beloved Uncle Dickie?
Andrew Lownie is fascinating. Thanks for a great conversation. I'm a monarchist but since this covering up has become worse, I even wonder if it's coming directly from Charles. He has covered for other problem male mentors before. And why would he ask his son and dau-in-law to name their child after Lord M, knowing what he knows? It's as if he's deliberately defying the facts.
A lot of assumptions in your comment there. I'd love to know who the 'other problem male mentors' were. As for historical documents, I feel there should be a moratorium on private correspondence and diaries for at least 150 years after the death of the people involved. Public papers should be restricted only where there's a sensitive security issue, but private papers aren't something the public necessarily have a right to know.
No evidence that Louis is named for Mountbatten-it was already a family name in the royal family. I don’t think that a historian deserves access to sensitive documents or personal records or correspondence when others are still alive who are possibly impacted. Mountbatten’s close family members are still alive.
That is the point, these were public papers and were sold FOR public access by the family and purchased with tax payers money for that purpose. There are plenty of provisions to protect TRULY sensitive documents. The Royal family don’t have to add private documents to the archive, however allowing a Footman to determine what is public and private is ludicrous. It should be done by a trained historian.
@GinaSeay-kn7xr Bishop Peter Ball, Jimmy Saville. And the usual sensibility towards a research subject is their own lifetime, not the lives of their descendants.
Eye opening and very frustrating. As a librarian and history buff destroying files makes my blood boil. Andrew has a strong character to go through what he has without being totally bitter. Looking forward to part 2 Shauna.
Part 2 is 🔥
Shauna, you are one of the most intelligent and well-informed interviewers I have ever seen.
Thank you Rowena x
And you (Shauna) bring the most uncovered and original material! You deserve an award!
All this material was paid for by public funds and should be available to historians and interested parties. Disgraceful to hide it. Kudos to Andrew Lownie for persistence and attempting to do the right thing. More archivists should be supporting him. Fascinating history and should be released,
It is! This is just the tip of the iceberg!
@hazelholmshaw9415 The Royals are the ones censoring and destroying. KC III is apart of it
@@daisyd2392 I fear so. I have written to the King's Private Secretary about the issue. I had no reply.
What are they so afraid of? Monarchy not so worthy after all?
@@lovelearning7467Hiding something/s
I've been following Andrew's difficulties getting to the truth for a few years with great interest - even making a couple of modest contributions to his Go-Fund-Me. I am so disappointed by the evident suppression of the truth. Who on earth does anyone think they are protecting? I feel tremendously for him and see that you are, brilliant as always, an astute and well informed interviewer. Andrew Lownie's books are very well researched and written and the attempts at suppressing his request for the truth dismaying -- to say the least. Well done Shauna. I look forward to part 2 -- The Mountbattens is quite the read.
It sure is! A lot more evidence has come to light since the book was published and we discuss that!
@@thevintageread Sounds enticing, Shauna...can't wait for Part 2 of your interview!
There are royal experts & then there is Andrew Lownie. Totally gripping. I hope his papers are wonderfully archived!
Thank you. I hope royal biographers will be more honest in future.
Our book club reads and values the brilliant and precise writing of Andrew Lownie.
I’ve come to the realisation that we all live in a banana republic when it comes to information elites don’t want the plebs to know as this is one of the ways to keep their power. What makes the world go round? Money, power and control. ❤️from Australia 🇦🇺.
My 'Traitor King' book is arriving tomorrow. I am grateful for his hard work on this book and on the 'The Mountbatten'.
Oh wow! I know Andrew's story but he has brought out more detail of how he has been treated, in this interview. I can't help but wonder from where the original order to 'bury' the Mountbatten's archives came from. Sunday night will be a ring side seat for me! Cheers Shauna and Andrew.
I know where the order came from but the libel laws prevent me from saying.
@@andrewlownie2033, we all know who was particularly close to Louis Mountbatten.
Louis and Edwina Mountbatten were a dreadful pair. Just because history makes someone uncomfortable, there's no reason to hide it...
Exactly. Cover ups weaken an institution not strengthen it.
@@thevintageread Correct. As you'd know from our own Australian politics...let alone how it can condemn us to repeat history...😎
Fascinating, thank you. This man deserves a knighthood for his work.
We agree!
If he is digging up scandals about Mountbatten, hell will freeze over before that happens. I reckon KC3 has a lot of knowledge because his Uncle Dickie was his mentor and they spent a great deal of time together.
@@Claire11elliott Perhaps that's why it is so well hidden ; KC might have been whispering to various people that it would be unwise to look into it because of so much dirt on Mountbatten ?
I would be very careful going anywhere near a Royal wielding a sword.
Agree.
Lownie is fascinating.
Isn’t it pretty well known that “Uncle Dickie” was a poor Admiral costing many lives. We’ve also had that with American Generals. The war was won, and maybe that’s all the governments would like us to know. Perhaps this stash of letters and documents would have provided the evidence of that leadership.
The next episode delves in Mountbatten! 😊
That's not all Uncle Dickie was with his inordinate fondness for very young men. Ghastly couple.
I think there were some very serious accusations made and hushed up.
History is always written by the victors
@@lily_m3538and I think that is a huge factor in why there's so much subterfuge.
Great interview! Please do a live with lost beyond Pluto…a fellow Australian
Lost beyond Pluto is fantastic.
Yes she is great
Yes! She is so knowledgeable and just lovely.
I always enjoy her content .
A reaĺy interesting conversation thank you Shauna and Andrew. There are so many skeletons buried deeply especially those of famous persons, particularly those associated with the Royal family.
I cannot believe the archives are not catalogued. Doesn’t that totally defeat the purpose of preserving archives. How utterly absurd.
I agree!
I am simply appalled. Totally draconian. This poor man has a target on his back. History is soooo very important. Fancy the archives not being indexed!! Royal archives sound a nightmare. It's extremely scarey that hustorians are not used to archive important material. 😮😮😮. Incredibly interesting and terrifying at the same time...
What a riveting interview. Thank you so much for this and I can’t wait for part 2. How are you able to land these interviews?? They’re amazing and high quality, network worthy AT LEAST the way it used to be back in the day. No wonder the cut and paste, paid for msm are gunning for UA-camrs. Bravo, Shauna!
I second that. She's a brilliant and engaging interviewer.
The same FOI challenges exist in the US at various levels of government, even local. One only becomes aware when there’s pushback to requests for information.
It's not great in US but better than UK.
@@andrewlownie2033 you might be surprised.
Fabulous interview!! Please have him back again soon!! As an avid reader and historian myself, I am horrified by Andrew's story. It's incredible to think archivial materials are treated so poorly in --of all places--:the UK!!.. It's appalling!!.,
This Sunday, same time!
Fabulous interview! Hats off! Andrew Lownie has so much incredible information to share, I could listen for hours. My compliments to Shauna, too, for asking such well thought out questions. Greetings from a 🇬🇧 tuning in from Germany. x
Wow! That is some insane stuff. I feel awful Andrew and what he's gone through. Obviously, someone doesn't want the truth out there. It's extremely disturbing. Can't wait for part 2.
Great interview Shauna
What a courageous, intelligent gentleman Andrew is.
Such an interesting interview.
Thank you, really enjoyed it.
Just ordered Andrew’s books The Mountbattens and The Traitor King. Thankfully they were both on Audible. Andrew’s tenacity is to be admired. You have to wonder what else they’ve keeping secret and who makes those decisions. The Butler??
This is absolutely appalling! I have nothing but admiration for Dr Andrew Lownie and his pursuit of the truth!
Thank you brilliant ❤️❤️❤️🏴🏴🏴
This was such an interesting video. Thanks so much, Mr. Lownie is such an wonderful writer. I've really enjoyed reading The Traidor King and The Mounbattens. Thanks Shauna for another wonderful interview.❤
You're very welcome!
Fantastic interview, thank you both!
We all know the Mountbatten's were a very colourful family and they had a lot of history which they don't want out there.
Great interview, Shauna!!
Tha k you Shauna, excellent, interesting interview w/Andrew Lowrie. It uncovers so many important aspects of FOi and how history can be "sanitised". As tax payers, we dont care about this enough.
Fabulous interview there is things I never new Shauna keep up the good work you have ❤❤
Thanks for listening
What an extremely interesting episode! Your interview questions and follow up were excellent! Very interesting guest! Thanks!
Thanks for listening
Can’t wait for part 2!
Shauna you're a great interviewer!! ❤ It was upsetting hear that Mr Lownie didn't get any support in his fight to have fair access to historical material....vile that no one has his back and some briefed against him like the newspapers. Great interview though, very interesting stuff in this interview ❤
Thank you 😊
I like your interviews 🎉
Excellent interview.
Thank you for this very interesting and fascinating conversation, Shauna and Andrew =).
Glad you enjoyed it!
This interview is fascinating. Another UA-camr who I listen to, has also reviewed, Traitor King, and The Mountbatten's. It's good to get different perspectives on the same material. They were both fascinating, the thing I didn't know. So hopefully, UA-camrs reviewing these books, to a new audience, will do a service to what the Author has gone through.
Ahhhh, may I say that you and I
were were SPELLBOUND.
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Wow, fascinating
Lawyers really are unconscionable. I have limited experience but it's all about the $$ They appear to have no morals, no scruples, motivated only by influencing judges and winning cases.
Wow how interesting…the king will not want any word against the reputation of his guru…Mountbatten.
this would be a good book to review as its quite saucy in parts also Marion Crawford (Crawfie) has one but I havnt read it, have you ?
Yes I have! Very interesting…
Would as a UK citizen, be able to access these archives?
They are now open to everyone as a result of my efforts.
Whilst listening, it came to me that this 'history' is too soon to be released. I have long thought that a person's life should not be dissected until at least three generations have passed because of the distress it may cause.
To people of my generation (immediately post war), Mountbatten and his influence within the royal family was all too real. You have King Charles still alive who venerated him as a mentor when he was young, along with his siblings who would have known 'Uncle Dickie'.
Too son to go 'digging'. Let sleeping dogs lie for a while, but bring it into the open in its historical context eventually.
I would have agreed with you sometime ago, but as we are living longer. My mother passed away 19 years ago but I won’t be able to find the record where she was evacuated to until 2035. I may not be here to see that. Charles knows what material is out there regarding all his family as much of it is in royal archives. The royals may not behave as badly as their ancestors. Charles in his role as king brings him into contact with people such as Blair, Gates Schwab and many who the public think should have no influence over our country. I too am post war generation and am now learning how my ancestors died in ww1. All my life that had an effect on my grandmother and we were unaware.
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Haven't received notification of your You Tube screenings for months! Are you being censored indirectw.? Your show is balance and not controversial in any way.
Probably! 😂
Dear Shauna,
kindly give or let the guest give a full story behind the topic you are discussing, many a times we are not so well versed in everything. (My curiosity piqued at the mention of Edwina and Nehru🫢) I will do a little research of my own, but don’t you think you are doing the interview for your audience as well, and not just for yourself. You may have researched well about the guest’s story of coming across all the papers he came across, but we may not.
Part 2 covers all if that in detail. Unfortunately if I was to do what you say the episode would have been hours long. 😂
When you hear someone as intelligent, sensible and knowledgeable as Andrew describe all this it’s really quite chilling and you wonder exactly what else has been censored, manipulated and hidden from us. Terrific interview, I really had no idea just how difficult it had gotten for him.
Gobsmacking isn’t it!
@@thevintagereadand then some!
My highest possible respect for Mr. Lownie
I am an amateur historian and I can confirm how many historians are either jealous guys or cowards due to their fear being "blocked" or sanctioned by the authorities. So, I am full of respect for Andrew and I wish him all the best. Thank you, Shauna, it is a great interview. Greetings from Austria.
How heartbreaking for Andrew. This was an interview and a half. Good one Shauna and yes do have this man back. So much knowledge and so interesting. It is wicked to think so much history has been lost. Lies and scandles abound. ❤
Sunday is part 2 and you won’t believe your ears!
@@thevintageread Now I'm even more thrilled! Bring it on!
THANK YOU, Amazing Shauna! And thank you, Andrew, you are a brave man indeed! I need to make time to read his Mountbatten book ASAP...
Absolutely fascinating insight into British bureaucracy, Shauna and Andrew. I so admire Andrew for pushing on with his case despite the many roadblocks placed in his way and the less than satisfactory outcome for both himself and British justice.
Really interesting. How awful to lose your savings. But a very strong character to fight for what is right.
Indeed!
@@thevintageread Maybe the film rights will be sold and it will have a happy ending.
I'd love to see a movie about a mild mannered historian triumphing over the information hoarding archivists. I see Michael Sheen as Mr Lownie.
A man of principle. So refreshing in today’s climate.
Thank you Shauna for helping Andrew bring this to the attention of more people.
To have history destroyed like that is disturbing. Can we ever believe anything we read.
We live in an era of fake news.
Yes, the Bible🤗🫶🏼
Unfortunately, even the Bible has been fiddled with. I had to study the original Aramaic and Hebrew used as Greek translators didn't always have the *exact* word so some put in what 'they thought' was the closest to the original, but this caused passages to read entirely different from what was originally written. One example is the exile of Noah's son for "uncovering his father's nakedness" which makes it seem as if he was exiled only because he saw his (drunken) father unclothed. The original text relates an entirely different scenario, for which exile is totally reasonable given the circumstances. Another example is the changing of wine skins to bottles (Luke 5:37-38. Putting fresh wine that needs to ferment into an old wineskin will cause it to burst due to its brittleness. Substituting bottle here makes zero sense...but small changes have occurred over time. I have witnessed this myself. This is not to say that the Bible shouldn't be read. It should, but in order to truly understand it, one must study it.
@@booperpotpie9634Hebrew is notoriously difficult to translate, even modern day Hebrew, it's almost a language unto itself. You have to almost live the language and feel it, if that makes sense. Well done you for studying the originals.
I don’t think we can believe all historical material. Even the Bible was corrupted by the various writers.
Thank you, Shauna. You have raised the bar and set a high standard for interviewing, which is so refreshing. I found it all very interesting tonight and look forward to the next one on Sunday.
So glad!
Very interesting. No offense, but this stinks to the high heavens. By the way, if this man is vexatious, what do they call Prince Harry s legal actions.
Good point!
Highly recommend the show this man did with Andrew Gold
In the light of the postoffice scandal. This is also a miscarage of justice. A network of people who work against him, and the state.
If Prince Harry was not a Prince it is very likely that he would be declared a vexatious litigant. Different rules for us and them.
I own two of Andrew Lownie’s books. He is an excellent writer and historian. If he continues to write, I will continue to purchase his books.
Prince Andrew is out next year.
@@andrewlownie2033 I look forward to buying it.
Looking forward to this conversation, thanks for such indepth interviews with such interesting and knowledgeable people.
Thanks for watching!
What a great interview! I love Andrew Lownie and have so much more respect for him after listening today. I knew of his struggles with bureaucracy but had no idea the financial toll it has been for him. So sad with all he has been through that he doesn't have more backing from outsiders...he is a literary hero in my book! I can't wait for you to have him on again and continue his amazing story....Thank you Shauna!♥️
Very interesting conversation!! I read Traitor King and learned quite bit. This man is invaluable in seeing history verified and recorded both today and tomorrow.
Can’t wait to see him back!!!
This man's struggles with the archives are amazing and are very common. Open records are a constant battle and too many people do not fight for them tooth and tong like they should. I have been in a struggle like that in my town years ago. We never got all we wanted, but our objectives were ultimately achieved.
Wow! The UK is in the same moribund condition as the USA. Honor and commitment to good governance are essentially gone. Democracies are failing because too many citizens are lazy and only vote for personally beneficial candidates who buy them off with taxpayer funds whether the nation can afford it or not. Also allowing unions for government workers. That has resulted in mediocrity and waste because the workers can't be fired.
So looking forward to part 2, I am appalled at the treatment of Andrew. Just goes to show all government is crooked and the rights of the people means nothing. It’s shameful and scary for all of us.
As an older woman who is sorting through the 'stuff' of her life, I am destroying lots of letters, etc. Not being royal, and only a descendant of family from Britain and other countries in the British Isles, my 'stuff' is stuff. Honestly, if people (my family) thought they had the right to know what I wrote, I wouldn't write anything at all. Personal correspondence is just that, personal. I doubt if the royal family, being human, really wants all their wash hung out there, and I don't blame them at all. I imagine that rulers of all kinds have been destroying their memories since cuneiform, and perhaps even paintings on cave walls. I do agree that public records are public records and should be respected and preserved, for better or for worse. But private correspondence is private - IMHO. Or should we all be like Prince Harry? Shudder.
In this case the Mountbatten family openly sold the personal letters and diaries to pay for the roof. The fundraising was done on the basis they would be open to the public.
@@andrewlownie2033 That's so interesting...sounds like the Mountbatten family never considered an author of your caliber showing any interest in those personal letters and diaries. Wow!
We need the truth about lots of things pertaining to Harry. Not least his alleged history of physical abuse of females of a certain type during sexual encounters. His behaviours as a child and teenager. His time in Afghanistan what is the truth about that? His two invisible children and their very questionable births. His marital status at the present time and whether he is living alone since almost two years. None of these would interest us or be called into question if he lived a quiet life of dignity and obscurity but he keeps thrusting himself into the public eye, often spouting spiteful lies about his family and demands he be addressed as Prince, Duke and his children (??) in America be given British Royal titles!!! 😩😤🙄
High end sleuthing there, Shauna! Well done!!
Great interview Shauna
Thankyou
Andrew Lounie was such an interesting and knowledgeable man. Its so unfair and truly wrong that he had to even have this legal fight.
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I absolutely admire your persistence and tenacity Andrew. I'm horrified but not shocked about your treatment as we see this seems to becoming the new norm.😢
SHAUNA - please consider getting blackbeltbarrister on your show TOGETHER with Andrew. It would be very helpful to Andrew and the viewers to talk about this. If BLACKBELT BARRISTER doesn't have time then his Barrister friend Alan Robertshaw - Art of Law - may be willing to come to a round table discussion....actually I bet Alan would be very willing to be a guest♡
So sorry Andrew! You absolutely do not deserve to be messed around on such a ridiculous scale😢
Much love and respect to you both ♡❤
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Any legal advice and support I can get would be welcomed.
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Dear Andrew - suggest to Shauna a round table with a barrister, such as the two I mentioned above, or if Shauna is fully booked then SCANDAL MONGERS could do a debate about these shenanigans 😢
It's unbelievable - and worth bringing to light your multiple struggles on a larger forum.
Chin up Andrew!
I'm sure your book sales will surge - you are a lovely person so fans will support you! ❤
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I'm not sure I understand how anyone could possibly have purchased the Broadlands Archive without already knowing that it would contain references to the RF, given their relationship with Lord Mountbatten....?
Exactly! Wait until you hear Part 2 on Sunday 🔥
Perhaps that's the whole point.
Truly brilliant, insightful and most disturbing. I have read some of Mr
Lounies books and am a huge fan and remain in awe of his perseverance, saddened by the losses he has incurred and can only hope he manages to plough ahead through the quagmire of deceit and destruction in search of the truth. I am not too surprised to hear history has been 'modified ' but i am so shocked as to how much past and present interference is continuing to protect public figures.
Thanks so much for your support. Good to know one isn't alone.
Well done Andrew on persistence and courage to unveil the truth contained in historical archives! This is the era of enlightenment ,to uncover secrets and promote awareness. I will be buying the book on the Mountbattens after the excellent interview with Shauna😊
Thank you and I hope you enjoy it.
Fascinating and well done Shauna for allowing Andrew to explain it. You are a natural born interviewer.
Infact, a lot of you tubers are interviewing recently and they are all far better than any proffesional.
Cant wait for your next chat with Andrew.
I couldn't help but hear lines from "1984" in my head while listening.
I've always wondered what George Orwell actually knew when he wrote that book.
Watching while waiting for my grandson coming out of school-given myself an hour where I’m not going to be distracted or bothered
Crack on you two- make my day😂😂😂
I love Andrew’s voice it’s like velvet
Andrew received no procedural fairness & whilst his solicitors ostensibly breached no Practice Rules, they definitely breached their ethical & moral duty towards their client, Andrew. If it wasn't for the dismal fact that this whole case was before a 'kangaroo court', I would bring an action against the solicitors for breach of duty of care (as per equitable principles of law). Because the solicitors acted unconscionsbly in allowing their client to proceed to incur costs in a legal action they could have predicted with reasonable certainty would ultimately fail!!
If the case wasn't inflammatory- going against the establishment- I'm certain another law firm would take on t appeal (to try recover costs) on a pro bono basis.
*** such a shame & real evidence of censorship ***
Thank you for your comment! I will make sure he sees it.
Thanks Shauna! May I add, you are a very good interviewer.
@@Lemon_N555 The problem was having started with one law firm I couldn't swop horses half way. They gave me charity rates but still over £300 an hour and my opponents deliberately pushed up my costs with their tactics including deploying a mysterious Ministerial Direction that was then dropped. We had always stressed we were looking for our costs given their 'unreasonable behaviour' but even a High Court action for contempt against Southampton by ICO - first time in history - doesn't seem to have counted. I mistakenly thought that without seeing it through then I wouldn't be awarded costs . I also felt a responsibility to see the action through to ensure he material was made public. I did look into a complaint but short of stealing clients money the Solicitor Regulation Authority will do nothing. I had hoped the original lawyers would do an appeal pro bono but the solicitor said his partners wouldn't allow it and the barrister she couldn't afford it. By then I had been completely cleaned out and had to give up.
@@andrewlownie2033 The injustice you suffered makes me even more determined to support you in purchasing more of your books, Mr. Lownie. Keep up the good fight!
The RF is not above the law. But then, they are. Andrew, Harry, Mountbatten, Edward, all doing nefarious deeds in the dark. This does not bode well for their continued existence. I admire Andrew Lownie for his lone battle and his tenacity in the face of obstruction. I’m enjoying reading about Dickie atm. He is a wonderful historian.
Andrew Lownie should be celebrated! He's sacrificed so much to get the truth out. Most of us are so tired of being gaslighted. We know some Royals (if not most) don't have squeaky clean pasts.
Listening to this interview with my jaw dropping. 😮Fascinating. Thanks to you both. 😊💕
Thanks for listening
I found this interview conflicting. I understand the Public interest however even mentioning Wallace Simpson having affairs seems very personal to me and should be no one else’s business. This is just one of many examples of when Historians cross the line. Much of what they reveal is gossip and innuendo that could affect ancestors living today. A lot of information can’t be verified so easily as it can be today with the advent of social media. Andrew eludes to that when talking, mentioning “stories at the time” in other words gossip. It’s a very fine line writing about deceased people who can have no redress. To say people destroy some of their correspondence or private letters inferring they are hiding something can be as simple as their desire to keep their very personal feelings and private life, private, as most of us do. It’s not sinister it’s just for privacy. I do understand,as with the Duke of Windsor it was in the Public interest to tell the story of the abdication and his public life after however what happened privately in his marriage is really of no consequence to the public.
I am not sure what you mean by crossing the line. The point is the Mountbatten material was freely sold for £ millions to be open. Taxpayers money was used so the collection cold be studied. If you read my book you will see that Mountbatten wanted a warts and all biography.
@@andrewlownie2033 I understand that. I was talking more generally. I just think sometimes Historians write about extremely private details of someone’s life based on “stories at the time”. Many stories are written in the Public interest however is it in the public interest to delve into extremely personal,intimate details including private letters. As I said I am conflicted. I enjoy reading the books however sometimes the personal details and letters feels very intrusive
@@Catlover2091 I agree. Everything I read now by ''historians'' "shows" that ''all'' their subjects were spies, gay, bisexual and everyone had affairs.
Shauna, ❤️ your interview…BRAVO!!! You had the most interesting podcast to date, ( in my opinion). I absolutely adore Andrew, especially his & Phil’s ‘The Scandal Mongers Podcast’. I’ve been following him since I first stumbled onto ‘The Steve Bartlett Podcast.’ There is an absolute sweet, kind & extremely polite nature in his demeanor…and I’m also amused that 99% of the time he wears blue😀😀. What a wardrobe🫣😀. Keep up the fantastic work both of you.
Yay! Thank you!
This sounds similar to The Palace Letters led by Jenny Hocking here in Oz.
Maybe just because I have a interest in history, I find this fasinating. Looking forward to the next chat!
The next one is 🙌🔥
I like the Monarchy but have known they make use of ways and means to protect their reputation/ members and to manipulate to improve their PR. Like with Charles and rehabilitating Camilla’s image years ago- to lead to her being accepted in marriage and as Queen. I prefer this kind of democracy over a republic, having a front row seat in Canada to all the carrying on in the United States. This fine fellow has tried so hard and it’s cost him a lot, but he has my complete respect and gratefulness for trying to get to the truth of what we are entitled to see. I am very sorry he has not had more support especially from other professionals. And I wish he had a benefactor. Maybe not enough people know what he has been trying to achieve. I didn’t. Let’s hope some wealthy person finds it important as well. Maybe we need to create a go-fund-me and all of us give just a few dollars and it can add up to help Andrew. He shouldn’t have to bear the cost of this alone.
Fascinating and rather murky past, I suspect things are no better now though! Xx
Oh gosh Shauna. Loved this interview. Please do more like this. Absolutely fascinating. But now my brain is doing cartwheels regarding everything I ever thought of the Royal Family🥹
Very excited! Coffee in Boston with two favorites!
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Very good! And a bit scary how easy it is for governments to tar and feather someone.
Andrew was obviously being deterred from fighting for access. It stinks. I really feel for him. I'll be buying his book and I hope he makes some money back.
Thanks for your support.
Absolutely fascinating. What a fabulous guest. Thank you Shauna.
This was such a great interview. I caught a bit of an interview he was doing a few months back but nowhere near the coverage of this. Can’t believe he’s been treated so badly & lost so much in the process.
Yes I thought past interviews didn’t tell the story properly so I asked for the opportunity.
Morale of the story ..don't ever go against the Monarchy ..or else ..a very intelligent and humble man ..
Unless we are prepared to stand firm against this sort of abuse the barbarians will win.
Its not the monarchy. It seems its govetnment and civil servants. Who are the 'they' we keep hearing about. Who is in charge of the royal archives,?
Thank you for this great interview - looking forward to the next one. 👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it!
This kind of censorship is live right now. Julian Assange noted...
Agreed! Censorship is covering up the truth and there'll be no transparency whilst there is a "big brother" deciding on what's relevant or not. It used to be a strange world we're living in, now it's a scary world.
He needs to set up a "Go Fund Me" to cover ongoing costs and make history known! Thank you for a brilliant, informative interview 💗
Shauna, this was a very informative interview. I’m really looking forward to hearing more from Mr. Lownie. I volunteer as an archivist at my local symphony orchestra. Although the materials I deal with are of a completely different nature, there are sensitive letters and documents in our files. I am appalled at the idea that any document would be destroyed.
I've been enjoying The Traitor King and Mr Lownie's use of sources and footnotes on every page is impressive.
I had been thinking he must be an admirably pedantic researcher but I just didn't realise the battle he has been fighting to get access to documents.
I do understand to a degree the sealing of information but these are quite dated files he's interested in afterall.
Great interview Shauna! Very interesting yet disturbing. I am a retired information manager and worked with Qld government and had a high opinionof Britain's National Archives and am astounded at the lack of common practices such as digitisation of records and adequate categorisation! I wonder if KCIII had any influence regarding the redaction and destruction of archives relating to his beloved Uncle Dickie?
Well it was happening prior to his reign…There was hope he would lead a new era of transparency.
Andrew Lownie is fascinating. Thanks for a great conversation. I'm a monarchist but since this covering up has become worse, I even wonder if it's coming directly from Charles. He has covered for other problem male mentors before. And why would he ask his son and dau-in-law to name their child after Lord M, knowing what he knows? It's as if he's deliberately defying the facts.
A lot of assumptions in your comment there. I'd love to know who the 'other problem male mentors' were. As for historical documents, I feel there should be a moratorium on private correspondence and diaries for at least 150 years after the death of the people involved. Public papers should be restricted only where there's a sensitive security issue, but private papers aren't something the public necessarily have a right to know.
No evidence that Louis is named for Mountbatten-it was already a family name in the royal family. I don’t think that a historian deserves access to sensitive documents or personal records or correspondence when others are still alive who are possibly impacted. Mountbatten’s close family members are still alive.
That is the point, these were public papers and were sold FOR public access by the family and purchased with tax payers money for that purpose. There are plenty of provisions to protect TRULY sensitive documents. The Royal family don’t have to add private documents to the archive, however allowing a Footman to determine what is public and private is ludicrous. It should be done by a trained historian.
@@thevintagereada trained archivist at least. I do agree with what you’re saying.
@GinaSeay-kn7xr Bishop Peter Ball, Jimmy Saville. And the usual sensibility towards a research subject is their own lifetime, not the lives of their descendants.
Thats what harry should be deemed as vexatious litigiant