Personally I would be interested in seeing Lego do another Helm's Deep set, it would probably work better for size and scale comparing to Minis Tirith set.
I agree. I look at the helms deep I have and I think if they quadruple the piece count or so (around 6k) they that would be enough to flush it out and leave us with a grand helms deep
For Minas Tirith you HAVE to go big and bold. Make it one of the biggest sets ever in the realm of a Millenium Falcon or Eiffel Tower. But then also make a few Diorama Sets like Mount Doom, the Bridge of Khazad Dum or Pellenor Fields under 100$ to go along with it. Maybe even 2 battle Packs and more Brickheadz, so people also have a cheaper option to buy.
There are many places to choose from: Minas Tirith, Minas Morgul, Edoras, Shire, Bree, Lothlorien, Isengard, Erebor, Helms Deep, Moria, Black Gate, Mount Doom, Osgiliarth, Weathertop, The Argonath, Dol Guldur, Grey Havens etc. I would love to build Minas Tirith, but I'm sure they know fans expect a HUGE build. The White City must be huge, so I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to choose the Shire or Helms Deep for the next build. We'll probably have to wait a few years for Minas Thirit, or we'll never get it
Honestly, a good way to go would be to make some "midi scale" models and include 1 desirable minifigure with each a year after the more expensive version has been on the market. Similar to what they are doing with the Disney line, where they had the $400 castle, and then the $50 version with a single figure. Satisfy those with $500 of expendable income, and provide an alternative for those that don't, and this way the more expensive builds fund the R&D for the high end minifigures. So for instance, this year release a $50 Rivendell midi build that comes with Elrond, next year do the same with Bara-Dur with Sauron. Yes it would anger collectors who value exclusivity, but I care more about the general fan with only $50 to spend who is really pining to return to Middle Earth.
As long as it's the same figure that's available in the big set- unfair to those who spend £4-500 on a set then feel they have to buy all the small ones too- think Harry Potter, it's gotten ridiculous. Even the brickheadz having multiple Harry's in different costumes that you have to buy to get others 🙃
It would be great if Lego did LOTR battle packs, as they do with Star Wars and potentially some smaller builds, play-scale style. Or even "midi" scale or architecture scale sets. But they've set precedent--the Shire, Minas Tirith, or even Rohan become the logic next choice, and at a scale similar to what they've done already. Unlike a Star Wars, I think that they have a much smaller base of things to design and sell with LOTR. They've set precedent. Bring in Minas Tirith!
Admittedly, I want a giant Shire with multiple Hobbit huts and grassy hills, but that doesn't seem to be a very LEGO thing to do, because the nature portions of sets tend to be minimal at best letting AFOL's create their own visions in that space
I think minas tirith would be amazing, but maybe do it in sections. You can start with the top section (with the white tree and buildings), then add a new lower section each year. That would make it more affordable and keep the interest for longer (they can then stop making new levels if the interest dies out). Collectors can then make it as big or small as you want.
Best thing I can think of would be midi-scale with micro-scale places and minifigure scale spots. Like a forced perspective type deal. I believe we’re going to get two more of these types of sets, ministereth and the shire (which should include figures from both the hobbit and lotr. We should get some smaller sets too, like Shelob or khazad-dum and Mt doom, possibly an orc forge.
I would love to see Minas Tirith but built with many sets same as Hogwarts. One set could be front gate with Grond and some Gondor soldiers, orcs and Battle Troll maybe One set could be part of front wall with orc siege tower, with couple of Gondor soldiers and orcs ( if You buy many of those sets You could connect it with front gate set One bigger set could be second level maybe, and the biggest set should be the top..... We could also have set where Pippn sets fire, I could imagine dozens of sets tu put together to make as minifig scale Minas Tirith as possible, othervide it will be probably micro scale set. It would be also nice to get Pellenor fields battle packs: One set could be buildable Oliphant with some Harad archers and Harad leader and also 2 Rohirrim riders One set could be Fell beast with Witch King, plus Eowyn Merry and Theoden, also some orc and buildable catapult IIt would be the best way for more cheaper sets fot this solution, You can buy the sets You want to spend money on and build armies, or buy everything and have completed collection
I thought it would be an interesting idea to build a Minas Tirith kind of like how they do Hogwarts castle. Make a bunch of sets where they all add into a massive build. In this case, they could also make each set have 3 to 5 figs, so once you get everything to build Minas Tirith, you have a ton of figures to decorate the model. The only problem I see here is that it'll be difficult to put everything together and make it look like it's a high-priced set while also keeping to a play focused set
One solution Lego could employ would be a medium size set which allows for different builds, like a 2-in-1 or 3-in-1 set…where those with a smaller budget could get a good build, and those with bank could buy two or three sets and expand the build by combining the sets. This would cause a doubling of mini figures, but would probably work if they were army building figures.
Prediction: Minas Tirith will consist of two different sets split down the middle (with the half interior view) allowing it to be combined into one massive build with the purchase of two units. Just like the Egyptian pyramids. This appeals to people who are wanting the massive build option and those who can only afford half of one. (Yes this is a grab for more cash). Fingers crossed we get some battle packs to appease the people who want more affordability, but it’s likely that premium figures (ie Faramir and Denethor will be locked behind those higher prices).
I personally think the if LEGO brought back normal priced LOTR sets they would do much better than they think. I know the Ring of Power show was terrible, but the original movie was a huge hit. I can see that if they brought back more affordable LOTR sets they would do great. Might even have more profit from these sales than the ones they are getting with these bigger sets. I will keep my fingers crossed like the rest of you!
The problem I see with Minas Tirith is that you couldn't possibly fit minifigures without having something that could be the centerpiece of a convention: either you go microscale, or you do only a small section, like the top tier with the tree and Denethor's Hall. The Burrow would be much more fitting for the size they are aiming, either from The Hobbit with the 13 dwarves, or Bilbo's birthday from the LotR; scenes from Moria (the lake, Balin's tomb, Kazad-dum) or Lothlorien have also potential. Maybe the Prancing Pony... Personally, I would like a nanoscale Minas Tirith, with the same final size (and cost) of the latest Hogwarts Ground set: not everyone has a rennaisance villa to showcase all these massive sets...
I think that they should release a helms deep set as the old one was just a wall and along side that should release cheap battle packs and smaller sets to help build up armies
I think one way to do it would be to go MicroFigure scale for Minas Tirith like the 650 dollar hogwarts and have alot of microfigures to put around the place and inclued say 4 big characters as minifigures like Gandalf the white and other characters that was a major part of that part fo the movie.
What you said about LOTR not being the big brand it was a decade or two ago being a reason they made its return like this and haven't given it full waves yet, trying to capitalize on one big sets' sales per year - I mean, the same is true of Harry Potter. The old movies are long done and the latest releases were controversial and far from a universal hit - EXACTLY the same situation as the LOTR franchise. And yet, they keep doing HP waves regularly, even recycling sets now for a second time that have been made already since it returned in 2018 - and it's working! I don't see anyone upset about it, they're happily buying it, just like Star Wars remakes. So I dunno if that idea holds up, Harry Potter feels like its a good bit worse than lord of the rings in terms of the state it's in right now and yet the legos are very successful sticking to only the old movies. Don't see why LOTR couldn't do that, HP is putting huge expensive sets out AND regular ones
To paraphrase John Lennon: "I'd like to ask your help: To the people in the cheaper seats, shake your 10-minute build sets. And the rest of you can just beam with pride over what you can afford". Minas Tirith is the ONE set I want out of everything Lego could potentially do. And if they do it, it deserves to be big. Really big. I've nothing against them releasing a smaller version for the cheapskates, but those of us who want the real thing should also be catered to.
I would find it hard to say no to a hobbiton set. But I do agree that they should mix it up and not only making huge set but create set of different sizes.
I wish they'd do something at the scale of the Hogwarts Castle and Grounds for Minas Tirith so that it would be at a smaller Edale and smaller price but still look great. Yes it would not match the other sets, but continuing to do just one massive, expensive set each year seems crazy.
Minas Tirith would make the most sense for another big LOTR set. I mean if you take Rivendell as representing the first film, Barad Dur representing the second, Minas Tirith would be perfect to represent the third film. 05:09 LEGO are a profit making company just like any other. They know this is the best way for them to make money. Because even the giant expensive sets still get snapped up even just for the figures. And sure a lot are getting parted out or the minifigures split and sold on from the set- but given that LEGO now owns Bricklink (one of the biggest sites for selling on Lego parts and minifigures) they don’t really care about people not liking giant sets because of the cost. Because there’s enough scalpers and resellers out there to still make them worth it. And even with themes like Star Wars, gone are the days of cheap battle packs full of wanted figures. You don’t get a unique character with them anymore and they’re only going up in price, with some attempts to justify the increase being made by adding in builds that most don’t really want. 11:22 Ironic considering that is pretty much how those shots were done IRL. It is the same physical set in most of the shots rejigged, redressed and shot from slightly different angles to make you think it’s a new set, but it’s not. It’s the same one. 😂
@@manu1788 a giant moria diorama would be amazing (I mean that in the Avengers tower sense as in a full model with minifigs dotted around and Gandalf v balrog being the main centerpiece)
I can't think of a worse LoTR set than MT, it would just be a big blob of grey. They did fantastic with BD not making it just a big black tower but I'm not sure they could make MT that dimensionsal. I'd love a RD scale Shire- with Gandalf's horse and cart
I think Minas Tirith would be best as a micro scale. There is NO WAY you can make it look amazing by making it minfig scale. It would look so off. I just hope Lego included a vast array of minifigures. Minifigures we need: - Gandalf the White - Denethor - Gondor Soldier - Pippin (Gondor armor) - Faramir - Theoden - Rohan Soldier - Eowyn (armor) - Merry (Rohan Esquire) - Witch King - Gothmog - Orc x4 - Haradrim x2
Minis Tirith is probably the last huge Lego set they can milk for extreme high pricing before they can potentially finally start planning an initial small wave or affordable sets us normal people can afford 😂
I always wonder how people can actually 1. afford and 2. place this stuff in their homes. Anyone living in an apartment knows the struggle, but even in a comfy home you should have trouble finding a good place for these 1m tall ridiculous sets
@@bighatastreawell you can always go the route of getting a knockoff set. They are close in quality as long as you’re careful where you buy them from and with Lego price gouging it’s really hard to feel bad about not buying from them.
Hate to break it to you, but helms deep and orthanc could absolutely get redone, as well as bag end. I think we'll get these bigger sets for a while longer...
Minas Tirith imo is something that can only be done justice when done as big as possible. It should be the UCS millenium falcon of the LoTR line. I absolutely would love affordable/smaller/playscale sets, but Minas Tirith should not be one of them. It deserves to be the biggest lego set to date imo. If your gonna do it big, do it right. If its going to be expensive, go all out. Meanwhile, the playscale sets should be things appropriate for the size. A mumakil, battle packs, maybe even a proper fell beast etc.
@@CoReOmega make it $1000. Id pay for it honestly. It would be the crowning jewel of my lego display. Just do it justice is all I ask. Dont cut corners, give us a ton of minifigures. Then make a bunch of playscale sets to appease others: amon hen, balrog, mumakil, grond, battle packs. If they are smart about it, those sets could even be companion sets
"We're not ready yet" = the consumers aren't "ready" yet. Get children hooked on a branded idea, then deliberately create scarcity while waiting for them to grow up with jobs before selling them their nostalgia in the form of massively overpriced products. Pretty disgusting when you think about it.
Great points for and against a Minas Tirith. I've purchased both LoTR sets from the past two years, and I would love to see it, but it's hard to do Minas Tirith justice. Micro scale would not really work, as both sets have set a precedent for minifigure scale. They could take a section of the city, but it would just be unepic. It's a tough problem, but if there's a third LoTR set, there are quite large shoes to fill.
just as i shared a few days ago! very glad to hear you share the same. May the road go ever on and on... minas tirith 2025 hobbiton 2026 worst case its the other way around
I'd honestly prefer to get Helms Deep next, as we've had a set from Fellowship and now return of the king. But I wouldn't complain at all if we got Minas Tirith.
I don't think they can do Minas Tirith justice, so I don't think they should do that - not as a complete version of the city anyway. Maybe they could do the central part with the Tower of Ecthelion, the White Tree and the big walkway. And just forego the tiered city beneath (and the hall of kings). Alternatively; focus on the Hall of Kings and make 'the Citadel of Minas Tirith', but nothing else. But the thing is; whatever they choose to do; some people will be disappointed. I would personally much rather see a nice depiction of (a part of) Hobbiton or a nicely detailed Prancing Pony.
If LEGO want to carry on making large builds from LOTR, they need to build sets to fall at most within 100-150$ range. Micro or Mini scale builds of larger things with some minifigs for display, just like the new smaller Star Wars ships under $100. No one has the display space for both Rivendell or Barad-Dur, let alone the near $1,000 to have both chunks of plastic. I want sets to display on my desk, or on a bookcase or on a shelf in my room, something at a scale suitable for display and doesn't command an entire dedicated plinth in my home. Had the current sets been under $150 each, and knowing there's a third now, I'd have bought all 3. But as it stands, I've refused to buy any current $300/400+ LOTR sets
I feel like Lego has been appealing too much to adult collectors. There needs to be a healthy balance. Lego was created for kids and ultimately Lego should make sets that appeal to both older and younger fans. No kid can afford a $400 set. Heck most adults can’t justify spending that much on a set. Realistically there should be a $10-100 dollar range of sets like we had in 2012. They did an amazing job with lotr and the hobbit with those limitations in mind.
I don’t think it needed Shelob. But they certainly could’ve easily included more orcs to bulk things out, even if they only had simple arm swaps and face prints to make them look different. 🤷
Minas Tirith is too massive to ever make for a satisfying minifigure-scaled LEGO set. I'd prefer the royal keep of Edoras, the capital of Rohan. It's smaller and more compact a building, making it perfect for a $200-300 set. Plus, it could include a number of characters who've never gotten any figs, like Theoden, Eowyn, Eomer, and Grima Wormtongue. And if you don't want a LotR set, it can easily be repurposed for regular Castle and Viking minifigures.
Did anyone have a thought that the next set maybe from the Hobbit e.g. the Lonely mountain or Erobor, or smaug himself. Idk, just an idea, but it might be unpopular considering lego's production of dragons have been so high. They did release a Dundeons and dragons Dragon few months ago. But it would be cool to see a buildable smaug maybe not now though
My max to spend on a Lego set is 300$ I really want the barad dur and rivendell and the others ucs sets from this theme that eventually will get released But spending this much money on just plastic it’s to damn crazy😭 I will wait for the play sets or those a little bit more expensive (max 300$) from these theme Even 300$ it’s to damn much For me It’s really need to be worthy to spend this money On my wishlist up to 200$ it’s the new great hall and the the burrow collectors edition The rest is under 130$ If people didn’t spend this much money on a set Lego would low down the damn prices
As much as I’d love Mina’s Tirith, I don’t think it would work all that well as a minifig compatible thing. They’ve have to do something similar to what they did with Hogwarts to do it properly. I feel that Helm’s Deep or Bag End would make much more sense for the pseudo play scale they’re trying to stick with. And as someone who has Bag End from 2012 as one of their white whale sets, I’d love to get another version of it in the newer style. They could even make it similar to the layout of Rivendell, with the hobbit hole on one side, and then Bilbo’s party on the other. Honestly, I just want an excuse to get Rosie and that dude who’s always scowling 😂
I wouldn't mind seeing a set for the bridge of khazad dum or morannon (the black gate), or even one with 9 men, 7 dwarves, 3 elves, and sauron with the poem
I disagree. I believe there is a huge following for LOTR. Rivendell last year went on backorder and did so this year too. Also the Tower of Barur Dur went on backorder. They aren't coming up with a whole bunch of cheap sets because they don't want to oversaturate the market. They want people to feel like that have something special. I don't know what is in the works for Minas Tirith but so far they've brought it!
If it's not going to be wildly affordable then I really could care less about the theme returning. WE NEED CHEAPER SETS, if it only came back for D2C sets then they'll run out of stuff fast and fans will run out of space.
Just give us a mumakil instead. They would never be able to do a proper scaled minas tirith at a good price. But a mumakil at around 300$ would be really cool.
I think one approach could be dividing Minas Tirith into two main parts. Buying one set will get you, let’s say 9,000-10,000 pieces (for $1,000), all of which will be used for the main building. The same pieces could also be used for the second part (if you disassemble the main build) with some left over. That way, fans get to enjoy each part of the iconic LOTR scene, one at a time. For the diehard fans, it isn’t a stretch for them to spend 2k to get something they really want. For those that want the whole thing, but don’t have / don’t want to spend that much all at once can buy one at a time (say, in a year). I think it’s doable if LEGO stretch out the theme and make them available for sale for 3-4 years. They’re going to bank a lot of $ just selling this set alone (assuming they did a reasonably good job on the design). Even better if they have two waves of smaller LOTR sets, battle packs at $10/20/50/100 during. It will be hot. Perhaps even rival the sales of themes like SW / ICON.
I say definitely go nanoscale with this. Maybe mix in some minifig scale interiors accessible and viewable from behind, a little like the Star Destroyer or death Star sets. These huge sets aren't just incredibly expensive, they also require significant display space in people's homes. If you're a big enough LOTR fan to want a Minas Tirith, you probably are already displaying one of the two big LOTR sets already.
Distinct? Are you married? My mrs cracked up when she saw the display model and and pointed it out was just like her disney castle. I'm up to bag 3. The question for me is, elves, bad guys, check. Humans? Boring. So will this set be awesome enough to inspire getting it anyway. Also, is what they're trying with lord of the rings simply selling you an entire wave in one set? Depending on the day these lotr sets conveniently cost as much as a full wave of play scale sets... EDIT: Don't worry about the scale. I restored our ucs hogwarts castle recently and finally came to warm happiness with lego micro scale. It can be great.
It would have to be so huge that the price would make it cheaper to buy a Jag, or they would make it cheap but it would be awful. The scale of Minas tirith would make doing the set impossible. There is a castle in the 5th series of bricklink called "The King Returns" that has the look of Minas Tirith and its 4000 pieces and it looks like a quarter of Minas Tirith.
Personally I would be interested in seeing Lego do another Helm's Deep set, it would probably work better for size and scale comparing to Minis Tirith set.
So many great builds in middle earth I don't want a long dull grey wall hehe
yeah, the original set didn't capture the terrain thatmade helms deep such an iconic location
Silence! Don't ruin this.
I agree with you. Helms Deep with a bunch of Uruks would be awesome.
I agree. I look at the helms deep I have and I think if they quadruple the piece count or so (around 6k) they that would be enough to flush it out and leave us with a grand helms deep
A Bag End for half the price of the last two sets would be amazing!
For Minas Tirith you HAVE to go big and bold. Make it one of the biggest sets ever in the realm of a Millenium Falcon or Eiffel Tower. But then also make a few Diorama Sets like Mount Doom, the Bridge of Khazad Dum or Pellenor Fields under 100$ to go along with it. Maybe even 2 battle Packs and more Brickheadz, so people also have a cheaper option to buy.
Battle packs for the new anime Lord of the rings movie I'd love some rohan soldiers
I would like a 20,000 piece $2000 Minas Titith set! It would rest permanently on my dining table. No more having guests for dinner but worth it.
I would 100%buy that
Hooray, a Hobbit fire station is the next set.
Maybe the next sets could be modular Minas Tirith like how they did Hogwart's.
I'd love a detailed Bag End. Maybe combined with the party tree
This. I’d love to get Rivendell, but if Bag End is going to happen any time soon my inner hobbit would rather spend all my rent money on that. 😅
There are many places to choose from:
Minas Tirith, Minas Morgul, Edoras, Shire, Bree, Lothlorien, Isengard, Erebor, Helms Deep, Moria, Black Gate, Mount Doom, Osgiliarth, Weathertop, The Argonath, Dol Guldur, Grey Havens etc.
I would love to build Minas Tirith, but I'm sure they know fans expect a HUGE build.
The White City must be huge, so I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to choose the Shire or Helms Deep for the next build.
We'll probably have to wait a few years for Minas Thirit, or we'll never get it
Honestly, a good way to go would be to make some "midi scale" models and include 1 desirable minifigure with each a year after the more expensive version has been on the market. Similar to what they are doing with the Disney line, where they had the $400 castle, and then the $50 version with a single figure. Satisfy those with $500 of expendable income, and provide an alternative for those that don't, and this way the more expensive builds fund the R&D for the high end minifigures.
So for instance, this year release a $50 Rivendell midi build that comes with Elrond, next year do the same with Bara-Dur with Sauron.
Yes it would anger collectors who value exclusivity, but I care more about the general fan with only $50 to spend who is really pining to return to Middle Earth.
Great idea i agree
*Barad-Dûr
As long as it's the same figure that's available in the big set- unfair to those who spend £4-500 on a set then feel they have to buy all the small ones too- think Harry Potter, it's gotten ridiculous. Even the brickheadz having multiple Harry's in different costumes that you have to buy to get others 🙃
It would be great if Lego did LOTR battle packs, as they do with Star Wars and potentially some smaller builds, play-scale style. Or even "midi" scale or architecture scale sets.
But they've set precedent--the Shire, Minas Tirith, or even Rohan become the logic next choice, and at a scale similar to what they've done already. Unlike a Star Wars, I think that they have a much smaller base of things to design and sell with LOTR.
They've set precedent. Bring in Minas Tirith!
WE WANT MINAS MORGUL with the green light effect
Admittedly, I want a giant Shire with multiple Hobbit huts and grassy hills, but that doesn't seem to be a very LEGO thing to do, because the nature portions of sets tend to be minimal at best letting AFOL's create their own visions in that space
I think minas tirith would be amazing, but maybe do it in sections. You can start with the top section (with the white tree and buildings), then add a new lower section each year.
That would make it more affordable and keep the interest for longer (they can then stop making new levels if the interest dies out).
Collectors can then make it as big or small as you want.
I love your videos! I would really like a big minas tirith set in 2025, maybe 600 bucks for 6500 pieces could be possible.
Best thing I can think of would be midi-scale with micro-scale places and minifigure scale spots. Like a forced perspective type deal. I believe we’re going to get two more of these types of sets, ministereth and the shire (which should include figures from both the hobbit and lotr. We should get some smaller sets too, like Shelob or khazad-dum and Mt doom, possibly an orc forge.
I would like if Lego made clear translucent mini figures of Bilbo and Frodo.
Is this a thing that I missed in the films/books, or do you just think it would be cool?
@@CallumMinorto mimic the ring making them invisible
@@corbenalley8382 I feel incredibly embarrassed for forgetting that. I may have to resign as a LotR fan.
@@CallumMinorLord give me strength...
I would love to see Minas Tirith but built with many sets same as Hogwarts.
One set could be front gate with Grond and some Gondor soldiers, orcs and Battle Troll maybe
One set could be part of front wall with orc siege tower, with couple of Gondor soldiers and orcs ( if You buy many of those sets You could connect it with front gate set
One bigger set could be second level maybe, and the biggest set should be the top.....
We could also have set where Pippn sets fire, I could imagine dozens of sets tu put together to make as minifig scale Minas Tirith as possible, othervide it will be probably micro scale set.
It would be also nice to get Pellenor fields battle packs:
One set could be buildable Oliphant with some Harad archers and Harad leader and also 2 Rohirrim riders
One set could be Fell beast with Witch King, plus Eowyn Merry and Theoden, also some orc and buildable catapult
IIt would be the best way for more cheaper sets fot this solution, You can buy the sets You want to spend money on and build armies, or buy everything and have completed collection
That's an interesting idea, actually.
I thought it would be an interesting idea to build a Minas Tirith kind of like how they do Hogwarts castle. Make a bunch of sets where they all add into a massive build.
In this case, they could also make each set have 3 to 5 figs, so once you get everything to build Minas Tirith, you have a ton of figures to decorate the model.
The only problem I see here is that it'll be difficult to put everything together and make it look like it's a high-priced set while also keeping to a play focused set
One solution Lego could employ would be a medium size set which allows for different builds, like a 2-in-1 or 3-in-1 set…where those with a smaller budget could get a good build, and those with bank could buy two or three sets and expand the build by combining the sets.
This would cause a doubling of mini figures, but would probably work if they were army building figures.
I see you hint at this idea around @10:00
Prediction: Minas Tirith will consist of two different sets split down the middle (with the half interior view) allowing it to be combined into one massive build with the purchase of two units. Just like the Egyptian pyramids.
This appeals to people who are wanting the massive build option and those who can only afford half of one. (Yes this is a grab for more cash).
Fingers crossed we get some battle packs to appease the people who want more affordability, but it’s likely that premium figures (ie Faramir and Denethor will be locked behind those higher prices).
Battle packs would sell so well
I personally think the if LEGO brought back normal priced LOTR sets they would do much better than they think. I know the Ring of Power show was terrible, but the original movie was a huge hit. I can see that if they brought back more affordable LOTR sets they would do great. Might even have more profit from these sales than the ones they are getting with these bigger sets. I will keep my fingers crossed like the rest of you!
The problem I see with Minas Tirith is that you couldn't possibly fit minifigures without having something that could be the centerpiece of a convention: either you go microscale, or you do only a small section, like the top tier with the tree and Denethor's Hall. The Burrow would be much more fitting for the size they are aiming, either from The Hobbit with the 13 dwarves, or Bilbo's birthday from the LotR; scenes from Moria (the lake, Balin's tomb, Kazad-dum) or Lothlorien have also potential. Maybe the Prancing Pony...
Personally, I would like a nanoscale Minas Tirith, with the same final size (and cost) of the latest Hogwarts Ground set: not everyone has a rennaisance villa to showcase all these massive sets...
I think that they should release a helms deep set as the old one was just a wall and along side that should release cheap battle packs and smaller sets to help build up armies
I think one way to do it would be to go MicroFigure scale for Minas Tirith like the 650 dollar hogwarts and have alot of microfigures to put around the place and inclued say 4 big characters as minifigures like Gandalf the white and other characters that was a major part of that part fo the movie.
What you said about LOTR not being the big brand it was a decade or two ago being a reason they made its return like this and haven't given it full waves yet, trying to capitalize on one big sets' sales per year - I mean, the same is true of Harry Potter. The old movies are long done and the latest releases were controversial and far from a universal hit - EXACTLY the same situation as the LOTR franchise. And yet, they keep doing HP waves regularly, even recycling sets now for a second time that have been made already since it returned in 2018 - and it's working! I don't see anyone upset about it, they're happily buying it, just like Star Wars remakes. So I dunno if that idea holds up, Harry Potter feels like its a good bit worse than lord of the rings in terms of the state it's in right now and yet the legos are very successful sticking to only the old movies. Don't see why LOTR couldn't do that, HP is putting huge expensive sets out AND regular ones
They need to make diorama like how Star Wars is starting to do
To paraphrase John Lennon: "I'd like to ask your help: To the people in the cheaper seats, shake your 10-minute build sets. And the rest of you can just beam with pride over what you can afford".
Minas Tirith is the ONE set I want out of everything Lego could potentially do. And if they do it, it deserves to be big. Really big.
I've nothing against them releasing a smaller version for the cheapskates, but those of us who want the real thing should also be catered to.
I would find it hard to say no to a hobbiton set. But I do agree that they should mix it up and not only making huge set but create set of different sizes.
Its going to be whatever makes them the most money
I wish they'd do something at the scale of the Hogwarts Castle and Grounds for Minas Tirith so that it would be at a smaller Edale and smaller price but still look great. Yes it would not match the other sets, but continuing to do just one massive, expensive set each year seems crazy.
If they make a lotr battle pack with some soldiers or orcs or dwarves they would make a fortune
Minas would be amazing but id be worried it actually not be big enough. I think helms deep would be better fit.
Minas Tirith would make the most sense for another big LOTR set. I mean if you take Rivendell as representing the first film, Barad Dur representing the second, Minas Tirith would be perfect to represent the third film.
05:09 LEGO are a profit making company just like any other. They know this is the best way for them to make money. Because even the giant expensive sets still get snapped up even just for the figures. And sure a lot are getting parted out or the minifigures split and sold on from the set- but given that LEGO now owns Bricklink (one of the biggest sites for selling on Lego parts and minifigures) they don’t really care about people not liking giant sets because of the cost. Because there’s enough scalpers and resellers out there to still make them worth it.
And even with themes like Star Wars, gone are the days of cheap battle packs full of wanted figures. You don’t get a unique character with them anymore and they’re only going up in price, with some attempts to justify the increase being made by adding in builds that most don’t really want.
11:22 Ironic considering that is pretty much how those shots were done IRL. It is the same physical set in most of the shots rejigged, redressed and shot from slightly different angles to make you think it’s a new set, but it’s not. It’s the same one. 😂
Diese Karte in Bruchtal macht doch hinten und vorne keinen Sinn.
Warum steht der Turm von Isengart in Mordor, der Barad Dur aber beigab außerhalb?
It has to be Minas Tirith or Edoras. We need Ewoyn!!!
A 300$ Bag end, PLEASE!!!!
I hope we'll get some smaller LOTR sets...
I want Lorien, The Argonath and Bag End
I mean I want everything but those 3 are at the top
Would love lorien as well but ucs moria/khazad dum or erebor does it for me
@@manu1788 a giant moria diorama would be amazing (I mean that in the Avengers tower sense as in a full model with minifigs dotted around and Gandalf v balrog being the main centerpiece)
They could make 8 sets that you could put together to make Mina’s tirith. Lego had done it before
You look like brick science but older
In the piece count around Rivendell and barad dur, Minas tirith would be really challenging to not look very disproportionate
I can't think of a worse LoTR set than MT, it would just be a big blob of grey. They did fantastic with BD not making it just a big black tower but I'm not sure they could make MT that dimensionsal.
I'd love a RD scale Shire- with Gandalf's horse and cart
I think Minas Tirith would be best as a micro scale. There is NO WAY you can make it look amazing by making it minfig scale. It would look so off. I just hope Lego included a vast array of minifigures. Minifigures we need:
- Gandalf the White
- Denethor
- Gondor Soldier
- Pippin (Gondor armor)
- Faramir
- Theoden
- Rohan Soldier
- Eowyn (armor)
- Merry (Rohan Esquire)
- Witch King
- Gothmog
- Orc x4
- Haradrim x2
If the next LOTR set is Minis Tirith what is the GWP?😮
The white tree
Edoras would be neat
Yes please
Minis Tirith is probably the last huge Lego set they can milk for extreme high pricing before they can potentially finally start planning an initial small wave or affordable sets us normal people can afford 😂
2026 is our year for lord of the rings
I always wonder how people can actually 1. afford and 2. place this stuff in their homes. Anyone living in an apartment knows the struggle, but even in a comfy home you should have trouble finding a good place for these 1m tall ridiculous sets
@@bighatastreawell you can always go the route of getting a knockoff set. They are close in quality as long as you’re careful where you buy them from and with Lego price gouging it’s really hard to feel bad about not buying from them.
Hate to break it to you, but helms deep and orthanc could absolutely get redone, as well as bag end. I think we'll get these bigger sets for a while longer...
I want Minis Morgal with the Witchking and Nazgûl.
If they release a $1000 Minas Tirith set, biggest ever Lego set, I'd buy it within a second.....if it has a Denethor with tomatoes 😉
Minas Tirith imo is something that can only be done justice when done as big as possible. It should be the UCS millenium falcon of the LoTR line. I absolutely would love affordable/smaller/playscale sets, but Minas Tirith should not be one of them.
It deserves to be the biggest lego set to date imo. If your gonna do it big, do it right. If its going to be expensive, go all out.
Meanwhile, the playscale sets should be things appropriate for the size. A mumakil, battle packs, maybe even a proper fell beast etc.
It probably cost $900
@@CoReOmega make it $1000. Id pay for it honestly. It would be the crowning jewel of my lego display. Just do it justice is all I ask. Dont cut corners, give us a ton of minifigures.
Then make a bunch of playscale sets to appease others: amon hen, balrog, mumakil, grond, battle packs.
If they are smart about it, those sets could even be companion sets
@@JackSmith-ns1uqI couldn’t agree with you more. I’ve been saying I’d gladly shell out $1500 for a truly awesome Minas tirith
These mfs are NOT gonna bring the price down. They're gonna go all out on the details.
Let’s hope so.
@@moonshoes11 It's Lego. Have you seen their track record on these sets? Why the fuck would they drop the price and drop the detail?
@@moshymosh
Nah man, I’m saying I hope they go all out on the details.
"We're not ready yet" = the consumers aren't "ready" yet.
Get children hooked on a branded idea, then deliberately create scarcity while waiting for them to grow up with jobs before selling them their nostalgia in the form of massively overpriced products.
Pretty disgusting when you think about it.
Great points for and against a Minas Tirith. I've purchased both LoTR sets from the past two years, and I would love to see it, but it's hard to do Minas Tirith justice.
Micro scale would not really work, as both sets have set a precedent for minifigure scale. They could take a section of the city, but it would just be unepic. It's a tough problem, but if there's a third LoTR set, there are quite large shoes to fill.
What would be completely distinct in style would be sets in the price range and size of the Indiana jones sets
Not a burning shire. The palantir is showing the Tree of Kings in Minas Tirith. A call back to Return of the King! Minas Tirith would be amazing 😍
just as i shared a few days ago! very glad to hear you share the same. May the road go ever on and on...
minas tirith 2025
hobbiton 2026
worst case its the other way around
I'd honestly prefer to get Helms Deep next, as we've had a set from Fellowship and now return of the king. But I wouldn't complain at all if we got Minas Tirith.
Great Video! Minas Tirith is definitely going to be difficult for LEGO to design!
I don't mind UCS sets but we need some smaller sets and battle packs
I don't think they can do Minas Tirith justice, so I don't think they should do that - not as a complete version of the city anyway. Maybe they could do the central part with the Tower of Ecthelion, the White Tree and the big walkway. And just forego the tiered city beneath (and the hall of kings). Alternatively; focus on the Hall of Kings and make 'the Citadel of Minas Tirith', but nothing else. But the thing is; whatever they choose to do; some people will be disappointed.
I would personally much rather see a nice depiction of (a part of) Hobbiton or a nicely detailed Prancing Pony.
If LEGO want to carry on making large builds from LOTR, they need to build sets to fall at most within 100-150$ range. Micro or Mini scale builds of larger things with some minifigs for display, just like the new smaller Star Wars ships under $100. No one has the display space for both Rivendell or Barad-Dur, let alone the near $1,000 to have both chunks of plastic. I want sets to display on my desk, or on a bookcase or on a shelf in my room, something at a scale suitable for display and doesn't command an entire dedicated plinth in my home.
Had the current sets been under $150 each, and knowing there's a third now, I'd have bought all 3. But as it stands, I've refused to buy any current $300/400+ LOTR sets
I feel like Lego has been appealing too much to adult collectors. There needs to be a healthy balance. Lego was created for kids and ultimately Lego should make sets that appeal to both older and younger fans. No kid can afford a $400 set. Heck most adults can’t justify spending that much on a set. Realistically there should be a $10-100 dollar range of sets like we had in 2012.
They did an amazing job with lotr and the hobbit with those limitations in mind.
Where did you get the footage of the extensions for barad dur
It needs to get more than 10 figures if they are doing it, the previous one should have included Shelob and more figures.
I don’t think it needed Shelob. But they certainly could’ve easily included more orcs to bulk things out, even if they only had simple arm swaps and face prints to make them look different. 🤷
Oh boy can't wait for my two Gondorian soldier minifigs with exclusive helmet molds that'll never ever appear in any other set again!
Minas Tirith is too massive to ever make for a satisfying minifigure-scaled LEGO set. I'd prefer the royal keep of Edoras, the capital of Rohan. It's smaller and more compact a building, making it perfect for a $200-300 set. Plus, it could include a number of characters who've never gotten any figs, like Theoden, Eowyn, Eomer, and Grima Wormtongue. And if you don't want a LotR set, it can easily be repurposed for regular Castle and Viking minifigures.
Did anyone have a thought that the next set maybe from the Hobbit e.g. the Lonely mountain or Erobor, or smaug himself. Idk, just an idea, but it might be unpopular considering lego's production of dragons have been so high. They did release a Dundeons and dragons Dragon few months ago. But it would be cool to see a buildable smaug maybe not now though
My max to spend on a Lego set is 300$
I really want the barad dur and rivendell and the others ucs sets from this theme that eventually will get released
But spending this much money on just plastic it’s to damn crazy😭
I will wait for the play sets or those a little bit more expensive (max 300$) from these theme
Even 300$ it’s to damn much
For me It’s really need to be worthy to spend this money
On my wishlist up to 200$ it’s the new great hall and the the burrow collectors edition
The rest is under 130$
If people didn’t spend this much money on a set Lego would low down the damn prices
As much as I’d love Mina’s Tirith, I don’t think it would work all that well as a minifig compatible thing. They’ve have to do something similar to what they did with Hogwarts to do it properly. I feel that Helm’s Deep or Bag End would make much more sense for the pseudo play scale they’re trying to stick with. And as someone who has Bag End from 2012 as one of their white whale sets, I’d love to get another version of it in the newer style. They could even make it similar to the layout of Rivendell, with the hobbit hole on one side, and then Bilbo’s party on the other. Honestly, I just want an excuse to get Rosie and that dude who’s always scowling 😂
I wouldn't mind seeing a set for the bridge of khazad dum or morannon (the black gate), or even one with 9 men, 7 dwarves, 3 elves, and sauron with the poem
I disagree. I believe there is a huge following for LOTR. Rivendell last year went on backorder and did so this year too. Also the Tower of Barur Dur went on backorder. They aren't coming up with a whole bunch of cheap sets because they don't want to oversaturate the market. They want people to feel like that have something special. I don't know what is in the works for Minas Tirith but so far they've brought it!
If it's not going to be wildly affordable then I really could care less about the theme returning.
WE NEED CHEAPER SETS, if it only came back for D2C sets then they'll run out of stuff fast and fans will run out of space.
Balin’s tomb in Moria!
Just give us a mumakil instead. They would never be able to do a proper scaled minas tirith at a good price. But a mumakil at around 300$ would be really cool.
I hope they keep going in this direction with large epic sets. I don't want smaller ones. Most LOTR fans are 30+. We have money :)
They could do half of Minas Tirith as a set (split vertically), then hardcore fans could get two and build the second one mirrored?
I wish the minifigures that may come in minas tirith be just as good as the ones in the video game. Looking at you, gondor armored pippin!
I think one approach could be dividing Minas Tirith into two main parts. Buying one set will get you, let’s say 9,000-10,000 pieces (for $1,000), all of which will be used for the main building. The same pieces could also be used for the second part (if you disassemble the main build) with some left over. That way, fans get to enjoy each part of the iconic LOTR scene, one at a time. For the diehard fans, it isn’t a stretch for them to spend 2k to get something they really want. For those that want the whole thing, but don’t have / don’t want to spend that much all at once can buy one at a time (say, in a year). I think it’s doable if LEGO stretch out the theme and make them available for sale for 3-4 years. They’re going to bank a lot of $ just selling this set alone (assuming they did a reasonably good job on the design). Even better if they have two waves of smaller LOTR sets, battle packs at $10/20/50/100 during. It will be hot. Perhaps even rival the sales of themes like SW / ICON.
We need the Bride of Khazad Dúm as a set; i have built my own custom Balrog, but we need it in a real set
People wanted Bardor BIGGER???????????????????????????????
I know it sounds funny but when i went to the Lego Store i was a little bit like...mmm...could've been taller.
@@MrAgambleas it stands, I need to find a new shelf for it! It’s taller than anything I can currently display.
if mines tirith is micro scale we riot
UMMMM ACTUALLY ORTHANC DOESNT HAVE YET A SET, UMMM IT'S THE TOWER OF ISENGARD THANK YOUUUU
I’d be happy with the front gate of minas tirith as long as it means I don’t have to miss out
why not just make big sets but its a bunch of modular smaller sets
Meduseld would be nice.
Why not just do the whole of middle earth in one set and price us all out forever?
Well we dont only need new lotr sets but a new lego lotr game aswell.
Minas morgul would be awesome
I just want a Balrog vs Gandalf set soooo bad
I’ve heard it - Minas Tirith next year
Great video thank you.
i am so excited!, but its gonna cost $600-800
I really want a Mummakil set.
Argonath... That is all.
I hope we get Weathertop
some of these locations would be better suited for a micro scale set or something more like architecture.
It needs to be micro scale, no way around it, kind of like the recent Notre Dame set
I agree. BUT, they've got to put out one last ginormous set.
I hope Minas Tirath would be microscale like Hogwarts Castle and Grounds so they can have lots of details, but it won’t cost a thousand dollars
Easier to display and carry as well
I agree and I think that microscale is the only way that they could do it justice.
I say definitely go nanoscale with this.
Maybe mix in some minifig scale interiors accessible and viewable from behind, a little like the Star Destroyer or death Star sets. These huge sets aren't just incredibly expensive, they also require significant display space in people's homes. If you're a big enough LOTR fan to want a Minas Tirith, you probably are already displaying one of the two big LOTR sets already.
Distinct? Are you married? My mrs cracked up when she saw the display model and and pointed it out was just like her disney castle. I'm up to bag 3. The question for me is, elves, bad guys, check. Humans? Boring. So will this set be awesome enough to inspire getting it anyway. Also, is what they're trying with lord of the rings simply selling you an entire wave in one set? Depending on the day these lotr sets conveniently cost as much as a full wave of play scale sets... EDIT: Don't worry about the scale. I restored our ucs hogwarts castle recently and finally came to warm happiness with lego micro scale. It can be great.
It would have to be so huge that the price would make it cheaper to buy a Jag, or they would make it cheap but it would be awful. The scale of Minas tirith would make doing the set impossible. There is a castle in the 5th series of bricklink called "The King Returns" that has the look of Minas Tirith and its 4000 pieces and it looks like a quarter of Minas Tirith.
I’d want to see the Shire.