The Pesky Poplar
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- After the beavers gave up on felling a Poplar, I decided to fish the job for them, taking a large Red Oak, a Red Maple, and an Ash for firewood. The Poplar was as uncooperative for me as it was for the beavers.
I’m very happy to see a video from you Terry. I’ve missed seeing content from you. You are one of my key instructors when it comes to tree felling. I have learned a lot from you and it makes me feel good that not everything goes according to plan, even for you! That means everyone needs to follow safe chainsaw practices when in the woods. Be safe my friend!
Thank you, Harv!
As I age, my "escape velocity" method dithers with each passing season.
Decided to invest in the "actually knowing what you're doing" method.
Unlike the former, my latter decision seems well-placed.
Thank you Mr. Hale. Learned a wealth of life-saving information in this video.
I definitely sympathize about the escape velocity situation. They say one never forgets how to ride a bike. I needed to run the other day and it appears you can forget how to run. I'm considering trying to relearn.
I’ve been cutting trees for 40 years... (that doesn’t mean I’m an expert) I study each tree like I’m cramming for a test. Sometimes it’s a true/false test, others are multiple guess... and then there’s the essay test trees. Looks like you had all three types of test on this project. Although you didn’t get 100% on each test, you passed with flying colors!
Much respect Terry... I’m pretty sure you outscored me on this one!
Excellent analogy!
Glad to see you posting videos again
Thanks, John. Looking at the wrong side of 68, but I hope to do a bunch more.
What a great felling video! Terry you are one of the most articulate UA-cam providers for the amateur logger that I have found! I compare felling a tree to landing an airplane. You plan, prepare your equipment, study the current environment, decide on a go or no go, and if it’s a go , do it ! And right after, you make that final decision, your nervous system is on overload. Your palms are sweating and there is an internal shaking that only goes away when the plane/tree has landed safely.
Thanks, Stan! Nice analogy. I wouldn't be too surprised to learn that the rate of bad outcomes was similar.
Great to see another tree video from you Terry! Your videos are more scientific than others and very helpful to keep us safe. I had a large leaner that had a huge amount of rot and was tangled in the canopy and somewhat near power lines -- very dangerous. I watched your videos and was able to safely and accurately take it down.
That definitely sounds dangerous. Glad you were able to figure out a process to get it down without mishap.
It's great to see a new video from you, Terry. And it's a really interesting one too -- not just in your creative methods to (try to) get some problematic trees to fall the way you want them to, but even more so in your thoughts about beavers' long term planning. I pay a lot of attention to beaver activity in my area, and it's often been my impression that they just aren't always the smartest little fellows. Like putting weeks of effort into gnawing more than 50% through a big red maple tree, and then just leaving it to become a standing dead tree. Lack of attention span, simple forgetfulness, change in "management policy," or something deeper? Thanks for giving me something to think about!
I, too, have been bothered to see an abandoned job. "Oh, man! They put in all that energy and got nothing for it!" I sometimes wonder if they decide it just looks too dangerous and choose to just waddle away.
Terry Hale I wonder if they could possibly just be wearing down their “too long” teeth on the hardwoods? My experience with animals tells me they don’t do many things without a good reason.
I am so jealous of this guy's big piece of woodland homestead and even more his ability of the upkeep.
I grew up overseas and have seen a lot of abject poverty. I am keenly aware of how fortunate I have been. I often consider how wonderful it is to have water coming out of the faucet or lights that turn on.
Great to see what happens in this video, a lot can be learned just from watching the results. I have been using plunge cuts on my poplar tree removal project. The plunge cut really allows the hinge to be defined just like you want it before the tree starts to fall. I have been using the trigger or back strap to my advantage to give me time to get wedges set before the tree starts to fall. I have seen the vertical plunge cut in some other videos and may explore that with some of the trees that I have left to cut. I like how the hinge stayed intact for the full fall, which can be useful for trees with 'bad' lean.
Great video Terry! I really enjoyed your series on tree felling techniques and scenarios, glad to see you back!
Thanks, AL! Still doing my engineering and programming gig, so it's tough to find the time to do videos. I hope to do more. Thanks for the support.
Terry, your vids are helpful. they equate with a public good. thank you. as a volunteer trail manager for about 20 miles of public hiking trail, like you safety is always #1 - for me and all hikers. I too often use ropes and a pulley to brace a trunk and protect me, especially hangers. Also, I am often in beaver areas, to place Wood Duck nesting boxes {in winter it's easiest) and bog boardwalkways; in this vid, I learned things about the bogs that I hadn't learned from many other sources. very cool, sir. well done.
Thanks, Jim. Sounds like wonderful volunteer work you're doing. Very tiring, but also very rewarding and in beautiful surroundings.
I can imagine the beavers critiquing your work, as you did theirs 😄. Nice job! Not according to plan, but such is life
I would bow to their evaluation.
@@terryhale9006 I don't know. Their face cuts are pretty sloppy. . .
@@jeffreyrubish347 I cut them a lot of slack. They have to work with the tools they've got.
Wonderful work, and explanation. Love how that strip of bark kept the tree alive. My guess was no kickback. I have had several trees fracture that were dead as they hit obstructions on the way down.
Nice to see your videos again. Thank you so much and be safe too.
Thank you, Methee!
Great job as always
Thanks, Wooly.
Thank you for another great and informative video. I VERY MUCH enjoy your presentations.
Thanks, Bud!
Very glad to see another of your interesting videos Terry. Not only is the video educational and entertaining, but as someone who has no contact with you besides your videos, it's good to know you're still alive and well. This life is so unpredictable and even though I don't know you I would be deeply saddened by your departing.
Thanks, Bernie. My Dad died this May at 97, but I really doubt I will make it nearly that long. I expect to get at least five more years, but no idea beyond that. I'll let you know if I croak. ; )
Thanks for the excellent videos. Love the way you solve problems.
This is the best channel on UA-cam ever
great video I always learn from you. My lil brother is new to cutting trees and we both are old etc. I have told him to watch your videos you can learn so much Keep em coming thanks
Thanks, Mike. My rate has definitely slowed down, But I have some more planned.
Another great video, Terry. Happy to see you back!
Thanks, B!
wholesome beaver man does it again
Great video. Thank you for all you do.
Another entertaining and educational video. I enjoyed the audience participation portion. I guessed right after I saw the wedge cut. Before I saw it I thought it would kick back.
Good call, Rick.
Yuliana guesses no kick back. I guess kick back just a little bit... 2.5 feet. Great video! Love you!
Congrats, Yuliana!
I've never seen beavers girdle a tree without the intention of eating it, that's crazy! Great observations.
I find them to be pretty impressive thinkers.
Great tips, I dont' feel so bad about my tree top tangles now that I see the expert get the occasional hang up or surprise move by peskey trees.
No shame there.
Awesome video 👍👌. Keep them coming.
Thank you, Wayne. I hope to makew a few more this coming year.
hi there don't know what to say that many others haven't already written . another good one thank you john
Was thinking about you the other day glad to see a new video
Thanks, Josh. I hope I can get back in gear when Spring gets here.
Welcome back Mr. Hale, it's good to see you again, and hope upstate New York holds a nice winter in store for you (from a Chatham woodland owner).
Thanks, JR. It's been pretty tolerable so far, but there is always February to endure. I hope it treats you gently, as well.
Nice work Terry.
Thanks, Richard!
Thank you for the education and the entertainment
Thanks, Rob. I appreciate the appreciation.
Great videos! Thanks for sharing!
Nicely Done !
Hangup or break-thru? Also depends on rate of fall. Recently I expected a tree to continue to fall to the ground, but it hung up fairly high. The reason seemed to be the tree did not have enough momentum when it encountered the upper branches of the uncut vertical trees. I had not 'chased the cut' and stopped cutting the moment I saw falling movement. That resulted in a leisurely, slow fall and resultant hangup.
Nice to see you post again. Have a great 2020.
yay i guessed right. I had one pretty big cherry tree snap right in the middle last year during a storm, but it still held on pretty good, it was shaped like a triangle. I think it wasn't exactly a tornado, but a down burst/ microburst or whatever it's called.. Did lots of damage in the area. The area that it broke still had a lot of holding wood, just a bit twisted. Of course using a machine on it is cheating, but it would of been a interesting one to take down with just a saw and a winch. It was a little sketchy. Still have pictures of all the damage it did, entire tree's rooted and making big holes in the ground, and the rooted part being like 6-8 maybe even 10 feet up in the air. Pretty crazy to look up at. and the holes they made in the ground.
Congrats, Ioseb! It's a shame all those trees got nailed
. A good part of my summer was spent dealing with around two dozen trees that got blown down across one of my trails. All but two were large pines and I don't like to use those for home heating, so it was basically just tedious clearing.
very nice
Hey, Dan! Nice to hear from you. Hope all is well with you.
Don't know you personally but was very concerned for the health of the weakened woodman. Hope all is well and a Happy New Year to you and yours.
Thanks, Louis. Still hanging in there and hoping that, by some miracle, I will have better stamina next year. Learning to live with the disappointment and to be happy for what I have left.
Good to see a recent video, Terry. I sure appreciate them. My guess was wrong, but I am curious to know what you thought the oak would do when cut. I would guess fall to the ground given you proceeded to cut it the way you did. The deeper notch probably helped keep it falling through the limbs.
I was actually hoping for a kick-back, just for demonstration purposes. Though they are rare, people should be aware of that dangerous possibility when other trees are present to argue about incursions. If I had thought about it, I hope I would have decided the oak's height, massive weight, distance from the other trees, and dead, brittle limbs would have made a kick-back unlikely
My guess is that the dead oak will kick back a little as the two living trees resist much of the oak's fall. Now, let me resume the video and find out what happens. Oh well, turns out my guess was wrong.
I don't honestly remember whether I made a guess. Given the massive weight of the oak and the distance for it to accelerate before striking the other trees, I should have expected the oak's kinetic energy to be overpowering. I didn't really present enough information for a good guess to be made. My apologies.
Straight to ground
I like how you dropped that ash, and showed the hinge as it dropped.....ash always scares me, as it splits easily....and a leaner is particularly dangerous....
mike dee Good point about the ash. We have some ash that we planted 30 years ago that now have to come down so I’ll keep your observation in mind.
It did behave a bit brittly. I've seen some pines behave quite flexibly.
@@terryhale9006 I did see it try to split and barberchair....and I believe it would have if you hadnt made that vertically wide hinge and distribute the forces over a wider area......gotta try that this summer...I know just the ash I want to drop...
Great to see a new video Terry! As an avid woodworker, I was looking at those trees as beautiful lumber not firewood... Seems a shame to just burn it but I gather the swamp made it too difficult to retrieve those as millable lumber?
I absolutely agree! I've wanted to buy a band-saw mill for 40 years, but could never justify the cost for how much I thought I would actually use it. When they came out with their $5000 "Weekend Warrior" model, I was really tempted. I have some 18" Black Cherry that really makes me wish I had a mill. Maybe when I retire.
@@terryhale9006, Have you looked into hiring someone to mill the logs for you onsite? If you're like me though, you want your own bandsaw mill but before you pick a mill check out a UA-camr "Out of the Woods". He is an excellent resource for the beginner and pro Sawyer alike. He talks about all kinds of important decisions about buying a mill as well as details to maximize grain and or yield. He shows projects as well as slabbing some huge black walnut and not so well known wood species. His video production is absolutely top notch.and creates fantastic videos.
Don't let that cherry become firewood! :)
I guessed wrong! Have you ever considered putting on seminars? I live near Syracuse and would be interested in some of your guidance.
That's awfully nice of you to suggest, but the only seminars I have given in Syracuse are on roadside design (guide rail, etc.) for highways.
Beavers: master woodsmen. Talk about forest management! Aren’t you lucky to have their family in your forest.
Absolutely thrilled!
Terry Hale I’m green with envy.
Great practical information, thanks. Also what saw and bar are you using there Terry? The bar appears long but the saw looks pretty light. Of course it could be that you've got some good upper body strength going on there.
I still have pretty good strength, but not much stamina left. I actually have four different saws and swap what I'm using based on the size of what I'm cutting. No sense lugging around a big saw if you're just trimming off small branches.
I've no idea what it's going to do, but it's very near the end of the vid, so my guess is it came down cleanly, without personal injury. Otherwise there would have been lots to discuss and vid would have been longer. lol.
LOL Flawless logic!
The end: death by poplar. Details at 6.💀💀
At a certain age, Death begins to be more acceptable.
Where do you live Terry?
New York State, a bit southeast of the Adirondack mountains.
@@terryhale9006 It looks amazing. It is great to see you respect the beavers.
just rewached your felling wedges video ! USE YOUR HAMMER ! take care of your feet !!! (kicking Log)
Were you a teacher?
Thanks for the compliment! I never taught as a regular teacher, but I am old enough now that I regularly get engineers asking me for advice or my opinion. It gives me a very good feeling when they understand a problem and the issues with the possible solutions. My goal is to give them enough information and insight that they can make a good decision on their own.
@@terryhale9006 well you speak very well ,indepth about all aspects of the situation & mathematics that are over my head but I'm digging all the info & learn alot. I'm in ny to ,if you ever need a tree cut down with a 44 mag let me know ;) high 5 brother
Yuliana wins. :-(
Please nobody cut trees down the way this guy is cutting his back cut this is not good instruction it is incorrect you do not make your back cut lower than your front
wrong
Someone will get injured
You are correct. Sadly, my balance has become bad enough that both my notch cut and my back cut were way off.
Stay safe
Nicely Done !
Hangup or break-thru? Also depends on rate of fall. Recently I expected a tree to continue to fall to the ground, but it hung up fairly high. The reason seemed to be the tree did not have enough momentum when it encountered the upper branches of the uncut vertical trees. I had not 'chased the cut' and stopped cutting the moment I saw falling movement. That resulted in a leisurely, slow fall and resultant hangup.
Nice to see you post again. Have a great 2020.
Thanks, IHS. Yes, speed of the fall and the mass of the tree. Have a good year yourself.