The EXACT Tournament That Changed Hungrybox. (No Not The Crab One)

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  • @MarioSMG64
    @MarioSMG64 Рік тому +526

    This, the crab, and EmpLemon’s documentary are probably the 3 biggest things that changed the public perception of HBox.

    • @itspaulgustavson
      @itspaulgustavson Рік тому +29

      Bro this vid literally came out an hour ago chill

    • @Yee-Haw_Bird
      @Yee-Haw_Bird Рік тому +114

      @@itspaulgustavson Talking about the tournament itself rather than the video.

    • @maxlimit9129
      @maxlimit9129 Рік тому +21

      that and his shift towards Juantent creation

    •  Рік тому +1

      @@maxlimit9129 What is Juantent?

    • @sharkronical
      @sharkronical Рік тому +18

      @ Juan content

  • @Flying-Skitty
    @Flying-Skitty Рік тому +134

    Jigglypuff does have Rollout as a grounded mobility option. It is very effective at charging towards the blast zone in the most efficient manner

  • @eeveewithcoffee9554
    @eeveewithcoffee9554 Рік тому +84

    I’ve been enjoying Melee but through video essays like this and analysis and you’re a huge part of it. So thank you and keep up the amazing work

  • @rannynihilius8481
    @rannynihilius8481 Рік тому +59

    I still feel like Hbox from 2017- early 2020 was on another level compared to everyone else.
    Till now there hasn't been an as dominant player who made the game look solved like Prime Armada and Hbox did.
    While he still performs good i think the focus on content creation, his coach getting a job at Google and generally playing way less Melee made him a lesser player.
    Don't get me wrong he still is capeable of beating everyone but besides Cody and Zain being his biggest problems i think he is the far biggest limiter on his potential.
    If you watch how cold and unsolveable he played in 2019 and how effortlessly he made other top 10 players look like 2nd class to him and compare this to now when people doubt him on every match it's really different.
    Looking at his Summit 9 and his most recent performances don't convince that everyone just adapted it's more so that Hbox lost that mental edge he had for his dominant reign.

    • @yurplethepurple2064
      @yurplethepurple2064 Рік тому +14

      Yeah I think you’re correct, but also I believe that hungrybox’s switch to content primarily was probably a good one for both his reputation and general life quality ngl

    • @rannynihilius8481
      @rannynihilius8481 Рік тому +9

      @@yurplethepurple2064 i agree with that too and i'm glad that he's doing better now.
      Your own well being is always more important than some counter productive videogame.

    • @yurplethepurple2064
      @yurplethepurple2064 Рік тому +1

      @@rannynihilius8481 fs

    • @samuelbrown1283
      @samuelbrown1283 4 місяці тому

      I heard that he is doing this thing where he is going to play only Melee for like 90 days

  • @szyl
    @szyl Рік тому +46

    I think the emplemon video honestly was the main drivers for the court of public opinion, many people like myself only hear about a handful of sets of melee mainly through videos like this

    • @ChalerYT
      @ChalerYT  Рік тому +32

      yeah i think the emp lemon video defo gave hbox a big boost of like casual fans but I think specifically in the melee community the crab and this were bigger for changing the attitude towards him

    • @szyl
      @szyl Рік тому +7

      @@ChalerYT i mean the crab definitely did wonders too, first time I'd heard about him in ages and it made me feel bad for him

  • @pkjamming
    @pkjamming Рік тому +37

    One thing I would add is that puff’s wavedash is actually really good! Her low profile allows her to go under lots of moves.

  • @maxlimit9129
    @maxlimit9129 Рік тому +78

    The other thing is that the pandemic forced him to shift toward being a beloved Juantent creator

    • @stus2159
      @stus2159 Рік тому

      Also not being able to look at people's controller to see what way they were DI'n , because of online tournaments post covid.

  • @joshuwasha
    @joshuwasha Рік тому +38

    Was watching this and didn’t realize my little brother Jerami would be making an appearance. I know you were in Jerami’s last vid, but it didn’t even cross my mind that he would make an appearance here. Glad to see the collaboration.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph Рік тому +1

      My my. Keeping everyone on their toes

  • @Y4LDA
    @Y4LDA Рік тому +9

    I was around in 2017 and 2018 for HBOX's dominance and I watched matches during highschool.
    During that time, I played Puff in Super Smash Flash 2 and i would watch hbox for tips on how to play her better. Watching Hbox made me get into this game and has kept me around. From him I learned about mang0 and the other gods, as well as their predecessors. And ive followed melee into its present since. Even after all these years and having dropped puff as my main, I still hold the highest regard for Hbox. Between him and Mang0, its hard to choose who my favorite player is. If i had one choice, i would say my favorite player is Justin "Plup" McGrath

  • @ericborczuk135
    @ericborczuk135 Рік тому +7

    Only thing keeping hbox from winning vs Lucky is that he input a name, sheik's up b is so much easier to read when the name doesn't disappear :P

  • @ThirdXavier
    @ThirdXavier Рік тому +28

    leffen is so insufferable lol, that chart is one of the most annoying things i've ever seen.

    • @samuelbrown1283
      @samuelbrown1283 4 місяці тому +1

      I couldn't tell what was on that chart

  • @MrKynzer
    @MrKynzer Рік тому +5

    Was my favorite player for a long time, his run at evo being the most emotional I have been in any tourney, and my favorite to this day

  • @NiekloLaarman
    @NiekloLaarman Рік тому +9

    Great video yet again. Chaler, you are killing it. Cheers from the Netherlands

  • @Natnizer
    @Natnizer Рік тому +40

    It’s insane that so many people said Hbox was carried when he was the only jigglypuff anywhere near his level. If it’s so easy, then you do it 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @hardnewstakenharder
      @hardnewstakenharder Рік тому +18

      "I could pick Puff and win endless tournaments and tens of thousands but my Melee integrity is too high so I pick Fox."

    • @affrun11
      @affrun11 Рік тому +1

      Some people like fun lol

    • @daveski7
      @daveski7 Рік тому +4

      @@affrun11 cope

  • @RobSomeone
    @RobSomeone Рік тому +6

    For me it was when he opened up about his father in the middle of his Heel Box era.

  • @mutedknght
    @mutedknght Рік тому +15

    Always a pretty big hbox defender even bc cause frankly leffen is ALWAYS on that cope and for some reason post-ban everyone collectively forgot. The 20XX era was dog water and im so glad we're well past it.

  • @EmptyHand49
    @EmptyHand49 Рік тому +6

    Damn it's crazy how the Melee community loved Leffen and hated Hubgrybox

    • @x9x9x9x9x9
      @x9x9x9x9x9 Рік тому +4

      The thing that made me stop being a fan of leffen was him spreading those lies about M2K during the melee me too movement or whatever we want to call that period.

    • @samuelbrown1283
      @samuelbrown1283 4 місяці тому

      ​@@x9x9x9x9x9 what did that mf say?

    • @x9x9x9x9x9
      @x9x9x9x9x9 4 місяці тому

      @@samuelbrown1283 said he was going around and jerkin off on people and their belongings or something like that.

  • @johnhames2520
    @johnhames2520 Рік тому +3

    Jerami was a great addition to this vid, great work all around!

  • @astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
    @astupidlylongnamethatstoolong Рік тому +7

    Ah yes, the well known eras, the 5 gods era, bc and ac.

  • @TaleOfTheToaster
    @TaleOfTheToaster Рік тому +1

    Genuinely never knew about this, cheers lad

  • @veggie4876
    @veggie4876 Рік тому +3

    Great video, love the upload consistency

  • @Blundabus1337
    @Blundabus1337 Рік тому +5

    I find it, odd, how Hungrybox, considered the last true god of smash, is considered worse than a sub 100 player when he plays a secondary.
    Didnt mango destroy somebody with a character he never played before when he was on top? Its so weird to me.

  • @lotsofantsonyou1293
    @lotsofantsonyou1293 Рік тому

    inb4 you blow up. watched a few videos of yours and im hooked, both because editing style and content.

  • @jebril
    @jebril Рік тому +4

    Im convinced Slime hates Hbox more than even Leffen lol. I have no clue why.

    • @Supertaldo916
      @Supertaldo916 Рік тому +5

      They probably don’t get along very well. Many people in the community have strong opinions about Hbox, people that have spent years around him, so I don’t think it’s entirely just blind hate. That being said, that whole bunch (Slime, Lud etc.) seem to me to be massive jack asses, and Hbox seems to have taken a Gigachad approach to his persona after a while. My best guess is Hbox isn’t the most likable guy, Slime is a toxic POS manchild about it, Hbox doesn’t take his shit and isn’t fazed about it, making Slime not like him even more.

  • @alfredsrensen1277
    @alfredsrensen1277 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for making a great video Shallot! Keep up the good work ❤

  • @dirtsquids9854
    @dirtsquids9854 Рік тому +1

    Nobody in melee deserves my subscription more than you atm, keep it up!

    • @user-sm3pp8tb1y
      @user-sm3pp8tb1y Рік тому

      Turndownforwalt is also pretty good if you haven't checked him out but for sure Chaler is killing it rn

  • @rockyino99
    @rockyino99 Рік тому +7

    so what you mention in the begining about puff, i call that type of character a "aerial dash dancer"
    you see alot more of these in ultimate which forced me to categorize them as it helped me understand playing against them in neutral to realize they are essentially doing what im doing on the ground (weaving, moving) just in the air

  • @heldon7951
    @heldon7951 Рік тому

    Big respect for the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky music at the end 👍

  • @dfpelino
    @dfpelino Рік тому

    I saw the crab incident live, and I gotta say that happening is what made the community start to be a lot nicer to Hbox. It didn't change him at all, but the people watching him.

  • @tacolordc
    @tacolordc Рік тому +2

    If you could automatically win by spamming puff back air like some people will have you believe, melee would’ve never been accepted as a serious e-sport

  • @MrKynzer
    @MrKynzer Рік тому +6

    Even if people hate it, I still think hbox has more of claim for being the goat rather than mango, even tho that's armada title
    Don't think someone will ever be able to replicate his results, specially now that the skillbar is so high

    • @coffeewithginseng3812
      @coffeewithginseng3812 Рік тому +2

      Armada first, Hbox second, Mang0 third in that order.

    • @MrKynzer
      @MrKynzer Рік тому

      @@coffeewithginseng3812 absolutely

    • @Big_Trev
      @Big_Trev Рік тому +1

      People just have an infatuation with mango that clouds their judgement. It’s a fact that hbox had inarguably one of the 2 most dominant stretches in the history of melee, has the most major wins, and probably has the most consistent longevity of any player. Mango has an argument since he started a bit earlier, but I believe it wasn’t until just recently that hbox missed his first top 8 of an offline major since 2012. People just don’t want to give credit since he plays puff

    • @MrKynzer
      @MrKynzer Рік тому

      @@Big_Trev ye

  • @pppoopoo1811
    @pppoopoo1811 Рік тому +3

    7:20 crazy how to be a top player for 3 years u gotta be a top player

  • @xLuluLychee69
    @xLuluLychee69 Рік тому +1

    Who knows the song that’s played at 8:41? I swear i heard it before in a JRPG or something.

    • @poppybangbang
      @poppybangbang Рік тому

      its the final boss theme of mario and luigi bowsers inside story!

  • @amandapalmer8648
    @amandapalmer8648 Рік тому +1

    I havent watched the video yet but I think it was Big House 7. IMO That was a massive changing point for Hbox. It is one of the saddest wins of all time. No one is clapping except for like 1 guy and Crunch. Hbox turns around to the crowd and looks more defeated than Plup. I think that is the moment Hbox decided he didn't want to be the bad guy at the top. I am going to watch the video then edit this as this is a subject I have oddly studied a fair bit as I find Hbox one of the most interesting people. Not hbox himself but hbox as a figure and how the community views them.
    Okay after watching this wasn't really talked about. Anyways, this is going to be long and filled with bad grammar. I am sorry I am slightly intoxicated and its late.
    When I started playing Melee in 2018 I joined the scene and quickly learned a few things about the top players. Mango is Sick, Leffen is actually an awful person, and dont cheer for Hbox. As time went on I saw the first 2 "rules" and they amde sense but the third was confusing to me. "Why does everyone hate hbox?" is something I decided to try and answer. I came across the rumors of him being a bad guy but they had been proven to be wrong and just lies spread by leffen. Then I came across the "he doesn't play friendlies" thing. But since he was the only Puff in the top 20 it makes sense to not want to give everyone free intel on how to play against you. If he was a Fox or Marth main I would feel different about this. Then I came across the last thing. His lame campy playstyle. Its literally the only legitimate reason people had. There are other more personal reasons like Hbox is loud or he has a punchable face but that varys from person to person. Eventually I realized it came down to Leffen constantly being toxic and spewing hatred at hbox that made the community feel alright about hating hbox. And yes his playstyle was super obnoxious. It ruined top 8s IMO. And then him always being in grands got old real quick as we want fast paced melee.
    When I started playing you just didn't really see or hear anyone cheering for hbox. There might be a couple of people in the crowd and a dozen in stream chat but that was it. I think a lot of people liked hbox but were afraid to say it. Then Ultimate came out. Hbox started making ultimate content and gained a following of new players who hadn't been exposed to the past and somewhat toxic melee environment. Eventually these people trickled over into melee and just stayed hbox fans. So people started cheering for him and I think this made those silent fans start coming out and openly cheering for the guy. Then the crab incident happened. This of course instantly boosted public opinion of hbox. Somewhere along this period hbox realized that he wanted to have fans and I think he knew if he played campy it would drive a lot of those people off. So his playstyle changed to be more agro. Yes its still slow compared to fox but compared to 2017 hbox current hbox is a different player. Also the ledge grab limit going into effect probably played a small part in this but I truly do think it was more about hbox wanting to change his public image and playstyle. But now I think hbox doesn't care to win so much as he cares to just be there. And I respect the hell out of that. Still not a fan of hbox even with all this said. But I do think he is one of the best people for the melee community.
    (please dont let this last bit age poorly and it comes out that he is an abuser or something)

  • @imn_fauler6098
    @imn_fauler6098 Рік тому +1

    I am not sure but the theme u put at 9:10 is it the final boss fro M&L inside story, haven’t played that game in a while now

  • @Jose__Pernia
    @Jose__Pernia 8 місяців тому

    8:48 which is the name of that song

  • @aleake2
    @aleake2 Рік тому

    This channel is the Internet Pitstop of Smash.

  • @SKITZ_MONEY
    @SKITZ_MONEY Рік тому

    huh i had no idea you can auto cancel fox bair.
    also you beat me in pools at fete 2, cool to see you succeeding as a content creator!

  • @Alonzone
    @Alonzone Рік тому

    People disliked him because of his character and disliked him further because he was the only one who could play the character perfectly.

  • @SimbyDimby
    @SimbyDimby Рік тому +1

    Jeremi's "I've been playing since the Documentary, Slippi kids" is not the flex he thinks it is

  • @smeargy
    @smeargy Рік тому

    0:15 what happened to Luigi? Does he not exist?

  • @ScrubbyChubs1917
    @ScrubbyChubs1917 Рік тому +1

    Bad news, I deeped it

  • @Zathien
    @Zathien Рік тому

    Didn't expect the random Gura

  • @samjasek1755
    @samjasek1755 9 місяців тому

    The fact Hbox greatest haters were commentating over his sets is pretty great too

  • @Murks33
    @Murks33 Рік тому

    And Luigi is playing outside of the box

  • @Penguno45
    @Penguno45 Рік тому +2

    Great video! Do you know what song was used first in the video?

    • @ChalerYT
      @ChalerYT  Рік тому +1

      sexy trunk balrogs theme :)

    • @Penguno45
      @Penguno45 Рік тому

      @@ChalerYT I really thought that was gonna be a troll. Thanks!

    • @Lu_Bu__
      @Lu_Bu__ Рік тому

      ​@@ChalerYT What's the song used for the Hbox gor lucky fight?

    • @ChalerYT
      @ChalerYT  Рік тому

      @@Lu_Bu__ into the final from a mario luigi game i think bowsers inside story

  • @notwidow6056
    @notwidow6056 Рік тому

    what's the song that plays at 8:40 ? i've heard it before but I don't know it.

    • @Cobalt957
      @Cobalt957 Рік тому

      Its called "In the Final" from Mario and Luigi Bowsers Inside story. It is one of the most beloved videogame soundtracks so Im pretty sure youve heared it before

    • @notwidow6056
      @notwidow6056 Рік тому +1

      @@Cobalt957 thank you. i said in the comment that i had definitely heard it, i just didn’t know where

  • @memekeeper-gaming3552
    @memekeeper-gaming3552 Рік тому +2

    "Puff is such a loser no skill character. They're so dishonest and are just so much better than everyone else" -melee fox players, for some reason

    • @megavolt67
      @megavolt67 Рік тому +3

      It's funny how one Puff player caused most of the other "gods" to be so salty to the point where they try to imply that Puff must be the best character in the game (based on the success of just that one guy) while also being the easiest to use. So why does everyone and their mother have a pocket Fox then while only a few use Puff? The answer? "Oh, I just don't approve of playing that way".
      Oh, so you don't want to do everything possible to win for the sake of some honor code? Such a load of baloney. Even the "legendary" Armada (and I know he's deservedly one of the gods, but some of the worship of him comes across as nauseating) had to switch to Fox to win EVO, so the anti-Puff bitterness from these top guys is just not worth taking seriously.
      If you want to win "honorably", then win with a mid tier or something. Don't win with Fox and then pretend like your win is more legit than a Puff win. It isn't. Fox is still the best character in the game and that's the reason so many more people have mained him or at least had him as a pocket character. Not because they could win more easily with Puff but would feel shame in doing so.

    • @coffeewithginseng3812
      @coffeewithginseng3812 Рік тому

      Glad those comments are becoming a rarity nowadays.

  • @erikfigueroa6390
    @erikfigueroa6390 Рік тому +1

    Ngl. Hbox at this point is that one guy who loves his main while a bunch of tierwhores are looking at him lol.

  • @salfoyer2411
    @salfoyer2411 Рік тому

    5:14 Can someone please tell me the name of this song?

    • @Cobalt957
      @Cobalt957 Рік тому

      Its from Trauma Center 2. The song is called gentle breeze

  • @Sonick92
    @Sonick92 Рік тому

    Is there a bounty on who threw the crab?

  • @sheridan5175
    @sheridan5175 Рік тому +2

    uhh, why is luigi missing from the graph at 0:19

    • @AshGozza
      @AshGozza Рік тому

      Don't deep it

    • @ChalerYT
      @ChalerYT  Рік тому +1

      dont deep it

    • @sheridan5175
      @sheridan5175 Рік тому +2

      @@ChalerYT There's an inside joke here that I'm missing

  • @_roko_
    @_roko_ Рік тому

    Oh god doc kids are seen as old now? Time is fucking wild dude

  • @wookiegamergunner
    @wookiegamergunner Рік тому +1

    Luigi is missing from the graph, I think this calls for a reupload

    • @ChalerYT
      @ChalerYT  Рік тому

      Don't deep it

    • @wookiegamergunner
      @wookiegamergunner Рік тому

      @@ChalerYT I had to google what that means, and I shall in fact deep it

    • @savaget2058
      @savaget2058 Рік тому

      Luigi always getting his shoe stepped on

    • @ChalerYT
      @ChalerYT  Рік тому

      @@wookiegamergunner wait is deep it a english slang thing and i never knew?

    • @wookiegamergunner
      @wookiegamergunner Рік тому

      @@ChalerYT I'm think so, I can't speak for the northern dialect but I haven't heard that at all before now

  • @plabcentral630
    @plabcentral630 Рік тому

    You forgot about the pizza. That really changed him.

  • @jokeperson
    @jokeperson Рік тому

    where was luigi in the boxes???
    im so disapointed

  • @dh3913
    @dh3913 Рік тому +1

    Been watching melee since 2012 and current Hbox is my favorite iteration lol. Still a top tier threat but not winning absolutely everything and content pilled af

  • @Spectrum0122
    @Spectrum0122 7 місяців тому

    Imagine being in a bracket with the best smash player in the world using an alias and secondaries and honestly thinking he won't still be good. Dude intentionally played as the worst character. What did you think would happen when he plays fox and sheik?

  • @JeramiJoseph
    @JeramiJoseph Рік тому +4

    I’m in this!

  • @timothymoore8549
    @timothymoore8549 Рік тому

    Kinda weird that it was a surprise to people that the number 1 player in the world was good.

  • @MrKynzer
    @MrKynzer Рік тому

    What's the music at the end?

    • @Cobalt957
      @Cobalt957 Рік тому

      Its from the Pokemon Mystery dungeon series. The song is called Dialgas fight to the finish

  • @ThirtyfourEC
    @ThirtyfourEC Рік тому

    gr8 topic

  • @mallrat395
    @mallrat395 Рік тому

    0:17 im gonna deep it

  • @dantespekken3549
    @dantespekken3549 Рік тому

    Personally, I always thought hbox was just really good and could probably do it with some other characters too.
    The tournament that really changed my perception of him is the one where he didn't wear a face mask after coughing up blood.

  • @tunablockbros
    @tunablockbros Рік тому

    the tournament where he grew out his beard 😢😢😭🥺

  • @witmilk6527
    @witmilk6527 Рік тому

    Hbox being the only puff player in top 50 really makes you think about all the times people have whined SO MUCH about it

  • @otzio8
    @otzio8 Рік тому +1

    Ah yes... The crabby patty player.

  • @nicholasaugello2534
    @nicholasaugello2534 Рік тому

    Maybe im kinda weird but the guy with sunglasses face resembles a chicken, like i thought it was stock image of an chicken until i saw the lips (the thumbnail)

  • @NOTCOLEADA
    @NOTCOLEADA Рік тому

    2:09 is this Bleach Brave Souls music? I swear I’ve heard this before

    • @Cobalt957
      @Cobalt957 Рік тому +1

      That song should be from Persona 4. Its called specialist. Or at the very least its a variation of that

  • @Keyourasa
    @Keyourasa Рік тому

    god it hurt my soul to hear someone that was a doc kid call people slippi kids. i feel so old.... im 21

  • @josephzeigler6853
    @josephzeigler6853 Рік тому

    I started following melee because of HBox. I'm a big fan, but melee fans irl seem to hate him. So much drama lol

  • @bort3629
    @bort3629 Рік тому

    Damn bro said ur name wrong in your own video, that’s crazy

  • @AlejoGoVegan
    @AlejoGoVegan Рік тому

    I wish puff was never a character in this game.

  • @Supertaldo916
    @Supertaldo916 Рік тому +2

    If Lucky had lost that set, his credibility would have shattered. Bro would have to retire immediately lmao

  • @savaget2058
    @savaget2058 Рік тому

    Is it just me or is Luigi in none of the boxes?

  • @stus2159
    @stus2159 Рік тому

    Of course Hbox is a good melee player, I don't think anyone can disagree. But the fact remains if it didn't rely on puff he wouldn't have been so dominate for so long.

  • @SirEnd3r
    @SirEnd3r Рік тому

    Smelly Smeller

  • @statisticallysound
    @statisticallysound Рік тому +5

    I’m a born and raised Hbox hater but even I can’t deny how important he is to the history of the game

  • @partlyawesome
    @partlyawesome Рік тому

    HGOD, he ain't Amsa, but he's better than those other high tier mains

  • @NebuIex
    @NebuIex Рік тому

    Hbox was my favorite player before all this happened to be honest

  • @DP3mo24hofosho
    @DP3mo24hofosho Рік тому

    Actually bimbo was ranked top 50 in 2019 and hbox beat him at this tournament making bimbo hbox’s best win at this tournament.

  • @DarrienGlasser
    @DarrienGlasser Рік тому

    🦀🦀🦀

  • @NeonManul564
    @NeonManul564 Рік тому +1

    Hi

  • @MrFreakHeavy
    @MrFreakHeavy Рік тому

    Clearly, if a puff player can be good at playing characters like fox and have these results, should be a testament of how broken fox is and how easy it is to play him. But then, you look at puff rankings and you can see there's not that many top100 puffs. My conclusion is you need to be a good player to play puff, and fox is just for players without any skill who needs the fox crutch to be good at the game.
    /s

  • @fabstems3388
    @fabstems3388 Рік тому

    All I've understood from watching melee content is that Leffen is a pathetic human being.

  • @carterklein4028
    @carterklein4028 Рік тому

    LMAO

  • @coolshirtkid
    @coolshirtkid Рік тому +2

    man not to talk down on the melee community (the players), but i feel like their commentators are so annoying. super pretentious, gatekeeping, nerdy in a bad way, makes me not wanna get deeper into the game. i find it hilarious that there isn’t even youtube content to really get into or learn melee because everyone in the community looks down on people who don’t know how to do 20+ years of tech 😂 the game looks so cool but i can’t stand the bandwagon judgmental nature of most of the people involved

    • @coolshirtkid
      @coolshirtkid Рік тому

      love watching hbox, mang0 and amsa tho, and old vods of armada are sick

  • @unapologeticasshat9214
    @unapologeticasshat9214 Рік тому +2

    The peach difficulty to use thing made me laugh. Different characters have different challenges, I'd easily argue Fox is much easier for his veritable plethora of deep options. Where as Peach unless the opponent is bad struggles to exist on the stage. Protagonist syndrome is a hell of a drug.
    Edit: Fox techskill isn't hard, just throwing that out there.

  • @89ji76
    @89ji76 Рік тому +2

    Seeing the community get pissed over the crab thing made me realize smash had become a community of try hards who’d forgotten how to have fun.

    • @SnackMuay
      @SnackMuay Рік тому +7

      What do you mean by “pissed over the crab thing?”

    • @ThirdXavier
      @ThirdXavier Рік тому +20

      even pre-eSports in any fighting game community if you threw something at a competitor you would be immediately removed from the venue if not beat up first, it wasn't funny and there's no point when people would have thought that was funny.

    • @Firenmage433
      @Firenmage433 Рік тому +3

      Imagine thinking it’s weird to try hard when people are making a living on the game.

  • @debeb5148
    @debeb5148 Рік тому

    God I am just laughing at the title. I won't even watch the vid, it's just a W as is with that title.

  • @Lu_Bu__
    @Lu_Bu__ Рік тому

    YO WHATS THE XBOX VS LUCKY SONG PLS SOMEONE TELL ME IT SOUNDS SO FIRMILIAR