King Air Pilot flies Microsoft Flight Simulator King Air 350i | Game vs. Reality
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- Comparing MSFS's King Air 350 to the real world K350. v 1.7.14.0
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Check out my X-Plane 11 King Air 350 videos:
Playlist: ua-cam.com/video/dkkBtyi0j1g/v-deo.html
Cold & Dark Before Engine Start: ua-cam.com/video/dkkBtyi0j1g/v-deo.html
Part 1: ua-cam.com/video/DsSRkEmOGyc/v-deo.html
Aircraft systems checks: ua-cam.com/video/KMwlQ4-oS1M/v-deo.html
Engine Run-up: ua-cam.com/video/srZJUfZCTA4/v-deo.html
Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/K1DkffRDqxQ/v-deo.html
Part 3: ua-cam.com/video/j8SMp4aase8/v-deo.html
Microsoft inop simulator 2020 should be the name.
Ilias 01 .
The inop shit really pisses me off, it's a simulator act like it, or do what DCS does and pay by plane then
If you're looking to compare MSFS to real world king air procedures, the Black Square Analog King Air is an overhauled version of the default King Air intended to be closer to the real thing!
Very interesting and educational, I hope they will fix the lack of prop drag because that sounds like it would come in very handy at the speeds at which a King Air or other turboprop operates.
I am a King Air 350 pilot as well and I am quite disappointed how poorly this airplane is modeled in MSFS. I wish there was a group of more real world pilots whiling to make a realistic mod for this. So many modeled aspects of this aircraft in-game really are so unrealistic, it is not playable for me. Hope to see some new updates in the future for this. Happy flying :)
Right on. Yeah I held off buying the K350 for Xplane hoping the MSFS version would be the better one. But that's not the case. I'll probably end up buying the XP version soon. I need something to "fly" as my department is very slow atm.
Don’t be too hard on them. I think the developer was on a bit of a timeline to get the game out. Would be good to see an iteration from them with some improvements based on real world feedback.
it’s a default plane, were you expecting a study level one? which out of the box gave you a fully functional study level plane?
@@masflow09 I don't expect it to be a study level aircraft, but they didn't even hit the mark on it at all. Avionics (You cant even fly a 350 with a G3000 in real life, trying to model the Fusion which was a complete fail), aircraft model (doesn't behave even close to a 350) and the performance numbers are totally unrealistic. Again, why I said I wish there was a group of real world pilots whiling to make a realistic mod for this.
@@JeremySam just remember what the word default means in a sim.
I really enjoyed this video. However, I see a lot of negative comments in regards to his comparison of both aircrafts, real world and sim. Please keep in mind, that real world pilot uses flight sims for training, as well as for gaming pleasure. I for one, wished that I had something like this in the early 90’s when I first got my pilot’s license. I was sent off with a sectional chart and minimal understanding of a VOR and NDB, on my first solo cross countries. Flying is expensive, and having sim aircrafts that’s very close to the real thing (working buttons and all) could save a young broke future pilot a lot of money.
Good to see you back Chaz!
Thank you for sharing your experience captain👨✈️
I think MSFS was actually trying to depict the Rockwell Pro Line Fusion setup, and just completely dropped the ball. Thanks for the review, spent a lot of time in the back of 350s, but never had that pleasure of flying one. I just know they climbed WAY faster than the 250s.
Yeah I read the intent was the Pro Line Fusion, but it looked more like a Garmin G3000. It's suffering from an identity crisis.
Agreed. You can see this is a Collins Fusion setup with the flight guidance panel, center pedestal keypad, and screens/bezels. However when you boot it up, it’s using Garmin menus. Just a bit misleading.
Very cool. Thanks for putting this together.
They have fixed some things in the king air in the last update. Also, jd's mod and working title GXXX upgrade could solve many of it's problems
Wish you’d compared real aircraft vs Black Square analogue version of King Air 350i, at least everything works in the latter one :) Good video, though ! Thx for sharing
Very nice video! Tried to fly the King air yesterday in fs2020 and noticed a bit of a knowledge gap between what I gained in my real world c172 experience. Thanks for plugging the gap :)
Thanks Chaz very good! One thing that really bothers me too is the engine gauges are on the wrong side of the MFD. I’ve researched the 2020 KA 350i and the up coming KA 360 both are on the Left side of the MFD as to be in the direct view of the pilot. Again thank you! I know someone will make a real Study Version someday.
Nice Video Chaz. I have to say i flew this plane in X-Plane very well. Tonight i flew the 350 in Microsoft Flight Simulator tonight for the first time and I have to say it sucks big time. Aerodynamics and flight characteristics are not like anything compared to the X-Plane version. Second, as soon as i power the plane up a voice says auto pilot engaged. Well that's strange. When i move my mouse over the engage button, it says engage autopilot. It should have said disengage autopilot being as it say it was engaged when i powered the plane. So then when i would throttle up just a little to taxi,, when i bring the power levers back to idle, the engines are still spinning quite a bit more than they should. meaning they didn't power down to idle. If i bring the levers down to reversers and then bring then back to idle, then they will stay idling. But the biggest problem i had was when flying it. The auto pilot would not work at all. No matter what i did, nothing. Not even the heading bug would make the plane follow it. I could not keep the plane at level flight for anything. Like i said i flew this plane in X-Plane with no problems. So i don't like this 350 that's in 2020. Maybe when someone makes an addon King Air 350 in the future than i will buy it and fly that one. And yeah hardly any of the switches work in the current one. Not fun. :-(
There should be a LOT of MEL inop stickers on the panel...
Maintenance!!!!
@@chazflyz We are waiting to get the new wires in from Arkansas and the new panel switches so either wait for shipping and installation or fly it like that
Hey there you are! Saw you in the ready room yesterday! :)
Right on! Small world. Thanks for stopping by!
You need to try and review the Black Square Analogue King Air for FS2020.
It says "Garmin" on the startup but the set up is in fact the Proline Fusion. This sim game is so bizarre.
Thank you. great review :)
Nice review, none of the Microsoft default planes are study level, you seemed surprised? As you are a real world pilot then either you'll need to get hold of a mod making this more realistic or buy a DLC when it comes out which is more study level. Again though really good review and I hope you haven't just left it there and posted this helpful video to Asobo and Microsoft. Thanks.
Heck, may as well clear the dash and just put a big green "on" button and a big red "off" button in it's place. Good video.
Enjoyed this...are the props contra-rotating? If they are there shouldn't be too much yaw on t/o, should there?
The props are convenientional rotating. Right rudder required on climb out until the yaw damp is turned on.
very interesting take from a real king air pilot! why Asobo didn't hire people like you to model a proper king air? i don't understand...
Well many, if not all, of the stock aircraft are like this. Very simplified and without functioning systems.
It would be nice(?) If flight MSFS somehow simulated the cost of prop dings, hot sections and ADs....
Im a hard core flight simmer and all those inop buttons and systems are stupid its supposed to be a flight simulator
Have you tried the Airfoil labs king air 350 for xplane 11?
Must have for Xplane
Hi, yes I recently picked up the K350 for XP. I plan to make tutorial type videos. Stay tuned.
Not sure who's the target audience of this aircraft model. Even in this dumbed down state it is way too complex for gamers. But for simmers it is laughably simple and uninteresting.
I totally agree with you, as a flight simmer, I came from a X-Plane platform using the airfoil labs King Air 350 which is a pretty detailed model. But that judgment needs to be reserved to @ChazFlyz who flies it for real. If he hasn't done so already, I would enjoy watching @Chazflyz fly the X-Plane 11 (Airfoil Labs King Air 350) version and see what his thoughts were on that flight model and Aircraft Systems.
As for me, coming from the airfoil labs model it's night and day difference. Airfoil labs version is far superior but that's only from a flight simulation aviators perspective not a real world aviator's perspective.
Cheers Dion UA-cam: #dionm01
PS: Shameless plug, I also do to review of The King Air 350 on my channel video link here ua-cam.com/video/yAtfiQqXh4c/v-deo.html for your viewing pleasure.
@@Dionm01 Thanks for stopping by. When I learned that the K350 was coming to MSFS, I held off getting the Airfoilslab version. Considering the state of MSFS, I will likely pick up the Airfoil labs version. I think it would be fun to make some tutorial like videos and/or stream some flights. Stay tuned!
@chazflyz Just picked up the AAirfoil labs myself. It's simply stunning, I need a video like yours to learn how to fly it though haha
I don't personally agree with any of these comments. This product is a simulator not a game. It's delivering a default aircraft which does have some systems inop - this plane never pretended to be a study aircraft but it's systems should be accessible for most people with the minimal of fuss and you always have the quick start as well. I like the default aircraft - there are numerous bugs which need to be fixed but I can fly all of them as a casual simmer and if I can fly them then so can you.
@@dtrjones , I agree with you! We have several aircraft by default at MSFS 2020 and if we want to fly them we don't need to be real pilots. I wonder @chazflyz if you can fly easily other aircraft at real world? I think a real pilot is specialized (certified?) at a given aircraft and does not change easily to another brand. Am I wrong?
Anyway it is interesting to know the differences but more focused at the important things. like the one it follows. As not an English native I can write but some times I have difficulty to understand English spoken but I understood that at landing you ,@chazflyz, talk something about the simulator not reducing speed as at real world when ........?
In one line can you explain?
I wonder why they get so many things wrong with the aircraft, when they can easily find the correct information?
If you are using a GPU you can't start #2 first, you have to start #1 because no line tech is going to walk near a fully spinning prop to pull the GPU plug.
I agree. But the aircraft manufacturer's checklist has the pilot start #2 first.... because the air conditioning is geared on that engine. But ask just about king air 350 pilot and they start #1 first.
Also, 99.99% of our starts were always battery starts. We would alternate left and right starts to "spread" the wear on the starter so it wasn't always on one side for that initial battery start.
Let’s keep in my that no default aircraft in the history of flight simulator were modeled as payware aircraft. A payware King would cost around the same price as the regular edition of flight simulator.
it looks to be more focusing on the real time weather patterns and how weather conditions impact the aircraft as a main focal point for simulation that hasn't really been done like this before...how was this end of your experience in the sim?
The visuals are great, no doubt. But what about operation of the aircraft? I can't speak for others. I buy these titles for the enjoyment of flying airplanes. But if 75% of the cockpit is inop (among other things listed in the video) it kills immersion and the novelty quickly wears off.
Developers need to step in.
I got this plane (in FS2020) to run once for a flight. I try to follow the checklist, but the engine start procedures fails. When I click on Start/On switch for # 2 engine, sim does not respond. Engine may start though, but after a while will die and will not re-start.
I don't have the FSX version so I cannot help pinpoint the issue. Are you holding the engine start switch until 50% Ng? Also, set the condition lever to low idle at 12% Ng during the start sequence.
You noticed all the things I did... lol only a bit of time on a 1900 and B90. Lots wrong with this airplane in the sim.
Lots wrong with the entire sim in general. But it was dumbed down. Back to Xplane!
you should review the Airfoil King Air 350 on X-Plane 11. I think you would find it more faithful to the real aircraft
I recently picked up the K350 for XP. I plan to make tutorial type videos. Stay tuned.
Very interesting
HI, could you share the cheklist with me please? I love this model and trying to learn.
I cannot share my company's checklist. But there are plenty of checklists available through an internet search.
Hi! Is it optional to set the right condition lever to high after the right engine is started? Does this have to be done before the left engine is started?
For the purposes of this game, it's not required. It won't affect how the left starter/generator behaves during the start sequence. In real life, we set the right CL to high to start the left engine.
Chaz thanks for the reply. I left X Plane where all I used was the Airfoil Labs King Air 350. That plane was amazing!! MS 2020 is still a baby and I was too quick leave X Plane. Hoping MS gets to X Plane functionality within a year.
@@massimodalessandro9259 I will likely pick up the AF K350 for XP. I held off hoping MSFS' K350 would be enough, but it's far from complete and accurate.
Hi Chaz, I had to tell you. I re-installed X Plane with the Airfoil Labs 350. No contest man, this plane is too good. Hope yo see you in it on UA-cam,. I’m sure we would all love your take on it. Thanks
Right on. Yeah I am going to wait a few weeks to pick it up. I plan to get my Honeycomb throttle quadrant in early November. That should go well with the AF King Air 350. I've seen the videos online and it looks and operates like the real deal. Stay tuned!
How about Fuel "Capacitity" lol
Flying the real airplane is easier ! 😂🤣😂
yeah but does you not fly a 350 and what is in the game is a 350i
I fly a 350i with ProLine 21 avionics. But a 350 is a 350, avionics are just eye candy. The plumbing (systems) are still the same.
That' Inop
Are you serious? They simplified it?! I understand the flight model not being perfect, but systems should be on point. It’s a simulator!
All of the stock MSFS aircraft are dumbed down. An average of 70 to 80% of the cockpits are non-functional. 3rd party devs will need to step up.
@@chazflyz that’s the point of a default, if they made every default plane a study level what was going to happen to the airplane developers?
You are flying the old king air and the one in MSFS is the 350i 🤣😂😂
I fly a 350i, just with older avionics (ProLine 21). The 350i in MSFS has fictional hybrid Garmin avionics. But everything else about the 350i is still the same under the hood.
Doing a comparison with the real one is just unfair. This aircraft is real crap. Everything is inop, strange engine behavior, prop pitch levers even don't seem to work etc... The standard version in fsx was much more real... Tbm is far better here.