Boomer Bends: A Generational Divide Within Guitar Music

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  • @justinrendon4692
    @justinrendon4692 Місяць тому +2124

    Boomer bends ❌
    Guitar virtuoso ❌
    Caveman riffs ✅

  • @theclassicrock69
    @theclassicrock69 Місяць тому +1516

    Zoomer here to say Boomer bends fucking rock. They overused that technique so much because it kicks ass.

    • @losfogo7149
      @losfogo7149 Місяць тому +156

      in 40 years we'll have joomers saying we should stop tapping and will be reinventing the Gilmour bend

    • @theCGIANIMA
      @theCGIANIMA 29 днів тому +28

      @@losfogo7149 pretty much yeah, but it'll be sooner than that. Gotta make up for Moore's Law and all, and also we're just progressing faster with communication developments. I predict that the Gilmour Bend will actually be recreated on an instrument other than the guitar which will reinvigorate the interest in bends and glissando.

    • @losfogo7149
      @losfogo7149 29 днів тому +7

      @@theCGIANIMA Gilmour Plugin on Ableton that turns the MIDI input into a two times longer pink Floyd solo

    • @theCGIANIMA
      @theCGIANIMA 29 днів тому +6

      @@losfogo7149 Also, it sings "I'm better than you and you know it" as it solos unless you pass the social credit check at the paygate on the plugin itself.

    • @peoplespoet1974
      @peoplespoet1974 29 днів тому +4

      Facts. I use them SOMETIMES...it's like a spice you have to use carefully when doing a solo 'soup'.

  • @user-er5mg6zj4v
    @user-er5mg6zj4v Місяць тому +450

    anyone who thinks that overly complicated shreddy guitar music is a new thing should check out old classical guitar pieces.

    • @Chiller11
      @Chiller11 Місяць тому +62

      Flamenco is even shreddier.

    • @GammaFields
      @GammaFields 24 дні тому +10

      If anybody likes classical guitar shredding, I'de suggest looking up Kazuhito Yamashita's transcription of Pictures at an Exhibition - Mussorgsky

    • @-Zontar-
      @-Zontar- 23 дні тому +12

      The first page of “Capricho Arabe” by Francisco Terrega comes to mind. Long runs of 16th and 32nd notes that sounds like something Satriani would’ve played if he were alive in the 19th century 😂

    • @ImnotgoingSideways
      @ImnotgoingSideways 23 дні тому +8

      @@Chiller11 That is precisely what came to my mind when I started listening to their stuff. 20 seconds into listening to "Playing God" my brain immediately went 'this is electric Flamenco'.

    • @SHUTDOWNOfficial
      @SHUTDOWNOfficial 22 дні тому +4

      Listen to Sabicas' "Carcelera: Reflejo Andaluz". You may have heard it before if you play Counter-Strike.

  • @Jumpyj3st3r150
    @Jumpyj3st3r150 Місяць тому +1334

    Bro really put the entire history of music at the start

    • @tommyakesson8858
      @tommyakesson8858 Місяць тому +57

      Coolea might not be sure how old boomers are exactly so he covered all the bases

    • @ghost_to_a_ghost
      @ghost_to_a_ghost Місяць тому +1

      Coolea has been on a fuckin rip lately with these uploads 😎

    • @TheHippie27
      @TheHippie27 Місяць тому +8

      I dunno, zero mention of the entire jazz movement, whcih arguably went through the exact same technicality arc that inevitably led to it falling out of favour. bebop legends like charlie parker and john coltrane were arguably the tosin abasis of the jazz world, and I think that both art forms led to an alienation of the audience, which results in a generation rebelling against the technical mastery and going back to the fundamentals.

    • @bluglass7819
      @bluglass7819 Місяць тому +3

      He missed a lot..

    • @DeltresePshanks
      @DeltresePshanks Місяць тому +2

      Comment without using the word "bro." Be original

  • @Rukiman_no16
    @Rukiman_no16 Місяць тому +927

    Something I think a lot of people get wrong is that music theory is not ''this is good and you shouldn't do anything else'' is a ''these things sound good and many people have been using them for a long time. Now, do whatever you want and use me as a tool''

    • @IdkwhoIam8218
      @IdkwhoIam8218 Місяць тому +31

      Exactly why I hate classical music nerds

    • @Rukiman_no16
      @Rukiman_no16 Місяць тому +13

      @@IdkwhoIam8218 Why?

    • @IdkwhoIam8218
      @IdkwhoIam8218 Місяць тому +4

      @@Rukiman_no16 the music theory crap

    • @bottlemanic
      @bottlemanic Місяць тому +103

      I think you missed his point entirely. Theory is a tool to help you achieve what you're trying to say. A vocabulary to help you pick the right words to construct a coherent sentence rather than just speaking from the heart and tripping over your words until you get it right ​@IdkwhoIam8218

    • @IdkwhoIam8218
      @IdkwhoIam8218 Місяць тому +29

      @@bottlemanic I’m talking about the people who act like music theory is the most important thing in a song and without it the song is bad (Ben Shapiro)

  • @tmamone83
    @tmamone83 Місяць тому +582

    My personal take is I don't care how fast or slow or technical or simple a guitarist plays. If I can feel it, that's all that matters.

    • @ScienceBabbleMusic
      @ScienceBabbleMusic Місяць тому +9

      Exactly!

    • @Snyperwolf91
      @Snyperwolf91 Місяць тому +7

      What if you got the feelings of diarhea ?
      Its just a joke .

    • @tmamone83
      @tmamone83 Місяць тому +39

      @@Snyperwolf91 When a guitarist discovers the brown note. 😆

    • @gdakmusic
      @gdakmusic 28 днів тому +3

      Well said

    • @Jesus_rrs
      @Jesus_rrs 26 днів тому +9

      You also need to keep in mind that music, it's also an acquired taste. You learn to like things and some things are easier to like than others.
      That's why pop music appeals to more people, not because it has 'more soul/feel'

  • @tishe5269
    @tishe5269 26 днів тому +60

    tim henson never said boomer bends as a derogative thing, he just called it that because the technique was popular with that generation and because of the alliteration, tim henson actually likes boomer bends

    • @farrex0
      @farrex0 13 днів тому +14

      Yeah, I actually dislike how many people like the one on this video, intentionally misinterpret what Hensen said to create views, drama and outrage. And then say things like "oh well it is all subjective and I am not trying to" When, Hensen himself has been clear on what he meant.

    • @Rangure02
      @Rangure02 10 днів тому +1

      Tell that to Tim Henson fans. Lol

    • @brainrich1358
      @brainrich1358 5 днів тому +1

      Yeah, it sounds like someone just heard that term, got offended by it and ran with it. As much as I think calling bends "boomer bends" is dumb as well, it's not a big deal.

    • @measuringcup7080
      @measuringcup7080 4 дні тому +1

      You cant use a word with a negative connotation and expect people to not take it negatively. The word "Boomer" has been used for years now as a mocking term for older people/styling/beliefs. Of course people are gonna hear "Boomer bends" and think its a mocking critique of bending as a whole made by an artist who's trying to "innovate".

    • @Bladavia
      @Bladavia 2 дні тому +2

      like always, most people didn't mind any of it, the "backlash" was just from a few butthurts that exist in any generation or social group

  • @tippiergnome8471
    @tippiergnome8471 Місяць тому +650

    I wouldn’t know anything about Tim Henson if it wasn’t for the Internet continuously talking about him

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes Місяць тому +80

      bcuz he’s that good if you enjoy progressive music. He’s not everyones cup o’ tea tho

    • @buckodonnghaile4309
      @buckodonnghaile4309 Місяць тому +229

      He created the Muppets, that's all I know.

    • @user-tg4jf5bf1v
      @user-tg4jf5bf1v Місяць тому +25

      ​@@buckodonnghaile4309
      This comment won the internet for the day. I tip my cap to you

    • @devenscience8894
      @devenscience8894 Місяць тому

      @@buckodonnghaile4309 he's the host of Distorted View Daily.

    • @dan_kay
      @dan_kay Місяць тому +94

      @@poindextertunes
      The noise he produces is called progressive music?
      Guess I'm going to call my dumps progressive digestion from now on.

  • @Woozy.0
    @Woozy.0 Місяць тому +465

    Beato should get 3-5 years for popularizing the term "Boomer bends"

    • @tcpfuzz9215
      @tcpfuzz9215 Місяць тому +119

      0-3-5

    • @joelflynn1124
      @joelflynn1124 Місяць тому +3

      Boomer chill.

    • @dragonballfanscantread2383
      @dragonballfanscantread2383 28 днів тому +44

      Beato is a dork.
      He doesn't get what makes music art.

    • @dylanphelan3010
      @dylanphelan3010 28 днів тому +8

      Close minded statement

    • @GeorgeTsiros
      @GeorgeTsiros 28 днів тому +7

      anyone acknowledging the term
      in my unapologetically *not* humble opinion
      should first try to bend like hendrix
      try bending a note like those "boomers" and if you manage it, you're then free to talk shit about it, _if you still think it's worthy of derision_

  • @randomguyontheinternet7940
    @randomguyontheinternet7940 Місяць тому +242

    "The pipeline from Robert Johnson to Young Thug"
    I have nothing I just love this

    • @junny3000
      @junny3000 Місяць тому +12

      YT is facing RICO charges and is currently awaiting sentencing. Robert Johnson actually played guitar

    • @randomguyontheinternet7940
      @randomguyontheinternet7940 Місяць тому +6

      @@junny3000 im just saying pointing out history like that was hilarous. billion times more respect to Robert Johnson than to any rich wannabe thug

    • @THICCTHICCTHICC
      @THICCTHICCTHICC Місяць тому +7

      ​@@randomguyontheinternet7940Young Thug isn't a wannabe lol. Literally a gang leader.

    • @patriarchyenjoyer69
      @patriarchyenjoyer69 25 днів тому

      @@THICCTHICCTHICC Wow, that makes him so much more respectable lmao

    • @patriarchyenjoyer69
      @patriarchyenjoyer69 25 днів тому

      The welfare state really destroyed that culture, sadly.

  • @bobbob-es6zg
    @bobbob-es6zg Місяць тому +233

    The Stratocaster wasn’t released until the 50’s. Pedals had nothing to do with main stream rock music until the 60s. All trivial corrections, the video still properly conveys your point.

    • @junny3000
      @junny3000 Місяць тому +12

      and even in the 60s it was just volume pedals and wah wahs

    • @bobbob-es6zg
      @bobbob-es6zg Місяць тому +20

      It all started with a broken recording mixing console, then that sound, was converted and engineered into a pedal, the Maestro Fuzz tone FZ1. Initially the pedal was advertised as being able to simulate wood wind and brass instruments when plugged into string instruments; because it was so expensive it was never really advertised to the average enthusiast or amateur musician. The Rolling Stones used an FZ1 to record satisfaction, because they couldn’t afford a horns section. The FZ1 enabled them to use the guitar to fill the sonic void that normally would be filled by a brass section.

    • @F1083
      @F1083 Місяць тому

      @@junny3000 Fuzz son Fuzz.
      Hit with satisfaction by the stones
      Used by Hendrix
      Used be the Beatles
      A mainstay of the whole 60s Psychedelic scene
      ua-cam.com/video/Tfpn3wHoNGA/v-deo.html

    • @SpartanS117C
      @SpartanS117C 22 дні тому

      ​@@junny3000I believe there was phasing and flanging pedals.

  • @Thischannelisdicontinued
    @Thischannelisdicontinued Місяць тому +279

    Coolea jumpscare at 00:14

    • @JasonCan-wp2fu
      @JasonCan-wp2fu Місяць тому +17

      Pure terror

    • @ndogg20
      @ndogg20 Місяць тому +18

      Relax. Its just an AI generated image. The real Coolea has a wizards hat.

    • @goonfish1704
      @goonfish1704 Місяць тому +15

      bro listened to his female fans going “omg show your face” like the wizard goblin isn’t good enough

    • @bestwesterner
      @bestwesterner Місяць тому +5

      Nah that’s Cillian Murphy

    • @elixthenese1469
      @elixthenese1469 Місяць тому +12

      His avatar is surprisingly reflective of him.

  • @swagmund_freud6669
    @swagmund_freud6669 Місяць тому +244

    Saying "And that brings us to the topic of this video" half-way through has the same energy as Marx saying "And now I shall get to the crux of the issue" on page 388.

    • @damonhinson4005
      @damonhinson4005 Місяць тому +22

      Comrade?

    • @BababooeyGooey
      @BababooeyGooey Місяць тому +31

      The crux of the issue: "How the fuck do you spell 'booj-wa-zee'?"

    • @insertnamehere1258
      @insertnamehere1258 Місяць тому +1

      @@BababooeyGooeyborjwaze

    • @mofomartianp
      @mofomartianp 27 днів тому +13

      The crux being "I'm inventing a revolutionary social and economic ideology to undermine the monarch and stage a revolution to seize power for my group. The workers are just tools, whether for Capitalists or Communists. And we will use them as tools."

    • @carlmarker9257
      @carlmarker9257 27 днів тому

      lel commie

  • @nimrodery
    @nimrodery Місяць тому +85

    Music does this in cycles. Baroque was called that to be derisive, more emotional music with expression came after as a reaction to overly technical stuff like madrigals or Fugues. Sometimes the results can be a whole new form of expression a master like Beethoven could use to make us all pay attention. Oh, uh, music history nerd here.

    • @vincentdequiram1102
      @vincentdequiram1102 28 днів тому +5

      Do you know what Beethoven said about J.S.Bach: „Bach, the man who should be named Ocean!“ The name Bach means a small water stream in German. So Beethoven was a real fan of Baroque music.

    • @nimrodery
      @nimrodery 28 днів тому +2

      @@vincentdequiram1102 That's part of the cycle, other classical era composers looked back to Baroque (just not with that label) as well for inspiration, like how disco was largely avoided for a bit but inspired later waves of music styles. I was referring to the attitudes seen slightly after Bach's time and wasn't implying Beethoven would have disliked his music.

    • @JoshButterballs
      @JoshButterballs 27 днів тому

      all the best music was already written by men in wigs. give me a modern piece that offers divine substance as Fantasia in G, BWV 572: Gravement

    • @SpartanS117C
      @SpartanS117C 22 дні тому +1

      I took a music history class and I'm very interested to see the evolution of guitar music in this era.

    • @shemsuhor8763
      @shemsuhor8763 18 днів тому

      Correct. Music has been "over" for hundreds of years. Nothing is new under the sun.
      Nothing ever happens.
      It's over.

  • @abyss9316
    @abyss9316 Місяць тому +67

    Everybody probably has heard the story that Eddie Van Halen used to play with his back turned so people could not see his hands playing

    • @Dragonflyer74
      @Dragonflyer74 29 днів тому +1

      funny because he stole tapping from Harvey Mandel and he wasnt even close to the first guy to do it

    • @chernobylcoleslaw6698
      @chernobylcoleslaw6698 23 дні тому +2

      I hadn't heard that, but I do remember hearing of a jazz trumpeter playing with handkerchief covering his trumpet so people couldn't see it.

    • @Ozarkmadness56
      @Ozarkmadness56 18 днів тому +1

      Robert Johnson also did this in the recording booth. Dudes want to guard their techniques.

  • @daveethridge7342
    @daveethridge7342 Місяць тому +32

    I'm 47 and I'm grateful to have seen some of the legendary bands before they passed away. I also appreciate the technical skills of these young players. Maybe not their vocals, but that's just me.

  • @Canadianbassist
    @Canadianbassist Місяць тому +624

    Tim Henson is just Gen Z version of Yngwie Malmsteen.

    • @Arnathor4582
      @Arnathor4582 Місяць тому

      The tranny version of him
      Guitar is outdated
      It's a toy for the rich nowodays

    • @jackko21
      @jackko21 Місяць тому

      Just with more pink panties

    • @elzueiromemes
      @elzueiromemes Місяць тому +114

      Even Malmsteen himself recognizes he would be nothing if wasn't for Hendrix

    • @Arnathor4582
      @Arnathor4582 Місяць тому

      Tim Henson is an overrated feminine looking man
      The boomers had it all, cheaper housing, better music and even better guitarist

    • @MetalPersonJ
      @MetalPersonJ Місяць тому +79

      it will be a cursed day when he discovered donuts.

  • @rocketpigrecords3719
    @rocketpigrecords3719 Місяць тому +94

    Going in cold, I swear it's nice to see grunge & 90s metal aging so well.
    "Bro, look at my clean funk shred 'song' that sounds like I'm playing a talent show at MI!"
    >wrinkles nose at 21st century twink Richie Kotzen in disgust
    >Chugs beer
    >hits bong
    >JCM 800 set to kill
    >hurricane of feedback
    "I'm not that talented, and don't really care."

    • @snailcorepistolwhippits9488
      @snailcorepistolwhippits9488 Місяць тому +11

      "talent show at MI" you nailed it.
      I think a lot of these modern virtuosos benefit from the Internet making them accessible to a lot of normies. People from musical hubs like Hollywood don't stan out over bands and guitar players in the same way

    • @YBM2007
      @YBM2007 27 днів тому +2

      Only good that came out of grunge was AiC. The rest was extremely mediocre and overrated

    • @rocketpigrecords3719
      @rocketpigrecords3719 27 днів тому +7

      @@YBM2007 compared to what? And no, Soundgarden and Mudhoney and Smashing Pumpkins aren't 'overrated.'

    • @YBM2007
      @YBM2007 27 днів тому +2

      @@rocketpigrecords3719 Extremely limited compared to the stuff that predated it (in a broader commercial sense), 80s hard rock and metal. Which is where you find the origins of AiC.

    • @rocketpigrecords3719
      @rocketpigrecords3719 27 днів тому +5

      @@YBM2007 not really, this is just crap asshurt butt rockers have been saying since 1992.
      Grunge is a hybrid style based upon a bunch of bands in a scene no one was paying attention to, who did whatever they wanted with their classic rock, folk, country, punk and metal influences. Even hairspray stuff, Alice 'N Chainz displayed on Facelift.
      Huge difference between the usual suspects, much less getting into fringier stuff like the Melvins that basically created sludge metal.
      Meanwhile hair bands all had the same bleach blonde closet case singer, wannabe EVH guitarist, bassist who I guess wasn't fat & showed up on time, and a drummer that never did anything Bonham wouldn't do.
      Same ball less tone, same production style, same power ballads, same spandex. Even Megadeth ended up with boosted 500hz mids and gated reverb all over at least on album, & Dave hated it.
      If you're talking about Maiden, early Metallica, or even some good ol' Celtic Frost, these were all stuff Cobain listened to regularly. Many old Nirvana photos, you see Grohl wearing a Sepultura ball cap.
      Over half the bands you want to throw at me, couldn't play a Soundgarden song - because they only ever played in 4/4.

  • @stephenbennett5240
    @stephenbennett5240 28 днів тому +106

    Even Tim Henson himself said he loves Boomer bends. He just named it that because the boomer generation invented that style of bend. Nothing backhanded about it. Boomer bends rock

    • @Noxious_Koi
      @Noxious_Koi 27 днів тому +22

      He even said it’s also just because the alliteration

    • @CyberChrist
      @CyberChrist 25 днів тому

      That's still objectively untrue.

    • @KirkVz
      @KirkVz 24 дні тому +12

      exactly it was just to describe a generation in music , it was the boomers themselves that took it as an insult lol

    • @CyberChrist
      @CyberChrist 23 дні тому +4

      @@KirkVz It's not like he was salty people with any modicum of musical taste criticised his music, of course...
      And criticising older people for being older is karma in the making, unless you're going to join the 27 Club :P

    • @aramondehasashi3324
      @aramondehasashi3324 22 дні тому +5

      Yeah i went to his UA-cam channel to listen to some of his playing and the first few videos i watched he's using bends.

  • @saftigesfruchtchen456
    @saftigesfruchtchen456 Місяць тому +50

    I like the sound of both styles.

  • @rokusen8135
    @rokusen8135 28 днів тому +12

    Why can't people just stop trying to put boundaries on art which in my opinion should be mostly boundless. Not directed at anyone specifically but, just shut up and listen to the music you like.

  • @THEmobius77
    @THEmobius77 Місяць тому +445

    Henson is obviously a talented guitarist, but I've never listened to one of his songs twice.

    • @Guesswho2024.
      @Guesswho2024. Місяць тому +67

      Same just not my thing. Never even hear the full goat song. And hey guess what ? That’s okay!!! Someone else would say they prefer what I don’t ! Who cares.

    • @animeswitch
      @animeswitch Місяць тому +68

      Kinda makes sense his music sounds soulless, GenZ got unlucky and had to grow up with completely soulless/materialistic mainstream trash.

    • @milkwalkerjones633
      @milkwalkerjones633 Місяць тому +10

      Yeah it's boring

    • @milkwalkerjones633
      @milkwalkerjones633 Місяць тому +95

      @@animeswitchEvery generation has said that about every younger generation though lol it's all subjective

    • @animeswitch
      @animeswitch Місяць тому +22

      @@milkwalkerjones633 It really isnt when people are listening to songs about materialism, cars, money, ect. This is soulless by definition. Literally all modern rap music, and they are made so unbelievably basic.

  • @HA11EYS_COM3T
    @HA11EYS_COM3T 28 днів тому +40

    I feel like people overestimate how much technicality takes out emotion. Just using extremely technical playing doesn’t mean you can’t have emotion.

    • @Zooropa_Station
      @Zooropa_Station 26 днів тому +12

      Right, it's like anti-intellectualism but for music. Aka the people the mock others for using words that are "too big" even though those words have a reason for existing.

    • @mattster693
      @mattster693 26 днів тому +8

      While in theory that would make sense, but in practice it just doesn’t seem to work that way, even certain music I like I can realize that because the playing is so fast and technical there is little time to add the emotion unless that emotion needs it to be that way to be fully realized,
      Tbh very few emotions can be expressed with virtuosic technicality, while restricting your playing and playing slower can yield more interesting sounds and much different emotions, the space in between is just as important as the notes played

    • @ItsMeBarnaby
      @ItsMeBarnaby 26 днів тому +25

      Saying a piece of music "lacks feel" or is "soulless" is completely meaningless. You might as well just say you just don't like it because that's all it really means. Its just people trying to make their subjective opinion sound more objective.

    • @Jeremy-hx7zj
      @Jeremy-hx7zj 25 днів тому +17

      I swear, most people hear one 16th note run and decide it's soulless music made by a robot. Music is like, the only discipline where working extremely hard every day to learn as much about it as possible is viewed as unpassionate

    • @Jeremy-hx7zj
      @Jeremy-hx7zj 25 днів тому +6

      ​@@mattster693everyone processes music differently. Maybe you can't observe emotion if someone plays fast, but many people can.

  • @superflysoulbrother
    @superflysoulbrother Місяць тому +13

    55 here, love Polyphia! I think Tim is referring more to the Freebird lick more than referring to actual bending. Anyways, I think learning a Polyphia song or 2 could do anyone some good. Loads of technique, chord inversions, chord melody, voice leading and hooks for days. Not to mention their licks are so unique and quirky.

  • @benjamineer3045
    @benjamineer3045 Місяць тому +22

    Fun fact when Music is Win had Tim on, Tim stated Hendrix is one of his favorites. And I think there is something to that. Hendrix was a massiv innovator at his time, especially when it came to effect usage and articulation. Tim does similar things but in a different direction.

    • @lakerfan2874
      @lakerfan2874 28 днів тому +1

      I can't get around the fuzz nor Hendrix's singing to get through one song. He was an entertainer, that's it. Carlos Santana on the other hand to keep it American in the mid to late 60s, was either on par or better in my opinion. He has more feel and is more technical without any dirty pedals. I can say that Eddie is better because he was full natural in his guitar sound/tone. Santana and Eddie knew that lead singing were not for them.

    • @gdawgs101
      @gdawgs101 28 днів тому +8

      ​​​​@@lakerfan2874 LMAO awful opinion. Also Carlos Santana isn't even American, he was born in Mexico, grew up in Mexico, didn't even come to the US until he was already performing professionally.
      Also explain how Santana was "more technical". I mean be specific. I'm a guitar teacher, and Hendrix's parts are generally much more complex than the average Santana part, and I like Carlos a lot.
      Also Carlos, while having a pretty simple signal chain, has used "dirty pedals" (can't believe you unironically said this). I'm looking at a picture of one of his pedalboards from his 2014 tour and he has a wah, a big muff, a delay, and a compressor on it. And I know for a fact he's used tube screamers in the past as well.
      Leave it to the Lakers fan to not know what he's talking about... 😂

    • @lakerfan2874
      @lakerfan2874 28 днів тому +1

      @@gdawgs101 Leave it to a boring guitar teacher to go word for word into bars and chords, but probably won't listen to much music unless it's classical and probably folk or pop. Mexico is an American country a part of the North American continent, so I'm still right about Santana being an American, just not what you think when you're looking at the country of the US. I'd rather have raw feel and emotion more than the artificial fuzz sound. I love the wah-wah pedal because it gives the guitar an effect while keeping the sound as it was being played normally. The fuzz pedal just makes it darker and probably most of the times muddy. I believe thr fuzz pedal is better on the bass than the lead or rhythm guitar. You're a teacher making a production, I'm just a listener and like what I like. It's more preference than an opinion. In my opinion, you're just pissed because I see Hendrix as just an entertainer more than a guitar god. If you give Hendrix DLR's vocals then maybe I'll give it to him, but for me, if he's the frontman, he better be like Chuck Berry more than he is a singing Santana or go the Joe Satriani route and hire a freaking singer and do tons of instrumentals to showcase the skill and talent. Singers today can't play guitar and some guitarists don't sing to get by. Just because you go note by note and think the fuzz pedal is better than the damn regular tone and sound of the guitar doesn't mean I'm going to change my mind on him. I played Guitar Hero World Tour and the two songs that are on there, I played and I couldn't get into a groove. Hell, Somewhere Along the Watchtower has a good intro because it's a basic acoustic intro, but as a singer I give Bob Dylan the respect that he needs. You can be the best guitarist, but you might as well hire a singer and do what you do best, which is what Santana does. Not everyone's gonna be into Hendrix like not everyone's into the Beatles, Tom Petty, or Metallica, which is fine by me. Hell, I'd say Petty's a better singer than Hendrix and you'd just be fine because you're just a guitar teacher. Plus, teachers indoctrinate their pupils to be just like them, so if I was one of your students, don't think I'm gonna listen and like it. I never liked Van Halen, The Doors, ACDC, Led Zeppelin except for Stairway to Heaven, or even Tom Petty as a kid/teen, but I do now. I won't even listen to Polyphia because it doesn't rock like the 5 above do. A very skilled guitarist should stay in their lane and be a very skilled guitarist. Nobody thinks of Steven Tyler for his harmonica skills nor do people think about Hendrix for his singing, they typically skip to the parts that have the riffs and solos. I had a change of heart on Bruce Springsteen being too depressing, he's not at all. If Hendrix lived over 27, he wouldn't be thought about as much as he does today like Cobain, Winehouse and Joplin. Hell, if you're a guitar teacher, you might hate Nirvana for their raunchy, unprofessional, and untechnical riffs, bridges, and solos. For good riffs, I think about Steppenwolf's Born to be Wild, George Harrison's Wah-Wah, Metallica's Inamorata and Halo on Fire to name a few songs, Megadeth's Holy Wars and Symphony of Destruction, ACDC's Thunderstruck, Deep Purple's Highway Star and Smoke on the Water, Tom Petty's American Girl, Fault Lines, and You Wreck Me to name a few again. I also think about a lot more than Hendrix, again I don't listen to Hendrix and the impressions from those 2 songs on Guitar Hero World Tour is something to consider why. I didn't like Jim Morrison's vocals, but I found a liking to them like I do with Bon Scott's and Brian Johnson's. All I know is that Hendrix is only known for a couple of songs/riffs like Purple Haze. I don't see a huge issue liking someone better than someone else. Plus, with the Lakers fan thing, you're just a typical Hendrix loving guitar teacher ready and eager enough to show your students the "unique" techniques he used as if no one has put them in their repertoire.

    • @ItsMeBarnaby
      @ItsMeBarnaby 26 днів тому +2

      @@lakerfan2874 Nobody says someone is an American if they're from Canada or Mexico. Just admit you're wrong and don't try to move the goal posts. "Um well technically its in the continent" yap yap yap nerd.

    • @lakerfan2874
      @lakerfan2874 26 днів тому

      @ItsMeBarnaby Once more, Carlos Santana is a naturalized US citizen, so he does count as an American. At the time, there was no great guitarist in the US besides Hendrix and Santana. Plus, moving the goal post is something odd since a lot of people do call others as Americans. If we call Europeans, Europeans in general, why can't we in North and South America? It's like calling someone from Italy a European and a Lebanese a Middle Eastern even though their in the continent of Asia. So where's the middle ground for it. If we're going on region, then Mexico would just be a region of North America as it doesn't stretch the whole of Central America. There are 2 American continents and 3 American regions with America in the name, which are North, Central, and South America. In the US alone, we have multiple regions, which could be countries if there's ways for that to happen, like New England, Atlantic, Southeast, Central/Midwest, Southwest, and Pacific. Classifying someone as something is where everything is culturized. Calling me a nerd for geography lessons isn't something you should be doing since most Americans care less for geography and more into fashion, parties, and looks. I'd rather be knowledgeable than looking pretty because that's what society and culture desire most. Again, Santana has been a naturalized US citizen since 1965. Ethnicity and location of birth shouldn't hurt an argument about US guitar players of the 60s as there were barely any great players at that time. Hell, I'd add Johnny Cash for how he used his acoustic guitar as a percussion instrument by putting a playing card in between some strings.

  • @Tangent_Frank
    @Tangent_Frank Місяць тому +111

    I'm personally pro-bends, as i am a radiohead fan, and Johnny Greenwood very much uses these familiar yet exaggerated bends in his solos that feel very modern. I think the first guitar solo in paranoid android is the best example.

    • @TheAndradeCS
      @TheAndradeCS Місяць тому +16

      Is your fav album of them The Bends by any chance?

    • @bestwesterner
      @bestwesterner Місяць тому +22

      classic Radiohead fan self report

    • @jaykelley103
      @jaykelley103 Місяць тому +14

      Johnny Greenwood is so sick its unreal

    • @DeadpoolX9
      @DeadpoolX9 Місяць тому +7

      I think that’s cause their music is so “out there” that the bends almost sound like a stabilizing “grounding” force in an otherwise detached alien landscape

    • @Tangent_Frank
      @Tangent_Frank Місяць тому

      @@TheAndradeCS i love that the bends still gets love from the fanbase, given how early in their discog it is.

  • @GigaChad-hu3de
    @GigaChad-hu3de 17 днів тому +3

    Bucket head is the perfect combination of technicality and emotional playing

  • @tedd1659
    @tedd1659 Місяць тому +145

    The thing with modern guitarist is that they would probably show emotion while playing, but things they play are so hard that they need to focus on playing rather than emotion lmao. Its the same with Death, they would probably headbang in their prime but the songs literally needed so much focus to play and sing in the same time. And that was like almost 40 years ago.

    • @An4LDr1p616
      @An4LDr1p616 Місяць тому +37

      the thing is death is actually good and pariphery is not.

    • @tedd1659
      @tedd1659 Місяць тому +3

      @@An4LDr1p616 agreed, but some modern metal bands are good like polyphia or animals as leaders.

    • @torzee6489
      @torzee6489 Місяць тому

      theyre not lmao ​@@tedd1659

    • @jimmyb4812
      @jimmyb4812 Місяць тому +36

      It's more than just their stage presence. Albums like Symbolic and The Sound of Perseverance are highly technical, yes, but they still convey emotions and tell stories. Polyphia's music just lacks in the songwriting department so much. It feels almost like a bunch of jam sessions a group of skilled musicians would warm up with before they get to writing their evocative material, only that evocative material never comes.

    • @tedd1659
      @tedd1659 Місяць тому +2

      @@jimmyb4812 not really you can definetly see them having some kind of emotion and "feeling" the instrument. Bunch of times Tim while either performing live or on a video you can see him somewhat of headbanging and moving his head in a wierd way in which he probably shows his emotion. Also on the songwriting department most of modern metal is either Djent, metalcore or prog so basically 90% of modern metal music is about rythm which i think modern metal bands do very well, the other problem is that it somewhat sounds sterile and overproduced.

  • @lt.reubenrozeyt5716
    @lt.reubenrozeyt5716 Місяць тому +55

    "Play that *ticky tik tik tak tap tap bing* white boi."

    • @KarlKarsnark
      @KarlKarsnark Місяць тому

      To be fair, Tim is Asian and Tosin is very Black. White Bois are off the hook on this one.

    • @Dothreban
      @Dothreban 24 дні тому +1

      Say that five times fast. 😂

  • @BeesKneesBenjamin
    @BeesKneesBenjamin 28 днів тому +38

    And then there's this gray area where you have the best of both worlds. Players like Chet Atkins, Jerry Reed, etc can get quite technical but there's so much emotion in their playing, it's beautiful

  • @prism223
    @prism223 Місяць тому +52

    I like how guitarists like Guthrie Govan fuse technicality with feel and improvisation. Seems like the logical next step: boomer bend math rock synthesis.

    • @antparkasp
      @antparkasp Місяць тому +5

      Polvo was doing boomer bend math rock synthesis in the 90s and they fuckin rule

    • @meinbherpieg4723
      @meinbherpieg4723 Місяць тому +22

      Guthrie Govan is the guy who everyone should have been talking about for the last decade but I don't think the industry knew how to promote him. He's definitely a guitar player's guitarist.

    • @andrewsiemon
      @andrewsiemon 28 днів тому +4

      Agreed. I think Guthrie Govan is the best player to ever do it. Including players both alive and deceased. Bro has a great taste for melody and vibe but can also shred like an absolute monster. When I first saw his youtube videos about 10-15 years ago when they appeared on UA-cam I was absolutely floored. I didn't know anybody could even play like that.
      He also indirectly introduced me to players like Brett Garsed, Shawn Lane, and Frank Gambale and I was even more floored from there. I couldn't believe that I had been a fan of the guitar for over ten years and didn't know about those guys.

    • @aguaraguazu8461
      @aguaraguazu8461 27 днів тому

      ​@@meinbherpieg4723Everyone was talking about him 10 years ago, but you were probably listening to Imagine Dragons 🤡

  • @user-sj1ny1br3o
    @user-sj1ny1br3o Місяць тому +91

    One of my friends is a modern guitarist and is deep into metalcore. And he always told its about the techincal expression and loving being the center of attention that drives alot of modern guitar playing. I'm not a very technical bass player but thats why I enjoy sludge, doom, and stoner metal. I can play to it and savor the slower tempos and keep simpler, taking a less is more approach.

    • @canti7951
      @canti7951 Місяць тому +25

      Nothing really changed, flashy guitar solos, overplaying and not playing with the band have always been a thing. People just tend to follow trends and use them in generic, uninspired ways. I wouldn't blame modern guitar for that just as I won't blame eddie van halen for "inventing" tapping and the barrage of uninspired tapping solos thereafter.

    • @user-sj1ny1br3o
      @user-sj1ny1br3o Місяць тому +2

      @@canti7951 exactly its just a style someone start and others wanted to replicate. Thats the nature of music.

    • @tziirkq
      @tziirkq Місяць тому +5

      I make drone metal unironically. I find the simple and slow meandering is better for me to express a thought or a feeling. It's like when a writer can use simple language like Terry Pratchett, or can use as many different words as possible like some other writer that isn't Terry Pratchett I guess. Neither are particularly better than the other, because they both serve the same purpose but get their taking a different route. The real problem is when people, either fans or musicians, argue like twats that such and such is better than such and such because of such and such. But I will argue that Frank Black is one of the best composers we have.

    • @user-sj1ny1br3o
      @user-sj1ny1br3o Місяць тому +1

      @@tziirkq you're absolutely right about feeling and expression. And a big part of that comes from how long a Drone metal track can be. It just takes its time and really emphasizes atmosphere and melancholy. But alot people tend to think music needs to be high energy and exciting. Which make hyper technical playing typically more engaging and need something short and digestible. My guitarist friend also told when he listens to stuff its just stuff he can learn from, so its the same mentality of developing and honing his skill. Me personally taping into the sense of dread that Drone, Doom, and Sludge is a very powerful feeling that music can do that make us appreciate the the bright side even more. So really everyone wants different things in music and music is in reality fairly easy to make which is why their is so much of it and people will make what they want to listen to.

    • @DallasGunther
      @DallasGunther Місяць тому +2

      And yeah, sometimes less is more.

  • @matthewwalker5430
    @matthewwalker5430 Місяць тому +30

    1 thing I'm realising as I get older is that these "generational evolutions" are often less evolutions but fads. I remember back in the early 90s and there were MANY bands who the "boomers" would dismiss and we young Gen X'rs would laugh at their lack of musical knowledge. I still love many of those bands I used to listen to (and occasionally still do) but I know full well that their sound is very dated these days. However, the likes of Pink Floyd etc are listened to across generations for a reason. We cannot really judge "the music of today" until it has been around another couple of decades to know whether it was "of its time" or "timeless". I personally think it is that emotion conveyed in the playing of instruments, less the technicality, which really makes some bands transcend generations. I can appreciate the technicality in the moment, but 10 years later I probably won't really remember a highly technical song whereas songs which successfully transmit emotion and personality with themes that are eternally part of the human experience will always find a connexion

    • @collinsnow2203
      @collinsnow2203 19 днів тому +6

      This is exactly what I’ve been trying to get this toxic comment section to understand, finally nice to see someone so based. Music was always about feeling, not technicality. I only appreciate technicality if it serves the actual purpose of the story you’re trying to tell- otherwise, it’s just showing off for the sake of it.

    • @occasionalart7597
      @occasionalart7597 19 днів тому

      To be fair, I also think there can be a ton of fun to see an artist at the top of their game just show off what they're capable of, no matter the artistic medium
      But yes, the songs that truly stick around are the ones that truly have something to say, and you can only tell if a song, an album or an artist/band really is a classic with the benefit of hindsight

  • @necronemesist
    @necronemesist Місяць тому +11

    Being playing guitar for 20+ years, I can fully appreciate the development. I think Polyphia and ASL bands are pretty awesome, taking the instrument to the next phase (much better than the nu metal era I grew up in, sorry to say). When I first learned guitar, I too were inspired to be a guitar hero, tapping, sweeping, legatos in high gain were all I knew, I want to go faster and shred to the end. In recent decade, as I have less time to practise, and also with better patience and experience (perhaps due to aging), I have start to turn off the distortion, delays, and start to explore more into dynamics and phrasing, trying to make the notes convey feeling. I think its just a phase in life people go thru, I dont think a normal teen could appreciate players like BB King, Albert King, Freddy King.. I didn't, but if they hold on to playing music, Im sure they will learn to appreciate it eventually (unless they're Yngwie Malmsteen)...

  • @mrincorrect848
    @mrincorrect848 Місяць тому +231

    Ive never met someone with that Tim Henson signature that was good at guitar💀

  • @ganglestank
    @ganglestank Місяць тому +29

    Old jazz players were just as good as metal shredders

    • @gitsurfer27
      @gitsurfer27 27 днів тому +2

      Metal is technically harder to play from a purely physical standpoint, Jazz is much much harder musically.

    • @ganglestank
      @ganglestank 27 днів тому +7

      @@gitsurfer27 nah go look up alan holdsworth dude

    • @gitsurfer27
      @gitsurfer27 27 днів тому +1

      @@ganglestank I know holdsworth, not saying jazz can't be shreddy, but Holdsworth is famous for mixing heavy rock elements into his playing, thats where a lot of his shred comes from.

    • @ganglestank
      @ganglestank 27 днів тому +1

      @@gitsurfer27 Holdsworth existed in the 60s and 70s you know

    • @j.2512
      @j.2512 24 дні тому

      and what point did black people got so bad at music ? is like they discovered sampling and devolved into the stone age

  • @MadassAlex
    @MadassAlex Місяць тому +20

    I think the argument in this one is a miss because it doesn't interrogate its own assumptions. Before considering which technical or compositional techniques are in some sense inherently "emotional", it's assumed that emotion is inherently conveyed in music. But emotion is interpreted by an audience; even if it's intentionally conveyed by the musician, it may be unpacked very differently upon being heard. We can witness this effect all the time in upbeat, major key songs with dark lyrics, which might be used frequently in social settings for their directly musical qualities while the lyrical qualities are misunderstood or go unacknowledged.
    So before we can even discuss which techniques are "emotional", which was skipped over in this video, we have to discuss how emotion is expressed and interpreted in music and how those things are commonly misaligned. Which was also skipped over in this video.

    • @eliasmg9144
      @eliasmg9144 Місяць тому +4

      This is a good point tbh, valid criticism

    • @mattster693
      @mattster693 26 днів тому

      Tbh those kind of songs are confusing, what actual emotion is being expressed? The sadness of the lyrics or the happiness of the music? Why are those things together at all, it’s pretty hard to be happy and sad at the same time unless maybe you’re mentally ill, or maybe you’re confused? It just doesn’t make any logical or musical sense to me

    • @MadassAlex
      @MadassAlex 26 днів тому +2

      @@mattster693 I expect it's a form of dramatic irony, like the musical equivalent of people forcing a smile when they're miserable. Of course, between how common the technique is and how poor audiences are at interpreting it, I see it as a better technique on paper than it is in application.

    • @matturner6890
      @matturner6890 22 дні тому

      Seconded, great point.

    • @matturner6890
      @matturner6890 22 дні тому

      @@mattster693 I suspect a lot of (pop) songwriters are just too chickenshit to write something in a minor/ weirder key, even if the lyrics are ultra-depressing. Doesn't make money I guess..

  • @jonathalon6022
    @jonathalon6022 Місяць тому +29

    Blue eyed devil Coolea

  • @MuscleCarLover
    @MuscleCarLover 27 днів тому +4

    Bends are not something to be avoided, it's a form of self expression. It's flair and a way to personalise your playing, there's endless ways to bend a string and allows for your own subtle differences from the next guitarist.
    A guitar is an inherently imperfect instrument, and in terms of music, imperfection is perfection

  • @aidenknight6948
    @aidenknight6948 Місяць тому +12

    You should wear green face paint, sunglasses, and a wizard hat in your live action segments tbh. Oh, and some of those plastic vampire fangs to really complete the look

  • @clutch2827
    @clutch2827 Місяць тому +88

    Tim Henson trying to improvise with Vai watching is hilarious.

    • @funoolesbian4225
      @funoolesbian4225 Місяць тому +25

      Improvisation is always about understanding the box you're asked to run around free in. Ask them to think completely outside of those boxes like John Fahey or Mary Halvorson and they immediately appear terminally tacky.

    • @LongLiveRockAnRoll
      @LongLiveRockAnRoll Місяць тому +9

      Came here to say that. Tim was definitely out of his depth with that one.

    • @ruankuck3332
      @ruankuck3332 Місяць тому +11

      I mean... that is a lot of pressure

    • @asafoetidajones8181
      @asafoetidajones8181 Місяць тому +4

      Fahey was an incredible player. Pulled shit out of somewhere that was simultaneously pure tradition and bizarrely fresh.

    • @dungeonsanddobbers2683
      @dungeonsanddobbers2683 13 днів тому +1

      Looked this up after seeing this comment. The first video was a tiktok clip of Henson on stage doing improv with Steve Vai and the other Polyphia guitarist, and you can see on Henson's face that he knows he can't match the two guitarists he's sharing the stage with.
      There are moments early on where Vai just starts playing over Henson because the kid just doesn't have the chops, and later on it seems as if both Vai and LePage are playing over him as a way to help Henson "save face".

  • @tucoramirez2513
    @tucoramirez2513 Місяць тому +12

    Imo the best music that emotionally resonates with the listener. It could be from any genre or era. I know if I hear something that is technically impressive, but feels soulless I'm more likely to dismiss it as wankery.

  • @Rukiman_no16
    @Rukiman_no16 Місяць тому +27

    I know most people won't like this, but this is the most stupid debate ever.
    Listen whatever you want and create whatever you want.

  • @user-rt4ks5xr6w
    @user-rt4ks5xr6w Місяць тому +5

    Musical notation is a language and a way of communication, it has nothing to do with rules.

  • @danframpt0n
    @danframpt0n Місяць тому +4

    you're by far the best creator in this niche and i say that as someone who's fully rooted in this niche.

  • @DieysonGomesCC
    @DieysonGomesCC Місяць тому +6

    the sheer amount of memes this man has stored in his computer should be used as a preservation storage lmao
    btw, banger of a video. The quality of the scripts and presentation have been noticeably increasing through the latest uploads. Cool guy Coolea :)

  • @flyselbyhigh
    @flyselbyhigh Місяць тому +9

    I understand your criticisms of overly complicated music, but I feel deeply moved by polyphias music. Could be personal prefrence, but if you listen to him talk, his objective has not been to just make circle jerk prog muisc, but to push and expand music into a new and unknown territory.

    • @kitten-whisperer
      @kitten-whisperer 15 днів тому +1

      This right here. I can't stand the "there's no feel" people. Uh no. There's no feel to YOU. I don't "feel" anything to some boring blues riffs. That doesn't mean there isn't any "feeeeeel" in the song. But other gay ass guitarists refuse to acknowledge this

  • @MrRezRising
    @MrRezRising Місяць тому +8

    Pedicures are for toes.
    Manicures are for fingers.

    • @coolea
      @coolea  Місяць тому +3

      cds?

    • @MrRezRising
      @MrRezRising Місяць тому +1

      @@coolea You had mentioned, "...his pedicured fingers..." when you mentioned Tim in the beginning.
      Sorry to be so nerdy. 🙂

  • @Kitten_Party
    @Kitten_Party 19 днів тому +5

    Creating “boomer bends” will create more of a legacy for Henson than his playing lol. This video is literally r/guitarcirclejerk 😂

  • @lucaskopke6886
    @lucaskopke6886 Місяць тому +29

    I think john petrucci is like the culmination of the rock/metal guitarists from the 80s/90s while also pushing technicality and speed to crazy levels, he is the peak of the old guard and the trailblazer for the newer styles.

    • @bastianogr4960
      @bastianogr4960 Місяць тому +5

      A remarkable thing about John Petrucci is, how his playing used to sound very technical and shallow during his early years (still awesome though) and developed into this incredible blend of mind-blowing technique and multi-level feel. His playing today sounds so deep and soulful, despite the crazy technique. I think that's very rare.

  • @darekpeszt3640
    @darekpeszt3640 Місяць тому +18

    I'm 42 years old and when I heard CAFO by Animals as Leaders for the first time my jaw dropped and I was instantly a fan. And as for the younguns; every generation craps on their parent's music. Give them a decade and many of them will learn to appreciate what came before.

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 20 днів тому +6

      The thing is, Tim doesn't crap on old music. In fact, he loves stuff like Hendrix and plenty of music that uses these so called "boomer bends" lol his tastes are incredibly varied too. From pop, to r&b, to metal, to classical, to Japanese hyperpop and anime stuff. He is very much an open book when it comes to what he likes to listen to and anybody who has actually followed him throughout Polyphia's entire life knows this because each and every Polyphia album sounds entirely different than the last one specifically BECAUSE of how varied the band's musical influences are. Their music may not be for everyone, but there is absolutely no denying the musicality and creativity behind those fellas.
      People just took one phrase he said out of context and decided to make a big stink about it even several years after the fact he's already explained that he never meant the term as an insult.

    • @Frawt
      @Frawt 12 днів тому

      @@justsomeguy727 Boomers are massive snowflakes in general, so if you use the word "boomer" in relation to anything in any context, they'll have an absolute shitfit.

  • @esteban.r11
    @esteban.r11 Місяць тому +30

    I think its not just about younger generations disliking bending but disliking the blues overall. I think bending can still sound fresh but most of the time its heard within the context of guitarists using them in the pentatonic boxes that they love so much, which makes them sound bluesy and old-timey.

    • @desuretard8654
      @desuretard8654 Місяць тому +14

      Ouch that's gotta suck. I'm not surprised they don't have any influence from blues. I guess that's why I find all the new age stuff dreadfully boring.

    • @KarlKarsnark
      @KarlKarsnark Місяць тому +10

      The main problem with "modern" American music is that is has lost the feel of the Blues, even dance music is just a glorified click-track. The best notes ARE the "Blue" notes, which are all the ones Tim won't play. He's just a meme. Nothing more.

    • @sigiligus
      @sigiligus Місяць тому

      Comments prove why zoomers are sick of blues based music. It’s just a bunch of shitty seething boomers screeching over how their youth was the absolute supreme peak of all culture and how the rest of time til the sun explodes should live in permanent awe inspired reverence of the holy 60’s & 70’s.

    • @dylanphelan3010
      @dylanphelan3010 28 днів тому +3

      traditional blues not being the predominant style of music isn't a bad thing. Classical had no influence from blues and some of the best music in recorded history came from that (granted modern music isn't all that good in general, but you get my point). It has nothing to do with a blues influence and more so the industry and consumers not being encouraged to go seek different forms of music that they might enjoy.

    • @matturner6890
      @matturner6890 22 дні тому

      @@KarlKarsnark the autotune won't play nice in the mix if you don't hyper-tune the guitars and avoid blue notes altogether :/ lame af, I know

  • @PRODVCER
    @PRODVCER 29 днів тому +3

    I love the music of Polyphia. As guitarists, we express ourselves in many different ways. Whether it is through technicality, raw emotion, effects layering, string attack or utilizing pedals, it is all just different ways to express ourselves and convey it the best we can in our art.

  • @ES-qm5hr
    @ES-qm5hr Місяць тому +11

    1940s Strat? What?

    • @jessehutchings
      @jessehutchings 28 днів тому

      He's having a slight giggle at how Fender enthusiasts seem to think older is always better for some reason

    • @jessehutchings
      @jessehutchings 28 днів тому +1

      Old guitars just had more 'mojo' 😂

    • @badbeardbill9956
      @badbeardbill9956 25 днів тому

      Yes I would want a 1940s strat because that’s literally impossible

  • @Verethraghnah
    @Verethraghnah Місяць тому +2

    The earliest surviving stringed instruments to date are the Lyres of Ur, plucked chordophones, which currently exist in fragments that date back to 4,500 years ago. The first bowed chordophones were probably developed in central Asia and were the forerunners of an Indian folk instrument known as the ravanastron.
    Sumer, 26th C. BCE. The Schøyen Collection, Oslo. Instruments of ancient Mesopotamia include harps, lyres, lutes, reed pipes, and drums.

  • @Grim_Jesus
    @Grim_Jesus Місяць тому +39

    Babe wake up, new coolea video.

  • @Alex-vm6ef
    @Alex-vm6ef Місяць тому +4

    Great video, I'd love to hear you talk more about the topic of technicality and musicality.
    I feel like the fact that music existed for so long before notation is lost on many people, even musicians

    • @funoolesbian4225
      @funoolesbian4225 Місяць тому +3

      It's important to distinguish between a juggler and an artist. The general function of art is to inspire awe. If an artist can produce that awe with barely passable technique, then that artist may be a genius.

  • @alexh2528
    @alexh2528 27 днів тому +4

    This video pretty much tells me what’s wrong with every generation of guitarists since the 60s; you all seem to believe that guitar exists in some kind of rock-vacuum and completely ignore the instruments existence in classical, jazz, flamenco, R&B, disco etc.
    Modern virtuosos look to these fringe-genres and include their styles into modern alternative music, these genres are much more technical than blues rock yet have a ton of emotional depth because playing emotionally is nothing more than controlling dynamics, tempo and pitch.
    The boomer bends thing is clearly flippant humour, and of course this kid respects Jimi, you can hear a ton of it in his playing. As a musician in their 40s who has enjoyed most popular generations of guitar I believe this blanket conceptualisation of “feel” in music needs to end and we should embrace players who seek to push the medium further.

    • @flyingpiggy1475
      @flyingpiggy1475 27 днів тому +1

      “Emotion vs technical” is so stupid.
      As a drummer, I don't see this divide in our culture. There are probably some people who are like “You are doing too much” in response to drummers but they are most likely right.
      Drummers do stupid shit, but that's just because we like pushing our boundaries of what we can play. The only rules we generally have is
      1. Keep time
      2. Support the band
      3. Sound good.
      We are forced to learn genres and styles that make us expand our understanding of music and really understand how we matter to the band.

    • @DeNieuweBeelding
      @DeNieuweBeelding 12 днів тому +2

      Pray God spare us from classical-jazz-flamenco alternative music.

  • @ultimateformulations
    @ultimateformulations 21 день тому +1

    Double dip: something to remember with "boomer bends" is that they sound amazing when high on lsd. I mean, that one note sustained had the secrets of the universe visually pulsing through your consciousness. I had one older guy I know flip out when he heard Tim Henson play because he said, and I quote: "That sounds exactly like what my stupid old ass has been hearing for 60 years now but he's actually playing it!" He died later that day from depression and really for just "not having any use on this planet anymore"- his words. I, personally, think he was a wonderful person and that boomers really are a very thoughtful, balanced and frankly generous generation of people overall.

  • @keystep8669
    @keystep8669 22 години тому

    Thanks for showing a clip of Death. I think only metalheads often recognize how important Chuck was to the development of guitar playling.

  • @theextreem
    @theextreem 12 днів тому +3

    People who dislike Polyphia act like they’re saying something so profound by going “I’m not a fan of this genre of music”

    • @jojop6387
      @jojop6387 3 дні тому

      Not really, they’re just stating their preference. You think they think they’re saying something profound, which is called projection. Yeah objectively it’s technical and even sounds decent but if it doesn’t resonate with someone, it just doesn’t. That’s why genres and sub genres exist, not everyone’s musical taste is the same

  • @worldsheaviestjamband93
    @worldsheaviestjamband93 28 днів тому +7

    Never trust a historical instrument video that pronounces Baroque as Ba-Row-Kay.

    • @JoshButterballs
      @JoshButterballs 27 днів тому

      youtubers mispronounce words so people like you can leave comments. too bad this channel creator seems to be a plant/youtube corporate favorite. grey mushy and inoffensive content to scatter ads into.

    • @mark6302
      @mark6302 23 дні тому

      if it's not baroque don't fix it

  • @b.w.22
    @b.w.22 Місяць тому

    Honestly, this is pretty solid analysis. But also, seeing your mug for the first time swipes me just how apt your little goblin/gremlin avatar is. So funny, dude. Anyway, good job.

  • @haidaraalkhayer5767
    @haidaraalkhayer5767 Місяць тому +9

    This the first video i've seen with coolea's actual face and for about 5 seconds i was trying to understand that it wasn't a sped up footage of someone rambling. This channel dissociates me from reality and i like it

  • @PastorKaspar
    @PastorKaspar 24 дні тому +3

    It’s amazing the way you get AI voice simulation out of a live recording…

  • @the_end00101
    @the_end00101 Місяць тому +142

    Boomer Bends > pansy plucks

  • @GraphiteBlimp27
    @GraphiteBlimp27 29 днів тому +1

    29 year old here. My favorite band will always be Led Zeppelin because I owe them so much with my rock/guitar awakening, but I’m super into the modern prog movement and Polyphia as well. I don’t take any offense to what Tim said. I can’t remember where I heard this, but in order to innovate you have to limit yourself. If Tim just played the same way guitarists have been playing for 60 years now, he’d just be another guy. It’s not bad to play Boomer Bends, even today. Tosin Abasi plays many complex modern riffs and innovates, but some of my favorite songs of his contain emotional bends in the solos. There are even emotional bends in Polyphia songs, although as their career has progressed that has become less and less common. Fact of the matter is, it’s possible to appreciate many artists of many drastically different styles of both music and guitar.

  • @normandy2501
    @normandy2501 29 днів тому +1

    I found that bands like Radiohead, Porcupine Tree, Opeth, and Plini can give me a mix of complexity and emotional relevance that I enjoy at this point. Allan Holdsworth and Kurt Rosenwinkel are also guitarists who can still get a reaction out of me through their respective complexity, but I also love what Hendrix was able to get across with just one note in Machine Gun.

  • @danielflanard8274
    @danielflanard8274 Місяць тому +50

    "Boomers" and Gen-Z share one thing in common, parts of each generation are incredibly easy to offend. You can make a 40+ year old man spin out over the smallest things all the while they call young people sensitive.

    • @sentientdogma1206
      @sentientdogma1206 Місяць тому +5

      40 + year old man? Get your math straight. Gen x started 60 years ago lmao. Baby boomers are 60 years old at their youngest. The generation you’re thinking of is Gen x which is what my parents are as a person of the very youngest millennial generation. Zoomers and Generation X have so much in common, and the millennials are the truly forgotten generation. No one listens or cares about us, zoomers are annoying, gen x are annoying, and boomers are complete dinosaurs by now

    • @danielflanard8274
      @danielflanard8274 Місяць тому +20

      @@sentientdogma1206
      Hey pal, notice how I put "Boomers" in quotation marks? That is because young people commonly use to it to refer to anyone over the age of 30 and/or those who are out of touch. It has become a modern way to call someone a fogey. I understand that the actual Baby Boomer generation is geriatric. I do not appreciate you condescendingly trying to correct me.

    • @KarlKarsnark
      @KarlKarsnark Місяць тому +2

      Boomers are in their 60s and 70s. LOL! Gen X is 40s and made great music. 90s were the "Golden Age" of almost every genre from Rap to Metal to Pop and even some of the Boomers were still going strong. Now, we have AI Nintendo knock offs. Hooray, we suck!

    • @KarlKarsnark
      @KarlKarsnark Місяць тому

      @@danielflanard8274 Then use a term correctly. That's why we have them. You twinks really do ree-out easily. LOL! Go get your troon juice and calm down. LOL!

    • @OtherlingQueen
      @OtherlingQueen Місяць тому +4

      @@sentientdogma1206 your point was proven lmfao

  • @malevolent5496
    @malevolent5496 27 днів тому +10

    I can't have comfortably numb, purple haze, hotel California, and champagne(a polyphia song) all in one playlist cuz I must conform to internet arguments.

  • @jibbyjibjib
    @jibbyjibjib 29 днів тому

    Gotta say the editing and the content is top tier. Big ups G we movin' savannah koi packs on the ranger ya dig.

  • @TedDiabetes
    @TedDiabetes Місяць тому +3

    Imagine collaborating with Steve Vai and not writing a single key change.

  • @biohazard8295
    @biohazard8295 Місяць тому +12

    If we forget a moment about the cultural and historic value of classic rock/blues etc, there is a significant difference that is often overlooked. Music nowadays tends to be made in a more mechanical and refined way, expecially thanks to computers and easy access to music recording. I prefer the older way of actually playing music on the record, instead of many parts that end up becoming a song when out togheter. Even in the old days they used the studio to modify and push some aspects to create the best product, but it was more natural and groovy. Nowadays (expecially with rock/metal music) there is a focus on "attack" of the notes, a more staccato feel, that has no swing to it. And it's not about speed either, it's simply the feel and vibe musicians put into it.
    I respect so much guys like Polyphia, Animals as leaders etc but when i listen to early Santana records i go into a trance. The way the distorted guitar adds melody and so many harmonic nuances is insane to me. It's also something that is evident when the music is played live; i would rather listen a slow guitar player who has full control of his bends and the feedback of the amp, rather than a virtuoso shredder who plays with tons of distorsion and noisegate, without providing any emotional depth to what he plays.
    Again, this is not a diss to modern musicians, just my two cents on something i am recently discovering about the way i listen and appreciate music.
    IMO these modern virtuoso players are pushing the envelope and evolving the music, but they are more of technicians of their art rather than artists that will be the soundtrack of this generations of musicians, artists in a more "traditional" way, if that makes any sense lol.
    P.S. i wrote this before i watched the video hope i won't sound stupid

  • @gregoryvigneault1824
    @gregoryvigneault1824 6 днів тому

    There is a difference between playing music to express feelings and thoughts, and making 'music' just as a challenge to prove how skilled one is.

  • @ultimateformulations
    @ultimateformulations 21 день тому +1

    I once wrote a solo for a song that was just a high D note and bending it. After about 1.5 minutes of this the audience usually stops sincerely cheering and starts laughing. I suppose subconsciously I was taking the piss out of classic rock solos- or more accurately hacks that think they're soloing. That said, I have almost no skills other than a decent ear. Like, I can "find that D" but when I say it out loud it just sounds wrong somehow.

  • @gypsydildopunks7083
    @gypsydildopunks7083 Місяць тому +3

    The original reverb petal was called "Help, I'm trapped in a giant coffee can device"

  • @radthepaisley
    @radthepaisley Місяць тому +39

    The amount of players that think "technical means no emotion" leaves me flabbergasted. Good vid.

    • @LongLiveRockAnRoll
      @LongLiveRockAnRoll Місяць тому +6

      I always ask those people to "define emotion" in a musical context. Speed can be used to show feelings like anger, excitement and just over the top chaos.

    • @milkwalkerjones633
      @milkwalkerjones633 Місяць тому +2

      You'd think people like that would really enjoy Prurient and the like but they turn up their nose at that too

    • @GeorgiyM.
      @GeorgiyM. Місяць тому +1

      *Julian Lage has entered the chat*

    • @Billiamwoods
      @Billiamwoods 28 днів тому +7

      A lot of the time the people who say a style or band lacks emotion just don't connect with or understand the emotional goal of that music. Polyphia's music is heavily produced and "clean" as a conscious decision to create a very surreal and ethereal soundscape. Not all "emotion" is doing le guitar face to exaggerated bends.

    • @oshke5225
      @oshke5225 28 днів тому +1

      @@Billiamwoods Well said. I never understood why boomers have a difficult time understanding this. Technicality is just another way to convey certain emotions.

  • @VintageBalderdash
    @VintageBalderdash Місяць тому +2

    Imo bends are blues, that’s why I do them. They are literally adding and alleviating tension.

  • @BigMacAttack83
    @BigMacAttack83 Місяць тому

    A new coolea video made my Sunday instantly 1000 times better. Thanks dude!

    • @BigMacAttack83
      @BigMacAttack83 Місяць тому

      That comment totally made me sound like a bot lol, but I mean it. I've probably watched 95+% of your videos and am genuinely excited when I see you post a new video. Also I'm pretty stoned 😆

  • @jbank7547
    @jbank7547 Місяць тому +35

    I feel like some people can come off as feeling "superior" in a way, because the music they listen to was birthed from a certain political or cultural agenda. It's as if people who want to make music just for the sake of making music are automaticaly considered "soulless" or lacking of emotion.
    People listen to music in different ways, and something that may appear to be regurgitated diarrhea to one person, may hit some deep rooted emotional strings in other people.

    • @iohannesfactotum
      @iohannesfactotum Місяць тому +4

      As a nu metal fan, i approve this message.

    • @sashakozlov8217
      @sashakozlov8217 Місяць тому +5

      Yep. Part of the issue is that "feel" can be interpreted through other avenues besides the traditional bends and vibrato. Looking through the music with that lens, of course new technical guitar playing sounds empty and soulless.

    • @Nobddy
      @Nobddy Місяць тому +8

      Well, making music with no message, no conviction, and no connection to the craft is kind of definitionally soulless, so yeah. Tim Henson is a talented guitarist and a crappy songwriter. It’s not hard to understand.

    • @jbank7547
      @jbank7547 Місяць тому +15

      @@Nobddy thank god music is subjective

    • @milkwalkerjones633
      @milkwalkerjones633 Місяць тому +9

      @@NobddyThe OP debunked this before you even wrote it lol

  • @ryanhass8716
    @ryanhass8716 Місяць тому +3

    I took Tim Henson's comments as just not being a big fan of things like unison bends, and by extension, a lot of repetitive pentatonic licks that every classic rock band and modern rock band and a lot of metal bands, tend to use a LOT. I don't really understand what the "controversy" is. A guy giving an opinion that upsets some elderly people regarding the music that he prefers to write?
    I'd imagine that if Polyphia were to write music that sounded too much like what 'boomers' like, they'd be accused of being unoriginal and just aping off the success of bands that came before them. Not to mention, their sound changed pretty dramatically between Renaissance and The Most Hated, they seemed to incorporate a lot more elements that are reminiscent of trap music and what have you, having that "overproduced" sound that some people dislike. I think that it's pretty obvious that Tim Henson is insanely talented, and I would imagine that trying to incorporate other more popular genres into his own music is probably quite rewarding for him.

  • @alexanders562
    @alexanders562 3 дні тому

    generations have been doing this forever. Melodic evolves, gains momentum, the "faster cleaner" approach, and then is resented for a more human style. If it is based on melody, dance, song, actual 'human' things, you will get the tug of war. If I came to dance and you shred I will be disappointed. If I came to sit and listen and you play for dance, I will resent the repetitiveness and similar tempos.

  • @bluglass7819
    @bluglass7819 Місяць тому

    That’s funny about Henson. I’m just past the edge of being a boomer. I bought a 36’ L-7 years ago and didn’t want to have to replace frets so I limited bends and vibrato while playing it. I noticed when I do it has much more impact so it in turn impacted my “style”.

  • @Michal-je1hx
    @Michal-je1hx Місяць тому +16

    For me, emotions are the most important thing in music, complicated techniques can be phenomenal when they are used FOR emotions, but when we focus on technique for technique's sake, we lose what music has always been about - emotions

  • @Falxifer95
    @Falxifer95 Місяць тому +4

    I wonder where does 80's noise rock falls in this silly discussion because I'm pretty sure both the hard rock/prog turbonerds and djent and metalcore degenerates would get flabbergasted at prepared guitars and how Sonic Youth and Big Black played their guitars.

    • @alleygh0st
      @alleygh0st Місяць тому +3

      and Polvo in the 90s

    • @freq9939
      @freq9939 Місяць тому +2

      Swans, sonic youth, Blind Idiot God, unwound big fan of noise rock

    • @Falxifer95
      @Falxifer95 Місяць тому +1

      @@freq9939 same

    • @freq9939
      @freq9939 Місяць тому

      One would say it’s progressive in it’s own right or regressive haha

  • @flyingpiggy1475
    @flyingpiggy1475 27 днів тому +2

    Y'all, grow the fuck up. Be expressive of the art. Pull from the past and expand on it to push it foreword.

  • @hiighcalibre
    @hiighcalibre 26 днів тому +1

    ... and then there are the players like Paul Gilbert who marry the rapid fire technical arpeggio spewing of the 80s and blues influence. That kind of stuff can still retain a sense of melody and expression in every fill and transition.

  • @bengunderman5382
    @bengunderman5382 27 днів тому +4

    "1940s Strat" ffs

  • @CristianRodriguez-tz3iz
    @CristianRodriguez-tz3iz Місяць тому +3

    Coolea face reveal jump scare

  • @evanlee93
    @evanlee93 3 дні тому +1

    the current wave of technical guitarists makes me wholeheartedly regret commenting "ok now play it clean" on everything 10-15 years ago. That being said, I wish I had the skill and motivation to learn how to play that style, so I could add it into my repertoire of guitar techniques.

  • @Zumanji__
    @Zumanji__ 17 днів тому

    Best part being born in the 90’s in this regard is enjoying the music left behind by artist and seeing new music unfold, to which it could be considered alien back then as you mentioned earlier. 🤘🏾

  • @davidbeddoe6670
    @davidbeddoe6670 Місяць тому +7

    The whole point of "bending" was always to approximate just-intonation on an instrument that wasn't designed for melody in the first place.

  • @STRANGEANATOMYBAND
    @STRANGEANATOMYBAND Місяць тому +17

    The best kind of complicated, technical music, is the kind that sounds deceptively simple, or that still manages to convey an emotion through an actual song. Virtuosity for virtuosity’s sake is not art, it’s sports.

    • @MrKingkz
      @MrKingkz 27 днів тому +3

      I agree with 100 percent Virtuosity can be useful but i dont remember any Steve Vai riffs but i remember most of Nirvana riffs

    • @zaydjawad3653
      @zaydjawad3653 27 днів тому +1

      ​@@MrKingkzTbf Vai still makes some bangers but yeah I agree with the og point

    • @gitsurfer27
      @gitsurfer27 27 днів тому +2

      @@MrKingkz I'm a fan of both in some ways, although i totally agree, Vai is like a teacher showing his students techniques that only they care about, Cobain plays timeless music from the soul. Technically Vai is a better guitarist, but that means nothing when we're talking about music. Tim Henson is another virtuoso thats very good and plays good technically, but i would never sit and listen to a Polyphia album.

    • @Yvs8962
      @Yvs8962 22 дні тому +1

      Agreed, but Polyphia is far from virtuosity for virtuosities sake. They compose a lot of banger melodies within all the technique. People act like their songs are just technical vomit and spamming sweep scales, when Ive never heard a song theyve made that lacks a hook and melody. I literally have a video of them live where they stop playing mid-riff and the crowd sings back their guitar parts to them.

  • @greasergaming156
    @greasergaming156 Місяць тому

    Loving the consistent uploads, hope to see whats in store 💯

  • @eti313
    @eti313 27 днів тому +2

    I can't believe that you never once mentioned Tim Henson.

  • @EveyoneCallsMeTheDude
    @EveyoneCallsMeTheDude 28 днів тому +9

    I feel like music like Tim Henson and his contemporaries play is more “music for musicians” and theirs noting wrong with that.
    It’s not my cup of tea but I can appreciate the skill and work that goes into it.

    • @solivoritor
      @solivoritor 23 дні тому +4

      To be fair, it's mostly instrumental music and it has always been like this.

    • @kevinsmoon3257
      @kevinsmoon3257 14 днів тому

      I’m a musician nor particularly good or anything but i dont really like polyphia. It just is too much for me and it’s muddy in my opinion. I always say that the main goal of all the instruments is to serve the song but polyphia is just so emotionless and way too over produced. It is over complicated to the point that the song is no longer being served instead you are just complicating riffs and melodies Because you can not because it fits

    • @solivoritor
      @solivoritor 13 днів тому

      @@kevinsmoon3257 I'm not a musician but I dabble a little bit in the instrument and quite frankly I personally don't have problem with their music anymore.
      It's wasn't easy for me to understand the melodies/songs nor was it easy for me to find "emotion" in them at first, I still kinda like them even if I didn't get it, at first. Well, not all but most of the songs. But with time I started to understand it, melodically and "emotionally" and started loving it and so imo, they still follow the rules of the instruments serving the music.
      As for production, yeah, it's inspired by pop music, it's bound to have extremely high production. I mean these guys work with rappers and pop stars most of the time.
      All-in-all Polyphia is very niched music, it's divisive; not everyone is going to vibe with them and there's nothing wrong with that, human tastes is quite subjective and is inspired by the experiences we went through and that includes music. But as someone that does vibe with it, I have to say, it has been my favourite over the years.

    • @kevinsmoon3257
      @kevinsmoon3257 13 днів тому

      @@solivoritor and that’s completely fine my friend. It just is something to me that i dont think i can really get into. Don’t get me wrong i understand the complexity of their music but it just isnt my thing

    • @solivoritor
      @solivoritor 13 днів тому

      @@kevinsmoon3257 it's all cool, man.

  • @erik4121
    @erik4121 Місяць тому +9

    The first strats were build in the 50s, not the 40s

  • @MedalionDS9
    @MedalionDS9 13 днів тому

    It constantly amazes me how people have completely taken the original phrase/usage of Boomer Bends to mean a million things to divide how a young Millennial and older guitarists play their style of guitar. Tim Henson coined the term during a Rick Beato interview and he was not putting down all bending in guitar as a Boomer thing or sound. He was referencing ONE SPECIFIC STYLE of bending that was commonly used that could be arguably used by benders but was not an indictment of all bending. Tim does use bends in his playing too.

  • @eucberserker9049
    @eucberserker9049 4 дні тому

    Tim’s Berserk sweater gives him instant cred in my eyes…he’s an alright guy now…

  • @JusticeforLiberty
    @JusticeforLiberty Місяць тому +137

    "Soulless and overproduced" , perfectly describes Tim Henson.