they were most likely thinking that it would be a fun character design that would be unique and could have a high skill ceiling and theyre putting him into the CLOSED ALPHA to test to see how to balance him. most likely what they were thinking.
So what was the fucking point of Labs? 🤔 Vyper was already broken in Labs and they released it as is. Meanwhile, they completely reworked Nano and released her bypassing the Labs entirely.
Are you dumb? It’s literally called hero LABS. If you didn’t think some of the characters would get big changes then you’re just dumb and have no understanding of how things work.
How to nerf Vyper: Don't modify any of their stats -- instead any time they're sliding they play the bitcrushed Green Hill Zone track, DAYYYYTOOONAAAAAA, Super Sonic Racing, Deja Vu, etc... Also. Ivy -> Adorable stone gargoyle. Vyper, silly snek that turns people into stone. The Poshy connection natural.
Just illustrates how strong sliding is when you have even some directional control and unlimited magazine size while sliding. Although the venom damage is insane considering anyone at half health risks being rushed down for a kill.
@@TarotNatherssliding has always been strong, I do it all the time w infernus to extend mag and get free burns. But now they gave a character with double the base dps as any character at lvl0 with an enhanced slide and an execute?? Literally zero logical reasoning for this character to be in the game like this lmao
I feel like the most obvious and appropriate nerf is to just nerf his ammo size and especially reload time. This doesn't affect the slide, but punishes him otherwise, which leans into the design and further rewards good play
why does she get so much free resist while sliding too? That shit is fucking retarded. Small hit box AND fast slides AND gets insane amount of resists???? What the actual fuck.
he has infinite ammo cuz of his slide. Nerfing ammo doesnt do anythng. Guy could be having 1 ammo and still shoot infinitly. Biggest nerf would be nerfing his Fire Rate. The FR is busted. I am playing him and doing 1k+ dps.. everyone is melting
@@Niksaiznemts they could just give em a clip of 1 so you're forced to slide, and maybe nerf the stam down by like one so you have to utilize it as your main damage resource
Just give her passive a trade off of boosted ammo on next mag while sliding on a cooldown instead of getting infinite ammo like any other character. Ie. "This character doesn't recieve infinite ammo when sliding. When you slide immediately get 200% ammo in your mag (20 sec cooldown) +25% slide duration"
Ya know they had a whole month to cook and have had labs up for awhile and still release the character like this is WILD to me. Like there broken characters and then there are oppresive characters id rather deal with pre nerf shiv then this shit
I just somehow managed to win a game against a cracked vyper. By then end she had over 1,400 dps. It was insane. Our whole team had to build around her
i dont think she NEEDS a nerf, but holliday DEF need. you played against a bad holliday, wait till you see how much damage her 3rd ability does, especially in laning phase
the item cards you are putting on screen are out of date btw, resto shot is a 9 second cooldown for example
Its too forgiving: sliding uphill, basically infinite stamina, extended slide. What were they thinking?
Unironic hopoo moment
they werent
The problem is that is extremely unique but also quite op because that's basically infinite ammo.
they were most likely thinking that it would be a fun character design that would be unique and could have a high skill ceiling and theyre putting him into the CLOSED ALPHA to test to see how to balance him. most likely what they were thinking.
the fact that you survive 9:55, able to fight 3 people at 180hp and get away with it is just a joke
So what was the fucking point of Labs? 🤔 Vyper was already broken in Labs and they released it as is. Meanwhile, they completely reworked Nano and released her bypassing the Labs entirely.
Saying nano with no context is like using "orion" earnestly
My thoughts exactly
so far for me, calico got change. no more cat turret
calico was a good rework too. idk what the data they gathered is but as long as they nerf vyper soon is all good
Are you dumb? It’s literally called hero LABS. If you didn’t think some of the characters would get big changes then you’re just dumb and have no understanding of how things work.
How to nerf Vyper: Don't modify any of their stats -- instead any time they're sliding they play the bitcrushed Green Hill Zone track, DAYYYYTOOONAAAAAA, Super Sonic Racing, Deja Vu, etc...
Also. Ivy -> Adorable stone gargoyle. Vyper, silly snek that turns people into stone. The Poshy connection natural.
They should make slide an ability where u pop it and u can slide along for a few seconds instead of giving bro 8 stamina
Just illustrates how strong sliding is when you have even some directional control and unlimited magazine size while sliding. Although the venom damage is insane considering anyone at half health risks being rushed down for a kill.
@@TarotNatherssliding has always been strong, I do it all the time w infernus to extend mag and get free burns. But now they gave a character with double the base dps as any character at lvl0 with an enhanced slide and an execute?? Literally zero logical reasoning for this character to be in the game like this lmao
I feel like the most obvious and appropriate nerf is to just nerf his ammo size and especially reload time. This doesn't affect the slide, but punishes him otherwise, which leans into the design and further rewards good play
Just get rid of him
why does she get so much free resist while sliding too? That shit is fucking retarded. Small hit box AND fast slides AND gets insane amount of resists???? What the actual fuck.
If they only did that, she'd still be just as OP while sliding. They need to adjust DPS numbers first and foremost, then work from there
he has infinite ammo cuz of his slide. Nerfing ammo doesnt do anythng. Guy could be having 1 ammo and still shoot infinitly. Biggest nerf would be nerfing his Fire Rate. The FR is busted. I am playing him and doing 1k+ dps.. everyone is melting
@@Niksaiznemts they could just give em a clip of 1 so you're forced to slide, and maybe nerf the stam down by like one so you have to utilize it as your main damage resource
man deadlock is such a cool game
Better nerf Paradox
And remove Bebop
Just give her passive a trade off of boosted ammo on next mag while sliding on a cooldown
instead of getting infinite ammo like any other character.
Ie.
"This character doesn't recieve infinite ammo when sliding.
When you slide immediately get 200% ammo in your mag (20 sec cooldown)
+25% slide duration"
Gun ivy fans are eating good with this patch.
what made them think giving a hero a A-10 Warthog gatling gun with infinite ammo was a good idea
YOSHI probably: I have seen enough nerf pocket
Waiting for that holiday to pop from venom was SO satisfying.
look at the dps values while hovering over characters, everyone has like 250dps and vyper casually with no full build has 800dps :DD
tesla bullets not the call lmao
its good to activate bullet resist shredder and suppressor though
@@xavmarz755 i dont think they had either when tesla was bought tho. I was definitely a bit confused at the choice lol
This doesn’t feel right, but boy does it look like fun
Anyone else amazed by the incredible aim in this video? The way he locks on to targets moving around is sick
14:56 ammo buff - absolutely cursed ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
well they just made the game worse.. matchmaking today has been crazy, the new heroes are broooken and the winter skins are gone :(
On which button do you have crouch/slide bound? I just can’t slide due to the aquward button position.
Put slide on alt key
Ya know they had a whole month to cook and have had labs up for awhile and still release the character like this is WILD to me. Like there broken characters and then there are oppresive characters id rather deal with pre nerf shiv then this shit
I have a glitch where default crosshair is on viper, does anyone else have this?
oh shit you were the viper in that game lmao
9:53 Damn! Playing slippery as it should be!
i think the problem is viper is mosg useless character in low elo, idk how they can balance that
she looks so fun holy moly
16:22 lmao apache helicopter moment
Great. Another left click build. You're having fun ?
is it not a third person shooter? 💀
aiming is fun, and this game is a shooter, so youre going to be doing alot of aiming. if you dont find that fun either play another character or game
Vyper is not real she cant hurt you
wow that guy is nutty 💀
150 dps early lvl 1 btw lmfao
I just somehow managed to win a game against a cracked vyper. By then end she had over 1,400 dps. It was insane. Our whole team had to build around her
MAXIMUM DAKKA
Well that was quick
No, she's fine, leave her!
I MUST DRIFT!
UNACCEPTABLE.
low elo lobby😂
Ok elitist prick
Agree! completely!!
i dont think she NEEDS a nerf, but holliday DEF need. you played against a bad holliday, wait till you see how much damage her 3rd ability does, especially in laning phase
did we watch the same video?
@zulol 1 stun and it's over for viper.
@@JeAga_you are initiate
At least holiday takes some skill to get those one shot headshots this character and magician are just ridiculous
@@kanyewest6120 +250 hours is initiate?
infinite ammo should not be a thing, wtf is this shit lmao xd
only when sliding.