Wayne Dalton Torquemaster Plus Springs POV Tutorial Replacement
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Why is there no love for the Wayne Dalton Torquemaster Plus springs? It's a sleek design. It was made for the 9100 model garage door. It offers a safety drop feature to mitigate a door collapse. And yet I know so many garage door techs show no love for this type of garage door spring system. In this video we provide you some Pro Tips in a POV (point of view) style tutorial that might help with you with your next Torquemaster spring replacement.
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THANK YOU. nobody was willing to change my springs. Now i can do it myself.
Great video. I really appreciate the "How to for dummys" approach. I'm a part-time home fixer-uper with a limited tool selection so this video was just right for me. 👍🏻
I am glad it was helpful! Thank you for the feedback. Stay safe party person.
Great video! My dad and I tackled this on a Sunday and compared to the quote I got for $1,100 to replace the spring, was very glad I went DIY. I just have a single spring so parts of the process were slightly different but got ‘er done!
Hello! So glad it worked out for you!
Love the POV recording
Very informative video. I had no clue about this version of garage door spring until our garage door broke. Links to parts was very helpful, although mine is a 148lb and it is not one of them. I tried to find a seller that sold the whole tube and spring like in the video. I guess they are hard to find so I just ordered the springs. Lucky enough, the necessary information was on a sticker for the spring I needed. Mine is a model 9100 16x7 door, 148 lb TM Plus. I almost bought the one which is wrong
Hello. Sorry to hear that you were not able to find the spring tube. You should be able to simply remove the springs from inside. Let me know if you have any trouble.
Replaced the springs today, they arrived last night via UPS. Backing out the springs is actually much less scarier than what is being described. It's approximately 40 to 50lbs of pull at its worse. I had it in mind that it was going to snap my arm. The sleeves are not glued or greased so they easily came out with a little muster. Otherwise thank you. I found out at work that I'm not the only one to have a spring broken, but they paid 800 and I did not. But hey the joy of owning a house.
Great video! Loved the POV and editing was on point. It helps to know how doable this is especially in situations where a conversion is not an option. Are all torquemaster set ups the same or are there different models depending on door weight and size?
Excellent question Ruben! The 9100 model garage door comes in various configurations. The 9100 can come with or with glass (aka. windows). There are also wind rated versions of the 9100. And then there is the 9600 steelback insulated garage doors. Thus all of those different variations of doors will require a specific Torquemaster spring to accommodate the dimensions, configuration, and weight. Hope this helps! And thank you for the support!
Thanks for this helpful video. I heard a large bang one day and when I investigated, the garage door had trouble opening. I suspect it was the spring breaking.
Hello. Yes a loud bang could be an indication of a broken springs. For Torquemaster it's hard to tell.
@@sosgds It did end up being the spring. I was able to fix it last night. Thanks again for the info.
..... and to think I always knew POV as Personally Owned Vehicle!
I have heard that also. Other acceptable answers:
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Pyramid of Vision
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... and my personal favorite: Pachyderms On Ventura
Nice video. I just had my springs break. Tech converted it to exterior torsion spring and ditched the torquemaster system. He didn't have anything good to say about it. Both my springs were broken i believe since i couldn't tension either side. Had i found this video in time, i might have given it a shot to replace parts. I felt i got a fair price when they converted the door but still makes me wonder if i would've been able to fix it myself.
Hello! I am almost certain you would have been able to install the Torquemaster Plus. If I may ask, how long did you have the Torquemaster Plus for? And for the new springs, did he install a pair of torsion springs or a single spring?
@@sosgds i believe you're correct, i could have repaired it myself after seeing your video. That being said I'm happy to have it converted given that seeing the price of new springs from your link, i wasn't charged that much more to replace it all. He just installed today and i haven't been home to check it to confirm but I'm guessing he installed a single spring on a new bar. I'm assuming new cables too since they were pretty mangled when my spring gave out. My house is new and i park in the garage so it got used multiple times a day and the torquemaster lasted 14 years. My parent's door just had the same issue last year and theirs lasted at least 20 years.
Great video. My right side was the broken one but when I tightened my left side, it didn't tighten but the right side did. Any idea why?
Do you have any videos on how to do it on an 8-ft door instead of that bigger door that you're doing it on
Great video Santiago!
Great video. I will attempt it. I ordered springs and should have them soon. I'll let you know how it goes. Should save me $700!
Wonderful! I also have additional videos on how many turns you need to apply to the Torquemaster springs. Here's the link to it:
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Very helpful video!
Glad it was helpful! Stay safe party person!
Hi, do you always have to change the pipe? Or can you just change the springs inside?
Thanks for the video, have a question though. Trying to replace my springs and for that I need to know the door weight. But couldnt find it mentioned anywhere. All I see is Load Seq: 75 and Bal Wgt: 0. Dont see anything else on the sticker that relats to door weight. Can you please help?
Hello. I'd be happy to help. So I believe you have a Wayne Dalton garage door. Do you know if it's the 9100. The 9100 model garage door is the door that's shown in this video. Is it the same? Do you have a 2 car garage door or a single car door?
Is the cable suppose to be just rolled up before tension is added?
To wind the springs do you go clockwise or counter clockwise on the left and right side
Hello. If you have a standard torsion configuration and not a reverse torsion, then you will wind the springs counter clockwise. Stay safe party person!
My cable drum seems to be stuck on the tube and I can’t get it off to replace the springs. Any ideas?
Hello. Thank you for sharing your situation. I believe I know what you are dealing with.
How much tension is there still on that cable drum?
What can you tell me about the cable itself?
How frayed does the cable look?
There's a possibility that a part of the cable has become lodged in the drum. Here's a video to provide perspective:
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@@sosgds hello thanks the reply. No tension as I already took the winding bracket off and tube down to change the drum. The cable is kinked so that’s why I’m changing it since I’m already changing the springs. The issue is I can’t get the drum off
HELP!!, I wound a spring to tight and it broke inside the tube. I can not remove the spring now. I pulled it part way out of the tube and have vice grips on it. I still cannot pull it out!
I know your pain!
The broken portion of the spring inside the tube has wedged on the other side. That piece is made of plastic. So you might be able to use a long Pole with a mallet or Hammer to try and nudge it or hit it out. I've done that before and although it's not easy. If you use sufficient strength you should be able to get it out.
Wow great video!
I suppose one note is the diy'er should know the size of the door and the exact model number of the door and perhaps weight. In Houston a 16x7 9100 base door weighs 126 but if they windload it with extra struts it could weigh 100-130 lbs more
Hello Cody! That's a great point! Trust me, I had so many other highlights to bring out in this video. I didn't want to get too deep about the winding tool. I plan on making another video on how many turns are needed for proper balance. But you bring up fantastic points. I will try to make a follow up video on the TMP. Maybe a common mistakes video. Thanks again for feedback!
@@sosgds oh definitely I'm sorry I wasn't trying to criticize . You do a great job.
@@garagedoordoctorofhouston6518 No reason to apologize. I value my viewers insight. Even more a profesional colleagues insight like yourself. In fact it would be an honor to meet you and all the great people in this community someday Thanks again for the support!
Hello party man
When one side of the two cable breaks during operation with the door then stuck/jammed in the middle due to unbalanced forces, how do i get the door down to safely unwind the spring? While its in mid position there is alot of tension on the spring that is still in tacked but this of course pulls the door to one side and jamming it, p.s we are in total lockdown in my country and contractors limited to come
Thanks in advance
Hey Party Person! So sorry to hear that your door is jammed. Plus it's an honor to help out our international neighbors who are doing their best during this tough time. So the first thing you need to do is find out what type of garage door you have. Is it an insulated garage door? Does it have windows? Are all the rollers in the track assembly? The weight of the door is a major factor. If it is too heavy to lift then it's imperative you call a contractor.
The challenge will be in lifting the door to the complete open position. This might take an extra hand or friend to help you lift the door equally without getting your fingers caught. One the door is in the total up position you can rewind the cable onto the drum to then close safely.
If the cable is frayed, broken, or even worse your garage door spring is broken then it will best to unclip the good cable on the other side of the garage and lower the door safely with the help of a second person. Again, the door weight plays a major factor. If you are not able to lift the door easily then you could cause physical harm to yourself. I would hate for that to happen. Please let me know if this makes any sense.
torquemaster vs torsion spring which is better if you desire a side opener?
Hello Dami. Great question! I have to say Torsion. Torsion Springs will allow a side mount a.k.a. wall mount motors to work at optimal levels. Torquemaster springs will require an adapter for use on a wall mount motor. And they offer a number of challenges that include more moving parts. Hope this helps. Thank you for the feedback.
@@sosgds thank you!
Hello, I followed your video for my garage with the torque master plus and replaced 2 springs on a 7' garage door. I tightened both sides 16 turns according to the instructions. The issue I have is when the garage is about half way open, the left side begins to sag. The wire on the drum becomes loose and stops wrapping tightly. The right side wraps normally. Any ideas?
Hello. How's the balance to the garage door? Does it feel heavy?
Ok. I actually figured out the issue. One wire wasn't wrapping into the drum correctly which caused one side to life faster. Problem solved. Thanks for the instructions!
I have a 8x7 door and someone installed TT and new drums but only one side of the TT has the ratcheting mechanism. Is that normal?
Hello Maneeo. Yes for a single 8 by 7 garage door it will only need a ratchet plate on side side. It's perfectly normal.
I have this exact one how do the drums come off mine do not just slip on they feel stuck, tried using a rubber mallet and started breaking pieces eventually, how am I doing this wrong nothing I do will make either drum come off
Hello. Thank you for the great question. I believe you might have to loosen a cable to slide off the drum. I do have a couple more videos that highlight that.
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Please let me know if this helps.
For some reason the left side of the door is not picking up tension no matter how much I wind it.
I know I'm winding the left side clockwise but it is not applying tension to the string after 8-10 winds. What could be the issue?
I have new springs and new drums!
Hello! Are you using a winding tool or a deep socket with a ratchet wrench?
@@sosgds deep socket wrench
Andy Taylor
Andy Taylor
14 minutes ago
I have an earlier wayne dalton door. I believe it has an idrive though.
The reason I think its earlier model is because the end of the tube and spring tensioners are in one piece and it is very difficult to replace the cone. and THE SPRINGS HAVE A CIRCLIP AT BOTH ENDS. I believe there are two springs and its a single garage door. Would that mean if I put 14 turns on the spring, its possible to be come spring bound? As once the door lifts up the tube does not rotate and the door will not go to the ground even with the centre motor/idrive disconnected. in fact, my model of door is E3762-433. Any help appreciated.
Hello. Thank you so much for sharing your story. What you are experiencing is very peculiar. It's possible your cables are binding up. Or the cables are becoming caught on the door sections. It's also possible the door tracks are binding the door. Have you had a second pair of eyes to look at your garage door?
@SOS Garage Door Service I have sorted my problem.
It was the black belt on the door lock mechanism. I was tensioning the springs with the belt on the large white threaded part in the wrong place.
I had to ensure it was to the left before I put tension on the springs.
I did learn that the winding cones have a channel that enables you to remove the old cables and push new 2.5mm cable in without dismantling the whole system.. ;)
I use a sharpie and make a line on my socket then just count the turns
You kind of skipped over the part where the springs go in to the tube, how does that part work? Do they just lock in place?
Hello. In this tutorial I am using the Torquemaster Plus Tube with new springs inside. Thus I don't highlight the need to take out the springs. But DDM Garage Doors has a long but informative video on how to remove the springs from within the tube. Hope this helps.
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Total 64 - four 1/4 turns to make 16 full turns ?? I will appreciate your answer !!! Thanks
Hello. I'm not sure if I understand what you're asking. You want too reach 16 full turns. Not 64.
I tried this.However, when the garage door goes up the cable becomes loose and tangles not allowing the garage door to close, please help me : ( I have a single 8x7 garage door with single ratchet system
Hello. If the tension has become loose then it's possible the springs has not been tighten sufficiently. You also want to make sure you engage the lock to the ratchet end plate before operating the door. I have other videos about that process.
I also have the same problem, the cable comes loose in the last 10 inches from reaching the top? can't figure it out?
Ideally the j braked is mounted at the level of top rolles not at the top of the door section
Hello Josue! I completely agree with you with any of the standard non insulated garage doors. But in the case of the 9100 model door the top bracket is more efficient.
Well shit I’m about fixing to replace mine right now I’ll keep I posted
Got it done it went smooth
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the tube is fine. its just the springs, why replace the whole tube?
Great video Wayne Dalton torquemaster sucks though.
Appreciate the feedback. What is it about Torquemaster that you don't like?