There are people who say they live underground in Las Vegas! This world is shutting down. THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND! JESUS IS RETURNING SOON! HALLELUJAH! ❤️✝️❤️
It is a truly visceral experience to see the non-edited misery, filth and suffering that these people live in. This channel should be required viewing in schools. You are doing important work when producing these clips.
@@lemonyskunkketts7781 Assuming Jimmy who just finished shooting up doesn't see you and think he recognizes you as a demon from his nightmares before stabbing you lmao.
It's not that dangerous, just don't stare at people and avoid confrontation with people that look high, if you cross through skid row most of the time nothing happens to you, except being the witness of what happens when you use drugs and / or are very poor in the US.
I doubt the Olympics are purposely going to the warzone parts of LA aren’t they? Parts of LA has been like this for over 4 decades. This is near skid row. This is nothing new
Ahhh yes, I'm proud to say it's my hometown. What a world class city! Glad to see things are going so well. L.A. must have the greatest mayor, city council and board of supervisors; they're doing such a wonderful job. Oh, let's not forget the lovely aromas.
Hopefully, some rich Scandinavian country will start an "adopt an American" campaign. They could hire Sally Struthers to sell it. "For only five dollars a day, you can help these poor people get food, water, and medicine."
I grew up in Southern California we had family in Los Angeles that we would visit from time to time. It was always sketchy but never like this. Its turned into a zombie apocalypse, a sewer. Haven't been there in over a decade.
Born in LA. I can tell you after 55 years, you see this in every major city in the USA is not exclusively an LA problem. Been to 8 Countries across the World.
The alley from training its just a few blocks away on 7th and Alvarado. I grew up next to the building where the two homeless guys were their asses kicked.
They leave it like this to remind you what not to become and know life can turn like this if you don’t continue to work for the government and grind harder
Watching this in a nice part of England thinking to myself how bloody fortunate lucky I am to live with beautiful countryside near me and in a nice are (look up an area called Boxhill Surrey). Had a look at the house prices in LA and even with the conversion rate I'm stunned by how expensive LA is to buy even an average 3 bed house.
Bwhahaha BUY!? I wont be able to in my life over here in socal. I cant even rent a fucking place that has a full stove full fridge and laundry on the inside for less than 2500 usd a month. Were fucked
Weird because the last time I saw LA this bad, Reagan was president and we all know how he used crack cocaine to fund an illegal war. Same thing is happening now but this time the magas are pushing fentanyl the same way the Reagan’s pushed the war on drugs. Two washed up celebrities turned ex presidents.
When my dad had his car and took me to his work place, we would always have to pass by a street filled with tents, I would call it homeless town, because the ENTIRE SIDEWALK WAS COVERED BY TENTS THERE WAS NO AREA TO WALK AROUND WITHOUT DANGER
Thank you so much for making these videos. It's so necessary and for sure not enough people are seeing them yet! I hope this truthbomb channel blows up! 🤘🤘❤
I went to school in that area in the late 80’s , it had issues but it was livable, the park was sketchy but not too bad. Unfortunately the democrat politicians turned it upside down, they passed laws that effectively decriminalized crime and the use of drugs, then the city was taken over by drug addicts, criminals released early from prison and people from all over the world that had no permits to come in. To my fellow Angelinos , we have a chance to change this crisis by reforming proposition 47 and replacing the current District Attorney on the November elections . Please pay attention on how you vote.
At 2:38 in the video if I was a part of the ADA association, I'd be suing the city of Los Angeles, California for violations to the ADA policy. If you were confined to a wheelchair, you don't have FULL sidewalk access and would have to enter the street making it more dangerous than it should be. There is NO excuse for people's belongings to even be over the curb and in the street!
Charlie, since you're on the west coast if you come back up to Washington make sure you go check out Aroura ave. Seattle and Portland haven't gotten better since your last trip up😂 Spokane would also be a good spot! Love your content dude stay safe!
And then you remember this recent law: U.S. Supreme Court says cities can punish people for sleeping in public places. In its biggest decision on homelessness in decades, the U.S. Supreme Court today ruled that cities can ban people from sleeping and camping in public places. The tiny powers of the poor reduced yet again. What an unequal world we live in!
😮💨😒 I had a feeling that I would see a comment where someone would blame Democrats, as if Republicans would have made things better. I am sure things were the same when Jerry Brown was the governor.
@@emanuelespinoza9325 I am pretty sure that Governor Moonbeam (i.e. Jerry Brown, CA governor 1975-1983 and 2011-2019) was/is as much a Democrat as Maxine Waters and Alan Cranston.
"Now then, my son, hear me: blessed is the man who shall hearken to me, and the mortal who shall keep my ways; For my ways are the ways. of life, and in them is prepared favour from the Lord. But they that sin against me act wickedly against their own souls: and *_they that hate me love death"_* God (Proverbs 8:32, 35-36) " Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." Jesus (also God) (Matt 11:28-30)
I heard Any-Twosome Newsome just opened up a campaign office in Philly. He's done such a great job in CA, can you imagine him running the whole country?
They live in the secluded mountains on the outskirts of town surrounded by trees in high altitude. LA is a county not just a city. This is the equivalent of Kensington in any major city
This is a few square blocks in an industrial area of DTLA. Los Angeles is 500 square miles in size. Los Angeles County is 4700 square miles. This video is completely out of context
Great job Charlie! Honestly it looks like a third world country! I'll stay in the Midwest, Detroit looks better than LA! Thanks for exposing this to the world!
This is a few square blocks in an industrial area of DTLA. Los Angeles is 500 square miles in size. Los Angeles County is 4700 square miles. This video is completely out of context
DETROIT better ?? don't know never been there,, ONE thing sure that detroit got to be beautiful in fall---foliage color ??? heard of tons of cheap home abandon homes for sale in detroit only for one grand,,??? I don't buy,, really want to see the foliage in michigan and wisconsin,,,
Skid Row has been there for 100+ years in one form or another, including when California and LA were run by Republicans and conservatives. This is a few square blocks in an industrial area of DTLA. Los Angeles is 500 square miles in size. Los Angeles County is 4700 square miles. This video is completely out of context
@mrxman581 Richard Riordan was the inly Republican mayor im L.A from 1993 to 2001. Everyone else Democrats,so nice try blaming this on Conservatives!!!!
@@rashaundra4776 And Skid Row wasn't anywhere near this bad 1993-2001. It's gotten worse and worse since the 2000s. Mayor Karen Bass has been a disaster.
😢 oh no, I could not walk through there. It's heartbreaking 💔 to people live like that, they have to be street smart to live another day, if the drug don't take them out. Sad way to live. 😢
@@Fernandez218 They Live was released in 1988, it fits pretty well with 2024! The full movie is uploaded on YT by Still Human. Search for "They Live 1988. Full Movie" I highly recommend it! Starring former pro wrestler Roddy Piper ( a decent actor too! ) and Keith David who was also in The Thing with Kurt Russell and in a smaller role in Armageddon with Bruce Willis. Speaking of Kurt Russell if you haven't seen Big Trouble in Little China, by all means!
Skid Row and MacArthur Park has been this way since forever. The rest of LA does not look like that. Charlie Boi even has footage of other neighborhoods.
Been to the us once like 12 years ago, multiple big cities and also in the lesser touristic areas and it was already somewhat dirty but not as run down as this.
Holy crap. Since the 1990s, this is where they have been selling us the American dream from. But today, almost everything is a dream for Americans here where we live.
Worked in a warehouse near this alley. Zombie land.
Noticed the huge "BRAINS" tag on side of the building at 7:29
🧟🧟♂🧟♀'s
What street is this alley ?!
True, damn scary
They are satanists/demons. Graffiti in the beginning says smoke fetty worship satan.
How far is Union Station from here ?
That guy saying he's been in the alley for 4 years, I believe him.
Bruhhh!! I said being in that alley for 4 years is downright diabolical! Lol
I thought he said 40! lol
There are people who say they live underground in Las Vegas!
This world is shutting down.
THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!
JESUS IS RETURNING SOON!
HALLELUJAH! ❤️✝️❤️
St John 3:16! ❤❤❤
WTF
It is a truly visceral experience to see the non-edited misery, filth and suffering that these people live in. This channel should be required viewing in schools. You are doing important work when producing these clips.
🎯🎯🎯
I can’t believe you had the balls for doing this 😳
It's relatively safe if you treat anyone with less with respect.
@@lemonyskunkketts7781 Assuming Jimmy who just finished shooting up doesn't see you and think he recognizes you as a demon from his nightmares before stabbing you lmao.
It's not that dangerous, just don't stare at people and avoid confrontation with people that look high, if you cross through skid row most of the time nothing happens to you, except being the witness of what happens when you use drugs and / or are very poor in the US.
And they were worried about the covid virus.....check out the plague sht going on here...😱
Brass ones, no doubt.
This video should be sent to the International Olympic Committee to show them what they're getting into by bringing the Olympics to Los Angeles.
I doubt the Olympics are purposely going to the warzone parts of LA aren’t they? Parts of LA has been like this for over 4 decades. This is near skid row. This is nothing new
Then send it.
They will build a fence around these areas. Walls. Just like they did in China for the Olympics.
@@lemonyskunkketts7781 No, you
they already know, they just don't care at all
I feel like I need to take a shower after watching this.
😂
Jesus, I can smell that alley through the screen
Fr...then add the heat.
@@margaretthatcher6828it’s 88 degrees there and the highest I saw this week is 91 yall call that heat?😂
@@432Tx that is hot goofy
Yeah. That’s the smell of living in squalor. Very sad.
Defecation everywhere smell
Need to get the Chinese president to schedule a visit to LA. It will get cleaned up then.
Unfortunately you are probably right. On another note, Charlie is the man he not scared of nothing!
@user7up-ef5gq I think you misunderstood every aspect of this conversation. Charlie is the guy behind the camera
Can the city help by providing garbage cans or dumpster and pick up?
@@janetsummerville-daniel1739 the garbage cans would be turned into burn spots and toilets.
Nah I’d rather Xi not come over here to ban everything
Ahhh yes, I'm proud to say it's my hometown. What a world class city! Glad to see things are going so well. L.A. must have the greatest mayor, city council and board of supervisors; they're doing such a wonderful job. Oh, let's not forget the lovely aromas.
Hopefully, some rich Scandinavian country will start an "adopt an American" campaign. They could hire Sally Struthers to sell it. "For only five dollars a day, you can help these poor people get food, water, and medicine."
You realize America is wealthier than Scandinavian countries, right?
@@AnonymousPerson270it's not like any Americans are willing to help them though
@@A_Z_A_T_H_O_T_H The US is literally the most charitable country in the world by far.
These people live like this because of the generosity and welfare of Americans. No incentive to move to find jobs/cheaper housing@@A_Z_A_T_H_O_T_H
U.S. can buy entire Europe.
Bro said "rich Scandinavian countries."
I grew up in Southern California we had family in Los Angeles that we would visit from time to time. It was always sketchy but never like this. Its turned into a zombie apocalypse, a sewer. Haven't been there in over a decade.
Dude it's like .2 percent of the city
Born in LA. I can tell you after 55 years, you see this in every major city in the USA is not exclusively an LA problem. Been to 8 Countries across the World.
Looking from overseas something has gone very wrong in America over the last few years.
The name of this problem starts with a D
@@humdinger5701 huh?
@@Avarice21he means Donald Gump.
Skid Row has been around for 100 years.
@@DIMP11 "Democrat" ran city
This is what true freedom brings. Every country needs some form of standard which limits one’s ability to just be whatever they want to be.
Take a left at piss river, you can't miss it.
LOL
3rd world world be an upgrade. This shit is medieval.
Exactly peole who say is third world don't know shit and never been out
Medieval Europe was more civilized, this is early industrial London levels with the manure all over the street
Ahh... A third world in english ... right in the feels...
Facts
seriously.
Looks like the alley way from Training Day.
That's because it is. TRAINING DAY 2: CARTELS AND ANGELS (filming starts in 2025).
You got mad squabbles, boy!
Thats It!
That was much cleaner
The alley from training its just a few blocks away on 7th and Alvarado. I grew up next to the building where the two homeless guys were their asses kicked.
This remind me of the movie escape from New York
Escape from LA too!
I never realized the Los Angeles Zoo was free to enter. What a deal...
The zoo is MUCH cleaner.
They leave it like this to remind you what not to become and know life can turn like this if you don’t continue to work for the government and grind harder
@@TheOldTapeArchive really? Is this all summer !?
So much for getting a white woman this year..
Haha she was cheap is that what you are saying
Watching this in a nice part of England thinking to myself how bloody fortunate lucky I am to live with beautiful countryside near me and in a nice are (look up an area called Boxhill Surrey). Had a look at the house prices in LA and even with the conversion rate I'm stunned by how expensive LA is to buy even an average 3 bed house.
Bwhahaha BUY!? I wont be able to in my life over here in socal. I cant even rent a fucking place that has a full stove full fridge and laundry on the inside for less than 2500 usd a month. Were fucked
I wouldn't brag about it too much, they will feel the need to flood it with immigrants. You can't have any place too nice.
Los Angeles is expensive the stove refrigerator toilet sink and bathtub cost 30,000 a piece
America kicks ass for sure. Lol. This country is having the best time ever.
Quit playing lol
@@ArrKoKo We're definitely number one...for something.
Not only in America but all over the world 🌍😢
it's nice to see that they have running water flowing thru the alley
I dont think that's water 😳
Open sewers.
Crazy how this looks like a scene from the movie Elysium.
One BIG reason we don't want Gavin Newsom as a US president!
I'm certain that this was happening before Gavin Newsom took office.
Weird because the last time I saw LA this bad, Reagan was president and we all know how he used crack cocaine to fund an illegal war.
Same thing is happening now but this time the magas are pushing fentanyl the same way the Reagan’s pushed the war on drugs.
Two washed up celebrities turned ex presidents.
So many tents on the sidewalk wow we don’t have that problem over here in Australia
We have plenty of homeless people here in Australia 🇦🇺 thanks to many useless governments and pathetic laws and regulations!
To be fair we do have a growing homelessness problem
There's tents in certain parts of Brisbane
When my dad had his car and took me to his work place, we would always have to pass by a street filled with tents, I would call it homeless town, because the ENTIRE SIDEWALK WAS COVERED BY TENTS THERE WAS NO AREA TO WALK AROUND WITHOUT DANGER
Must be some really big rats running around there.
Fat ones too 😆
probably everyone is already used to dirt, homeless people and drug addicts, or they pretend that they don 't care about anything
LA make philly look like disney 😂
Kensington still looks worse but both are shitholes🤣
To be honest both Skid Row and Kensington cancel each other out. Both sad and depressing.
@@rel1800 kensington is a way longer street. Skid row aint that big
Hell na they’re both tragic and both just as run down imo
Kensington is worse
Thank you so much for making these videos. It's so necessary and for sure not enough people are seeing them yet! I hope this truthbomb channel blows up! 🤘🤘❤
As a Los Angeles native, this is embarrassing
It’s been this way forever, have you voted for progressive policies in your area? Yet you say you’re embarrassed
1:34 got me rolling 😂 "jesus christ! I love you bro! Ueehrrarg"
I went to school in that area in the late 80’s , it had issues but it was livable, the park was sketchy but not too bad. Unfortunately the democrat politicians turned it upside down, they passed laws that effectively decriminalized crime and the use of drugs, then the city was taken over by drug addicts, criminals released early from prison and people from all over the world that had no permits to come in.
To my fellow Angelinos , we have a chance to change this crisis by reforming proposition 47 and replacing the current District Attorney on the November elections . Please pay attention on how you vote.
See that's where ur wrong......natives need to be the immigration policy panel...no one comes or stays here unless it's approved
There are so many illegals living in l.an and voting for this. Nothing will change under democrat ruling California
Thank you for your videos. Please stay safe physically and health wise. It looks like there is a lot of disease with the trash and filth.
At 2:38 in the video if I was a part of the ADA association, I'd be suing the city of Los Angeles, California for violations to the ADA policy. If you were confined to a wheelchair, you don't have FULL sidewalk access and would have to enter the street making it more dangerous than it should be. There is NO excuse for people's belongings to even be over the curb and in the street!
Honestly this is just UNACCEPTABLE smh I pray these people get sober and the help they need. 😢
This is a great advertisement for the 2028 LA Olympics.
Come to the San Fernando Valley Charlie there’s a whole lot to see here
Привет 🙋🏼♂️ 🍩 ☕️ Спасибо за интересную прогулку по городу 🚶🏼🔝✅️ 📹 👍🏻 😊
Omg, scary walk through the slum ghettos of LA, scary by day, no-go zones by night !
Charlie, since you're on the west coast if you come back up to Washington make sure you go check out Aroura ave. Seattle and Portland haven't gotten better since your last trip up😂 Spokane would also be a good spot! Love your content dude stay safe!
"SKID ROW,, coming soon to a neighborhood near you...☹️☹️☹️"...
Going from Chicago where we take so much pride in our downtown (loop) to this was dystopian.
I always thought it was a law that you couldn't set up tents on public sidewalks ?!!???!?!! 😮
1:27 did the cholo dude start pop locking after yellin " jesus christ!"
This is Gavin Newson's California, peeps.
Your a long way from home Charlie lucky for you the camera man never dies
And then you remember this recent law: U.S. Supreme Court says cities can punish people for sleeping in public places. In its biggest decision on homelessness in decades, the U.S. Supreme Court today ruled that cities can ban people from sleeping and camping in public places.
The tiny powers of the poor reduced yet again. What an unequal world we live in!
Truly disgusting
Punished? THey are already punished. And what are they gonna do? Put them in prison? That would be shelter & food.
They don't have the space for that.
1:26 Big smoke after he sees CJ "awww my dawg"
That alley is so surreal wow!!!
Reality is always harder than any movie!
How depressing. Thanks for traveling these streets so we don't have to! Stay safe!
“JESUS CHRIST!” LOL
Jesus CHRIST Jesus CHRIST lol mike servin funny
Mike Posner playing at around 1 minute mark. Many memories tied to this song.
room - $1k/month
tent - $60 lifetime
Do a Skid Row Interview!❤
The governor should be immediately stripped of office. This is so sad and unacceptable. It’s almost unbelievable this is America.
It makes many places in PA look homey and disenfectant clean.
I can't believe more of them weren't staring at your tuxedo, top hat and cane.
Ha Nice 1 🇦🇺
Newsom and Democrats must be held accountable to the wasting of America #1776🇺🇸
😮💨😒 I had a feeling that I would see a comment where someone would blame Democrats, as if Republicans would have made things better. I am sure things were the same when Jerry Brown was the governor.
@@emanuelespinoza9325 I am pretty sure that Governor Moonbeam (i.e. Jerry Brown, CA governor 1975-1983 and 2011-2019) was/is as much a Democrat as Maxine Waters and Alan Cranston.
@@chrisrulla6386 Okay, so I had to be sure about this, but I don't think if it was run by a Republican that things would have been any better.
@@emanuelespinoza9325 if you support Gavin Newsom, you don't have an IQ worthy of a debate. Go back to watching MSNBC.
@@emanuelespinoza9325 if you support Gavin Newsom, you don't have an IQ worthy of a debate. Go back to watching MSNBC.
"Now then, my son, hear me: blessed is the man who shall hearken to me, and the mortal who shall keep my ways; For my ways are the ways. of life, and in them is prepared favour from the Lord. But they that sin against me act wickedly against their own souls: and *_they that hate me love death"_* God (Proverbs 8:32, 35-36)
" Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." Jesus (also God) (Matt 11:28-30)
I heard Any-Twosome Newsome just opened up a campaign office in Philly. He's done such a great job in CA, can you imagine him running the whole country?
That looks cozy with all those small campsites.
Why do so many celebs live here? It looks like a hell hole.
They live in the secluded mountains on the outskirts of town surrounded by trees in high altitude. LA is a county not just a city. This is the equivalent of Kensington in any major city
@@avonfettydale9166 Crime dont climb, it stays at the bottom. The Hollywood Hills are posh for a reason.
They def do not live there
@@whyhellotherestrangerfunny because in Brazil, it is the opposite
This is a few square blocks in an industrial area of DTLA. Los Angeles is 500 square miles in size. Los Angeles County is 4700 square miles. This video is completely out of context
Great job Charlie! Honestly it looks like a third world country! I'll stay in the Midwest, Detroit looks better than LA! Thanks for exposing this to the world!
This is a few square blocks in an industrial area of DTLA. Los Angeles is 500 square miles in size. Los Angeles County is 4700 square miles. This video is completely out of context
DETROIT better ?? don't know never been there,, ONE thing sure that detroit got to be beautiful in fall---foliage color ??? heard of tons of cheap home abandon homes for sale in detroit only for one grand,,??? I don't buy,,
really want to see the foliage in michigan and wisconsin,,,
Los Angeles mayor needs to be jailed for allowing this to happen
Skid Row has been there for 100+ years in one form or another, including when California and LA were run by Republicans and conservatives.
This is a few square blocks in an industrial area of DTLA. Los Angeles is 500 square miles in size. Los Angeles County is 4700 square miles. This video is completely out of context
Gavin Greasy Newsom?
@mrxman581 Richard Riordan was the inly Republican mayor im L.A from 1993 to 2001.
Everyone else Democrats,so nice try blaming this on Conservatives!!!!
@@rashaundra4776 And Skid Row wasn't anywhere near this bad 1993-2001.
It's gotten worse and worse since the 2000s. Mayor Karen Bass has been a disaster.
@georgehenderson7783 Exactly that area was contained back then.
The drug problem is 1 million times worse and more lethal.
SKID ROW AND SURROUNDING AREAS BEEN THIS WAY SINCE 1980s
"I've been in this alley for four years, dawg."
Casually tagged with “smoke Fetty” 😂
Nope. No way. I'd be terrified out of my mind.
Genial! Me encanta esto❤
I remember walking through Skid Row in 2016, and thinking it couldn't possibly get any worse. I was so wrong.
Garbage, feces, needles, urine. Yikes. Call the mayor. The drug dealer just drove by. No dead bodies this time.
And this is what Newsome has in store for the entire USA
I'm convinced you Work for GTA games as the background noise audio. Kudos to you
Smoke Fetty graffiti. At least they're telling the truth about safe way to fettyup.
😢 oh no, I could not walk through there. It's heartbreaking 💔 to people live like that, they have to be street smart to live another day, if the drug don't take them out. Sad way to live. 😢
💯
reminds me of that movie "Idiocracy"
And They Live.
@@georgehenderson7783 never heard of this movie before. now it's my mission to watch it. we might be showing our age mentioning these movies.
@@Fernandez218 They Live was released in 1988, it fits pretty well with 2024! The full movie is uploaded on YT by Still Human. Search for "They Live 1988. Full Movie" I highly recommend it! Starring former pro wrestler Roddy Piper ( a decent actor too! ) and Keith David who was also in The Thing with Kurt Russell and in a smaller role in Armageddon with Bruce Willis. Speaking of Kurt Russell if you haven't seen Big Trouble in Little China, by all means!
👍
From
Calgary
You're like German in Venice without the German accent.
Skid Row and MacArthur Park has been this way since forever. The rest of LA does not look like that. Charlie Boi even has footage of other neighborhoods.
I wonder if ANY politician on a municipal, state or federal level is even attempting to do anything about homelessness.
I wonder if Deagle prediction will come true? I do believe these are the useless eaters we hear about
After the economy collapses yes
500 million
That's what the Global Cabal is hoping for
You need a 360 cam brother
Imagine being a bus driver traveling thru them No-Go zones… I know they done seen it all
Luke 8:17
For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
Most of those people at the beginning of the video are out there just shopping their T.V. piolet ideas.
Aqui no Brasil é do mesmo jeito
What an unequal country!!! They are always the unhappy ones too.
Гувервилль, ужасающее классовое неравенство.
Но где уборщики улиц??
Better hurry... the Reaper is just around the bend
Charlie Bo your back!
Beautiful capture of Austin!
Welcome to the third world. I am glad that I live in Europe.
Been to the us once like 12 years ago, multiple big cities and also in the lesser touristic areas and it was already somewhat dirty but not as run down as this.
You gotta be kidding me! It looks like a movie set. I know some director is using some of this footage for his/he next zombie movie.
CharlieBo got a PAIR walking through this.
Holy crap. Since the 1990s, this is where they have been selling us the American dream from. But today, almost everything is a dream for Americans here where we live.
Things have changed a bit since I was there in ‘84
Karl marx saying.... TOLD YOU SO !