Mateba MTR6 Exploratory: Anvil 0129
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Mateba's are a rare bird. The MTR6 is among the rarest. We compare the engineering against a S&W revolver, and find most of the parts are common to both. NOT a tutorial...we show what you need to learn, not how to do . Cannot perform at this level? Do NOT attempt.
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As always Mark, it’s a pleasure to watch you work. Your sense of humour is the icing on the cake.
As an amateur wannabe gunsmith your videos have been a wealth of information Thanks Mr Novak.
Hey Mark, thanks for this. A couple of months ago I became obsessed with how the Mateba and Chiappa systems function. I can be a little obsessive and this video will keep me from developing an ulcer because there are very few good references on the mechanism. Now I can just come back here instead of pulling my hair out and chain smoking. Big ups big man
I heard in other comments they're designed by the same person
I wonder what would have happened to business if ole Jerry Miculek had been sponsored by Matebo instead.
Absolutely fantastic piece you've got there! i wasn't familiar with this model but i love it!
We need more complete restorations
Mark: "It's not that complex...not that much stuff here..."
Just remember; that statement came from an ex-nuclear submarine technician. 😆
True.......
I have to agree, my boss is one of those fellas. Has is a damn smart individual.
Ian at Forgotten Weapons recently did a video about these handguns. It's like Jesus and the Pope in the same place at the same time.
Mark has done a lot of work for Ian. This may not be a coincidence.
Want to see the fabrication making the other one work. The fabrication you do is awesome 👌
What a magnificent design - it just looks "different" and we all know how easily that can crush even the best design!
Ian McCollum recently did a review of the semi-auto version of this gun (in .44 mag). He noted that the grip attachment is a weak point and is hard on solid wood grips. The gun he was showing had metal replacement grips.
We also tore down and rebuilt a 6 unica about 3 years ago. A full episode is up, plus
This was very interesting. I've never seen one IRL, and probably never will. Even so I've always loved the concept of the Mateba.
Now I understand that more than 90% of what I've read and heard about these has been said or written by people with exactly as much hands on experience with them as I have, that is none what so ever.
That's why it's interesting to hear you say things like at 5:05
"So all the pieces to a Smith & Wesson or a Colt or any other revolver are here, they are just aligned differently and this was definitely built, I'm going to call it the Glock of revolvers. It was definitely designed as a machine tool, and it's pretty well done."
Most of what I've read and heard has been people saying the, yes it's a cool and interesting design. But the mechanics is so complicated and weird that it's extremely unreliable and the double action pull is atrocious.
Well the mechanics seems well designed. Sure it's more complex than a S&W, but I can't claim I see a lot of things that would be prone to breakage. And as far as the double action pull... 7:35
"and this has got to be one of the smoothest revolvers I have ever fired in my life"
Well that's that for the "atrocious" double action pull.
This video only reinforce my feeling that the designer really was on to something with this design. It's not perfect, nothing really is, but there are a lot of things right with it.
One of the problems is the cylinder gap down low just above your hand. If it had the cylinder sealing against the force cone like the Nagant M1895 that wouldn't be a problem, but it would complicate the design even more. But hey, I can dream right?
What an amazing piece of engineering! The adjustability of the trigger stages impresses me. It may be complex but I’d love one. Unlikely to be reproduced though, I dare say 😂
It's really neat.
Very interesting Mark. I have never seen the inner workings of one of those. Thank You for sharing Your time and efforts. Best Wishes.
Wow, so little muzzle flip on a 357 is impressive!! I saw one of these once, but I think it was a 44 Mag, and the price tag dictated that I not ask for the seller to take it out from under the glass. Thanks for sharing the inner workings, just like a Smith, but not!!
That's an incredible revolver. Thank you for sharing it with us. The very first thing I noticed when you fired it was no muzzle flip. Great review!!
I would love to be your apprentice. I wish I could see you work in real life. From wood to metal finishes to all the internals, you are a expert. I bet you have literally forgot more than most "gunsmiths" will ever know. Your an engineer artist. John Browning would be impressed with your knowledge and ability with firearms.
Fantastic sir I have never seen one of these before thank you for sharing this enjoyable video six stars sir
I almost want to ask, “Is that a watch or a revolver?” While I will probably never own a Mateba, I do own a Smith and your instruction is very enlightening. I like to watch people who know what they are doing.
Ghost In The Shell introduced me to the Mateba guns. Togusa carried one and I spent years trying to identify the gun.
I think the first time I heard about the Mateba was watching Ghost In The Shell. It was the main gun of Togusa, only member of section 9 without any cybernetic body enhancement.
I think that's where a lot of people had first seen it. A lot of the guns in GitS are real or at least plausible, kind of like how Cowboy Bebop used real guns.
@@MalleusSemperVictor I didn't like when they kinda modernized it in the live action movie using a chiappa rhino instead. The point of him using a mateba is that it was an old gun.
History and how it works has to be the main reasons I am intrigued and amazed at how engineers designed things. The clockwork and engineering involved in these pistols are beyond their time. Very intelligent people back in the day designed and built pistols that new model pistols incorporate that old tech
The gun firing at 19:15 along with the hair fire at the same time was exhilarating!
gotta love that low axis barrel
For context, this is part of the MTR series, these models are single/double action revolvers and not the Auto Revolvers that Mateba are better known for. If you want info on the Auto revolver Ian over on Forgotten Weapons has his own video where he takes one down and shows you how it operates. That model of course having a custom grip with the original solid wood one being assumed to be long gone due to the poor quality of the grips.
Mark did the Unica first, and has a more thorough teardown
Wow! Thank your for sharing this online. I've noticed the complete lack of internal pics shared online other than the patent
Part of the reason for this video is to document this model and fill in some holes
It's a great shame the "recent" rumors about MaTeBa resurrecting turned out to be either just rumors or an all-out scam, still not entirely sure which.
I've been trying to find out if their patents are expired yet because it blows my mind that no one has made clones of this or the Unica 6
@@TheSmokingMustache Mostly because it'd be expensive as hell with a pretty small customer base, I imagine.
@@Tunkkis Couple months ago several Unica 6 went up on Gunbroker, the lowest one went for $8k buy it now and they were all gone in less than a week, I have the feeling that even if they were expensive they would make money, especially if someone like S&W or Ruger made the clone since they have the reputation for good revolvers
Edit: by several I mean between 6 and 9 individual revolvers lol, I think the highest one went for like $13k
Amazing video as always, that straight back recoil is pretty cool to be able to slow down and watch. Nice straightforward breakdown, no doubt this will help someone else down the road if they come across one.
Cheers from WA state.
As always, sir, it is a pleasure to watch your work
i love thes videos cuz i know you and ian are the only way i can will get a chans to see stuff like this evan if ill never use this info my self i still love to learn about it
I recognize those parts. Glad you're getting these back together!
1st time seeing this one. Thanks for the breakdown.
Glad it was helpful!
My Argentinian eyes and my Italian blood really want to see the build of the gun in the bag! Subscription on! Bell on!
My thoughts exactly - let's just HOPE!!
Don't forget to thumbs-up and subscribe. This is the best firearms content on the tube
This video should have a fee million likes
Absolutely fascinating as always❤️
Ian does a Mateba. Mark does a Mateba. Everyone does it.
Thank you for your time and effort in making this video. Priceless information. Best Regards.
I love my Chiappa Rhinos, i have a 20D and a 50DS. Shooting side by side with a 3" k frame, the rhinos are so much more pleasant to fire. I dont understand why more revolvers dont fire from the bottom cylinder.
Because we are generationally predisposed to the barrel being on top, like god intended!😂 Seriously If Colt had arranged his BP revolvers in this configuration, all our revolvers today would work that way.
Great video, think a lot of worth in this kind of breakdown of an 80/90’s S&W K Frame.
I had to research the company and found out it went out of business in the early 2000s then, was bought out in 2014 and now is totally out of business due to fraud and violation of Italian firearms laws. Besides this revolver here, the original company also made an automatic revolver.
First an unica video from ian now a mtr6 video from mark. What a week.
You, @marknovak8255, are a saint, Sir. My mate now thinks I'm a gunsmithing wizard after I correctly assembled his '74 Sharps trigger group (long story) and made him a new heat-blued screw for the front sight. Many thanks for all your useful adu... ecuda... edac... training.
Absolutely beautiful on the outside but a that's crazy on the inside. Maybe if Ghilsoni had simplified the lockwork...
Im now curious what the inside of a Chiappa Rhino looks like.
I have a hard time letting go of BIG money for something that’s not in production because firing it is a risk, that you won’t be able to fix it if something breaks. One of my S&W’s break and I can get them fixed. Parts are still made.
Brilliant,as usual.
Now we know where the idea of the Chiappa Rhino came from.
Funny you should say that, as I watched and realized what you said it occured to me that my Nebula is the only gun I have ever owned that I have not had appart. Maybe am afraid to mark that gorgeous finish !
I would love to see a comparison of the 2.
Thanks for showing how this clever action works. Wow.
I was waiting to the end to see what was missing from the bag lol
Thanks for the break down on how the parts interact! Very cool design, shame it didn't catch on.
So a Rhino that works? If I had deep enough pockets, I would want one for the giggle factor alone.
2:20 the grip reminds me of the Dan Wesson Model 15 I grew up shooting.
Great Saturday morning video Thankyou Mark.
Fantastic piece of work too expensive for my Shanty Irish blood too but would love to shoot one. As usual yourvwork is fascinating as hell Mark love your work!
Oh no! The Bag of Gun.
Interesting journey. Seemed shorter than the clock indicated.
Hi Mark, I recently purchased a 2006m and unfortunately it seems to be missing a piece of the ejector assembly. Were you able to take detailed photos of the assembly and what would be the best way to reach you?
One of the only channels I will like/ thumbs up i dont know Mark has that charm oof one of the most interesting men in the world ;)
Great job
Very cool thanks Mark
Chief this is a great video. Thank you Andres
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That's the first time I've seen it or even heard of it. I know the Bore Line will effect Muzzle Flip, and that big bohunkus piece of metal on top the Barrel no wonder no Muzzle Flip. Great video.
I'm sure I have a question you've been asked a great many time before, but I've never seen the answer. Where did you come across that wonderful small ball peen hammer? I have some screws that have been mangled that I'd like to repair properly! Thanks for even entertaining this odd request!
I have had a quick look and eBay have some good ones in 1,2, and 4oz sizes. Also, jeweller’s suppliers might have something too.
This one was a gift 25 years ago, but ebay, etsy......
@@harmlesscreationsofthegree1248 Thanks!
Hell yeah! So little info on this little piece, great to finally see some fresh content on these guys.
Intriguing and informative as always.
Keep well and safe.
Cool video, cool gun, cool guy, cool 😎
Had a 6-in rhino at one point but there were some weird issues I didn't want to screw with it and no gunsmith would touch it it was like a Lamborghini or something trying to find a mechanic but it felt like a .22
The internals look like they asked a German do figure out the mechanics and then gave the result to the Italian so he can make every single part elegant and pretty.
It can’t be German - it doesn’t have any electronics…
@@allangibson8494 Interesting. I never heard German engineering being associated with excessive/unnessesary electronics.
Too funny.
I was really hoping for those 2006Ms to come in. Maybe one day.
We have one of those also...
@marknovak8255 that's a rare bird. A company was supposed to import new ones, but, sadly, that never materialized.
Oh, no...a bag job! 😄
That thing has as many moving parts as a swiss watch.
Thanks Mark!
What caliber was that? Did i miss it? Was that 38 special or .357 magnum? That was mildly impressive for 38 special in a revolver that size but extremely impressive if you were shooting full power .357s
357
Surprised DaVinci didn't invent something like this , looks like his work
Would love to see this compared to a Chiappa rhino
A new anvil! Another Mateba! YAY
So was Ian wrong?? 😇 Ourstanding and also a very useful video. I need to find one of these. :)
He has his opinions, I have mine. Just a difference in viewpoint.
I love matebas. I love weird stuff
.... on today's episode of this old gat ...
Far Cry from the simplicity of the Pez Dispenser. 11b4p '74.
I would really like to see a no BS video on how to clean a rifle barrel that may or may not have copper fouling
Did I just realize how you started your program ? In the advent of easy video you took pictures and or video'd the disassembly processes and said hey I'm halfway there anyway why not start a program , your the best !
Impressive! I didn't catch the caliber of this revolver???
357
Thanks for chatting with us at IV8888 Range Day!
My pleasure. Enjoyed the chat. Thanks
$12,000 revolver! Nice! But, where is the rail? I want a laser and a light...
It does look like a fun range toy for sure
Would love to see one of these for a Stevens 77 if you get the chance.
Italian space magic.
Yeah I'd love one too but 10 or 12K is a bit much.
Mr. Novak, if you conversion boiled a barrelled action with a german silver front sight blade - would the silver blade blacken or otherwise change color?
Thanks for the video
wow very clever gun, now I want one, just for research of course .... lol
I've build mg42s, brens, Aks and ars but revolvers always make me feel stupid.
we have a funny way of progressing backwards, the best example is the CRT TV which bends light but the LED or LCD TVs are just tiny light emitters. The more complex stuff comes first and then the technically simpler stuff just slides in easier
Me too
A comparison with a chiappa rhino video please
Hello, dear master, I want to buy a second-hand, used classic double shotgun. There are many rifle brands. I can't decide which brand of rifle to buy. Can you tell me the brand of the double trigger, solid, good shot, light quality classic shotgun? Which brand of double rifle do you recommend to buy? As an experienced gunsmith, what is your suggestion for me? Thank you.
Mark, go find someone who owns a Chiappa Rhino and see if it compares to the feel of that low bore. I always thought they were just a gimmick but they truly are a pleasure to shoot.
Any chance you took some photos of the pivot locations and parts with a size reference in frame...? Have been trying for years to get my hands on one to do just that but your mechanical walkthrough of the action was amazing! Lots of great advice in your videos.
Love it
What concerns me is the location of the cylinder gap. Seems awful close to the firing hand, and I would be worried about burns or gas cutting to the hand.
The old UA-cam Channel LifeSizePotato covered these. The guy owns several www.youtube.com/@LifeSizePotato
The channel is still up but he hasn't uploaded a new video in around 7 years.
Is the mtr-6 the sake as the 2006m? I presume so...
probably the same gun.
Edit: welp...
Two, totally different designs. Nothing in common, except for being revolvers
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