My answer is yes. All the different threads come together perfectly: 1) The Faustian West is creatively and spiritually exhausted. All it has left is technology, which Elon represents. He's involved in transhumanism through Neuralink and Mars colonization through SpaceX. 2) Spengler's Winter phase corresponds to Guenon and Evola's Kali Yuga or Iron Age. Guenon predicted that there will be a "Great Parody" in the end times. A counter-tradition or inverted spirituality. Transhumanism fits this role, but we should also note that JD Vance has cited Curtis Yarvin as an influence on him. Yarvin is a blogger that has made secular arguments in favor of monarchy. 3) Right now there is a conflict going on in the Middle East. Trump was chosen by a certain group of people to solve this conflict. Once there is peace in the Middle East, the Third Temple will be rebuilt. Look up the IMEC Corridor (India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor). Israel will benefit immensely. 4) Are you starting to see the pieces coming together? The world is embracing right-wing populism and faith in democracy is at an all time low. People have become more willing to give unrestricted power to politicians in hopes that they will solve the issues of the age.
Always a fan favorite democrat, genghis, liu bei, erik the red, grant or jackson, wouldn't have spared brutus and refused bodyguards; or for such a renowned general cry after pompey's got killed with all of his soldiers that he killed, being a wierd one though, lol? Or cromwell as one of the most successful generals besides his body getting dug up, with a strong work ethic and new model army, or oda nobunaga, or pharoah khufu or khafre the builders that paid in beer unlike cromwell fighting the king?
The evidence shows that Trump was a pretty great leader when weighted towards domestic economics. Real wages rose 8.2% over 4 years and inflation was negligible. Biden's presidency saw a 1% increase in real wages over 4 years with crippling inflation and massive corporate monopolistic interference in the housing market and subsequent housing prices.
@@aleveryonesdaddyhorford8109yeah but it doesn’t change the fact that he is a moderate. I agree with you Trump was great, but he’s a typical centrist with right leaning views. 80s democrat
Correct. His policy positions are basically those of a 90s Democrat. These people claiming he's an "extremist" have lost all ability to think for themselves. He is, however, the best president of the 21st century, and it's not even close. If he delivers his promises to reform and remove a lot of the federal government, he's a Mt. Rushmore level leader.
He was 1 inch away from being Tiberius Gracchus. That's why history doesn't necessarily repeat, it merely rhymes, because serendipity and plain luck happens.
This, he was more of a Gracchi brother. We're still in "rich get richer while forgetting us" stage and not quite at the mob riots and civil wars deciding elections
Also literary! The Gallic and Civil Wars are a model of elegant Latin, and he also wrote political speeches, as well as poetry (Laus Herculis) and a work on the rules of grammar. Imagine that from Trump!
@@StiloVerso-kn7wn Also fashionable as a young man, handsome and much copied (especially his trend of loose cuffs and standing collars). Musicians sought him out.
Pretty much. Actually, I'd argue that the first portent of things to come (in the vein of Trump) was Ronald Reagan. He was a certified actor who became president...filthy rich, appealing to the masses, but not really in charge of anything. Trump is another actor who became president...and his presidency and popularity are all about his wealth and showmanship. He's a much worse version of Reagan. Where Reagan acted modest and appeared to have a vision beyond himself, Trump is merely an empty suit egoist, blatantly and solely dedicated to his own celebrity.
this is ridiculous, Graccus made economic policies to benefit the working class like land reforms... Trump is litearlly doing the opposite, enriching the elites and applying tariffs that the middle and lower classes will have to pay.
I agree. He's quite a terrifying omen of things to come. If someone manage to become an inheritor of Trump and also actually have intellectual capacities, they might turn "the land of the free" into a totalitarian hellscape.
Two interesting notes on this matter,1. Julius Cesar had good reason to bring his soldiers with him, as the last time someone found themselves in the same position they ended up dead, 2. Julius Cesar didn't actually disband the Senate, a successor used the assassination of him to justify doing so
To be fair, we do need to find a new form of government and even system building. A revaluation of all values, like Nietzche said. One ought not to be weak like Nietzche and actually set a new system. Why denied nature of its will to power through us, right? Of course a system for the species, not country men.
no, he is not the equivalent of caesar. but he is an extraordinary man, meaning he can bend and shape reality around him. i think each is in a cathegory of his own
@@AllMagasGoToGitmo no. he is differently extraordinary, like napoleon is from hitler, from caesar or from alexander note that the extraordinary is not in itself good. it can, in fact, be very bad.
@@celmaidinpadurebaiat he’s extraordinarily mobbed up, yes - he will defang the federal government and sell America off for parts, create his own oligarchs and rule in the model of his teacher, Czar Putin, for whom he was “the apprentice” “Just leave the liquuuuuid gold to meeee”
@@Thought_Processing_ Sulla was an Optimate to turned dictator to undo populist reforms and eliminate his perceived threats to the Republic, then made reforms to turn the state apparatus stronger and prevent other great men from doing the same (unsuccessfully). Sulla would be the equivalent of some Deep State figure sizing power by authoritarian means to uphold the already existing regime, who would persecute populists like Trump and dissenters. Sulla is literally the "restricting democracy to save our democracy" meme.
@Thought_Processing_ The best response to this ironically comes from leftist Cenk Uygur. "The Democrats don't really think Trump will be a dictator because when we tried to get someone, anyone to run against Trump, they all declined. 2028, they said. Meanwhile, if they actually believed their rhetoric their wouldn't BE an election in 2028." You've fallen prey to oligarch propaganda released by a media that's been co-opted by the intelligence services. Be a little more discerning in the future, and maybe you, too, can become immune to fake news.
@@Thought_Processing_ agreed. Closer to sulla than caesar. The republicans are optimates. People forgot how fanatical optimates are just because caesar is a populist dictator.
I don’t know, but every future president of USA will try to be new Trump . Ideology is not problem, even socialist trump or Christian fundamentalist trump will be possible in USA.
People in the comments saying he is like Gracchi brothers (hell no!).... the Kennedy Brothers were like the Gracchi, and like them, both were really assassinated by factions of their own government.... also, the Ur-Symbol of the West is infinite space, not static bound form like Apollonian man who thus saw the powerful and divine as in human-form, so our "Ceasar" may or will not even come in human form -- but as something techno-modified.
Both can be. Trump is if the gracchi brothers didn't have things ended so soon. As well as Julian the apostate. To say otherwise means you have TDS like the person who made this video.
If he does. He only has four short years in office. Not even his strongest supporters think he can do it all in that time. Re-establishing the American republic is a generational project.
Biden and harris messed up so bad he might need longer than 4 years. But what we have seen in one week of him getting elecred is definitely a good sign, and if we take house, he'll be able to fix it a lot faster.
Dear Johannes, thank you for your contribution! I'd like to share my thoughts. Inspired by readings like Varoufakis's Technofeudalism, I delved into some numbers. It's clear that real estate is a far more critical asset than big tech. According to a recent McKinsey study, 66% of global net worth is tied to real estate-a sector heavily influenced by demographics. As you know, the West faces very low birth rates. This, combined with welfare systems (especially in Germany), is a key driver for migration, as it sustains demand for real estate. Imagine the decline if there were no migration. Emanuel Todd suggests in Lineages of Modernity that Germany might have a vested interest in prolonging the Ukraine conflict to benefit from Ukrainian migration. In the current decline, asset owners are motivated to preserve their wealth despite demographic and economic challenges. The goal appears to be to maintain stability, often at the expense of the lower classes. I believe the political influence of the real estate asset class is still underestimated (in the media or critical "bubble"). Just my two cents.
@@adalbertthomalla4887 If I may add some cents...It is one of the biggest schemes&scame, combined with construction industry especially in Europe. Where I'm from ..we have the biggest amonut of sattelite mals per citizen with a lot of potential farmland covered in concrete, combined with cheap workfoce from south of Balkan peninsula, they are the core of construction buisines...
I think Trump is more akin to the Gracchi brothers. Wealthy plebeians who rose through the ranks and wanted to break down the Patrician oligarchy in Rome by appealing to populism
No.He is an important character in the ending American empire. Like those kings or emperors who appear just before empires go down.The calm before the storm.
@candide1065 I am not an American nor do I care about your political parties. I am neutral about Trump.The fact is your empire is going down regardless of Trump.
Sulla is more analogous imho. The one who shows where the cracks are and forces drastic measures. Caesar is someone watching this unfold right now and getting creative ideas about what they could do from that position of power.
My anime plot prediction is that Vance assA$$inates him on Jan 6 2029 instead of certifying whoever. He becomes president and pardons his own crime. Then Peter Thiel does his evil laugh and we cut to black.
Sulla gave himself absolute legislative powers by military force. Not even remotely similar in their governance styles. Until Trump starts holding Congressional meetings with a cadre of stormtroopers in the room pointing rifles at the legislators, the comparison falls a bit flat to say the least. As I said in another post they are similar in that Sulla was a political outsider and immigration/citizenship status was a hot button issue of his day, but that's about it.
The America of the Founders died by the end of the Civil War, if not by the 1920s when America lost its Anglo-Protestant identity. Maybe, maybe 1964 with the Civil Rights Act and 1965 with the Immigration and Nationality Act. Now we got Poojeets running for President quoting Thomas Jefferson.
Yes, I've always found it weird Sulla doesn't come up. If there is a future Caesar/Napoleon they're currently watching this unfold and scheming what'll happen when they get their seat in power based on what we're witnessing in this chaos. Trump exposed fulcrums of abuse. The question for a would be revolutionary is how to get more direct control, or set up partners/conspirators in those key positions as Trump's done in the court. The Fed, DoD, and congress would be the next big ones to rerig, I guess.
@JohannesNiederhauser Sulla is both a precedent and foil to Caesar. Both are military generals, not men of the senate who avoided battle. Both also marched on Rome and wielded somewhat unchecked power. However Sulla is the one who relinquished his dictatorship, and he was not a populist, whereas Caesar did the inverse. As you stated, Trump is a man of (tremendous) money, it would be hard to imagine him breaking the system of money, democracy, when it has served him so well. He also relinquished control of his presidency at his first terms end (albeit with vocal protest) in an ultimately peaceful manner - no war was fought to transition administrations. This is more akin to Sulla than Caesar. Now, he does have the backing of certain financial and political elites (Musk and Thiel, as you alluded to), who are similarly quite invested in this financial system. Yet the broader established political elite were set against him, as evidenced by the embrace of Cheney and McCain into the anti-Trump camp, though they were once vilified. Whether this is evidence that he is a Caesarian populist is debatable, though I see a fair case for it. He claims to have the intention of bureaucratic reduction, personal economic deregulation, and the bolstering of individual rights - certainly more of a populist lean. If actually accomplished, I do think he might have closer parallels Spengler's Caesar. Not that it breaks democracy itself, but it would do a fair bit of tearing apart the established order. For a nation so inspired by Rome from the outset, it is no wonder we expect it to birth a Caesar at some point. You've definitely got me to thinking about this a lot more!
Writing 100 years ago, Spengler thought it was already winter, and expected the end of the Faustian civilisation (ours) about now. He was right. Clearly it's dead now.
How do you explain all the technological discoveries and advancements that Western Civilization made in the 20th Century? You could argue that we had a decline of the spirit and morality of the West, especially in the later 20th Century, but I am not sure that we could call it Winter until, perhaps, now.
Did you read Spengler? He specifically said that Winter, the dying, is what causes the Caesar to arise. He predicted it would begin around the year 2000, and it did, in a way, with the vast expansion of the federal government under Bush (specifically the national security state) and that this period would last 200 years. The platforming of Unitary Executive Theory prefigures the coming Caesar... if there is one.
@@jl696 There may be technological advancements still but the high culture of the West has been essentially dead for at least 60 years now. One can see this more in certain art forms than others, but in some areas the decline is quite astonishing. Poetry as a high art is in incredible abeyance. When future civilizations look back at the West I believe they will identify the high culture that began in the Renaissance as having ended with or shortly after WWII. Even on the point of technology, it doesn't seem to me there are any longer great advances. The internet can be used for other purposes but it is for most primarily an entertainment device. In other words, simply a development of television. Peter Thiel and others have argued that technology has in fact very much stagnated in the last 50 or so years.
Possibly he’s the Cornelius Sulla, the one who precedes the Cæsar? Could a Cæsar have existed without the actions of Sulla and Marius, nevermind the brorhers Gracchi?
I see estimates in the comments that he is the Gracchi, or Marius, or Sulla, but not Caesar. The analysis I have preferred is from the book Spengler's Future, from the 1980s, which compares leaders and events in different civilizations and offers a way to guess where we are in the cycle, and therefore what to expect. By this analysis, Ross Perot was in the position of the Gracchi, offering to restore the Republic to an earlier mode of working, but falling short of the power and broadness of appeal required. Trump is then Marius, straining the system and showing its cracks and shortcomings, but not really interested in rebuilding the Republic so much as simply enriching and aggrandizing himself. After him will come a Sulla-figure, someone who can use the broken democracy for something like the ends Trump's supporters imagine, selflessly, for the restoration of the Republic and its old order. This works at least to the point that they nation can continue as the dominant nation of the world for some decades, until the true Caesar arises. This person would be born around 2030, and formed in the world of the 30's and 40s, and likely do his work and meet his fate in the 60s and 70s. By this time all resistance to his reworking of society into an Empire will have crumbled: there will be a consensus that the nation cannot go on like it has, and only a focused leadership and supression of dissent can allow certain problems to be solved effectively. So, TLDR, no, he is not Caesar. But he is an important developmental figure, preparing the ground.
"By this time all resistance to his reworking of society into an Empire will have crumbled: there will be a consensus that the nation cannot go on like it has, and only a focused leadership and supression of dissent can allow certain problems to be solved effectively." I think we're close to that tipping point already. It's likely to come in the next decade, not forty or fifty years from now. By then China will already have surpassed the US as the world's dominant economic power, assuming the robots haven't taken over. The only silver lining I can see is that climate change will be so out of control by then that even the dumbest Americans will have to wake up to reality, and maybe - just _maybe_ - they'll realise they've been conned.
Yes! He just announced 1 year of parties, shows and games to celebrate USA 250 year anniversary! This is a way to unite the country and distract them for the real shit happening!
Wouldn't Franklin (I got 4 terms) Roosevelt be the closest thing we have to a Cesar. Trump is gonna do his 4 years and hit the road and the Republicans are gonna have a rough time after he is gone.
Not likely, this is the decade of action. It started in 2020 and will only expand up to 2030. That's literally the plan and trump will play his part in this transformation.
@@nicolasolton I have that same theory. I expected Trump to win, but not this big. Why didn't _they_ steal the election this time? Trump has two options: Comply or get replaced. He might get replaced anyways. We would see levels of patriotism not seen since 9/11. Patriot Act 2.0 or Enabling Act. Vance, who is uncharismatic, would have a mandate to go after those responsible.
@@nicolasolton If sleepy Joe and can do it Trump can do it. Well see how the midterms go, Im sure the dems will bring more fake impeachments if they get the chance.
Maybe his son Don Jr., who has been one of his most vocal supporters? As for Cassius, there are too many candidates to consider. The US political system is full of greedy, manipulative and self-interested individuals.
1960 past Abraham = Julius 1960 past Christ = JFK Both killed by the government. So... Julius = JFK Cleopatra = Marilyn Monroe (suicide) Marc Anthony = RFK Brutus = Teddy Kennedy
I think it's actually JD Vance is the next Caesar, I've been fully convinced for months of this. He's among the youngest, quickest to power figures in politics, and as well spoken and articulate as he is (plus, the already rampant rumors he'll be president in 2028), it's clear to me that Trump will leave a legacy that JD will use to transform the society, for ever, once and for all. He's not going anywhere until at least the 2060s.
The haters will make up all kinds of theories and conspiracies,rather to admit that President Donald Trump is an American for Americans. A True Patriot who fights for his people.
Thiel is involved in facial recognition and surveillance. Musk is involved in Neuralink and space exploration. Thiel is also connected to Curtin Yarvin, a monarchist blogger. Notice that most people are pessimistic about the future. The West has no religion left. All they can unify behind is an optimistic vision of a good economy, new technology, and space exploration. Future American leaders will offer the people a Singapore deal - good governance in exchange for less democracy and less rights.
@@aesop1451 We don't have good government and we aren't getting good government. Looks to me like we may be getting a Zionist and (totally phony) bloodline of Jesus monarchy/one world government. Jesus the rebel leader who wanted to overthrow the Romans and was a Jewish rabbi, not the Christian Jesus. But the Christians will fall for it.
@@aesop1451 "Future American leaders will offer the people a Singapore deal - good governance in exchange for less democracy and less rights." How exactly does less democracy and fewer rights = good governance? The whole of human history demonstrates otherwise. The United States was founded on the principle that only "We, The People" can rule a country well. Its current decline is due to the gradual erosion of democracy by special interests, as the US is basically an oligarchy masquerading as a republic at this point.
Really interesting analysis Johannes. Thanks for providing this thought-provoking article. I am certainly intrigued to better study Spengler as a result. I'm wondering how Spengler explained the cycling long term of cultural civilisation like China which passed through dynasties having what seems to my limited study their own seasonal arcs but the underlying metaculture endures. And would a culture as dynamic as the Western tradition not be able to continue to enter a new Spring season with the right cultural awakenings? Like the artistic and humanistic Renaissance, the intellectual enlightenment, the scientific era, each have their seasonal arcs it seems to me. What comes after would have been unknowable in each of the prior eras and we likewise cannot probably imagine what will come to transform our admittedly wintery self-cannabilistic times.
How can a Caesarian figure work against the money power when Caesar was financed by Crassus and never actually overthrew the money power? I disagree with the premise from the outset.
@@JohannesNiederhauser It's kind of strange that Silicon Valley tech executive would be interested in philosophies and worldviews that are critical of technology. Trust me, technology + monarchy is not going to be as based as you think it is. In the 40s and 50s the West had economic prosperity. If you got rid of all the economic and demographic problems, it would only take us back to the 40s and 50s.
The forest was shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the axe...for the axe convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them.
I really like this quote, but I think you have applied it completely opposite. The wooden handle convincing the trees is identity politics of the democrats, and the axe head is regressive viewpoints, ineffective policies, and a destructive nature that at its core wants to chop down the system rather than maintain or build anything up, because that is the more difficult part of the process that they are too shortsighted to see. Liberals are like a righting crowd with axes, they know that they are angry, and they want to chop things down, but they don’t know who, what, or why. They will end up with a clear cut forest, and wonder why they have no food. That’s putting it in the context of your quote. A vast majority of the Trump supporters have swung his way as a rejection of liberal hysteria.
DON TRUMP equals 121 (English Gematria). MICK SERRIDGE equals 121 (English Gematria) ANU ANUNNAKI equals 121 (English Gematria). 11/11 DEJA VU says that It’s no coincidence that 11 x 11 = 121 and 12 + 21 equals ILL, GAY, DON, A CON, KKK and NRA 33. 21 minus 12 equals 9 (3+3+3). I recorded several songs about Trump in my album named Starseed Nation 2012 and released them on 11/11/11 for a reason. This godly game is on now, David Bowie says, “I’m Afraid of Americans.”
Well it fits what the Bible, Evola, and Guenon say about the End Times. If we take a look at Napoleon, Napoleon was instrumental in spreading the ideas of the French Revolution. He also emancipated the shtetl. You can have a "based" Caesarian figure that is purely pragmatic and has no ideology. The Austrian painter wrote a manifesto and was more uncompromising.
It would be funny to see the alternate future of seeing the fall of America mirroring the fall of Rome. The North falls but the south lives on until the Fall of Richmond, Virginia
Ceasar was not an outsider. He was the definition of a career politician. And he was a socialist. The things Ceasar and Trump have in common. 1. They're both populists. 2. They're both leaders of their political party through sheer popularity. 2. They were both the victims of the weaponization of the legal system to take out a political opponent. 3. Both allied with the richest man in the world, and other interesting characters. 4. Both had womanizing scandals plaguing their political careers. Of course Ceasar lost his political battle and resorted to using the army and became a military Dictator.
Maybe if you won the second term back to back but now since it's so late in his life I think his last term he's going to focus more on it his legacy versus being a Caesar is my not so humble opinion
In brief, I've written and explained before in my own blog and elsewhere that Trump ruling the USA is most accurately comparable to emperor Claudius ruling ancient Rome, noting that there are patterns and regularities in historical events through periods or intervals of time of 2000 years. A relevant notion is the inversion or transmutation of values, along with the periodic recurrence of events, more or less related to Nietzsche’s ideas. Now that Trump is again (or still) the president, I think my comparison and reasoning still hold and are valid. Trump can be compared in particular to one of the Roman Caesars.
You let me down because I never did get to hear what it means "the rule of money "rule of technology "… Considering the fact that technology has always been with us and currency/trade has always been with us. I hope you will do a part two to this topic because it seems like it would be you to talk more about Trump in this regard, especially about Trump, considering the fact that he is practically the first politician, wealthy enough in the system to be independent from the system. So tell us what these things mean in real terms because it's not as if socialism operates outside of money and certainly not outside of technology.
When understanding this topic, it would be beneficial to read any work from Spengler first. Also how is a person independent from the system when he is the member of a business dynasty?
Well if you wanted to draw a parallels between a Trump presidency as being the beginning of a line of emperors, and of course the line of Caesar, well there was close to 5 centuries of of Rome and then after the 5th century within the western Roman empire fell only because of the fact that the Eastern Roman empire didn't want to bother governing Western Europe anymore. The Eastern empire though stayed intact until the 15th century.
Interesting. Yes, AntiChrist Trump is described in Daniel. Daniel 2:41-43 (Revived Roman Empire), Daniel 9:26-27. The people of the Prince are the Romans. (see "4 Biblical Proofs of a Revived Roman Empire - From the Book of Daniel" by Stephen Nielson )
I think a lot of people are just blind to the potential good things possible under the next administration. Like in this video he talks about control of the press is a control of wealth... which is technically true as a statement because Elon bought Twitter, but he did it to put an end to censorship and to protect free speech rather than control it. Trump has made very clear statements that his goal as president is to expand free speech protections onto users of all social media platforms if they want to continue to be protected by Section 230... which basically means that if you want to call yourself a publisher rather than the speaker of the content that you platform you have to also adhere to certain rules pertaining to free speech, which honestly makes a lot of sense.
Decline? The Roman Empire lasted for over 400 years after Caligula in the west and over 1000 years in the east. The golden age of the empire hasn't even started yet in Caligula's time. Whatever antics Caligula did, didn't affect the empire too much.
The fun thing about Caligula was his sarcastic madness was only targeted at the wealthy elites ... Who coincidentally were pretty much the only ones with the literacy and leisure to write contemporary history. Also the other guy is right, it's another 300 years til you could say Rome started to fall and wasn't just a hiccup
I don't remember any Marian wars in the recent past, so no. However, there was another general who rebelled a while before that, kind of foreshadowing what was to come. That could be trump.
Some are intuitive prodigies. They can read the times and their people like no other. I think Trump is one of them. A charismatic figure that can change the tides, if the Providence wills it.
The translation of Oswald Spengler's book "Der Untergang des Abendlandes" as "The coming down of the land of the evening" is correct word for word, but inaccurate in meaning! In fact, in traditional German, going back for example to the biblical translation by Luther, the modern designations of the cardinal points North, South, East, West were unknown! We referred to the movements of the sun in the northern hemisphere, sunrise (morgen) designated the East (hence for example Morgenland (East), sunset the West (hence Abendland) (West), Midday designated the South, the sun being oriented to the South on noon in the Northern hemisphere, and Midnight the North (The opposite position) In the Southern hemisphere, of course, Australia, Chile, Argentina Brazil the sun is! oriented to the North at noon, but these countries did not play a role in this traditional designation, having just been discovered. The correct translation of "Untergang des Abendlandes" is therefore "The coming down of the West"!
@@allelss-oh8sj some dude in a Viking helmet walked around taking selfies with people at the capitol. Feds started a riot to make the protestors outside look like criminals. House democrats like the ACTUAL fascists they are tried to demonize an entire political group and persecute them as terrorists - using the state media to get their base to cheer them on while they commit crimes against the constitution on American citizens. This whole time Democrats did this they said "IF WE DONT ARREST TRUMP FIRST HE'LL AREST US ALL AND THROW US IN CAMPS! WE NEED TO SAVE DEMOCRACY BY DESTROYING IT BEFORE HE DOES!! EXCECUTE ORDER 66!!!!!" or something absurd resembling that. Today they're all kissing his ass hoping he won't prosecute them for being corrupt as fuck and investigations are going on and all kinds of juicy truth is coming out. Sunlight is such a wonderful sanitizer. So is salt. So much salt.
@@allelss-oh8sj Some silly people entered the American Capitol building and instead of sacking and burning it to the ground, took photographs behind restricted lines.
If you want to go deeper into Spengler, here is our course on The Decline of the West: halkyonacademy.teachable.com/p/spengler-the-decline-of-the-west
Trump = 2 terms 45 / 47
Hillary = 0 terms Biden = 1 terms 46 Harris = 0 terms It takes a man to Beat a man ?
Trumps more like the Salad...
I was pondering on this yesterday. Nice one. I think he is, but on the better side of that character.
the donald
THE ANTICHRIST
AMERICA IS MYSTERY BABYLON
Julius Caesar: "I came, I saw, I conquered."
Donald Trump: "covfefe"
Trump: "I came to the border, i saw the border, i built the great big beautiful wall!"
You're goddamn right.
The short answer is No
My answer is yes. All the different threads come together perfectly:
1) The Faustian West is creatively and spiritually exhausted. All it has left is technology, which Elon represents. He's involved in transhumanism through Neuralink and Mars colonization through SpaceX.
2) Spengler's Winter phase corresponds to Guenon and Evola's Kali Yuga or Iron Age. Guenon predicted that there will be a "Great Parody" in the end times. A counter-tradition or inverted spirituality. Transhumanism fits this role, but we should also note that JD Vance has cited Curtis Yarvin as an influence on him. Yarvin is a blogger that has made secular arguments in favor of monarchy.
3) Right now there is a conflict going on in the Middle East. Trump was chosen by a certain group of people to solve this conflict. Once there is peace in the Middle East, the Third Temple will be rebuilt. Look up the IMEC Corridor (India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor). Israel will benefit immensely.
4) Are you starting to see the pieces coming together? The world is embracing right-wing populism and faith in democracy is at an all time low. People have become more willing to give unrestricted power to politicians in hopes that they will solve the issues of the age.
He's not Cesar, he is Nero, known for his personal debaucheries and extravagances and for his burning of Rome and persecutions of Christians.
@@luisbustamante9869 What is wrong with you?
It's like a child found a dictionary. Get a real education and you might see something true.
@@candide1065 Acute observation? Chronic alertness? Terminal bull**** spotting?
But that is not to say that a Caesar will not appear
Exactly
I am constantly preparing myself for the day I rise.
Yes.
@@lawsoflycurgus That’s what they all say.
Always a fan favorite democrat, genghis, liu bei, erik the red, grant or jackson, wouldn't have spared brutus and refused bodyguards; or for such a renowned general cry after pompey's got killed with all of his soldiers that he killed, being a wierd one though, lol?
Or cromwell as one of the most successful generals besides his body getting dug up, with a strong work ethic and new model army, or oda nobunaga, or pharoah khufu or khafre the builders that paid in beer unlike cromwell fighting the king?
He's a populist moderate. Turn off the idiotic corporate propaganda and look at him your damn self is my advice to TDS sufferers.
The evidence shows that Trump was a pretty great leader when weighted towards domestic economics. Real wages rose 8.2% over 4 years and inflation was negligible. Biden's presidency saw a 1% increase in real wages over 4 years with crippling inflation and massive corporate monopolistic interference in the housing market and subsequent housing prices.
@@aleveryonesdaddyhorford8109yeah but it doesn’t change the fact that he is a moderate. I agree with you Trump was great, but he’s a typical centrist with right leaning views. 80s democrat
He's not an idealog,he's a puppet controlled by the heritage foundation.
You spelt fascist wrong.
Correct. His policy positions are basically those of a 90s Democrat.
These people claiming he's an "extremist" have lost all ability to think for themselves.
He is, however, the best president of the 21st century, and it's not even close.
If he delivers his promises to reform and remove a lot of the federal government, he's a Mt. Rushmore level leader.
He was 1 inch away from being Tiberius Gracchus. That's why history doesn't necessarily repeat, it merely rhymes, because serendipity and plain luck happens.
This, he was more of a Gracchi brother. We're still in "rich get richer while forgetting us" stage and not quite at the mob riots and civil wars deciding elections
Ceasar was an actual genius.military and political, which is rare.
Also literary! The Gallic and Civil Wars are a model of elegant Latin, and he also wrote political speeches, as well as poetry (Laus Herculis) and a work on the rules of grammar. Imagine that from Trump!
@@StiloVerso-kn7wn You forgot that he was likely a brilliant mathematician; his calendar is basically still in use.
Alexander the Great, Bonaparte, Eisenhower, Charles de Gaulle...
@@StiloVerso-kn7wn Also fashionable as a young man, handsome and much copied (especially his trend of loose cuffs and standing collars). Musicians sought him out.
Trump is also a genius
He isnt, if anything, he's more like a Graccus figure, a portent of things to come rather than anyone particularly important in and of themselves.
Pretty much. Actually, I'd argue that the first portent of things to come (in the vein of Trump) was Ronald Reagan. He was a certified actor who became president...filthy rich, appealing to the masses, but not really in charge of anything. Trump is another actor who became president...and his presidency and popularity are all about his wealth and showmanship. He's a much worse version of Reagan. Where Reagan acted modest and appeared to have a vision beyond himself, Trump is merely an empty suit egoist, blatantly and solely dedicated to his own celebrity.
this is ridiculous, Graccus made economic policies to benefit the working class like land reforms... Trump is litearlly doing the opposite, enriching the elites and applying tariffs that the middle and lower classes will have to pay.
@@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717 Lol Trump got shot on live TV yet stood up and inspired a nation... and he is just an empty celebrity... say what?
I agree. He's quite a terrifying omen of things to come. If someone manage to become an inheritor of Trump and also actually have intellectual capacities, they might turn "the land of the free" into a totalitarian hellscape.
You really are ignorant@@elvenkind6072
Two interesting notes on this matter,1. Julius Cesar had good reason to bring his soldiers with him, as the last time someone found themselves in the same position they ended up dead, 2. Julius Cesar didn't actually disband the Senate, a successor used the assassination of him to justify doing so
Ironic: because if there is a Ceaser; odds are he's watching this.
To be fair, we do need to find a new form of government and even system building. A revaluation of all values, like Nietzche said. One ought not to be weak like Nietzche and actually set a new system. Why denied nature of its will to power through us, right?
Of course a system for the species, not country men.
yes I am, (I a middle class, Gen Z from suburbs and, have 0 measurable chance of that)
Why do you think so?
I am.
Yes I am watching😂
Absolutely not, he lines up with Tiberius Gracchus. A family member can substitute as Caius Gracchus later.
Yes, indeed
Baron Trump will be king
@ Caius was murdered like his older brother.
No, Julian the apostate.
No, but he plays one on TV.
A Caesar simulacrum
@JohannesNiederhauser 'Not reality - actuality.'
@@JohannesNiederhauser
Technically Trump did set foot upon Caesar's Palace.....
But that was in Las Vegas, Nevada
laughing, imagining this as the post-election recap on mainstream media
None of them have ever read anything except Harry Potter.
@@JohannesNiederhauser Trump is literally voldemort!
@@JohannesNiederhauser chauvinism like this is what rationalizes slavery
@@JohannesNiederhauser😂😂😂 it’s saddening, but so true
@@kulesa No, it's all shitlibs read.
no, he is not the equivalent of caesar. but he is an extraordinary man, meaning he can bend and shape reality around him. i think each is in a cathegory of his own
"Cathegory"?
So he’s just a huge liar
@@StudSupreme yes. is that your only objection?
@@AllMagasGoToGitmo no. he is differently extraordinary, like napoleon is from hitler, from caesar or from alexander note that the extraordinary is not in itself good. it can, in fact, be very bad.
@@celmaidinpadurebaiat he’s extraordinarily mobbed up, yes - he will defang the federal government and sell America off for parts, create his own oligarchs and rule in the model of his teacher, Czar Putin, for whom he was “the apprentice”
“Just leave the liquuuuuid gold to meeee”
The Trumps are the Graccus. Not the Iulius.
Came here to type this
No he isn’t, he is the Sulla.
@@Thought_Processing_
Sulla was an Optimate to turned dictator to undo populist reforms and eliminate his perceived threats to the Republic, then made reforms to turn the state apparatus stronger and prevent other great men from doing the same (unsuccessfully).
Sulla would be the equivalent of some Deep State figure sizing power by authoritarian means to uphold the already existing regime, who would persecute populists like Trump and dissenters.
Sulla is literally the "restricting democracy to save our democracy" meme.
@Thought_Processing_ The best response to this ironically comes from leftist Cenk Uygur. "The Democrats don't really think Trump will be a dictator because when we tried to get someone, anyone to run against Trump, they all declined. 2028, they said. Meanwhile, if they actually believed their rhetoric their wouldn't BE an election in 2028." You've fallen prey to oligarch propaganda released by a media that's been co-opted by the intelligence services. Be a little more discerning in the future, and maybe you, too, can become immune to fake news.
@@Thought_Processing_ agreed. Closer to sulla than caesar. The republicans are optimates. People forgot how fanatical optimates are just because caesar is a populist dictator.
No one who knows anything about the life of Julius Caesar would compare Trump to him in any way.
The fanboiz are stroking off again, disregard
Spengler's Caesar ≠ literally Julius Caesar
Two different things. 😂
"What if the gracchi brothers weren't assassinated" might play out in these 4 years
The mans literally saving the republic and they call him a dictator. Pitiful
I don’t know, but every future president of USA will try to be new Trump .
Ideology is not problem, even socialist trump or Christian fundamentalist trump will be possible in USA.
People in the comments saying he is like Gracchi brothers (hell no!).... the Kennedy Brothers were like the Gracchi, and like them, both were really assassinated by factions of their own government.... also, the Ur-Symbol of the West is infinite space, not static bound form like Apollonian man who thus saw the powerful and divine as in human-form, so our "Ceasar" may or will not even come in human form -- but as something techno-modified.
Ahriman.
Trump is Sulla
Both can be. Trump is if the gracchi brothers didn't have things ended so soon. As well as Julian the apostate. To say otherwise means you have TDS like the person who made this video.
Caesar will appear when Trump fails...
If he does. He only has four short years in office. Not even his strongest supporters think he can do it all in that time. Re-establishing the American republic is a generational project.
We already had our Ceaser. A long time ago. It was Lincoln.
Biden and harris messed up so bad he might need longer than 4 years. But what we have seen in one week of him getting elecred is definitely a good sign, and if we take house, he'll be able to fix it a lot faster.
Trump fail? HA! Trump has succeeded TWICE ... and rather dramatically at that.
I know a Cesar....
His name is "Cesar Octavio R. Dominguez de la Cruz" and he's an owner of a landscape business in my town.
Dear Johannes,
thank you for your contribution! I'd like to share my thoughts. Inspired by readings like Varoufakis's Technofeudalism, I delved into some numbers. It's clear that real estate is a far more critical asset than big tech. According to a recent McKinsey study, 66% of global net worth is tied to real estate-a sector heavily influenced by demographics. As you know, the West faces very low birth rates. This, combined with welfare systems (especially in Germany), is a key driver for migration, as it sustains demand for real estate. Imagine the decline if there were no migration. Emanuel Todd suggests in Lineages of Modernity that Germany might have a vested interest in prolonging the Ukraine conflict to benefit from Ukrainian migration.
In the current decline, asset owners are motivated to preserve their wealth despite demographic and economic challenges. The goal appears to be to maintain stability, often at the expense of the lower classes. I believe the political influence of the real estate asset class is still underestimated (in the media or critical "bubble"). Just my two cents.
@@adalbertthomalla4887 If I may add some cents...It is one of the biggest schemes&scame, combined with construction industry especially in Europe. Where I'm from ..we have the biggest amonut of sattelite mals per citizen with a lot of potential farmland covered in concrete, combined with cheap workfoce from south of Balkan peninsula, they are the core of construction buisines...
I think Trump is more akin to the Gracchi brothers. Wealthy plebeians who rose through the ranks and wanted to break down the Patrician oligarchy in Rome by appealing to populism
No.He is an important character in the ending American empire. Like those kings or emperors who appear just before empires go down.The calm before the storm.
The salt and tears are strong in this one.
@@candide1065very salty, need some fries with it.
@candide1065
I am not an American nor do I care about your political parties. I am neutral about Trump.The fact is your empire is going down regardless of Trump.
Salty, teary-eyed, copium right here.
Trump was installed by the Zionist Empire. It is not going down.
Trump: veni, vici, prayed at the wailing wall
I thought more like Scooby-Doo?
lol the left can't find a way to label him.
@ I just did
Thank you for this. Do you have a recommendation on an english language translation of Spengler's Decline?
Sulla is more analogous imho. The one who shows where the cracks are and forces drastic measures. Caesar is someone watching this unfold right now and getting creative ideas about what they could do from that position of power.
My anime plot prediction is that Vance assA$$inates him on Jan 6 2029 instead of certifying whoever. He becomes president and pardons his own crime. Then Peter Thiel does his evil laugh and we cut to black.
I really like this comment, well put!
@@AdobadoFantastico "Et tu, Vance?"
@@AdobadoFantastico Unlikely outcome.
Sulla gave himself absolute legislative powers by military force. Not even remotely similar in their governance styles. Until Trump starts holding Congressional meetings with a cadre of stormtroopers in the room pointing rifles at the legislators, the comparison falls a bit flat to say the least. As I said in another post they are similar in that Sulla was a political outsider and immigration/citizenship status was a hot button issue of his day, but that's about it.
no, he's both Gracchi brothers at the same time, the last time for the rich to give up power in order to save themselves
Reddit tier bullshit cope. There will be no class war. You will do nothing, you have no power or balls
Johannes, my brother... bloody BRILLIANT. Cheers, Prost from America!!
Any thoughts on him being more like a Sulla?
Share yours
The America of the Founders died by the end of the Civil War, if not by the 1920s when America lost its Anglo-Protestant identity. Maybe, maybe 1964 with the Civil Rights Act and 1965 with the Immigration and Nationality Act. Now we got Poojeets running for President quoting Thomas Jefferson.
Yes, I've always found it weird Sulla doesn't come up. If there is a future Caesar/Napoleon they're currently watching this unfold and scheming what'll happen when they get their seat in power based on what we're witnessing in this chaos. Trump exposed fulcrums of abuse. The question for a would be revolutionary is how to get more direct control, or set up partners/conspirators in those key positions as Trump's done in the court. The Fed, DoD, and congress would be the next big ones to rerig, I guess.
@JohannesNiederhauser
Sulla is both a precedent and foil to Caesar. Both are military generals, not men of the senate who avoided battle. Both also marched on Rome and wielded somewhat unchecked power. However Sulla is the one who relinquished his dictatorship, and he was not a populist, whereas Caesar did the inverse.
As you stated, Trump is a man of (tremendous) money, it would be hard to imagine him breaking the system of money, democracy, when it has served him so well. He also relinquished control of his presidency at his first terms end (albeit with vocal protest) in an ultimately peaceful manner - no war was fought to transition administrations. This is more akin to Sulla than Caesar.
Now, he does have the backing of certain financial and political elites (Musk and Thiel, as you alluded to), who are similarly quite invested in this financial system. Yet the broader established political elite were set against him, as evidenced by the embrace of Cheney and McCain into the anti-Trump camp, though they were once vilified. Whether this is evidence that he is a Caesarian populist is debatable, though I see a fair case for it.
He claims to have the intention of bureaucratic reduction, personal economic deregulation, and the bolstering of individual rights - certainly more of a populist lean. If actually accomplished, I do think he might have closer parallels Spengler's Caesar. Not that it breaks democracy itself, but it would do a fair bit of tearing apart the established order.
For a nation so inspired by Rome from the outset, it is no wonder we expect it to birth a Caesar at some point. You've definitely got me to thinking about this a lot more!
@@HunterNinjacat Great, thank you!
Writing 100 years ago, Spengler thought it was already winter, and expected the end of the Faustian civilisation (ours) about now. He was right. Clearly it's dead now.
How do you explain all the technological discoveries and advancements that Western Civilization made in the 20th Century? You could argue that we had a decline of the spirit and morality of the West, especially in the later 20th Century, but I am not sure that we could call it Winter until, perhaps, now.
Did you read Spengler? He specifically said that Winter, the dying, is what causes the Caesar to arise. He predicted it would begin around the year 2000, and it did, in a way, with the vast expansion of the federal government under Bush (specifically the national security state) and that this period would last 200 years. The platforming of Unitary Executive Theory prefigures the coming Caesar... if there is one.
@@jl696 There may be technological advancements still but the high culture of the West has been essentially dead for at least 60 years now. One can see this more in certain art forms than others, but in some areas the decline is quite astonishing. Poetry as a high art is in incredible abeyance. When future civilizations look back at the West I believe they will identify the high culture that began in the Renaissance as having ended with or shortly after WWII.
Even on the point of technology, it doesn't seem to me there are any longer great advances. The internet can be used for other purposes but it is for most primarily an entertainment device. In other words, simply a development of television. Peter Thiel and others have argued that technology has in fact very much stagnated in the last 50 or so years.
We gotta get that Brawndo on the crops, stat
@@redcatofdeaththe internet is more than entertainment, it’s surveillance; funny you should mention Thiel 🤔
Possibly he’s the Cornelius Sulla, the one who precedes the Cæsar? Could a Cæsar have existed without the actions of Sulla and Marius, nevermind the brorhers Gracchi?
Donald ❌
Barron ✅
Can't wait to see Baron's rise to power. Would be interesting to see.
Caesar Augustus, that'd make Vance his Anthony?
You're certifable.
@@mnk9073 And who is his Agrippa?
@@jl696 Pim Tool (Tim Pool)
I see estimates in the comments that he is the Gracchi, or Marius, or Sulla, but not Caesar. The analysis I have preferred is from the book Spengler's Future, from the 1980s, which compares leaders and events in different civilizations and offers a way to guess where we are in the cycle, and therefore what to expect. By this analysis, Ross Perot was in the position of the Gracchi, offering to restore the Republic to an earlier mode of working, but falling short of the power and broadness of appeal required. Trump is then Marius, straining the system and showing its cracks and shortcomings, but not really interested in rebuilding the Republic so much as simply enriching and aggrandizing himself.
After him will come a Sulla-figure, someone who can use the broken democracy for something like the ends Trump's supporters imagine, selflessly, for the restoration of the Republic and its old order. This works at least to the point that they nation can continue as the dominant nation of the world for some decades, until the true Caesar arises. This person would be born around 2030, and formed in the world of the 30's and 40s, and likely do his work and meet his fate in the 60s and 70s. By this time all resistance to his reworking of society into an Empire will have crumbled: there will be a consensus that the nation cannot go on like it has, and only a focused leadership and supression of dissent can allow certain problems to be solved effectively.
So, TLDR, no, he is not Caesar. But he is an important developmental figure, preparing the ground.
"By this time all resistance to his reworking of society into an Empire will have crumbled: there will be a consensus that the nation cannot go on like it has, and only a focused leadership and supression of dissent can allow certain problems to be solved effectively."
I think we're close to that tipping point already. It's likely to come in the next decade, not forty or fifty years from now. By then China will already have surpassed the US as the world's dominant economic power, assuming the robots haven't taken over. The only silver lining I can see is that climate change will be so out of control by then that even the dumbest Americans will have to wake up to reality, and maybe - just _maybe_ - they'll realise they've been conned.
I remember in Trump Part 1 thinking him a sort of Charlemagne, resurrecting an ancient order in a mock-Roman fashion.
Maybe, except Charles was at least 2x as literate lmaoooo
He's my Orange Julius!!!🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊
(See what I did there?? I miss Orange Julius!!! It was soooooo good!!)
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@johannesniederhauser how exactly did Crassus (the rule of money) compare to money? How did Crassus change Caesarism?
Yes! He just announced 1 year of parties, shows and games to celebrate USA 250 year anniversary! This is a way to unite the country and distract them for the real shit happening!
Fascinating to listen to. Spengler is one of those authors who seems interesting but it is unlikely I will ever get to him.
great leaders require a great people. there is no great people left
But he's going to be surrounding himself with "Very fine people". 🙄
Trump might be like an Italian figure, but it's not Caesar, it's Mussolini.
@@Neonmirrorblack well, fascist italy was mediocre so that statement is correct.
Don't insult Caesar . I remember translating his Gallic Wars
Wouldn't Franklin (I got 4 terms) Roosevelt be the closest thing we have to a Cesar. Trump is gonna do his 4 years and hit the road and the Republicans are gonna have a rough time after he is gone.
Not likely, this is the decade of action. It started in 2020 and will only expand up to 2030. That's literally the plan and trump will play his part in this transformation.
Trump wont last 4 years...cue Vance.
@@nicolasolton I have that same theory. I expected Trump to win, but not this big. Why didn't _they_ steal the election this time? Trump has two options: Comply or get replaced. He might get replaced anyways. We would see levels of patriotism not seen since 9/11. Patriot Act 2.0 or Enabling Act. Vance, who is uncharismatic, would have a mandate to go after those responsible.
you really think Trump is stopping at 4 years? no way, he has plans to perpetuate himslef in power
@@nicolasolton If sleepy Joe and can do it Trump can do it. Well see how the midterms go, Im sure the dems will bring more fake impeachments if they get the chance.
No, he’s the Gracchi brothers as one person. From listening to him, I would say Vance is closer to a potential Caesar than Trump
Julius Caesar ? If so I wonder who is Brutus among his "friends"
as in "Et tu Brute.."
Maybe his son Don Jr., who has been one of his most vocal supporters?
As for Cassius, there are too many candidates to consider. The US political system is full of greedy, manipulative and self-interested individuals.
1960 past Abraham = Julius
1960 past Christ = JFK
Both killed by the government.
So...
Julius = JFK
Cleopatra = Marilyn Monroe (suicide)
Marc Anthony = RFK
Brutus = Teddy Kennedy
Marjorie Taylor Greeen 🤔
I think it's actually JD Vance is the next Caesar, I've been fully convinced for months of this. He's among the youngest, quickest to power figures in politics, and as well spoken and articulate as he is (plus, the already rampant rumors he'll be president in 2028), it's clear to me that Trump will leave a legacy that JD will use to transform the society, for ever, once and for all.
He's not going anywhere until at least the 2060s.
Cometh the hour, cometh the man. The only choice in this race. Caesar? That's a bit melodramatic.
if that means "The evil empire" by RATM becomes USA soundtrack, might as well
The haters will make up all kinds of theories and conspiracies,rather to admit that President Donald Trump is an American for Americans. A True Patriot who fights for his people.
How exactly would Peter Thiel and Elon Musk be Caesarian? Would you kindly expand on that?
Elon may turn out to be like Crassus.😮
Thiel is involved in facial recognition and surveillance. Musk is involved in Neuralink and space exploration. Thiel is also connected to Curtin Yarvin, a monarchist blogger. Notice that most people are pessimistic about the future. The West has no religion left. All they can unify behind is an optimistic vision of a good economy, new technology, and space exploration. Future American leaders will offer the people a Singapore deal - good governance in exchange for less democracy and less rights.
@@aesop1451 it’s funny you say that, because I’m in Singapore right now
@@aesop1451 We don't have good government and we aren't getting good government. Looks to me like we may be getting a Zionist and (totally phony) bloodline of Jesus monarchy/one world government. Jesus the rebel leader who wanted to overthrow the Romans and was a Jewish rabbi, not the Christian Jesus. But the Christians will fall for it.
@@aesop1451 "Future American leaders will offer the people a Singapore deal - good governance in exchange for less democracy and less rights."
How exactly does less democracy and fewer rights = good governance? The whole of human history demonstrates otherwise. The United States was founded on the principle that only "We, The People" can rule a country well. Its current decline is due to the gradual erosion of democracy by special interests, as the US is basically an oligarchy masquerading as a republic at this point.
What do you have against Cesar?
Really interesting analysis Johannes. Thanks for providing this thought-provoking article. I am certainly intrigued to better study Spengler as a result. I'm wondering how Spengler explained the cycling long term of cultural civilisation like China which passed through dynasties having what seems to my limited study their own seasonal arcs but the underlying metaculture endures. And would a culture as dynamic as the Western tradition not be able to continue to enter a new Spring season with the right cultural awakenings? Like the artistic and humanistic Renaissance, the intellectual enlightenment, the scientific era, each have their seasonal arcs it seems to me. What comes after would have been unknowable in each of the prior eras and we likewise cannot probably imagine what will come to transform our admittedly wintery self-cannabilistic times.
There are 2 ceazars, the title or the personality? Which ceazar are u referring to? 🤔
How can a Caesarian figure work against the money power when Caesar was financed by Crassus and never actually overthrew the money power? I disagree with the premise from the outset.
i hope Marc Andresson sees this
He has enrolled in some of our courses so maybe yes.
@@JohannesNiederhauser It's kind of strange that Silicon Valley tech executive would be interested in philosophies and worldviews that are critical of technology. Trust me, technology + monarchy is not going to be as based as you think it is. In the 40s and 50s the West had economic prosperity. If you got rid of all the economic and demographic problems, it would only take us back to the 40s and 50s.
Trump is clearly a Gracchus
Queens of the Stone Age: in times New Roman ….
Great analysis!
@@alexvatoussis6001 thank you, Alex. Hope you’re well
The forest was shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the axe...for the axe convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them.
I really like this quote, but I think you have applied it completely opposite. The wooden handle convincing the trees is identity politics of the democrats, and the axe head is regressive viewpoints, ineffective policies, and a destructive nature that at its core wants to chop down the system rather than maintain or build anything up, because that is the more difficult part of the process that they are too shortsighted to see. Liberals are like a righting crowd with axes, they know that they are angry, and they want to chop things down, but they don’t know who, what, or why. They will end up with a clear cut forest, and wonder why they have no food.
That’s putting it in the context of your quote. A vast majority of the Trump supporters have swung his way as a rejection of liberal hysteria.
@@BaliBillionaire Nah, man, it's a clown working as a fry cook at McDonald's and riding in a garbage truck.
@@BaliBillionaire Nah, man, it's a rich man pretending to work as a fry cook at McDonald's and riding in a garbage truck.
@@BaliBillionaire Garbage trucks and French Fries make a rich man a commoner, not.
@@BaliBillionaire What a load of nonsense.
DON TRUMP equals 121 (English Gematria).
MICK SERRIDGE equals 121 (English Gematria)
ANU ANUNNAKI equals 121 (English Gematria).
11/11 DEJA VU says that It’s no coincidence that 11 x 11 = 121 and 12 + 21 equals ILL, GAY, DON, A CON, KKK and NRA 33. 21 minus 12 equals 9 (3+3+3). I recorded several songs about Trump in my album named Starseed Nation 2012 and released them on 11/11/11 for a reason. This godly game is on now, David Bowie says, “I’m Afraid of Americans.”
Irrefutable logic
Believe it or not I predicted 4 years ago trump would be reelected, this time we're in for a big surprise. Not a good one either.
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Think a new 'varient' of Warp Speed on pure steroids.
"he who pays the piper, calls the tune"
any potential to be Caesar ended when Trump accepted Sheldon's shekels.
Well it fits what the Bible, Evola, and Guenon say about the End Times. If we take a look at Napoleon, Napoleon was instrumental in spreading the ideas of the French Revolution. He also emancipated the shtetl. You can have a "based" Caesarian figure that is purely pragmatic and has no ideology. The Austrian painter wrote a manifesto and was more uncompromising.
Dos a search for "Caesar and the Jews"
It would be funny to see the alternate future of seeing the fall of America mirroring the fall of Rome. The North falls but the south lives on until the Fall of Richmond, Virginia
Have you read 'The Coming Caesars' by Amaury de riencourt? It's based on spengler.
His is the Caesarean section to the establishment, and will deliver us from the womb of evil.
Ceasar was not an outsider. He was the definition of a career politician. And he was a socialist.
The things Ceasar and Trump have in common.
1. They're both populists.
2. They're both leaders of their political party through sheer popularity.
2. They were both the victims of the weaponization of the legal system to take out a political opponent.
3. Both allied with the richest man in the world, and other interesting characters.
4. Both had womanizing scandals plaguing their political careers.
Of course Ceasar lost his political battle and resorted to using the army and became a military Dictator.
Baron will be Augustus.
No. They’re completely different people with completely different mindsets & goals.
Maybe if you won the second term back to back but now since it's so late in his life I think his last term he's going to focus more on it his legacy versus being a Caesar is my not so humble opinion
In brief, I've written and explained before in my own blog and elsewhere that Trump ruling the USA is most accurately comparable to emperor Claudius ruling ancient Rome, noting that there are patterns and regularities in historical events through periods or intervals of time of 2000 years. A relevant notion is the inversion or transmutation of values, along with the periodic recurrence of events, more or less related to Nietzsche’s ideas. Now that Trump is again (or still) the president, I think my comparison and reasoning still hold and are valid. Trump can be compared in particular to one of the Roman Caesars.
Never saw so much nonsense in one video.
Are you from they/ them gang??
@@lintoppthomas No, I'm a Julius Ceasar fan. Comparing Trump to Ceasar is an insult.
This will be fun to look back at when he secures his third term
May he have the success of Alexander and avoid the fate of Caesar.
You let me down because I never did get to hear what it means "the rule of money "rule of technology "… Considering the fact that technology has always been with us and currency/trade has always been with us.
I hope you will do a part two to this topic because it seems like it would be you to talk more about Trump in this regard, especially about Trump, considering the fact that he is practically the first politician, wealthy enough in the system to be independent from the system.
So tell us what these things mean in real terms because it's not as if socialism operates outside of money and certainly not outside of technology.
When understanding this topic, it would be beneficial to read any work from Spengler first. Also how is a person independent from the system when he is the member of a business dynasty?
Well if you wanted to draw a parallels between a Trump presidency as being the beginning of a line of emperors, and of course the line of Caesar, well there was close to 5 centuries of of Rome and then after the 5th century within the western Roman empire fell only because of the fact that the Eastern Roman empire didn't want to bother governing Western Europe anymore. The Eastern empire though stayed intact until the 15th century.
Interesting. Yes, AntiChrist Trump is described in Daniel. Daniel 2:41-43 (Revived Roman Empire), Daniel 9:26-27. The people of the Prince are the Romans. (see "4 Biblical Proofs of a Revived Roman Empire - From the Book of Daniel" by Stephen Nielson )
Trump reminds me more of Caligula, the mad and depraved emperor who helped accelerate the decline of the Roman Empire.
I think a lot of people are just blind to the potential good things possible under the next administration. Like in this video he talks about control of the press is a control of wealth... which is technically true as a statement because Elon bought Twitter, but he did it to put an end to censorship and to protect free speech rather than control it.
Trump has made very clear statements that his goal as president is to expand free speech protections onto users of all social media platforms if they want to continue to be protected by Section 230... which basically means that if you want to call yourself a publisher rather than the speaker of the content that you platform you have to also adhere to certain rules pertaining to free speech, which honestly makes a lot of sense.
Decline? The Roman Empire lasted for over 400 years after Caligula in the west and over 1000 years in the east. The golden age of the empire hasn't even started yet in Caligula's time. Whatever antics Caligula did, didn't affect the empire too much.
The fun thing about Caligula was his sarcastic madness was only targeted at the wealthy elites
... Who coincidentally were pretty much the only ones with the literacy and leisure to write contemporary history.
Also the other guy is right, it's another 300 years til you could say Rome started to fall and wasn't just a hiccup
Do you think the agencies will let him?
Actually if you think about it he's more like Pompey Magnus.
I don't remember any Marian wars in the recent past, so no. However, there was another general who rebelled a while before that, kind of foreshadowing what was to come. That could be trump.
Some are intuitive prodigies. They can read the times and their people like no other. I think Trump is one of them. A charismatic figure that can change the tides, if the Providence wills it.
He's very similar to Hadrian in temperament.
He's more like Caligula.
Netanyahu maybe. Clinging to imperium to avoid prosecution.
Much more like little boots Caligula or if you prefer Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus.
No he's Sulla, and you know why that's scarier
Good video,I should read up on Spengler
Trump is Marius. Marius inspired Caeser. Caeser is yet to come.
This. A Gracchi or Marius, not yet Caesar
The disrespect to Ceasar is wild
The short answer is no, but we can keep hoping!
Sing the "Star Spengler banner"
Need a Sulla before Caesar
No. He's down with the money.
We are not getting any order and stability.
Caesar was intelligent ,cultured and wrote a book .
Too bad he couldn't stop his successors from being corrupt clowns.
People in these comments have no clue about any of Spengler’s works
The translation of Oswald Spengler's book "Der Untergang des Abendlandes" as "The coming down of the land of the evening" is correct word for word, but inaccurate in meaning! In fact, in traditional German, going back for example to the biblical translation by Luther, the modern designations of the cardinal points North, South, East, West were unknown! We referred to the movements of the sun in the northern hemisphere, sunrise (morgen) designated the East (hence for example Morgenland (East), sunset the West (hence Abendland) (West), Midday designated the South, the sun being oriented to the South on noon in the Northern hemisphere, and Midnight the North (The opposite position) In the Southern hemisphere, of course, Australia, Chile, Argentina Brazil the sun is! oriented to the North at noon, but these countries did not play a role in this traditional designation, having just been discovered. The correct translation of "Untergang des Abendlandes" is therefore "The coming down of the West"!
Nein.
@@JohannesNiederhauserReread an old version of the Bible in German!
Dude had his Rubicon (did not cross) on 6th of January 2020.
Yup
What happened that day
@@allelss-oh8sj some dude in a Viking helmet walked around taking selfies with people at the capitol. Feds started a riot to make the protestors outside look like criminals. House democrats like the ACTUAL fascists they are tried to demonize an entire political group and persecute them as terrorists - using the state media to get their base to cheer them on while they commit crimes against the constitution on American citizens.
This whole time Democrats did this they said "IF WE DONT ARREST TRUMP FIRST HE'LL AREST US ALL AND THROW US IN CAMPS! WE NEED TO SAVE DEMOCRACY BY DESTROYING IT BEFORE HE DOES!! EXCECUTE ORDER 66!!!!!" or something absurd resembling that.
Today they're all kissing his ass hoping he won't prosecute them for being corrupt as fuck and investigations are going on and all kinds of juicy truth is coming out. Sunlight is such a wonderful sanitizer. So is salt. So much salt.
@@allelss-oh8sj Some silly people entered the American Capitol building and instead of sacking and burning it to the ground, took photographs behind restricted lines.
It’ll be his son, Baron
he is king Saul, the first king who was quite horrible
Where's Brutus? JD or Elon?