Again, somehow missed this one. I really enjoyed the proof of concept on twist forged threads. Appears as if a torch is a necessity as in my opinion is the left hand thread. For someone paying attention it’s just another tidbit to prove it was hand made. Keep at it, love the channel.
Lovely hook John the thread works very well. I did have a chuckle watching you turning the hook the wrong way trying to screw it in the first time 🤣 Great to see Hook of the Week lives on. 👍⚒
Yeah, I noticed the left-hand threads as soon as you started twisting. I tried yelling at the screen, but guess you didn't hear me. LOL Nice looking hook. Maybe add a decorative plate before the twist? Nice reverse thread accomplished, good job.
Yea, you better hang a note on it that says “righty loosey” or you’re going to be cussing when you go to take that thing out a few years from now and forget that it has that unique feature to it.
Very nice clean look when its installed !!😊 Awesome John as always !😉 I like the backwards threads ! That will throw someone for a loop when they try to remove it !!🤣😂🤣🤔 Thanks again John your the man !🙂
Yet another superb lesson making the screw thread, I learn something from every video John. I was wondering about the direction of twist too while you were making it. Thanks for all your great educational videos. Long live Hook of The Week.
That actually worked really well. Never thought of making lag screws. I noticed the left threads as soon as you tried to screw it in. 😜 glad you caught it too. Nicely done.
That's really cool! I've never really thought about how wood screw threads would have been made, but that idea is brilliant!! Time for some experimenting 🤔👍
Very nice hook, and the left hand thread caught my attention. I've learned over the years to mark left handers to avoid surprises later. Thanks for showing us this!
I actually made a batch of Candy Canes from square 1/4 for Christmas, but the whole time all I could think is that they looked like treads! I would never have though of making a hook with that type of end on it though. Great job, as always John. I love watching the hotw!
Never seen it. Never even HEARD of it! Fantastic. Always learn something here. I’m jealous that you live in a log home and in Beulah. Take care. John in Colorado
nice job.. I had not thought about the twist on the screw part either as I sat and watch you do it.,.. Live and learn John.. thanks as always.. learned something new today.. carry on!
Fun to experiment especially if more weight rating was needed though A person could rig up a scale pull test I figure the type of wood could be a factor as well
John, thank you for not being perfect and for being humble... it is something we can all use a dose of from time to time. Little known secrete - I'm note perfect either (please don't tell my wife I said that 😎).
Good morning John. I have been enjoying the Sunday morning hooks. I made me a twisting wrench exactly like yours. I found some old wrenches on a farm auction. One is the same size you used and another is the next size bigger. They made fantastic twisting wrenches.
I have looked for a wood screw dye. was unable to find one. I oftentimes wonder how they did it back in the day. Now I know, thanks John learn something every day
Just watched again the Francis Whitaker inspired coat rack proposed in the video. While educational content is superb in the older video too, and it's definitely a lot of fun to watch, the other things like picture quality, narration, video editing - i.e. overal look and feel of the video is so much more advanced now! Thanks, and Happy New Year!
Great little project. I have been buying 1/4 ceiling hooks and reforging them to make a little curl and a hook to match the S hooks or Trammel hooks. This looks like a challenge to make multiples of. Be nice for one of a kind hooks, for sure. Another peaceful Sunday morning hook of the week in the bag. Thanks for sharing....
I once read in a 1922 shop tip book, that dies for wood screw threads were available by suppliers. Although this was in Germany, although ive never seen that type of die.
Once again very nice video and a great inspiration. I have been wanting to try threads like that for a while, now I have a better idea of how to do it. I think it would be useful on a lot of different hooks ,instead of making drive hooks to pound into a wooden surface I think the threads will hold better and not pull out as easily.
Nice to see someone making threads like that. good vid. I would like to see you make a wood auger bit. I believe that I have 2 hear that were hand forged but am not sure on that.
I made a hook like that years ago when I first started smithing, watch the direction you twist! I made probably the only left hand threaded screw hook in the world.
Great hook. Have to admit I was interested to see how you went about doing the threads consistent rate of twist. Your's came out very nice. So as you were discussing the thread option, b4 I knew you were going to be shouldering your hook. My very 1st thought was oooh he's going to Fuller down the middle of the bar in 4 sides to give good thread purchase. Then I saw you go to 1/4" n thought nope to small for that. See this is why I like this format. It caused me to think fast about what your steps in order of operations and what you plan for end result. Lol TBH I don't get it right very often but I'm improving my ratio. IMHO that's what makes you a great teacher...you inspire us to learn and think on our own! 🙏 Blessed be John Crawford out ⚒️🧙♂️
I noticed the lefty threads, too! Wanted to send a quick Email to tell you but then noticed the time elapsed and knew you'd figure it out. I think that was a great project, thank you for your time, Greg.
Hello John Thanks for the teachfull video It a pleasure to see how you create that hook I need such hooks and i will Made them After your advice I wish you and your family a healthy and good new year 2020 Stay save and wear your safty glasses 😉😁 I love your work go on Good bless you Yours Frank
Looks great! I probably would have tried fullering the length of all four sides prior to twisting (making a fat X cross section) to get more bite on the threads. From how firmly yours held, I'm glad to see that would be unnecessary. You may have saved me a bit of work, thanks!
Thanks for this one John now I don't have cut the threads off the bolts and weld them on the hook. about the thread you did not screw it up John it works and that's all that matters.
As always, a delight to wake up to HOTW. Think I'll try your threading technique on the RR Spike drive hook you showed us earlier! Should be an interesting challenge. Thanks for your continued inspiration!
If you have a board to do it. That looks like a good way to be able to hang a thing from the rafters in a shop. Say if one needed a bit of extra light or move a camera to a more comfortable spot. Possibly a fall arrest for hammer (for changing dies) a little to weak for my liking to chance my hand to blow during work on a thing.
I was wondering how threads were made in the old times. Now...what about nuts for bolts? How they use to made then 200 years ago? Thanks for the video! P.s.: the best teacher is the one who shows his mistakes! Congratulatipns, John!
Mr John, Had a thought about needing a ceiling hook and remembered you had done one in the HOW series. Took some searching because you made a few that year. When watching, a couple things came to mind. 1. While watching there seemed to be something off. Took half the video to figure out your hammer blows all sounded like rawhide or wood rather than metal. Good graphic equalizer? 2. Realized I don't have an oxy/acet torch, nor the funds for one. Gonna have to figure that out. TS800 Benzmatic maybe? 3. When getting the tip of the screw ready, could extending the twist a bit farther and then grinding to a point work. You'd still have part of the "threads" almost to the end. I'd still predrill though.
Been curious to try this myself! Could be worth testing with triangle bar that you twist, then would be fewer threads.... though perhaps you want more but they would be sharper for sure. Would just have to use right swage I'd assume
I've always thought about maybe putting a round bar into a slightly-too-small rounding jig in order to squish out 2 thin, sharp "corners" or "wings" and then twist it. It seems (in my newbie brain) like that would make some really good double threads... 🤔
I was screaming at the monitor, other way, other way. Would have never thought to twist the shank to make threads... good job. I was thing about taking a cold lag screw and hot plates and hammer the lag btween them over and over till it made a good enough impression . Then put your hot shank in there and try to hammer the threads into the shank.
Hey bud cool project. When I need a square monkey tool I use a deep heavy wall impact socket works great. It can even go in the impact gun to do the hammering for you. Round only. Thx bud .....paul
I would be curious if you could swedge threads on. I have seen a leaf pattern on swedge blocks, that said I have respect for anyone with to patients and self discipline to maintain the accuracy needed for a passable fit.
From childhood experience trying to cut welding rods using a drill & wire snips... Believe It's very likely to make a thread cutting tongs. Just have to be consistent with the turning. There's 2cents... buy a 1/4 stick of gum. lol
Is the notion of making a tenon spring die just to modify to see if it'd cut the threads for wood screws... Would this be worth your time. I'd actually like to see if you could make it work. Thanks. Anybody else think that this will make a great video ? or, do y'all disagree ?
I would like to see just how much a screw like this would hold before starting to tear out. It looks like it should easily support 10 - 15 pounds, and that would be more than sufficient to hang a medium sized plant from. I have heard that hand-made (square) nails have a higher strength for pull-out compared to machine-made (round/wire) nails because they have edges, but I have never seen any evidence that anyone has actually tested to see if there is any significant difference. I personal guess is that square nails for a given size are slightly stronger, but that would have to do with the actual surface area of the nail in contact with the wood (4*d > pi * d), and if the square nail is tapered along it's entire length, it may even be weaker. If I had to speculate on where this idea came from, it would be the old nail makers who were trying to compete with the cheaper-to-manufacture, machine-made, wire nails. As they started to lose business to the mass produced wire nail, they surely would have disparaged the wire nail's strength, holding capacity, rust resistance, and maybe even the marital status of the wire nail's parents; if they thought it would persuade people to buy their products.
Square nails are said to hold better because they distort the grain in the wood more angling the grain in. When trying to pull them out it must straighten that bit of grain which forces it to grab tighter.
Again, somehow missed this one. I really enjoyed the proof of concept on twist forged threads. Appears as if a torch is a necessity as in my opinion is the left hand thread. For someone paying attention it’s just another tidbit to prove it was hand made. Keep at it, love the channel.
Lovely hook John the thread works very well. I did have a chuckle watching you turning the hook the wrong way trying to screw it in the first time 🤣 Great to see Hook of the Week lives on. 👍⚒
What he said! ...... Seriously I need to be quicker off the mark ;0)
Yeah, I noticed the left-hand threads as soon as you started twisting. I tried yelling at the screen, but guess you didn't hear me. LOL
Nice looking hook. Maybe add a decorative plate before the twist? Nice reverse thread accomplished, good job.
I always wondered how forged screws worked. Another excellent tip.
Nice anti-theft threads. Good job bud.
Yea, you better hang a note on it that says “righty loosey” or you’re going to be cussing when you go to take that thing out a few years from now and forget that it has that unique feature to it.
Very nice clean look when its installed !!😊 Awesome John as always !😉 I like the backwards threads ! That will throw someone for a loop when they try to remove it !!🤣😂🤣🤔 Thanks again John your the man !🙂
That is a good looking screw-hook, it looks like a large bent spike much better than the crap home improvement stores sell.
Yet another superb lesson making the screw thread, I learn something from every video John. I was wondering about the direction of twist too while you were making it. Thanks for all your great educational videos. Long live Hook of The Week.
That actually worked really well. Never thought of making lag screws. I noticed the left threads as soon as you tried to screw it in. 😜 glad you caught it too. Nicely done.
Best like to dislike ratio I’ve ever seen, that’s what happens when you are a kind humble person
Another awesome hook. Great even twist! This series keeps getting better and better!
Neat! That method of threading worked a whole lot better than I would have expected too.
Very cool...you never fail to entertain and educate me...thank-you
That's really cool! I've never really thought about how wood screw threads would have been made, but that idea is brilliant!! Time for some experimenting 🤔👍
Nice, you always come up with something the beginner can do. Good job.
Very nice hook, and the left hand thread caught my attention. I've learned over the years to mark left handers to avoid surprises later. Thanks for showing us this!
I actually made a batch of Candy Canes from square 1/4 for Christmas, but the whole time all I could think is that they looked like treads! I would never have though of making a hook with that type of end on it though. Great job, as always John. I love watching the hotw!
Thanks man you have a great and safe day too
Never seen it. Never even HEARD of it! Fantastic. Always learn something here. I’m jealous that you live in a log home and in Beulah. Take care.
John in Colorado
It looks like a great hook for a chandelier especially one that holds candles.
nice job.. I had not thought about the twist on the screw part either as I sat and watch you do it.,.. Live and learn John.. thanks as always.. learned something new today.. carry on!
Thanks for the video John, you are an inspiration to us all.
Lots of food for thought on this one, John! Great info, Great video! Very nice hook!
Thats awesome. I always wondered how to make lag style threads like that. Thanks
For deeper threads try using a chisel to fuller the flats before twisting, awesome video, John
I wondered about that
Possibly file a V into the flats
Fun to experiment anyways
Based on this project, I’m not sure they need to be any deeper
Fun to experiment especially if more weight rating was needed though
A person could rig up a scale pull test
I figure the type of wood could be a factor as well
Great vid John. Love seeing the twist used for threads. I’ve been thinking about this for a while.
John, thank you for not being perfect and for being humble... it is something we can all use a dose of from time to time. Little known secrete - I'm note perfect either (please don't tell my wife I said that 😎).
Nice hook and I like the screw threads. I have never tried that before but may have to give it a try.
Good morning John. I have been enjoying the Sunday morning hooks.
I made me a twisting wrench exactly like yours. I found some old wrenches on a farm auction. One is the same size you used and another is the next size bigger. They made fantastic twisting wrenches.
I have looked for a wood screw dye. was unable to find one. I oftentimes wonder how they did it back in the day. Now I know, thanks John learn something every day
Just watched again the Francis Whitaker inspired coat rack proposed in the video. While educational content is superb in the older video too, and it's definitely a lot of fun to watch, the other things like picture quality, narration, video editing - i.e. overal look and feel of the video is so much more advanced now! Thanks, and Happy New Year!
Danke für die guten und bodenständigen Ideen! Weiter so. Kind regards Maciek
Thank you very much, your support is greatly appreciated.
Very interesting solution to your problem. Great hook, John.
I've wondered how to make a screw end, now I know ,thanks.
Great little project. I have been buying 1/4 ceiling hooks and reforging them to make a little curl and a hook to match the S hooks or Trammel hooks. This looks like a challenge to make multiples of. Be nice for one of a kind hooks, for sure. Another peaceful Sunday morning hook of the week in the bag. Thanks for sharing....
I once read in a 1922 shop tip book, that dies for wood screw threads were available by suppliers. Although this was in Germany, although ive never seen that type of die.
You read my mind! I was going to ask you to show us how to do lag screw threads. Ironic. Thanks!
Once again very nice video and a great inspiration. I have been wanting to try threads like that for a while, now I have a better idea of how to do it. I think it would be useful on a lot of different hooks ,instead of making drive hooks to pound into a wooden surface I think the threads will hold better and not pull out as easily.
Nice to see someone making threads like that. good vid. I would like to see you make a wood auger bit. I believe that I have 2 hear that were hand forged but am not sure on that.
WELL DONE ,REALY ENJOYED YOU MAKING THE HOOK. HAPPY NEW YEAR 2 YOU AND FMLEY. REGARDS RICHARD IN U.K. AS COLD AS YOU .
Really cool video! I’m going to work on my forge in just a few minutes. :)
I yelled at the screen, “The other way!”
When I’m doing batches-I’ll sometimes put chalk marks on the floor, arrows indicating rotation direction.
Good idea
Awsome job mr john
Reverse threads lol. Your the man John!
Yes! As a lefty I saw that, splendid! And still a very nice hook. Compliments of the season to you and all, John.
Good video John, learned something new early in the day. Very cool hook of the week. Thanks for sharing with us 👍👍.
Another great hook. Soon to hit 100 k. 👍
Pretty neet! Always wondered on that. Now I know. Thanks, Happy New Year and many more hooks!
I made a hook like that years ago when I first started smithing, watch the direction you twist! I made probably the only left hand threaded screw hook in the world.
Spoke too soon ! now there are 2 left hand screw hooks out there! Long live hook of the week!
Make that 3, I did the same thing. Beginner's luck!
Great tip on cool / hot stress point
Great hook. Have to admit I was interested to see how you went about doing the threads consistent rate of twist.
Your's came out very nice.
So as you were discussing the thread option, b4 I knew you were going to be shouldering your hook. My very 1st thought was oooh he's going to Fuller down the middle of the bar in 4 sides to give good thread purchase. Then I saw you go to 1/4" n thought nope to small for that.
See this is why I like this format. It caused me to think fast about what your steps in order of operations and what you plan for end result. Lol TBH I don't get it right very often but I'm improving my ratio.
IMHO that's what makes you a great teacher...you inspire us to learn and think on our own!
🙏 Blessed be John
Crawford out ⚒️🧙♂️
I noticed the lefty threads, too! Wanted to send a quick Email to tell you but then noticed the time elapsed and knew you'd figure it out. I think that was a great project, thank you for your time, Greg.
Hello John
Thanks for the teachfull video
It a pleasure to see how you create that hook
I need such hooks and i will Made them After your advice
I wish you and your family a healthy and good new year 2020
Stay save and wear your safty glasses 😉😁
I love your work go on
Good bless you
Yours Frank
Nice idea for a drift wood / iron coat rack
Looks great! I probably would have tried fullering the length of all four sides prior to twisting (making a fat X cross section) to get more bite on the threads. From how firmly yours held, I'm glad to see that would be unnecessary. You may have saved me a bit of work, thanks!
Thank you. I wondered how to make treads. Now i know. 👍
That was great! 👍 really enjoyed it! Thank you sir
When you was twisting that I was thinking that's going to be left hand thread lol. God-bless have a great night .
Thanks for this one John now I don't have cut the threads off the bolts and weld them on the hook. about the thread you did not screw it up John it works and that's all that matters.
As always, a delight to wake up to HOTW. Think I'll try your threading technique on the RR Spike drive hook you showed us earlier! Should be an interesting challenge. Thanks for your continued inspiration!
Nicely done, once again.
Wow very nice project great video
Very cool. Thanks for sharing.
Impressive! Great hook ! Cheers
Very nice to watch this thank you buddy for sharing it.
Hi John
Beautiful
If you have a board to do it. That looks like a good way to be able to hang a thing from the rafters in a shop. Say if one needed a bit of extra light or move a camera to a more comfortable spot. Possibly a fall arrest for hammer (for changing dies) a little to weak for my liking to chance my hand to blow during work on a thing.
Fun video, thanks!
Another good one man
Very nice
Awesome video John thanks for the inspiration.
Very nice !
My guru friend!! This one hook is amazing. It's got a lot of purpose in knowledge I believe. Thank you for sharing as always. Happy New Year!
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls
Too cool. Love it!
I was wondering how threads were made in the old times. Now...what about nuts for bolts? How they use to made then 200 years ago? Thanks for the video! P.s.: the best teacher is the one who shows his mistakes! Congratulatipns, John!
Taps and dies for nuts and bolts have been around in one form or another for a long time. Of course they didn’t always meet any standard.
That worked better then i thought
Nice hook! Happy New Year’s to you and your family! Best of luck and can’t wait to see what you come up with in the New Year!
NICE JOB HAVE A GOOD NEW YEAR
Mr John, Had a thought about needing a ceiling hook and remembered you had done one in the HOW series. Took some searching because you made a few that year. When watching, a couple things came to mind.
1. While watching there seemed to be something off. Took half the video to figure out your hammer blows all sounded like rawhide or wood rather than metal. Good graphic equalizer?
2. Realized I don't have an oxy/acet torch, nor the funds for one. Gonna have to figure that out. TS800 Benzmatic maybe?
3. When getting the tip of the screw ready, could extending the twist a bit farther and then grinding to a point work. You'd still have part of the "threads" almost to the end. I'd still predrill though.
Been curious to try this myself! Could be worth testing with triangle bar that you twist, then would be fewer threads.... though perhaps you want more but they would be sharper for sure. Would just have to use right swage I'd assume
I would think after the twist then file for improve but it might not be needed.
Different hard wood will vary.
Thanks something to learn furthermore
It doesn’t seem to need it
Fascinating stuff. Is this how they made thee old taps for threading nuts?
Getting close to the 100k subscribers
Yes we are. Probably in mid January
Great!
I like the uniqueness of a lefthand thread. In 10 years will you remember that thread? If mine I better mark it.
Nice!
I've always thought about maybe putting a round bar into a slightly-too-small rounding jig in order to squish out 2 thin, sharp "corners" or "wings" and then twist it. It seems (in my newbie brain) like that would make some really good double threads... 🤔
You're amazing!
I was screaming at the monitor, other way, other way. Would have never thought to twist the shank to make threads... good job. I was thing about taking a cold lag screw and hot plates and hammer the lag btween them over and over till it made a good enough impression . Then put your hot shank in there and try to hammer the threads into the shank.
Let us know if you try it and how it works out, please.
Hey bud cool project. When I need a square monkey tool I use a deep heavy wall impact socket works great. It can even go in the impact gun to do the hammering for you. Round only. Thx bud .....paul
I have seen those used before but ha en’t purchased any for the purpose
I like this
Hello John
I am looking Dinner for one in the TV
Thats a Ritual to see this Sketch at Silvester .
Try it and you laugh all the time
Yours Frank
I would be curious if you could swedge threads on. I have seen a leaf pattern on swedge blocks, that said I have respect for anyone with to patients and self discipline to maintain the accuracy needed for a passable fit.
Nice video, have you ever tried a elephant face with the hook being the trunk, I'm just thinking out loud. Keep up the great work. 👍
New apron for Christmas I see nice!
No, this is the one I got from forge aprons a year or so ago
A tapered diamond shape works better. Also twist counter clockwise if you want right hand threads.
From childhood experience trying to cut welding rods using a drill & wire snips...
Believe It's very likely to make a thread cutting tongs. Just have to be consistent with the turning.
There's 2cents... buy a 1/4 stick of gum. lol
Is the notion of making a tenon spring die just to modify to see if it'd cut the threads for wood screws...
Would this be worth your time.
I'd actually like to see if you could make it work.
Thanks.
Anybody else think that this will make a great video ?
or, do y'all disagree ?
I would like to see just how much a screw like this would hold before starting to tear out. It looks like it should easily support 10 - 15 pounds, and that would be more than sufficient to hang a medium sized plant from.
I have heard that hand-made (square) nails have a higher strength for pull-out compared to machine-made (round/wire) nails because they have edges, but I have never seen any evidence that anyone has actually tested to see if there is any significant difference. I personal guess is that square nails for a given size are slightly stronger, but that would have to do with the actual surface area of the nail in contact with the wood (4*d > pi * d), and if the square nail is tapered along it's entire length, it may even be weaker.
If I had to speculate on where this idea came from, it would be the old nail makers who were trying to compete with the cheaper-to-manufacture, machine-made, wire nails. As they started to lose business to the mass produced wire nail, they surely would have disparaged the wire nail's strength, holding capacity, rust resistance, and maybe even the marital status of the wire nail's parents; if they thought it would persuade people to buy their products.
Square nails are said to hold better because they distort the grain in the wood more angling the grain in. When trying to pull them out it must straighten that bit of grain which forces it to grab tighter.
I tried making one with 2 flutes like an auger bit. First attempt was so ugly I haven't tried again.