How Do ESTJs Compare To ISTJs?
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2018
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You work so hard on all these, I can definitely tell. I wanna say that you've really helped me understand the cognitive functions a hell of a lot better than trying to just teach myself how all this works. Watching a person with a white board does so much more for me than just looking at a diagram by itself, plus you put everything into relatable context. Thanks so much for taking the time to make and put out these videos, I'd honestly probably would still be lost in all this if it weren't for your channel! I look forward to seeing how all these progress as it seems like you're starting to get into the deeper content. :]
Itsfish3 awesome, thank you
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3:13 ESTJ (Direct, initiating, control)
3:15 ISTJ (Direct, responding, movement)
I applaud you for the way that you have organized these video lectures. From the perspective of someone with previous teaching experience, I can say that people in general have no idea the amount of work it takes to put a lecture together, let alone one that is compressed within thirty minutes. I had already signed up for the email list and look forward to seeing the content.
I think my ISTJ father was always paranoid about safety and making sure that absolutely nothing dangerous happened to his kids (getting panicked at even the sight of us near kitchen knives, being very strict on what we were allowed and not allowed to do such as not letting us drink cold drinks for fear of us coughing, stuff like that...) because of his Se nemesis. Am I right?
But estjs can drive their children to run without clothes in a cold weather, i do , it is called discipline our bodies are adaptable, every baby should have a physical or emotional tragedy, to adapt with hard life.
No… Ne inferior
Dude I absolutely love your stuff. I'm an INFJ who has been studying Jungian Analytical psychology for a couple years now, and I've got to say that your lectures provide me with a depth of knowledge that other websites haven't come close to touching. You're changing lives, my life included. Keep at it!
I did tests on two sites --- one told me I am ISTJ and one says ESTJ-A. I was quite confused. Now thanks for your explanation and I think I am ESTJ ... I did enjoy skydiving, rock/ice climbing, not worrying about so many what-ifs lol
And I believe my dad is an ISTJ ... He fit to your narrative so accurately...His preaching used to drive my brother crazy hahaha LMAO
Love your videos. Keep em rolling!
You are sooooo good! Do you have a camera at my house?? Laughing about the ISTJ tendency to keep the house clean and balanced at all costs, haha!!
After following these types for a couple of years, your level of depth and analysis has blown my mind. I'm a fan and hope I can absorb all your videos and informaiton, thank you!
keep it up bro, learn and teach
As an ISFJ with an ISTJ and ESTJ brother.. this lecture was on fire, I loved to see my brothers compared to each other😂 I also realized that when my ISTJ brother hit rock bottom, he changed his life with lightning speed and is now living a completely different life than he was a year ago.
Thanks for another lecture !
Hi Chase! Hello from Germany! My friends (INTJ, ENFP) and I (INFP - gulp...) really enjoy your channel and value your cut-through-the-bs when typing. We have tried out your online personality test responsesuite and your test, as it currently stands, likes to jump to conclusions (regardless if user is on mobile or computer). My ENFP friend resulted as ENTP/ESFP due to not being able to choose an appropriate answer (only one answer available after 2-3 made selections) and I am not able to skip questions and submit. We wanted to try the test just for fun, you might be already aware of the site's mistakes - I just wanted to let you know. Keep it up and thank you so much for your content!!
Update: After reading the - actually - upfront disclaimers and going "Ooooooooh!", our INTJ cracked the test after the 2nd try, I needed 3 after her valuable experience and the ENFP couldn't be bothered after 4 false results. Apologies for my former scrutiny - very conceptual test which actually teaches you something about yourself O.O
26:58 in that minute is completely true, I am an ISTJ and I have hit rock bottom before and I started again.
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I took a MBTI personality test and it came out as ESTJ 51% extroverted and 49% introverted. I took another and it came out as ISTJ 47% extroverted and 53% introverted. So I was confused between ESTJ /ISTJ. I till now thought the only difference between ESTJ and ISTJ was that one had a affiliation towards people and other had a aversion to people. So never gave too much thought into it. But now after watching your video , I know this is not the case at all. So thank you so much for making this video.
After watching your video even though I was able to relate to both ESTJ/ISTJ but your video made it clear that I was more inclined towards ESTJ. I don't care about the what ifs and usually find myself in leadership roles. I also think I am open minded and give the benefit of the doubt to other people. Though sometimes being an ESTJ women in this society becomes hard since a woman having her own personal ideas and opinions does not sit well with males. They want you to be an emphatetic human being and when you are not that and certainly not the picture of the ideal female that they had in mind , you are outcasted and they start treating you differently. But I don't care about all this stuff 😂. They don't wanna associate with me then okay fine. I have more important things to take care of.I am not gonna change my ideals or opinions according to if it suits someones taste or not. So yeah your video literally helped a lot and opened my eyes today. Thank you once again for making this wonderful video.
You are most welcome
Hi fellow estj female! I havent met one of us in real life before.. 100% agree woth your post. I scare most people.. Im a nurse and am well liked..Im a good charge nurse and now teach and was in supervisory roles. Im highly empathetic but I always do the right thing even if its hard. I don't base it on emotion but im objective. Worked well in the ICU working by myself even though im an extrovert. I love getting things done, delegating and tackling projects. I also love connwcting with people and am highly sensitive to emotions once I find high quality, open and trusting people similar to me. When that happens its electric..quality over quantity. Truth sets you free. Live by the rules that regulate and keep us in line. I will do the difficult stuff as long as you rise to the occasion and do your role, or communicate otherwise. Poor communication is hard to accept in my personal life. Its not that hard to understand right? :)
@@dana102083 Hello. Glad to know you and something about you life :) And yes I understood you perfectly and was able to relate to you so much. Everything you said was like synchronous with my feelings as well. You are right it is very rare to see ESTJ females out there in real life. We all are so rare. I scare people a lot too. But I am glad you are empathetic because I for sure am not at all empathetic. Sometimes I do feel scared as to why I don't feel emotions but I guess it is part of my nature. I also make objective decisions but sometimes my decisions come out to be wrong and I find it very hard to accept it and apologize at the end. Is that a problem that you also face ? It is a thing which I am working on right now. I work as a software developer and I also like to get things done and am great at handling projects and meeting deadlines. Also delegating tasks to people and connecting with people comes naturally to me. So I work great in a team environment. But I don't trust people easily. I do give them the benefit of the doubt but if they break it then that's done. I close myself off further from those people. Loyalty and Honesty is like everything to me. And you are right truth does set everything free. Truth makes you form real and genuine connections. Truth even if sometimes bitter makes you realise things and sets you on a path which benefits you in the longer run. Rules and regulations are there to abide by and these rules give you a sense of stability that I crave so much. Poor communication is seriously the worst. Hiding things, making assumptions , and not communicating properly leads to so many misunderstandings and delays in tasks plus it also leads to a barrier in relationships. I like what you wrote and am glad to have found you. We resonate so much with each other. You are the only other ESTJ female I know. Thank you for your comment.
@@got7bias613 hey! Im sorry I missed your comment..rereading comments led me back :) to answer your question, I find as I get older I analyze myself more and more and not automatically think someones an idiot (why are there so many idiots?! Lol). My bf is an ISTJ and he says I have a resting bitch tone lol..hunny I'm being nice, dont tempt me..but its amazing to meet someone who's on the same page and gets how I need to communicate..even though he feels inadequate sharing emotion. Hes just hard on himself and I can influence him into being more flexible..Im a creature of habit.. Anyone that knows Im hatable cuz im estj lol its so neat to meet someone with same views..I head bobbed the entire time reading. I also have a disabling condition which has effected my empathy to those suffering. I do feel my judginess amount has toned down with time but my filter with the judgements I state are more loose and spicy lol. I feel like its venting about bad traffic..you feel better letting it out. If you only know me short term you'll see the worst in me but im very open, close and intimate with those I know. I have a manager that doesnt do any work and she has made me a bit toxic and hard to control it. Its hard to know if my bf is teasing me as we are both masters of sarcasm or if he's making an attempt at calling me out on my excessive estj-isms lol do you work with many males in software work? Im in a female dominate enviro and always appreciate working with men. Hope youre well out there! 🙏💕🤞
ESTJ-Hair Trigger Temper Police Chief
ISTJ-By-the-Book Cop
Thank you so much for your videos, learned a lot. ISTP here
you are most welcome :)
Do INTP vs INFP!
It is on the schedule.
Glad to see you quickly fixed the typo. I hate being "that guy" (grammar nazi who points out errors with stunning social ineptitude).
It happens.
I forgot to mention, if you are in the Bay Area, I will be hosting a meet up group in the Bay Area if you wanted to join us.
C.S. Joseph Cool! What's the objective or theme/topic of discussion?
Awesome lecture. I'm signing up for more.
You are most welcome.
I don't know if you have put up a video for the archetypes specifically and how they work together (Hero, Child, Nemesis, Demon, etc.). I suspected it might have been in the introductory videos, but then again I might have missed it because I have slowly been getting through all of your content. While I am well versed in the main four slots, the way the nemesis and trickster functions work is still unclear. I've been picking up bits and pieces on how the archetypes work throughout your videos, but it would be nice to have them all in once place. If it's under an elusive video title, please let me know. Otherwise, I look forward to seeing it if you plan on producing it.
Tyarra Ybarrola try the four sides of the mind vid, or the cognitive spectra.
Great video. Very well worded and explained.
Signed up! Sry it took me so long to follow through on that... Was super simple tho. (which says a lot coming from me lol)
Basically ISTJs get lost in the details and become too closed minded. Us ESTJs are way more open minded, dont care as much for details and, enjoy small talk and love adventure. I also can tell when people are genuine and not fake as a mother effer.
@@elby6980 depends on the situation, again everything is fluid. I enjoy it most of the times though.
@@elby6980 I suck at small talk.
@IN NA lol yea totally. They're the stereotypical lawyer/accountant/manager not an entrepreneur .
Do birth orders and attachment styles affect personality types?
i know you havent done a video like this yet i like your content and i think itd be pretty cool if you did like a personality breakdown of kanye west ( to the best of your ability of course ) since his actions have been so controversial . you should give it some thought 👍🏼
Jose A yeah I have Kanye and Trump in the video queue already. Thanks for the suggestion
Question! I understand that Si hero prioritize comfort, but in the video comparing ISFJ x ESFJ, ISFJ is willing to take more risks than ESFJ because wants to try new experiences. So why is that different to ISTJ? Thanks!!
Its not really different, although ISTJ has Fi child which causes them to value safety even more so than ISFJs.
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No worries, there's only 16*15/2*1 possible comparisons (that's 120; also as to how to get to that: the number of videos is equal to all possible pairs out of 16 elements, Newton's symbol if I am not mistaken ).
*Nope it's binomial coefficient, just my countries terminology is a bit meh.
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"Ti - Fe is all about what I believe..."
I'll leave this without a comment(my previous sentence is a flase statement from the fact that I wrote it but nvm)
As far as I have seen, ESTJs are more practical (which makes them appear cold) and less emotional than ISTJs. I don't understand why the MBTI community hates ESTJs more than ISTJs.
I agree… sometime, they seem more introverted.
Ti critic
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Estj
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22:30 "ESTJ:s are more open-minded with their Ne child: they might be right about it" no Ne is not about right/wrong. It's probably Te hero you should have pointed at.
Do you see people switch mid-life between these two? It seems to be happening to me at the moment.
i dont know what you are asking
@@CSJoseph thanks for the reply. I have been a solid ISTJ for years, but now my I seems to be changing into an E. The ESTJ descriptions are 100% me.
No that's not true, learn about the 4 sides
C.S. Joseph , I have a question do you check the podcast comments too?
Also just noticed how many comments I write based on the notifications from yt xd.
I kinda can estimate how long it would take to check all comments if you have like 7 commentors like me. Sorry, but not rly :P
I do not, I should though
@@CSJoseph cause I started sending you some messages there
What happens if you are both? I'm an amibevert and both relates to me.
watch my Ambiversion is a lie episode in season 15 playlist
Do you think a relationship between an ESTJ male and an ISTJ female work?
Your vids have helped me so much, thank you!
No
@@CSJoseph Well, TWFP typed my husband ISTJ and me ESTJ. I specifically request him to do a video on it and he ignores it. No wonder he won't do the video. He's probably afraid to!
My dad is ESTJ and my mum is ISTJ 🤣
What are the most common careers for ESTJS? Is law or law enforcement included?
Yes, it’s a PARAmilitary organization.
Oh and ESTjs aren't afraid of getting rejected and asking girls out 😂
Not true at all, Se critic and Ti nemesis can be huge buffers in asking someone out. ESTJ’s can literally be one of the shyest/ unconfident of all the types if they are under the grip of their ISTP shadow.
@@elby6980 that's very rare, If I see a girl I like I ask her out. Maybe as a child I would display that behavior but as an adult absolutely not.
@@TheFitBizCPA Im a fearless estj female. I used to be highly empathetic as a child..very sensitive. I strongly believe my upbringing with a tough mom and sister with narcissistic personality disorder i learned to not react to the explosive emotions exhibited in my environment. Im a nurse so i practice selfregulation. I find this fascinating. Cheers
Elby… estjs have Ne child.
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Peace C. I take it back. Even though you look & conduct yourself like Damon Grey, I'm wondering if you might be an ESTJ. But, I'm not 100% on my own type. So, what do I "know." 😉
(PS.. Careful! Liking the comment because of the last sentence.. & not because you get the "joke" either.. only proves me right 😂😎)
The DJ Peace. Yeah. But, my Brother is the dictionary ENTJ. And, he can be "snarky" too. That said.. Unless Chad is secretly depressed & in the grip of his Si (as an ENTP)... There is absolutely *zero* lead Ne present. And, when there is Ne.. It is *very* contrived. Or.. I don't know.. Something's just... "Off." Then, it came to me: "Ne child?" Which, is what (I hypothesize) we saw demoed in this vid a few times. Another thing... The website. It's nice & concise. Definitely user friendly. ENTP work? No. Just. No. There are other thing's too. Quotes like: "If they would just listen to me.." Or.. "Um. NOOO." I'd say ENTJ because of mannerisms & what looks to me to be a helping/caring (albeit inferior) Fi. I definitely see Te/Si.. Lot's of factual data with going down memory lane examples... Perhaps some would say the walking would be Se? Either way.. I'm Respectfully saying, based on all his videos, and, unless he's in a rut (which, in that case.. I hope the ENFJ helps to bring some spark into his life), Professor Chad may likely have been mistyped *&* has a blind spot holding him back from reaching his True potential to help others realize our own. Which, also leads me to believe he's an ExTJ.. And, after watching this vid.. More likely E *S* TJ.. Who, knows how to balance his polar functions well (naturally..given his impressive breadth of the functions & dynamics thereof). And, who is going to be in for some serious fun with that ENFJ super ego significant other pushing him to be better than his Highest & Truest Self (the cheaters way to get close to God 😂😎).
We'll see.
The Great Creator Knows Best.
(PS: Apologies for the lack of brevity.. And, looking forward to your thoughts.. Esp. After seeing those vids I posted).
The DJ Lead Ne at its finest...
(With some bonus lead Te comparison commentary):
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The DJ And...
2 examples of lead Ne for the price of one... Male ENFP.. Female ENTP (with self proclaimed low self esteem):
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The DJ "Damon is an ENTJ." iConcur. And, Damon is CS's doppelganger... Soooo.. 😎
I hired an ISFP to do the website. As for the type discussion, please watch the playlist I how to type yourself and others.
Why Istjs dominate data science and A.I?
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