Top 5 Faker Mistakes With Spray Foam Insulation
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
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Great vid Mike . Hope your supply issues have worked out . I've had a handful of hiccups .
Circuit board glitched on second spray on my building .them winter blasted us air filter frozen after 25' of joist ends lol. You are not kidding this business isn't easy
Ouch. We all have those things from time to time. Winter is 90 days of "hang-on" until we get back into less severe weather for applying foam.
Supply and product pricing is a real issue right now. This will break some guys out of the business for sure.
Coastalsprayfoam here in Michigan, I must say one of my main issues with getting jobs is low bidders cutting corners and homeowners and builders asking for flash and batt which you mentioned in a previous video.
Yes.
Yup fly by nighters who think they'll get in get out and make a ton. Until 1 thing breaks
thank for the info for a buyer. great vid
Glad it was helpful!
Another Great video and real eye opening on where someone will cut corners.
What about spraying over coatings like Drylock or adhered paint to block walls? Ok if the coating has good adhesion?
If the coat is adhering well, then proceed.
One of your best videos yet. Thanks so much for the information.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the information.
Our pleasure!
hahaha ... I love this creative approach with the sound introducing the scary parts of fakers. Keep up the greatness and have fun being creative and educational. Don't forget us small people here in the beginning as your channel goes to the moon. hope you are going to have a perfect weekend ... hello from Friday June 10, 2022. 18.5k subs
I’d like more info about that spray caulk system
Not sure if this is a dumb question or not, but I'm building a house with a conditioned "crawl space" that will also be a service basement at a height of ~4'. I'm considering using stripfootings with FOAM around them and then run the sprayfoam into those foam forms. Ideally I'd like to not put in a slab as it sounds like spray foam over compacted gravel would suffice, but I also know that there will be trades on site installing plumbing elelctric HVAC. I'm wondering if you could lay down the spary foam and then wet set plywood T&G into that for a more level walkable surface?? Thoughts?
Go watch my video on "in contact with ground". All your questions are answered there.
Would you recommend the Graco E 8P ?
You said galvanize stuff needs be primed. How do you do it?
Howdy - Thank you for all the video's - because of this channel i was able to choose between companies in Alberta with knowledge. I am glad to have a good experience with my basement reno spray - such a difference in temperature control. I went with 3" at rim joists and walls - thank you for the informative videos.
Question - I have a massive pile of R12 batt left over after removal from the walls. - do you see any issue packing the batt into the rim joists and ceiling areas in contact with the foam for sound attenuation? SPF is my VB so cant think of an issue but would love your opinion.
Thanks for the feedback.
Chuck the fibrous out.
@@SprayJones I'd say donate it to some one in need my self
Can you spray foam over a tyvex type sheet to keep the foam from sticking to the tin on a pole barn. In case you have to remove the tin.
Ron from North Java NY.
I have a whole video dedicated to that. You will find it in the metal building playlist.
What brand is your closed cell?
I just had a bid for a wooden 10 x 20 shed to spray foam in Loris South Carolina from Carolina energy. The bid is five grand that doesn’t not include underneath the floor not once did he talk about caulking or masking or taping or shaving
Hmmm.
just purchased a Purcraft hose, its in the mail. I realized I wasn't cut out for foam application as a insulation contractor, I just stick to my containers and portable structures , to many crawl spaces in my neck of the woods,
The best thing is to know when something is not right for you and your customers and change.
Is there a chance of you getting a video of new Home construction and typical places that are poorly insulated? In the beginning of your video people where discussing caulking or lack of on the joints of the 2x4’s. I know in my 12 yr home I had to fight with the general on this very issue, a poor job or cheap job does no one any good once it’s buried behind a wall! P.S. that new home warranty in Canada is a joke!
The video that I did on "does SPF need a vapor barrier" I go over the caulking subject in greater length.
Every area can be done wrong.
In wall videos I discuss doing it right, roofs 4 part series I cover details there, basements etc. So what you want exists in great detail just go through the library of materials.
You might look into areobarrier it makes your house air tight by putting calling into the air with the house under pressure. Before drywall of course.
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I've been told multiple times in residential not to seal. Insulate yes but sealing it up is actually bad? Every home needs ventilation. I'm in the Northwest what's you opinion? I hear ya say caulk and seal a lot. I have also been told foam in the walls is great but not the roof. People have had problems with no airflow in the home and causes issues with the fireplaces and wood stoves. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much!
Watch my 4 part series on roofs, watch my series on walls. Air is a major issue and you have to stop it.
What's the deal with the liquid caulk, looks like you're spraying with an airless sprayer..... Looked online to find this product. can't find any source for this. definitely need to move to this instead of out of tubes...... thanks
Eco Seal. We use bulk load tubes now.
One question I have not found the answer to is as follows. Is it ok to spray foam closed cell foam directly to galvalum for the roof on a shop? Thanks
After you prime it yes. Have done it many times.
Watch video "what conditions do we need & what can we spray foam to". 2 videos.
@@SprayJones thx brotha
How about a video on spray foam and termites/ants infestation for us folks down south?
I have a lot of info on that subject. I think it is time to do the best informed presentation that I can. Stay tuned...
What primer is applied to the Delta MS at 7:40?
There is a faint, grey primer on it that is a water-based etching primer. Goes on at 1 mil thick.
New stuff we have is white now so it shows up easier.
Shrinkage issues per ASTM D2126 still seem to be the most prevalent issue to me, “fakers” or not. Jobs that are at least three years old will commonly have some shrinkage above 2% in about 10% of their bays in my experience, and this has been demonstrated in lab testing as well. This is one good argument for flash-and-batt redundancy, especially with compression-fit mineral wool rather than fiberglass.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Flash and batt....
If your advice was followed and if there was a gap between the foam and wood the whole wall would be moisture ridden in less than 24 months.
@@SprayJones If that was true, just using batts would do the same. They are not vapor retarding, so it would be entirely the fault of the foam failure. (An advantage of having the batt in front of the failure is that it may keep the interior side of the sheathing cold enough to avoid condensation, in addition to maintaining a significant insulating value for that bay.)
I love how my electrical panel always seems to get a nice dusting of spray foam when it's being done In the basement.
Love it when the panel is open (not hot) and then they paint the buss
Not by us!
I never leave a panel open live or not for any period of time. Most come with cardboard cutouts to protect the panel interior during construction.
A comprehensive prep job will eliminate that problem
glad you said it only takes an inch! we all know after a certain depth your throwing money away. seems "up to code" laws are making people spend unnecessary money
Can you spray open cell directly to 26 gauge still building without Ty-Vek vapor barrier?
Yes it can be done.... should it?
Not sure what you mean?
@@michaeldrevyankosr6180 Open cell cannot get wet. What happens when water gets behind the metal?
It is hard to be under cut. A lot of my builders don't even check the depth, which is infuriating because they think i'm over priced. One of my competitors recently undercut me 20 percent then went on to spray .5lb foam when he sold the builder 2lb. The owner was upset, but had no way to find the guy. Builders need to do better due diligence on quality of work and finding reputable companies.
Dump the idiots that only use you. They will never learn anyhow.
Spray foam over foam board anyone?
Ie; my barndominium is incapsulated in rigid foam board (no other wood sheathing is used) i would like to sub out spray foaming to complete my insulation and seal any cracks that may have been missed.
It all depends on how well the rigid is fastened. If it is loose then it needs to be pinned down. Be cautious when something is running interference with the substrate. The foam will stick to it, but how well is it staying in place?
It’s seems like a gamble if the company you hire does a good job or a terrible job. Is it worth the risk?
What isn't a risk in life? Get educated, do your homework, man up and watch the people you decide to do business with.
Hi Mr. Jones. I was looking to get spray foam in my attic rafters and I was starting to get cold feet after finding so many horror stories online! Your videos have been been incredibly informative and making me a lot more comfortable with proceeding. It's a shame you're all the way in Saskatchewan, I would have hired your company right away! I was wondering if you knew any companies in Southern Ontario you can recommend me to go with? Thank you
Thanks for the great feedback. I do not know anyone in your area. You will have to vet them.... I have a video on how to select a contractor.
We use hfo foam, closed cell cant be sprayed to quick, stuff runs very hot. You got to respect the science
I’m a foam technician, that’s my everyday job, I install- spray foam insulation, and for me the first mistake is the client, they always try to get the cheapest installers, and the cheap is always the highest price at the end, that’s my experience as a foam insulation installer. If you don’t hire the right company who’s charging the right price for a 30 year warranty job, then you’ll have different kind of problems.
Absolutely. If the want-to is for the low end, trouble will always be present.
Unfortunately price and quality are unrelated.
Have you ever been asked to spray foam the ground as an insulated base for concrete?
Of course.
Man I find it so hard to find good contractors. I have tried to vet companies that have good ratings and seem competent but I find that all they want to do is get in and out, upcharge and bad mouth each other. I just hired a company I thought was a solid teir 2 but started checking the boxes for a low end fly by night joke right off the bat when they arrived or didn't arrive. Blew me off the scheduled day and never called me. Found out he was out of town (on vacation) but wanted to make it up to me. Morning that they showed he started telling me there was more here than originally claimed by me. Was unprofessional (cussing) in his emails and texts to me. I was really getting livid but his guys were already in my attic. So I let them finish but won't use them for the rest of my projects but now i have to reinvest time to get another contractor. Very frustrated!
That is tier 3 all the way. Written quote? Came to see the job? How is it more if he did those two first?
@@SprayJones its funny too because they had lots of great reviews in the area. Not a single bad review. the owner didn't come to the house. I told him about my job and that i had about 700sf (rounded up from the 670/680sf that others had estimated) to insulate and he gave me a price with a written quote in an email. He said that he didn't need to see it, that he lives and sleeps this stuff and he could knock it out quickly. When his guys arrived for install they went right to work and began removing my old insulation and his lead guy came down to tell me that there was a measurement error that it was 100sf more than i told them. I thought that was crap but i couldn't go back up and measure as they had everything moving fast said what do i want to do. I reluctantly had them go ahead and finish it but that was when the owner was sending me txts that were really unprofessional and sounded like what i would expect from a teenager when someone called them out for lying. He also said that it would be 2" average thickness and i called them on several areas that are less than 1.5" and he said other areas are more than 2". I guess that's how he gets away with his 2" average thickness as opposed to 2" minimum that i could legally hold him to. I won't let anyone give me a "over the phone" quote again and This guy is going to get an honest review from me online. I guess i'll be the first bad review he gets.
@@janjohannes9644 Ouch. We NEVER take a job that someone from SJ has not gone to see before final pricing is submitted.
The rest.... real character has a way of being exposed quickly. When ppl show you who they are... believe them.
Why not over galvanized without primer?
Zinc is meant to flake off for rust sacrifice. You need to seal and etch into it so that adhesion isn't compromised long term.
Hi
Propane fireplace? You suggested against that......
To heat the place temporarily? Probably yes.
Think about getting foam on that thing....
Who needs a great sprayer in okc?
I can’t no say anything. It’s killing me.. holy over spraying the studs.. the helper must love that sprayer.
The have tape on them, pulls right off.
HONEST PERSON HERE
Thanks
PURPLE FOAM IS CORBOND
Think again. Canada made BASF Walltite. Been purple since 2010.
There's a lot of butchers out there.
Shinning a light on them.
man your anal about this and so am i. when your guy was caulking that baseplate those corners in that stud wall didnt look that great! lol 😆 you guys do very good work though, im not perfect either!
Can you recommend an engineering energy modeling service to all me to reduce code required ceiling foam r48 (7 inches of 2 lb foam) down to a more reasonable 3-4 inches? I can't get a reply on EnergyModelingAgency.com. Thank You.
For starters you need to see what the vaulted ceiling rating is. It should not be that high. Apply your SPF to the roof deck.
Talk with Energy Wise Structures in Arlington Texas.